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kbaker21
Dec 22, 2014, 09:34 PM
For a few weeks my toilet has been continuously running. Easy solution, get a new flapper and problem solved right? WRONG. I told my husband a million times and nothing so, it got to the point where we would just shut it off and on from the valve. Well from doing that so much, we have now stripped that valve so, it just turns and turns and the water just stays on. NOW we have to go outside to the main water line and turn it off and on that way! If someone can tell me how, I will just fix it myself ! My water bill is probably $1000 by now!

Angle valve sorry

hkstroud
Dec 22, 2014, 10:06 PM
First the problem of the handle just turning and turning is probably cause by the splines of the stem have been stripped away and the handle is not turning the stem. Remove the screw and the handle and use a pair of pliers to turn the valve off.

Most likely the valve under the toilet is a compression fit type valve. If so, they are very easy to replace. Purchase an new valve. You will find valves just like the one you have. One that takes several turns of the handle to turn on and off. Then there is what is called a quarter turn valve. You only have to turn the handle from up over to one side. What you want is a compression fit, quarter turn angle stop valve

To replace you will need a pair pf pliers and an adjustable wrench.

Turn off the water to the house.

Using the adjustable wrench loosen the nut around the small pipe going up to the toilet tank. Carefully pull the small pipe out of valve. Using the adjustable wrench loosen the large nut around the pipe coming out of the wall. If necessary, hold the valve with the pliers.
Pull the valve off the pipe coming out of the wall.
Remove the nuts on the new valve. You will not be using them.
Put the new valve on the pipe and push it up against the copper ring.
Start the nut onto the new valve and tighten it with the adjustable wrench. Hole the valve with the pliers if necessary.
Put the small pipe from the toilet into the new valve. Start and tighten the nut. If the small pipe to the toilet tank is a small chrome pipe, purchase a new flexible braided one. They are called braided toilet supply tubes. You will find them next to the valves in the plumbing department. They are much easier to work with.

A toilet that runs continuously is not cause by a faulty flapper. It is caused by a faulty or improperly adjusted fill valve.

Post back if you need assistance.

Best thing might be to turn off the water to the house. Remove the valve and the supply tube and take them to Home Depot or Lowe's. Ask for assistance in the plumbing department. Tell the associate you want to replace them with a quarter turn valve and a braided supply tube.

afaroo
Dec 22, 2014, 10:55 PM
Hello kbaker,

hkstroud explained very well I am attaching the images for your info how does the angle valve looks inside and how to change it is very easy to replace it just follow his instructions, good luck.

John

jlisenbe
Dec 23, 2014, 06:40 AM
The video below might be helpful. HK and AF, the guy in this video suggests wrapping the old ferrule with a couple turns of teflon tape before installing the new angle stop, thus allowing a person to just reuse the old ferrule and nut. Is that how it's done?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7mXlcf412Q

talaniman
Dec 23, 2014, 07:10 AM
After you have fixed your supply shut off valve, here is the whole job of finding and fixing toilet leaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR34TVD_ihI

Its not hard, or expensive.

hkstroud
Dec 23, 2014, 07:16 AM
Hi John,
Not a bad video for kbaker to watch but I have never heard of using Teflon tape on compression ring. Usually you don't have a problem with the using an old ferrule or compression ring and nut around the pipe. Can't hurt but probably doesn't help. The ring is copper, the valve is brass. The brass will usually reshape the softer copper.
Teflon tape and pipe dope are lubricants not sealers. They simply enable you to easily tighten things tighter.
Used like this the tape might actually act as a sealer.
If things really look bad, I will sometimes remove the compression ring using a handle/ferule puller. The handle/ferule puller is just a handle puller with a little insert you put in the end of the copper pipe so the puller has something to push against. Nice little tool.

The problem kbaker is most likely to have is a leak around the supply tube if it is the old, hard, chrome type. The reason for that is usually you have to bend it a little to get it out and back in. When you put it back in it has to come straight out of the connection. Can't be off to one side a little bit. Love the flexible supply tubes which use O-rings to seal.

Harold.

jlisenbe
Dec 23, 2014, 08:02 AM
Yeah. Those flex tubes are wonderful and so much easier to use.

I have a handle puller. Never thought of using it to pull a ferrule. I can see it would have to have that insert to go into the pipe to have something to push against.

hkstroud
Dec 23, 2014, 10:08 AM
Take a copper cap, drill a small hole in the center. Put the cap on the puller, pointed toward the threads. Use that to pull the nut and ferrule.

afaroo
Dec 23, 2014, 11:06 AM
Hello hkstroud,

It is not my video I agree with you and I have also never heard of using Teflon tape on compression ring and have not used it, the best way is to replace the ferule as you suggested, Thanks.

John