I'm not really sure why I'm writing this I really don't want to be judged by anyone but I need some advise. I'm totally stuffing up my life doing stuff I know I shouldn't but can't seem to stop, I have tried but its hard I can't sleep, I feel sick so I just keep on doing it to feel better. I want to stop but don't know how. My parents are totally pissed with me don't blame them stuff I done to them but they don't understand I can't talk to them either of them. How can I change the way I am and the stuff I do without feeling so horrible

What stuff? Please give details.

That was very vague didn't really give much info so here goes I take pills mostly pain pills sometimes other stuff what ever I can get really I like the feeling I get when I'm on them don't need to worry about anything else. I smoke pot sometimes, I drink and smoke. I want to stop all of it but its hard. I feel so horrible when I'm not on the pills not even the pot makes me feel better. I could easily give up some things but not others I don't know how to. I don't want to tell me parents they are not together and they don't need anymore crap from me. Help what do I do

You are addicted. This won't go away on its own and you do need help. It's time to talk to your parents so they can get you in rehab before you overdose.

I don't think I'm addicted I do want to stop. I don't think I'll overdose I don't take heaps of pills at once only 3 or 4. I can't tell my parents seriously they would kill me I'd be better of killing myself then deal with them.

What's rehab like is it the only way to stop can't I just like do something else. If I just stop taking them do you know how Long it will make me feel sick for it makes me feel horrible.

How old are you? Do you live with either parent or both of them? in the U.S.?

I'm 15 I stay with me dad, nar I live in australia. Me mum sent me to live with me dad thought I'd be better off. Don't think she'll ever let me come back. Not that I'd want to anyway.

Where are you getting these pills from?

If I don't stop taking the pills mainly the oxy and tramadol will it do any long term damage to me? I could stop the rest straight out. Maybe cut down them stop

Of course they will cause long term damage. So who is giving you these pills?

I just buy them from kids at school you can always find something. What kind of damage I know that's a stupid question but I kind of thought if they were prescription they could be that bad.

If you are abusing oxy and tram afoul you risk death. Yes, I said death.

You also risk some serious jail time by buying them from kids at school. That is illegal.

Wow that's scary but its not like it's that easy to stop I've tried to just not take anything and I feel horrible. I don't know what to do, maybe ill just cut down first I don't know

Stopping oxy and tram adom will make you very sick for a short time. Rehab is best because it is controlled and you get treatment to learn how to avoid triggers that will make you want to start again.

You can die just by taking one oxy. They are very addictive. At 15 I'm not sure you can do this on your own.

I didn't think it could be that bad I mean doctors give this stuff to people not like I take heaps of them thought they would be better than the ecstasy or acid I use to use don't know what's it them

I don't understand what are triggers. If its only a short while how long is that

Triggers -- what happens to make you want to take something to stop pain or make you feel better?

I didn't think it could be that bad I mean doctors give this stuff to people not like I take heaps of them thought they would be better than the ecstasy or acid I use to use don't know what's it them

I don't understand what are triggers. If its only a short while how long is that

Junior, let me say this J9 is telling you the truth if you don't get that" Monkey" off your back the people in Aus. will be reading about you in the local paper. You know nothing about what you are doing to yourself and bigger and smarter people than you have tried. You can read about them all the time. So talk to your dad and get into rehab. Believe me talking to your dad will be like a walk in the park compared to what will happen if you don't. Maybe one day you will look back and say I did the right thing. Good Luck Bloke.

I didn't think it could be that bad I mean doctors give this stuff to people not like I take heaps of them thought they would be better than the ecstasy or acid I use to use don't know what's it them

I don't understand what are triggers. If its only a short while how long is that

Yes, doctors prescribe these meds to people. People who are in intense pain and need this. They don't just give them out because people want them.

So, you are getting them from kids at school. Ever wonder where these kids get them? Most likely they are stealing them from parents or grandparents. They are stealing them from people who need them.

Where I live very few doctors prescribe oxy any more because it is so extremely addictive.

Now, ow, you can continue to essentially steal these pain meds from people who need them, or get yourself into rehab before your father has to write your obituary.

Talking to my dad might seem like the best way to go but trust me its not he wouldn't even be able to afford to get me help so no point even talking to him he hates me anyway thinks I'm too much like me mum ha if only he knew. I really don't want either of them to know want to be able to stop on me own do it myself.

He is going to know something is going on when you go through withdrawals. You won't be able to hide that from him.

If you can't talk to him, talk to a school counselor. You can't do this on your own. I'm a nurse, I know how serious this is.

How bad do you think it will be like getting off the pain pills can I do it on my own I've never really been determined to do it before only didn't have any cause had to wait to get some. Just want to know is it possible for me to do it,

Well, I think you've made the right first step. You decided you want to do better and change, and you've started asking for help. The thing is though, you are going to have to change your perspective on your parents - they are frustrated and drilling you probably because they don't understand. They need to know all that you know about the problem, and it will release a huge burden for you if you tell them. Don't unleash it in an argument.

If you were my son (and I do have a 19 year old son) I would greatly respect if he came to me and said, "Mom, I need your help. I know I've made very bad decisions and I need to change but I'm having a hard time changing. Can you just listen to me while I tell you the whole story? I'm afraid if you interrupt in the middle I'm going to get defensive and shut down - I just want to give you all the information and then see if you can help me solve the problem."

Then, you tell them the whole story and you include the details and you don't leave any out. If you do, they won't trust that they know what they need to know and you will still be on the hot seat with them, and they will still hassle you. I know because as a Mom, if I sensed my son was holding back about something that put him in danger, I'd be like a pitt bull chewing on his last nerve until he told me the rest. I wouldn't want to do that, but am not sure I"d be able not to.

So then you tell them, "I have had a compulsion to take prescription medications. I am taking up to 4 at a time and what I've taken is Tramedol and (whatever you're taking - and tell the truth about how much). I first got if from (whomever or wherever) because I heard it would make me feel better and I just felt terrible about some things. I can tell you more about that later. When I ran out from that source, I got them from X, and then from X and now I am getting them from X. I don't so much feel chemically addicted as I do that I have a compulsive behavior but I don't really understand it.

I know I'm screwing up and am disappointing you and I need help. I will cooperate with whatever you recommend that I do because I know I can't do this alone. I am hoping that even though you're really mad at me and disappointed, you can put your anger and disappointment to the side until I'm doing better, and then we can deal with that later. I'm not sure I can handle it right now. Will you please help me?"

That's the idea of it. Just be honest. Tell your parents what you need. And be absolutely cooperative and willing and eager for their help. They will want you to go to rehab - that's pretty much a given. You need to go. Even if you don't think you are addicted, that's a start and will work on the emotional and psychological reasons. If it turns out to be the wrong place for you, it's still a start and will get you the referral to the right kind of program.

Be open. Don't expect to understand anything at first - just go with the flow, do what you're advised to do. Don't fight it. Submit to the fact that you are over your head and need some other people to take charge for a while. It may seem like you're losing control, but strangely, submitting to others and letting them kind of call the shots for you is what is going to lead you to independence. I know that sounds weird, but that is the truth.

I have known many people who struggled with addictive behaviors, substance issues and compulsions and the most freeing thing any of them have done was to say, "hell - I don't know what the F I'm doing trying to fix this problem. I need to turn it over to other people and to my God. Tell me what to do - I'll do it".

Seriously friggin hell what have I got me self into. I didn't think straight out just didn't think I'm screwed now

What happened? Keep in mind - you're really young and every big problem will seem impossible (probably because you're new to managing adult problems). Every problem has a solution. Take a breath, tell us what's going on. What do you mean by being screwed?

Wow thanks for the advise wish my parents were people I could talk to easily to be honest I don't think me dad would even let me explain very much to him I'd just end up getting a beating as soon as I said I was taking drugs, I've been busted drinking and my punishment was not very nice. I know I need help but I don't want to go to me dad. I don't know how mum would react but she doesn't even live in the same town as me. I've done a lot of wrong things to me mum that's why she sent me away. Oh by the way I'm not a boy I'm a girl didn't mention that

Sorry I just meant I was screwed cause of the mess I've made of me life not thinking doing what ever I wanted to. And now what am I going to do to get myself out of this friggin hole I've dug. Yah me not stupid

Thought about it heaps me dad and step mum are going away this weekend for 4 days I think, I'm going to stop taking them when they go so hopefully they won't notice anything. Talked to one of me friends at school he reckons it not so bad so I reckon I can do it by me self.thanks heaps for all the advice.

Good luck. You will need it especially if you are taking oxycontin.

You make it sound really hard it can't be that hard me friend said it wasn't so bad I've only been taking the stuff for 6 months. I feel horrible when I stop taking them but he said it wouldn't last to long. Is it going to be hard I'm kind of scared now?

Here you go kiddo. This is what you have to look forward to.

The following are common symptoms of OxyContin withdrawal:


Nausea.
Vomiting.
Diarrhea.
Coughing.
Runny nose.
Depression.
Anxiety.
Joint, muscle, and bone aches.


Oxy is extremely addictive. Going away with the folks for 4 days won't cure your addiction. You will still be withdrawing enough that when you get back you will be searching for another fix.

Now I don't know what to do if I don't stop I could die but if I do try to I'm going to feel so bad I won't want to stop. Maybe if I try just stop taking the oxy and stay on the tramadol or get something else. Geez what am I going to do

You have to tell a trusted adult. That is the ONLY thing you can do if you want to fix yourself.

The only thing geez if I knew it was going to be like this I'm going to be in so much trouble I guess there is No way me dad isn't going to find out then. I'm screwed no matter what I do. I don't see how any of it will help though I'm still going to have to go through it all and then everyone will just think I'm trouble. I'm so friggin mad them douche bags never said it would be his hard me own fault though

Your friends don't have any reason to tell you how hard withdrawal is. They are just making money off you.

You got yourself into this kiddo. You need help.

If I tell me dad and he decides to send me to rehab how will it be any different than doing it by me self except me parents will know. I'm not really sure what rehab is all about?

Rehab will detox your system. You will also go through counseling to help you find out why you are doing drugs and how to stop.

Ok but I don't need counselling I can stop I know I can I'm just worried about getting sick and me dad finding out. It's all really confusing. If only me dad didn't have to know. Anyway better decide what I'm going to do I suppose

You need counseling because it will teach you how to avoid this in the future.

I need to pack me stuff and leave get away think that might be the easiest thing to do. I can't do this I'm to scared to tell me dad

So you think running away will make it easier?

Yes, that's how 15 year olds think. They don't think about the consequences to their actions.

How will your dad feel when you run away. What will happen to you when he finds you AND finds out you are on drugs?

Yeah it will be easier than facing him trust me all I'm thinking about is the consequences. He won't find me or find out about the drugs my friends will let me stay at their place. If he finds me I don't want to think about what would happen. I should just take all my pills and just go to sleep but I'm to scared to do that but he scares me as well

He will find you. I promise you that. If your friend's parents let you stay there, they will be breaking the law and he will have them arrested.

So, you want to get other people in trouble too?

I don't him to find me what makes you think he would.I don't want to get anyone in trouble. Ill just forget about it you really don't know my dad hrs a harsh person

How do I know he will find you? I'm a parent. I know how parents think.

Considering what you are going through maybe he needs to be harsh on you. It seems you get away with a lot right now. My children would never be on drugs. I would notice it immediately.

Maybe I do deserve what he's going to do. I don't see how I am getting away with heaps so I take a few pills its not like I'm hurting any one don't know how he would even notice not like I act any different. It's not like I want to do it anymore but I'm confused.

It's not like you are hurting anyone? You are hurting yourself. How many people will be hurt when you die because of this?

I know you don't want to do it anymore, but you won't take anyone's advice. I don't know what to say anymore.

This has gone on for 5 pages. You either get help or you stay addicted. It is your choice. I've tried to help, but you have excuses for everything. I wish you well. I'm done trying to help.

Your right guess I just need to grow some and face me dad every other thing I think of just doesn't seem like it will work out. I got myself here I suppose I'll just have to face it now I don't want to die I want to live me life and I'm sick of getting used just so I can get high. What's the worst that can happen nothing worse than he's done before and I took that so your right I need help. Thanks for talking with me. Guess I should just get this over with

If you are taking a substance to escape, feel better, get rid of the pain and are scared to stop - that is addiction. A person who is addicted generally can convince them self that they can stop on their own, or cut down or change the scenery and that will change the addiction.

Changing how you think, act, react and deal with life, both daily and long term is something that others who have been through the same struggles can be immensely helpful with.

Rehab isn't just about getting clean, it is about learning how you are not alone. Others have been through the same, worse and not as bad - yet, but you will have some very similar stories. You are young and have a chance to not ruin your life over what has started.

It sounds like you feel very alone and like no one understands. There are people who understand and can help you get through, especially emotionally and mentally. After the physical effects wear off, you will need a support system. If that is not your parents, then rehab and 12 programs can offer that.

Usually, running away will only add to the problems and increase the chances of continuing to use. I hope you seek and find the help and support it sounds like you desperately need.

Well I did it I told him well I txt him a very long message thought it might be easier. Don't know how he feels he rang like 9 times but I was to scared to pick up phone he messages me told me to stay in the house he is on his way home now. He's so totally going to go off I know don't blame him I suppose I better hide my stuff so I can get rid of it later if he found it in the house my god then I would be dead. I guess that's one part over I told him now I get to face him he should be here in 10 minutes

Oxys are opiates... heroine. Is an opiate.. . you should listen to the advice you're getting your parents actually want the best for you and love you very much.. . sounds like they're just caught up in their own crap... but if you ask for help it'd be better because they will find out hopefully before you kill yourself.. . find it in your heart to lover yourself enough to reach out

I knew he was going to lose it can't believe he slapped me god I hate him supposed I deserved it though he's totally destroyed my room looking for drugs think I made it worse hiding me pills he found them and went totally ballistic reckons he's going to call the police because I won't tell him who I got them from I ain't no lagger. He can call the cops if he really wants to get his own daughter charged a hole. Don't know what's going on now kind of just tuned him out my ear was still ringing from him and all that yelling made it worse. I feel like crap though cant sleep and I hate being stuck in me room feel like jumping out me window and going for a walk but I'm to scared if he caught me. Don't know what to do now what if he does call the cops would I be charged?

You should be proud that you owned up to your wrong doings but why did you hide the pills instead of flushing them... do you realize you have to stay away from anything associated with your addiction even friends or so called friends. Sorry when your dad doesn't know how to deal with things it's a physical punishment but hopefully if you really do get help and stick with sobriety... your relationship will improve.. . it's not all your parents fault... I'll pray for you

I knew he was going to lose it can't believe he slapped me god I hate him supposed I deserved it though he's totally destroyed my room looking for drugs think I made it worse hiding me pills he found them and went totally ballistic reckons he's going to call the police because I won't tell him who I got them from I ain't no lagger. He can call the cops if he really wants to get his own daughter charged a hole. Don't know what's going on now kind of just tuned him out my ear was still ringing from him and all that yelling made it worse. I feel like crap though cant sleep and I hate being stuck in me room feel like jumping out me window and going for a walk but I'm to scared if he caught me. Don't know what to do now what if he does call the cops would I be charged?


I'm calling you out as a liar and a troll. Why? Because you told us he already called the police.

Its not easy remembering the order of your lies, is it?

I'm done here. I've wasted too much time on you.

Your dad may be crude, and ill informed, and given you hell so far, and it's a real rocky start to things getting better (I hope) but getting proper help, guidance and support to get off the dope, AND STAYING OFF, is well worth it.

I commend your courage (or desperation, doesn't matter) for reaching out, as doing the right thing is seldom, almost NEVER easy. Hang in there kid, and get with the program of LIFE, because it may get worse before it gets better.

You can get through this, and believe me when I say, MANY have, and if you hang in there and get with the program, you will look back and say this was the best day of your life because you actually confronted your addiction, and did something positive for yourself.

All you have to do is listen, and do as you are told. I know that's NOT easy either.

I didn't say me dad already rang the police I said he was going to call them if I didn't tell him if I didn't tell him who I got my pills from. He got angry with me for not telling him and just took me to the police station. I then had to make a choice of what I wanted to do if I was going to tell them who I hot the stuff from or if I was going to be charged with possession. If you think I'm lying that's fine I didn't ask anyone to believe me anyway just wanted some advice so thanks even if I don't seem like I didn't appreciate it I have

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I do care and I did tell the police everything who knows what's going to happen to them now.I really feel like a total lagger. A disappointment lo my parents and the worst friend ever. But ha positive side at least I can't be blamed for anyone dying or getting addicted to drugs right. I feel so guilty I should have made better choices never mind though. Now just to get this out of my system so my dad will let me out the house.

Talk about a reality check bam I get it I told the police

So, your dad did or did not take you to the police? Which is it?

When I told me dad about the drugs he asked me who gave them to me I refused to tell him he threatened to call the police I still wouldn't tell him so he took me to the police station with the pills he found the police lady spoke to me and told me if I didn't tell them who was my supplier that I would be charged possession. I was aloud home after and told I had 2 day to either tell them or I would be charged I made the choice to tell the police everything so my dad took me back and I made a statement so I didn't get charged but still have to do some drug awareness classes. If you think I'm lying fine I get it it's the Internet. I only came on here to ask for some advice seeing as I don't have anybody else to ask

I didn't say me dad already rang the police I said he was going to call them if I didn't tell him if I didn't tell him who I got my pills from.

Which is it?


I did tell the police everything

Talk about a reality check bam I get it I told the police

Seriously I said me dad reckoned he was going to call the police if I didn't tell him who I got the pills from that's what I wrote, I wouldn't tell my dad where I got the pills from because I thought he was bluffing. I suppose he got pissed at me for not telling him so he took me into the police station. After I went to the police station I asked my next question about what I should do and then after all the advice I got I decided to tell the police everything so me dad took me back to the police station. God I'm not friggin lying but whatever

I think the discrepancy may be in the timing of the posts. When timestamps are about 20-24 hours apart it is easy to misread them. It looks like the one with dad threatening to call the police was from Nov. 5th (USA) and the posts about telling the police are from Nov. 6th (USA).

Have you talked to your dad about getting help? While you are online have looked up organizations that can help you stay clean?

dad hasn't really said too much to me except that I have to stay in my room and not come out unless he says so. I haven't looked up anything on the net to be honest I don't really want to go to rehab or anything Im ordered to do some drug awareness corse by the police if I don't complete that then I can still be charged and I have to have random drug tests for 6 months. So that's enough I'm not going to take anymore pills anyway.

I just hope you save yourself from the addiction(s) sorry that you didn't have anyone to talk to hopefully you do now... your parents

Are there any more pills in your room or hidden somewhere nearby?

Yes I still have some hidden in the house but I can't get rid of them I'm not aloud out of me room. I don't want to get caught with them but I don't want me dad to find them either cause I lied to him when he found the other pills and said that was it should have just gave the others to him but I panicked

Now what? You're going to get them somehow and take them? Don't flush them. Bad for the water supply. Can you give them directly to the police, like you found more? I'm scared you're going to take them and make this worse for yourself.

I really can't be bothered I have no energy to worry about the other pills I can't get them I'm stuck in me room. Definitely wouldn't take them to the police I'd be in serious trouble theirs to many of them ill just get rid of them later. I'm definitely not going to take them anyway I've come this far don't want to go back

The right thing to do is come completely clean. Its bad enough to be isolated at this time and left to your own stinking thinking without the proper guidance, but even worse to not come completely clean to start fresh. Such a halfway measure will come back to bite you, and while I understand you are afraid of even more stuff coming down on you, it will be far worse when your deception come to light.

You really do need a trusted adult who knows what they are doing and I encourage you if you are afraid of the cop, to confide in your drug awareness counsellor to remedy this situation with the additional pill. Of course you can't see the dangers of still having a stash, (a substantial one?) and risking the cops thinking you are a seller, because all those people you turned in will surely tell them how much and how long they have been supplying you to save their own skins.

You don't know how many times I have seen this happen, or how many time I have seen people fresh from being caught, or beaten up by their addiction, and want to clean up, be tempted yet again to use just a little bit, because they have survived the initial storm and feel better.

If you are serious about changing your life, then don't expect good results to come from half stepping and stinking thinking. Let me be clear. The same things that got you in this mess is still there, waiting bite you in the butt really hard. I wish you had a trusted KNOWLEDGEABLE adult for guidance and support. That goes for your dad too!

http://www.na.org/

I can't get to the pills without someone seeing me I've hide them in the kitchen under the sink there is no possible way for me to get them without being caught so I'm not worried about trying to take them. I understand what you are saying about them still being there though. Its not an issue for me at the moment. I suppose I could wait until they are asleep and then get rid of them but I don't know if that's such a good idea I'd hate to get caught think ill just leave it for now

I could tell me dad but if he took me to the police station I'd be in big trouble then.

How long has it been now since you took any pills? How are you feeling (physically)?

It's been three days since I've taken any pills I'm so tried but haven't had any sleep well maybe a few hours sleep. My tummy aches all the time I feel like I'm going to chuck but can't and sweating heaps I swear sometimes it feels like me heart is going to jump out of me chest. I wish I could get out of this room I need to get some air I feel so closed in. But I shouldn't complain me own fault consequences for my action and all that stuff

Withdrawal Symptoms for Drug and Alcohol Addiction: Physical, Emotional (http://addictionsandrecovery.org/withdrawal.htm)

The Symptoms of Addiction Withdrawal - Different Drugs, Different Dangers (http://www.addictionsearch.com/treatment_articles/article/the-symptoms-of-addiction-withdrawal-different-drugs-different-dangers_67.html)

Yep your consequence are coming down all right.

Withdrawal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal)

That was very vague didn't really give much info so here goes I take pills mostly pain pills sometimes other stuff what ever I can get really I like the feeling I get when I'm on them don't need to worry about anything else. I smoke pot sometimes, I drink and smoke. I want to stop all of it but its hard. I feel so horrible when I'm not on the pills not even the pot makes me feel better. I could easily give up some things but not others I don't know how to. I don't want to tell me parents they are not together and they don't need anymore crap from me. Help what do I do

Also don't do nothing stupied

Trust me I won't be doing anything stupid I just wish I was dead right now would be less painful. Yep my consequences are definitely coming down and if they go away I promise I will never ever be so dumb again I just need to do something to keep me mind occupied stop thinking blah

Study the links I gave you, when your brain can think, it's the start of learning. Cold turkey is no fun so good luck.

Stay off the pity pot!!!!