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 tableclocks
Jan 11, 2014, 02:20 PM
I  am retired so  no state tax are withheld from the  checks I get, but  I have to pay them when I do my  MD  return. How do I deduct them on my fed return  when I don't know how much  they are till I do my  MD  return? 
 
Thank  you. Richard
 ScottGem
Jan 11, 2014, 02:29 PM
Do your state return first.
 smearcase
Jan 11, 2014, 04:26 PM
You have no state tax withheld from you retirement because you elected to not have state tax withheld, most likely.
Most folks in your status pay quarterly estimated taxes and if an insufficient amount is paid (eg you owe more than a set amount), you pay a penalty.
You can deduct the amount of state tax you paid, as documented on your 1099R (probably zero in your case) or the amount you paid when you filed MD taxes last year.
 
 
 
                              http://www.irs.gov/static_assets/img/logo.png              (http://www.irs.gov/)         
Topic 503 - Deductible Taxes
There are four types of deductible non-business taxes:          
 
 
 State, local and foreign income taxes 
 State, local and foreign real estate taxes 
 State, and local personal property taxes, and 
 State and local general sales taxes 
 
               To be deductible, the tax must be imposed on you and must have          been paid during your tax year. Taxes may be claimed only as an itemized          deduction on  Form 1040, Schedule A (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040sa.pdf) (PDF), Itemized Deductions.       
       State and local income taxes withheld from your wages during the          year appear on your  Form W-2 (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw2.pdf) (PDF). You can          elect to deduct state and local general sales taxes instead of state          and local income taxes, but you cannot deduct both. If you elect to          deduct state and local general sales taxes, you can use either your          actual expenses or the optional sales tax tables. Refer to the  Form 1040, Schedule A Instructions (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040sca.pdf) (PDF), for more information          and for the optional sales tax tables. The following amounts are also          deductible:          
 
 
 Any estimated taxes you paid to state or local governments during                the year, and 
 Any prior year's state or local income tax you paid during the                year.   " 
 
 
You list on your Sched. A, in your case, the tax you paid with your MD 2013 Return (prior year's tax you paid if you did it the same way last year, i.e. were retired and paid no estimated taxes.).   That is the only state tax you paid in 2013.  You can't deduct taxes from your Fed tax, that you did not pay to a state in the applicable tax period.
So you can do your Federal tax without any state computation necessary.  Just dig out last year's MD tax form.  That's the total state tax you paid in 2013.
You could also owe a penalty on your MD return, if you owe more than a certain amount.  Check the MD tax regulations.
 AtlantaTaxExpert
Jan 12, 2014, 10:17 AM
SmearCase covers the answer very well; I have nothing to add.
 
Good Job!
 smearcase
Jan 12, 2014, 04:15 PM
Thanks Atlanta.  Just speaking from experience with MD (that's why I moved to PA where qualified retirement plan income is not taxed by the state). 
I'm not trying to become a Deputy Tax Expert-lol.
 tableclocks
Jan 13, 2014, 05:23 PM
I  do  have  a  few  dollars  with held  on  one  check   and  my wife  has  a  lot  with held... but  never  enough on  my  end  for  the  whole   amount  owed... I paid $4,483 in 2013 for the year 2012... your  saying I can use that amount on my 2103 fed tax return ?   Thank  you... richard
 AtlantaTaxExpert
Jan 13, 2014, 05:36 PM
Glad to help!
 smearcase
Jan 13, 2014, 09:58 PM
" I paid $4,483 in 2013 for the year 2012... your  saying I can use that amount on my 2103 fed tax return ? "
 
From the above cited IRS instruction:
The following amounts are also          deductible:          
 
 
 
 Any estimated taxes you paid to state or local governments during                the year, and
 Any prior year's state or local income tax you paid during the                year.
 
 
So, based on the above (prior year's taxes), providing that there are no extenuating circumstances we don't know about, the answer to your question is Yes.
 AtlantaTaxExpert
Jan 14, 2014, 09:09 AM
Virtually ANY local/state taxes physically paid in Calendar Year 2013 can be deducted as an itemized deduction on your 2013 tax return.