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jenilynallyn
Aug 26, 2014, 01:53 PM
Hi.. I could really use some advice.. my boyfriend did a year in prison.. he got out Feb 2014... he was on parole and one of his parole rules was he couldn't be around me... around 2months ago he got arrested cause his parole officer found out he was around me... he spent a couple weeks in jail then his po released him with a 9:00pm curfew and still wasn't allowed around me. Last night I was getting home and I seen him pulled over on my road.. (this was at 2am) they gave him driving under suspension.. he had just gotten his licence back so didn't really understand why they were suspended. His po arrested him a few hours ago because. Out past curfew and he knew my boyfriend got pulled over in my neighborhood.. even though I wasn't w him... what will happen for a 2nd pv for just being around someone your not suppose to?

smoothy
Aug 26, 2014, 02:11 PM
Habitual Parole violations... they are going to throw the book at him. If he just got his licenses back... how did he get charged for driving under a suspension. Something isn't adding up there. That's a pretty serious charge in itself. I've seen many people get sentenced to a year in jail in traffic court on that charge alone.

AK lawyer
Aug 26, 2014, 02:47 PM
The conditions of parole have to be more specific, I would think, than to "not be around" OP. And she tells us that he was caught "pulled over on my road.. ", and "in my neighborhood". If the order prohibited him from being within a certain distance of OP, and he was caught violating that order, he is obviously in heap big trouble.

odinn7
Aug 26, 2014, 02:54 PM
...and it was 2am that he was caught while his curfew was 9pm. He's got a number of things that show that he doesn't want to follow his parole orders. I would think this time that they are not going to cut him any kind of break.

jenilynallyn
Aug 26, 2014, 03:34 PM
He got his licence back 2 months ago.. he paid 350 reinstatement fee had to show proof of insurance and a couple days later they were valid.. then when he gets pulled over last night they are invalid.. the police officer that pulled him over pulled him over about a month ago and his licence were valid.. the cop even said it doesn't make sense how his licence are suspended and told him to go in court and plead not guilty.. he has kept up on his insurance and everything.. and no.. his po didn't tell him he couldn't be so many feet around me or in my neighborhood.. he told my boyfriend when he got out of jail for that couple weeks to not get caught being around me... I live at a lake.. so there are lots of roads around me... my road takes you all the way to the back of the lake.. when I seen him pulled over I went straight to my house and the police impounded hid car and he got a ride home... I can understand him getting a pv for being out past curfew but how are they going to get him for a pv of being around me to when they have no proof he was around me.. he's allowed to be at lake Choctaw (where I live) he also has a few friends out here... I'm only guessing his po assumed he was around me because he seen where he got pulled over at and his po knows I live at lake Choctaw.. his po never told him he couldn't come out here... so why wouldn't they just pv him for curfew?

jenilynallyn
Aug 26, 2014, 03:46 PM
He has kept a job and followed all parole rules... passes every drug screen.. the only pv he has gotten is for being around me and they let him go that time... but I really wasn't w him last night when he got pulled over.. I just so happen to be getting home at the same time he was pulled over in my neighborhood... I went straight home when I passed him because I didn't want anything to happen w us being around each other because I already knew once his po found out he got pulled over past 9 that he was going to get a pv... how can they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was with me when we really honestly wasn't together... when he has no rules saying he can't be at lake Choctaw or a certain distance from me.. his po is just automatically assuming I was with him because he knows I live out here.. and it's a huge lake.. all his po has to do is ask the officer that pulled him over if he was alone.. witch he was so why not just pv him for curfew

talaniman
Aug 26, 2014, 04:12 PM
Right now you don't know what he will be exactly violated for and unless you are in contact somehow, you may never know. Even if he gets past the suspended license charge, breaking curfew still gives him a violation. The PO doesn't have to prove you were around. Doesn't matter, he is at the mercy of the court for a serious violation.

He shouldn't be anywhere but HOME at 2 AM. Question I have is how do YOU know all these details? Are you a felon, and on parole yourself, or something. Why is being around you a condition of his parole?

jenilynallyn
Aug 26, 2014, 04:41 PM
Yes he should have been home by curfew... and I'm not worried about the suspended licence.. he has all the paperwork showing he did everything he was suppose to do to get his licence back.. he has the paper from reinstatement saying his licence were valid and all his proof of insurance... he is not allowed being with me while on parole because he went to. Prison for domestic violence over me (please don't judge on that.. it's not what you think even though those words sound horrible) I know so much about parole and felons from doing so much research on it.. that's all I did when he was in prison was read about it.. I just find it interesting... and that's how I know the parole commissioner has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to the parole board on revocation that he was around me in order to violate him... they have no proof because I wasn't... they can get him for breaking curfew and he won't get a pv for driving under suspended licence unless he's convicted of it.. so I guess what I'm really asking is how long can he get for pv for breaking curfew if that's what they are getting him for

Alty
Aug 26, 2014, 04:53 PM
So he wasn't right beside you, but he was out past curfew (a condition of his parole) and he was parked on your street (not allowed to be "around" you), and according to this post he's obviously talking to you, since there's no way you could know everything that's going on with him and this situation unless you were talking to him about it.

This is the second time he broke conditions of his parole. Being out past his curfew is enough to get him sent back to jail, so no need to prove he wasn't actually with you. It doesn't matter. He broke one condition of parole, and that's enough.

How long was he sentenced for? He'll likely go to jail for the remainder of that sentence for breaking his parole.

jenilynallyn
Aug 26, 2014, 05:04 PM
Well of course I talked to him last night after he got home.. I never said I wasn't talking to him.. I just said I wasn't with him last night... I also have talked to his mother.. and he wasn't parked on my street.. this lake that I live on.. as soon as you pull into the main entrance.. the main road is my road.. that's the road he got pulled over on.. NOT parked on my street.. he got pulled over because you have to have a certain sticker on your vehicle living out here.. it's a private lake and he happened to be in his dad's truck which doesn't have a sticker... and when he was sentenced for prison time.. they gave him a plea bargain for 1year and he served the whole year.. so how would he have any time left to serve? Would they just put him in jail for the remainder of the time he would have been on parole.. he was suppose to be off in feb

Fr_Chuck
Aug 26, 2014, 09:07 PM
Normally not around you, really means NO contact.

I would say, he knows a lot more about this, than he is telling you.
Parole is not like probation, he will be assumed quilty and they do not need as much proof to put him back into prison,

I would say he will do a few months at least, if not go back for full term.

odinn7
Aug 26, 2014, 09:11 PM
Of course it really doesn't matter because he did break his curfew but they will say that he was on his way to see you because he would have no other reason to be at the lake at 2 am...and he was already caught seeing you once before...so that should be enough to prove, in their minds anyway, that he was on his way to see you. Even if they can't prove that, he broke the curfew that was set for him. So he violated 2 times, once AFTER they already gave him a break, so it shows he doesn't care much for the rules they gave him.

J_9
Aug 26, 2014, 09:28 PM
That he violated because he was out past curfew. He was already given a break so he should have to face the consequences.

He was apparently in prison, not jail, for domestic violence against you. Why are you still with him?

jenilynallyn
Aug 26, 2014, 10:44 PM
I just for through saying he was in prison for a year for DV.. not jail.. I'm still w him because he actually kept me from going to jail for it.. as I mentioned in previous post.. please don't judge on that because it's not what anyone thinks.. which may be hard for anyone reading this to believe... but I wasn't trying to get into our past problems. And yes he should face consequences.. never said he shouldn't.. was just trying to get input on what and how long his consequence would be.. he has a few friends out here at the lake and recently found out from his mom he was going night fishing.. he knew I wasn't home so he obviously wasn't trying to come see me.. I just so happened to be getting home the same time he got pulled over... so his po.can "assume" all he want that that's what he was out here for.. but it has to be proven.. but like a few of you said.. it really doesn't matter either way because he still violated by breaking curfew... he is a very very hard working man... supports me and my 3 boys very well... has the BIGGEST heart any girl could want in a guy.. he doesn't use drugs.. he doesn't abuse me or my children... so if violating his parole for being out past curfew for the first time.. or being around the girl he loves is his biggest issue right now.. I say he's doing pretty good... yea they are rules that needs to be followed... which I take part of the blame for him going to jail for 2 weeks for being around me because I also know better than to be around him... but it can be a very very hard thing to do when we love each other as much as we do.. guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens... thanks for all your helpful answers

jenilynallyn
Aug 26, 2014, 10:52 PM
And also... lets say they do give him 3 months or 6months or however long the jail time may be... does that mean he would be off/done w parole after he got out?

Fr_Chuck
Aug 27, 2014, 01:33 AM
If can do up to the max, ( complete his year) ** I that was a year sentence.

And sorry, this is a parole hearing, not a trial and most rules of evidence does not apply, if he was in your neighborhood, that late, with no good reason, then they will just use that against him. ( but the drinking and the being out, is really all the need)

Again not like TV, not like we discuss about people on probation, where there is a hearing in front of a judge, The parole board will decide this. And normally will do what ever the parole officer recommends.

I will also, add, I will judge, as a officer, I have went back, to a home, time and time again, seen the women, beat, black eyes, maybe marks, and she always says, he is good. Sorry a man, who will hit and beat a women, is a low life scum. And the court is trying to protect you, from the next time.

jenilynallyn
Aug 27, 2014, 03:33 AM
Ok fr Chuck.. I don't know if you are reading all of my posts.. but where did I say anything about drinking in any of my posts? And when did I say it was a trial.. if you go back on my 4th or 5th post.. I CLEARLY said that the PAROLE BOARD decides what will happen to him.. I KNOW ITS NOT A TRIAL... and yes.. I also have seen women lie for their abusers.. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE AN OFFICER/JUDGE/LAWYER TO SEE THESE KIND OF THINGS... it happens all the time.. so hear.. let me explain to you how I KNOW ITS COMMON FOR WOMEN TO LIE.. the night he got his domestic he stayed home to sit with MY 3boys until their grandma came and got them so I could go out w some girlfriends... when I got back home later that night (intoxicated) we started arguing about something we were arguing about earlier that day.. I got completely out of control (which if you knew my family they would tell you themselves I have some anger issues.. that I am now trying to work on and take classes for because of what exactly happened this night).. but let me proceed to say.. I got out of control and hauled off and punched him twice in this face.. leaving him with a black eye and fat lip.. he snatched me up put me down on the ground to try and get me calmed down... all he was doing was holding me down yelling at me for me to calm down.. which I was having a hard time doing... our neighbors called the cops and when they got there my boyfriend was still holding me down... I had a bruise on the back of my shoulder from where he put me down on the ground... the cops seen I was heavily intoxicated and seen my boyfriends face and they took a look at my shoulder... they told me I was going to be arrested for the domestic because of the situation they seen until my boyfriend told them he started everything and I was just using self defense because he did not want me going to jail because of my 3 boys... no I should not have done what I done.. it was a low down dirty thing and I feel bad everyday knowing he spent a year in prison for something I really did... when I went in front of grand jury.. I told them the truth about what really happened.. that I was the one that attacked him.. they had all pictures of what I did to him and had all my pictures with not a scratch on me (except for bruise on shoulder)... but guess what... like you said.. they only thought I was trying to cover for him like most women do BECAUSE THEY SEE IT SO MUCH.. so when a man really is NOT GUILTY of a domestic.. it doesn't matter because it's all about what the women say because they are a woman even though they had evidence showing otherwise... how sad is that.. so no Mr fr Chuck... NOT ALL SITUATIONS FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAS THE FULL TRUTH.. but thank you for saying that so I could explain to you what really happened in our situation even though that was not even suppose to be the topic of my post.. so if you could do me a favor and re read my posts because I have no idea where you got any of your info from saying I said something about drinking and it being a trial.. I know exactly who makes his pv decision for him.. let me note this was the first post I said anything about drinking