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sudha02
Nov 19, 2013, 11:22 AM
Hi,
I have a L1 Visa and came here in April 2012 on a intracompany transfer and my wife and son joined me on December 2012 in L2 Visa. I have to go back to my home country in January-2014. I have the following questions

This Year 2013, I got SSN for my wife and filed my Tax return. When filing tax my kid didn't complete the 90 days of his stay here so couldn't file ITIN for him this year.
For the coming year 2014, I need to file ITIN for my kid.
Please let us know whether I can apply for it now itself or I have to wait till I get my W2 form in Jan-2012. My W2 form will come only in mid or last week of Jan-2014 and I might have to go back to my home country in may be Jan end or feb 1st week.
Hence I thought I would apply for ITIN for son now. Is this okay. If yes, what is the documentation I need to support while filling up the W7 form.
Do I need to submit original documents (like passport ) or a photocopy will suffice?

sudha02
Nov 19, 2013, 11:31 AM
How/when/where to get notarized photocopies for filing ITIN for L1 dependent KID. Since my kid is going to hometown on jan 2014 I need to file ITIN. Incase if he is not present by the time I get my W2 form. I need to get notariszed photocopies. In that case where to get my kids passport and Visa Notorized and from whom? Please suggest me.

sudha02
Nov 19, 2013, 11:36 AM
Where can I find the Notorized company in Aurora,IL for getting my sons passport notorized and to file ITIN

ma0641
Nov 19, 2013, 12:18 PM
Your bank will have a notary.

AtlantaTaxExpert
Nov 19, 2013, 12:34 PM
The IRS no longer accepts notarized photocopies of the passport. You must:

1) Get the color photocopy CERTIFIED as authentic by the Indian government. This can be done by the Indian consulate in either San Francisco, Chicago, Houston or New York, or by the embassy in Washington, D.C. If done in India, the Indian government office that issued the passport must issue the certificate of authentication (NOT an apostille).

2) Mail in the actual passport with the tax return and Form W-7. NOT recommended, as the IRS may lose the passport.

3) Go to a Tax Assistance Center (TAC) which can certify the passport as authentic and accept the Form W-7 and tax return. I would need to know your current location to tell you which TAC to use, as only a select few actually certify passports. You can also go to Internal Revenue Service (http://www.irs.gov) to determine which TACs certify passports.

The last option is the easiest, but may NOT be feasible if you must leave before the IRS starts accepting tax returns, which this year did not start until 21 January 2013.

AtlantaTaxExpert
Nov 19, 2013, 12:35 PM
The IRS no longer accepts notarized photocopies of the passport. You must:

1) Get the color photocopy CERTIFIED as authentic by the Indian government. This can be done by the Indian consulate in either San Francisco, Chicago, Houston or New York, or by the embassy in Washington, D.C. If done in India, the Indian government office that issued the passport must issue the certificate of authentication (NOT an apostille).

2) Mail in the actual passport with the tax return and Form W-7. NOT recommended, as the IRS may lose the passport.

3) Go to a Tax Assistance Center (TAC) which can certify the passport as authentic and accept the Form W-7 and tax return. I would need to know your current location to tell you which TAC to use, as only a select few actually certify passports. You can also go to Internal Revenue Service to determine which TACs certify passports.

The last option is the easiest, but may NOT be feasible if you must leave before the IRS starts accepting tax returns, which this year did not start until 21 January 2013.

AtlantaTaxExpert
Nov 19, 2013, 12:35 PM
The IRS no longer accepts notarized photocopies of the passport. You must:

1) Get the color photocopy CERTIFIED as authentic by the Indian government. This can be done by the Indian consulate in either San Francisco, Chicago, Houston or New York, or by the embassy in Washington, D.C. If done in India, the Indian government office that issued the passport must issue the certificate of authentication (NOT an apostille).

2) Mail in the actual passport with the tax return and Form W-7. NOT recommended, as the IRS may lose the passport.

3) Go to a Tax Assistance Center (TAC) which can certify the passport as authentic and accept the Form W-7 and tax return. I would need to know your current location to tell you which TAC to use, as only a select few actually certify passports. You can also go to Internal Revenue Service to determine which TACs certify passports.

The last option is the easiest, but may NOT be feasible if you must leave before the IRS starts accepting tax returns, which this year did not start until 21 January 2013.

taxesforaliens
Nov 19, 2013, 02:01 PM
ATE is very patient ;-)
You asked the same question three times already and always got a great answer from ATE.

IRS offices in IL are listed here:
Contact My Local Office in Illinois (http://www.irs.gov/uac/Contact-My-Local-Office-in-Illinois)

tickle
Nov 19, 2013, 02:33 PM
The IRS no longer accepts notarized photocopies of the passport. You must:

1) Get the color photocopy CERTIFIED as authentic by the Indian government. This can be done by the Indian consulate in either San Francisco, Chicago, Houston or New York, or by the embassy in Washington, D.C. If done in India, the Indian government office that issued the passport must issue the certificate of authentication (NOT an apostille).

2) Mail in the actual passport with the tax return and Form W-7. NOT recommended, as the IRS may lose the passport.

3) Go to a Tax Assistance Center (TAC) which can certify the passport as authentic and accept the Form W-7 and tax return. I would need to know your current location to tell you which TAC to use, as only a select few actually certify passports. You can also go to Internal Revenue Service to determine which TACs certify passports.

The last option is the easiest, but may NOT be feasible if you must leave before the IRS starts accepting tax returns, which this year did not start until 21 January 2013.

The OP is East Indian; by calling him 'Indian' you indicate native Indian, or Amerind. Please don't do that. It is not proper and confusing.

taxesforaliens
Nov 19, 2013, 09:43 PM
I don't see any problem here. How else would you call someone from India or the Indian government?

AtlantaTaxExpert
Nov 19, 2013, 11:13 PM
Actually, American Indians are correctly called native Americans, but thank you, TaxForAliens, for your defense of my use of India's proper name.

tickle
Nov 20, 2013, 04:02 AM
I don't see any problem here. How else would you call someone from India or the Indian government?

Not a problem. They are normally called EAST Indian on this continent to differentiate between native Indian. Do you not see where the confusion would come from?

taxesforaliens
Nov 20, 2013, 07:27 AM
East India is only a small part of India, so that's not a proper term to call the entire nation.

tickle
Nov 20, 2013, 07:44 AM
East India is only a small part of India, so that's not a proper term to call the entire nation.

Don't split hairs. From our part of the world, they have always been called East Indians. You are talking about being in India and viewing it as east and west.

In Canada, they are called East Indians. They don't mind. They call themselves East Indians. This is why we call there type of food, East Indian cuisine.

AtlantaTaxExpert
Nov 20, 2013, 05:18 PM
Such a distinction is not common as seen in other parts of the world. I am sure Germans differentiate between those who were in West Germany vice those in East Germany prior to the reunification, but the rest of the world call them all Germans.

Similarly, there is some differentiation in the U.S. between those from New York versus those from California versus those from Taxes versus those from the deep South. The rest of the world call us Americans.

tickle
Nov 20, 2013, 05:29 PM
Such a distinction is not common as seen in other parts of the world. I am sure Germans differentiate between those who were in West Germany vice those in East Germany prior to the reunification, but the rest of the world call them all Germans.

Similarly, there is some differentiation in the U.S. between those from New York versus those from California versus those from Taxes versus those from the deep South. The rest of the world call us Americans.

No, the rest of the world know the difference between Canadians and... you, but we are all on the North American continent, as opposed to the South American continent.

Indigenous people on rhe North American continent are ALL called Amerindian, a derivative.