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Thinkaboutit
Nov 5, 2014, 12:40 PM
I don't know what to do I did some pretty stupid things lately and had to tell me dad. Now he's going to take me to the police station to be charged unless I tell the police everything I know . I don't want to be charged and I think it's really unfair of me dad to put me in this situation. But I don't want to dobb on me friends either. They're me friends they would never talk to me again. Not to sure what to do?

Wondergirl
Nov 5, 2014, 12:52 PM
Your friends who are selling drugs are putting kids' lives at risk. They are hooking them on illegal substances and messing them up for any kind of worthwhile life. And what if someone dies?

Thinkaboutit
Nov 5, 2014, 01:32 PM
Of corse I don't want anyone to die! These kids are me friends I don't want them to hate me and not talk to me again its me own fault I told me dad I don't see they should get punished for it. I'm not sure I know it's wrong taking pills and now I'm in a hard situation to get clean but I don't know what to do

Oliver2011
Nov 5, 2014, 01:51 PM
No sympathy - You put yourself in this hard situation. The sooner you realize that the sooner you might wake up and not do that. Life is about learning lessons. Hopefully you learn a lesson here. I would do the same thing your father is doing to make sure you learned that lesson. I always told my two boys stupid people die young. You hang out with the wrong crowd, do the wrong things, get involved with people that are bad, get involved with drugs, expect to die young. That lesson is a tough one, for your family, should that happen. So yes, your dad is doing the right thing.

One more thing to add. God gave you a brain for a reason. Use it. Don't put yourself in a situation where you have to make a decision to be a rat or not be a rat. Just a little thinking before you do something stupid can save you a world of trouble. But again, you have to learn that first.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 5, 2014, 02:20 PM
I don't want sympathy from anybody, just thought I'd ask whether I should tell on my friends or not. Believe me I have learnt me lesson. I don't think me friends are bad people they are nice to be help me lots. I think it's me responsibility to just take the punishment for having the pills me dad found and get charged. Like you said I didn't use me brains should go got rid of the stuff before me dad came home what did I expect I did just tell him I was taking drugs guess I just didn't want to get rid of them yet, I'm definitely ditching me other stash before he find that to

Oliver2011
Nov 5, 2014, 02:38 PM
Oy vey. How old are you?

"I didn't use me brains should go got rid of the stuff before me dad came home" Noooooo. You don't get it. Using your brain is don't get messed up with drugs to begin with. Using your brain is liking your friends enough that you don't get messed up with drugs in the first place. Using your brain is loving your dad enough and respecting him by not getting mixed up with drugs in the first place.

Life is about choices as well. Bad choices bring bad consequences. Good choices bring about good consequences. And only you controls which one you pick.


I don't want sympathy from anybody, just thought I'd ask whether I should tell on my friends or not. Believe me I have learnt me lesson. I don't think me friends are bad people they are nice to be help me lots. I think it's me responsibility to just take the punishment for having the pills me dad found and get charged. Like you said I didn't use me brains should go got rid of the stuff before me dad came home what did I expect I did just tell him I was taking drugs guess I just didn't want to get rid of them yet, I'm definitely ditching me other stash before he find that to

Wondergirl
Nov 5, 2014, 02:48 PM
But you aren't the only one they are selling these pills to. Yes, you have to be a rat to stop this, so those other pill-taking kids don't get hurt or die.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 5, 2014, 02:55 PM
I know what you is saying I should have made the right choices to begin with. Well I'm trying to do that now I know I messed up big time, I made the choice to tell me dad so I could get help, I'm scared of what's going to happen next and I don't want to get anyone else involved by lagging on them but I haven't been making so many good choices latley so don't know what to do. Do I tell so they won't sell anymore stuff to other people but then they will have a criminal record or do I just face the police and get charged myself I hate my dad why couldn't he just help me not make things more worse

Wondergirl
Nov 5, 2014, 03:23 PM
I don't know what would happen to drug dealers (yes, that's what they are) in Australia. How old are they? I'm guessing they are handing out grandma's pills for fun and maybe for profit and spending money without considering consequences. If this is a first offense, they might have to pay a fine and take special drug awareness classes. Their parents/relatives would be told to lock up their prescription medicine.

J_9
Nov 5, 2014, 03:24 PM
So, if you don't rat on them and some kid dies, you know you will also be responsible for that death. Right?

Fr_Chuck
Nov 5, 2014, 06:20 PM
Of course you tell on them, those type of people are not really your friends, sorry but, if they are, you need to get rid of that type of friends anyway.

smoothy
Nov 5, 2014, 07:03 PM
Stupid people do time for other people. Don't be one of those stupid people. They would rat you out in an instant if they got a break by doing it.

Also hate to break the news to you sport. But with frioends like those....who needs enemies.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 5, 2014, 07:21 PM
I wouldn't call them drug dealers, they are 18and 19 so it would stay on their adult record there not bad guys always been nice to me. I think that's a bit harsh how would it be my fault If another kid dies? I don't know why does it have to be up to me, I don't care if I get charged I did the wrong thing.

smoothy
Nov 5, 2014, 07:24 PM
You are legally complicit. In fact it could be argued you were aiding and abetting them. You do know the guy setting in the car waiting for everyone gets the death penalty too if someone inside the bank or store kills someone during the robbery. THey didn't have to pull the trigger, they didn't even have to be inside with them.

Even the person that helped them plan the crime can and will be charged even if they weren't there. Because they had knowledge of a crime and did nothing.

Besides they will pile ALL the charges on your they can since you were foolishly so willing to accept full and complete blame for everything. You will likely even get more serious charges adn longer prison time for it.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 5, 2014, 08:21 PM
Are you for real I just brought the well I didn't even buy it half the time they just gave me the stuff so I know I'll get charged with possession but its not like they can charge me with dealing or supplying what ever they call it. Dam how would that even be fair. I could just tell them I didn't get them off anyone. Seriously they are me friends I don't think they would do it to me, and it wouldn't be me fault if another kid dies if they didn't get it from me friends there are heaps of other places to go so how would it be my fault.

Cat1864
Nov 5, 2014, 08:43 PM
By your other thread I know you are 15. You are at an age where you can easily learn to trust the wrong people. Your dealers/friends are the wrong people. Did you do drugs before you met them?

When you stop being a source of income and after you visit the police (even if you don't tell) they will probably drop your 'friendship' like a hot potato. They are nice to you because they get something in return.

Have you introduced other people to them? Have those people bought from them?

You need to open your eyes up and take a long hard look at the people you call friends. Be honest with yourself.

J_9
Nov 5, 2014, 09:05 PM
You wouldn't call them drug dealers because you are 15. Those of us that are adults know for a fact they are drug dealers. Why? Because they are not licensed physicians who write prescriptions.

How could you be held responsible if someone dies? Because you were given the opportunity to get these drug dealers from giving out more drugs to more unsuspecting children. However, you chose to turn blind eye fully knowing this is illegal and potentially fatal. Look, kid, these people aren't your friends. They will have no problem calling your name when the next kid gets caught with drugs. They don't care about you at all.

As a matter of fact, the probably go home, steal their grandparents meds, and laugh about how gullible you are.So, you want to take the fall for them, but you don't care about the 12 year old they try to get addicted.

smoothy
Nov 5, 2014, 09:15 PM
Are you for real I just brought the well I didn't even buy it half the time they just gave me the stuff so I know I'll get charged with possession but its not like they can charge me with dealing or supplying what ever they call it. Dam how would that even be fair. I could just tell them I didn't get them off anyone. Seriously they are me friends I don't think they would do it to me, and it wouldn't be me fault if another kid dies if they didn't get it from me friends there are heaps of other places to go so how would it be my fault.

Yes I am real and yes they would do it to you in a heartbeat. And yes it WOULD be your fault. YOu were helping them by covering for them. That makes you legally liable. One person talks and they trace things back... then another talks to get a better deal too and next thing YOU are sitting in jail.

You really are naive about all of this, and people in general if you actually believe any of what you said.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 5, 2014, 09:17 PM
I hear what you are all saying there not my friends and if I don't tell it's my fault if some other kid gets addicted or dies pressure much. It's so not fair as if I don't have enough to deal with already. Ill just be responsible for messing up their lives. Anyway I go I'm mess things up.

J_9
Nov 5, 2014, 09:32 PM
You either don't get it or you don't care. If it were me, and I'm old enough to be your mother, I would be doing whatever to takes to save my arse. But, go ahead, protect these idiots who really don't give a rats arse about you.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 5, 2014, 10:01 PM
I do care, It's just not an easy decision I feel like if I tell the cops who they are just to save me then what kind of a person does that make me! But I understand what it feels like to be in this horrible position of being addicted to drugs and I'd hate for someone else to feel the same way. It's hard to think that they don't care about me they have been the only people who have been there for me but I suppose its like you all been saying I get drugs of them so I suppose they just act like me friends. So I put them in to save me self from getting charged and stop them from being able to sell anymore... Just don't feel right think I should still be punished to then

smoothy
Nov 6, 2014, 06:01 AM
If you cared (like you claim) you would not be protecting the people committing the bigger crime. It really IS that simple.

But then...you would rather end up with a felony charge....which COULD be made as an adult. You will have a very hard time ever finding a good job, and be barred from ever having any of a long list of jobs in a number of career fields.....but these drug dealers you think are friends are more important to you than your own life, and your own future.

If you protect even one of them...you deserve to be charged as an adult....and do an adult sentence and everything that goes with it.

Lots of dumb kids get charged as adults for a number of crimes every day. Being under 18 isn't a get out of jail pass....or a ticket to a slap on the wrist.

You might think this is all a joke and you might get grounded for a few days and then its all forgotten. Well it won't. This is the real world...this stuff WILL follow you the rest of your natural life. And its going to cause you problems down the road you can't even begin to grasp yet.

There are things far, far worse than being a rat.

Being stupid is only one of them. Taking the entire blame for someone else is another of many. They will forever label you as a sucker, and they won't be alone doing it or knowing it.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 6, 2014, 06:17 AM
I do care and I did tell the police everything who knows what's going to happen to them now.I really feel like a total lagger. A disappointment lo my parents and the worst friend ever. But ha positive side at least I can't be blamed for anyone dying or getting addicted to drugs right. I feel so guilty I should have made better choices never mind though. Now just to get this out of my system so my dad will let me out the house.

Talk about a reality check bam I get it I told the police

smoothy
Nov 6, 2014, 06:20 AM
If you told the police EVERYTHING, and named names and everything. Then you did do the right thing... And it should reflect positively for you. Whatever happens to the other people is completely their own faults. Not yours. They would have turned you in quickly to save their own skins or get a lesser charge if the roles were reversed.

I've seen that happen many, many times. Also a critical life lesson is not everyone who talks nice to you is your friend. In fact very few people you will meet and interact with in your life would ever be considered real friends. The rest are just acquaintances. There is a very big difference between the two. YOU will learn the differences soon enough... the hard way. And not in just this specific situation. Everyone does, most don't have to sit in a police station or jail cell to learn it however.

There are a LOT of people that pretend to be your friends....as long as they are getting something from you. The instant the table turns and you need something from them that inconveniences them, They will be gone. Until you learn to spot them, you WILL be taken advantage of, over and over.

Learn form your mistakes...don't repeat them...or one day you will find yourself inside a prison looking outside.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 6, 2014, 06:32 AM
Positively for me yah I don't get charged. I get it I've had it drilled Into to me all day by everyone I'm stupid if I don't lag, they are not my friends they only use me, it's all my fault if something happens to anyone else, think of me future. It's done my dad should be happy now

I don't intend to do anything that will get me in trouble and I couldn't care less if I ever had friends again what good is that

smoothy
Nov 6, 2014, 06:35 AM
You won't always get the break you did this time. In a few short years you will be 18... and everything automatically becomes a LOT more serious at that point, as do the consequences of bad decisions.

If there ever is a next time... it won't go as well for you.

Like I say... ALWAYS learn from your mistakes... big or small. It will make you a better person in the long run.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 6, 2014, 06:49 AM
I don't expect to get anymore breaks. I didn't expect to ask me dad for help with a problem to be given no choice and be taken to the police station to be charged. How's that for me dad. I'm ruining my life way to help me get me charged criminal record clap clap. Believe me I've learnt from my mistakes ALL of them.

joypulv
Nov 6, 2014, 06:53 AM
'Anyway I go I'm mess things up.'

Yes. Welcome to the adult world of serious choices. You sound like a good kid, partly because you asked about all this, and partly because you actually are listening to people here! Not something a lot of teens are willing to do.

Loyalty among teens is fierce because teens are in that gap between family loyalty and being their own person. Teens look to each other for just about every decision and viewpoint and even what to wear and what music is good.

In 5 years you will realize that those guys were definitely only out for themselves.

Good luck with your decision. The cops understand how hard it is to rat. No one really likes to rat or even likes someone who rats - unless it's the right decision. This isn't who got into the cookie jar.

J_9
Nov 6, 2014, 06:57 AM
As you are learning, there are consequences to your actions. Your Dad is employing tough love. Good for him, as it seems you have already had issues living with your mum.

Maybe if you played by the rules you wouldn't be in this situation.

Guess what. None of us feel sorry for you. You brought this on all yourself. Dad won't let you leave the house? Boo boo. You deserve more than that. You have access to the internet, consider yourself lucky.

Its time to quit whining and face your punishment.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 6, 2014, 07:26 AM
I deserve more punishment OK glad you think so. Wish someone would write these rules out for me cause I don't get told any so sorry if I don't know what I'm doing. I know I brought this on me self.

J_9
Nov 6, 2014, 07:34 AM
Guess what kiddo. Life doesn't come with a set of rules. Your only requirement is to follow the rules of your parents and school. The rest of it is for you to figure out. Do good, get rewarded. Do bad, face the consequences. It really isn't that hard.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 6, 2014, 07:55 AM
Seriously there are way to many rules to many lessons to learn glad you think it's easy but ha I guess we can't all be perfect. I made one mistake just one stupid decision. Ok maybe one big stupid choice. Ill get over it sure everyone else will eventually

Thinkaboutit
Nov 6, 2014, 08:05 AM
I'm being bratty sorry don't mean to be my is all over the place at the moment don't know what's up with that anyway if I have been rude don't mean to be. I need some major sleep haven't slept for nearly two days cranky.

smoothy
Nov 6, 2014, 08:29 AM
99% of rules are common sense and self explanatory.

Picture yourself a parent.....you have a 15 year old kid....how would YOU feel about anyone selling them Meth, crack, Heroin etc? Can you even imagine that situation?

There is also a legal precedent that ignorance of the law is no excuse. Meaning you can and will be arrested charged, tried and convicted for doing anything that you don't "know" is against the law.

Seriously... that's the real world... that's life. Its far harder and colder than you think it is at 15 and being supported by someone else.

When you are an adult... you find a way to earn enough to pay your way through life or you live on the street, eating out of garbage dumpsters. If you don't marry someone else smart enough to do it for you. DO something that's against the law, you find yourself in jail, maybe for a very, very long time.

Life is tough... it's tougher for those who don't have or don't want to use common sense.

Your Dad or mom are going to be the most forgiving persons you are ever going to meet. But they can't protect you from everything... or even most things.

J_9
Nov 6, 2014, 08:38 AM
Life isn't easy. I was 15 once and I've raised three 15 year olds so far. Still one to go. BUT following the rules is easy.Understand I'm talking to you exactly like I would talk to one of my children.In life you are given choices. With that comes responsibility. If you make the wrong choices you have yo suffer the vonsequences. No complaining. You are lucky to have access to the internet after the crap you pulled. In my house you would have your bed and your clothes. Nothing else. Not even a door on your bedroom.You may think your father is being harsh, but the truth is that he loves you and wants what is best for you. He is teaching you about consequences so that you don't end up dead or in prison for the rest of your life.You can't sleep for one of two reasons. You are still getting high because you his some of your stash and are still using, or you are starting to withdrawal.

Thinkaboutit
Nov 6, 2014, 01:53 PM
No door wow that's pretty harsh! Would have preferred that then being taken to the police station don't know how that shows he loves me. If he was trying to scare me he didn't have to I already knew I could be charged if I got caught with anything on me I'm not totally stupid. I went to him for help I just wanted some help to try and fix the stupid stuff I was doing punish me fair enough ground me take my stuff I don't care but take me to the police. No complaint that's kind of hard when my own dad does that. It's not like he caught me doing drugs I made the choice I thought about it heaps what would happen if I got caught and I was sick of being used just to get high. I haven't taken anything for 2 days I'm not totally stupid I do still have some stuff but I'm not going to take any just need to get rid of it a bit hard though me step mum is constantly around.

Oliver2011
Nov 6, 2014, 02:04 PM
You know you can't see it now but parents will do anything to make sure their kids are safe and live to be old. That's called unconditional love. You will know that once you father a child - 10 years from now. Sorry - the parent came out in me. Instead of being ticked at your dad, why don't you go to him and say thank you.

Bottomline, do bad things - expect bad consequences. Do good things - expect good consequences. That's the way life is now and forever.


No door wow that's pretty harsh! Would have preferred that then being taken to the police station don't know how that shows he loves me. If he was trying to scare me he didn't have to I already knew I could be charged if I got caught with anything on me I'm not totally stupid. I went to him for help I just wanted some help to try and fix the stupid stuff I was doing punish me fair enough ground me take my stuff I don't care but take me to the police. No complaint that's kind of hard when my own dad does that. It's not like he caught me doing drugs I made the choice I thought about it heaps what would happen if I got caught and I was sick of being used just to get high. I haven't taken anything for 2 days I'm not totally stupid I do still have some stuff but I'm not going to take any just need to get rid of it a bit hard though me step mum is constantly around.