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Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:14 PM
Hello, I have a serious question... I drank about 1 beer starting around 6:30ish, stopped for about an hour or so then had 3 more beers and two classss of wine, so approx 6 drinks over a span from 6:30 to about 11:30 Saturday night, Sunday and Monday I drank plenty of fluids, took a walk, drank Pepsi, and took vitamin b12. I urinated at least 3 times before leaving the house te following Tuesday, drank a large DD coffee, urinated again and then after that urination approx 15 min later I gave my urine for my etg test. So it was about 61 hours that I last drank. What is the chances of me passing the etg test? In not sure what the cut off level is being used. Please help. Also I am a 28 female, about 180 and my metabolism is about average. Tha k you for your help.

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 06:15 PM
You are going to be very close. What do you stand to lose should you fail?

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:20 PM
You are going to be very close. What do you stand to lose should you fail?

I don't lose anything, personal agreement. I am not normally a drinker and I drank that one time in over a year. It was 61 hours and I drank a lot of water Sunday, drank water until 5pm Monday, took a walk and made sure to urinate frequently. I also drank ice tea and Pepsi and also coffee Tuesday morning and was sure to urinate 4 times before my test

Alty
Oct 15, 2013, 06:22 PM
I don't lose anything, personal agreement. I am not normally a drinker and I drank that one time in over a year. It was 61 hours and I drank a lot of water Sunday, drank water until 5pm Monday, took a walk and made sure to urinate frequently. I also drank ice tea and Pepsi and also coffee Tuesday morning and was sure to urinate 4 times before my test

The personal agreement you made included a surprise ETG test? That makes no sense.

So what do you really stand to lose? Why worry if it was just a personal agreement with someone that has the authority to order an ETG test?

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 06:23 PM
It's quite possible that you will fail for dilution alone. 61 hours is right on the cusp, it could really go either way.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:25 PM
The personal agreement you made included a surprise ETG test? That makes no sense.

So what do you really stand to lose? Why worry if it was just a personal agreement with someone that has the authority to order an ETG test?
Bc I keep my promises and it wasn't a surprise, I have a lot going on and was not thinking and I had a couple drinks. I am not asking for judgements to be made I am personally asking for someone to let me know what they think. Thanks.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:28 PM
It's quite possible that you will fail for dilution alone. 61 hours is right on the cusp, it could really go either way.

Ok thank you... I have read many articles on this website and saw many people who drank a lot more then me, over a 2 day period who were heavier then I am and passed after 60 hours And that was more then a few people..

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 06:29 PM
I already told you that you stand to possibly fail for dilution. Also, 61 hours is really too close to call.

Alty
Oct 15, 2013, 06:31 PM
Bc I keep my promises and it wasn't a surprise, I have a lot going on and was not thinking and I had a couple drinks. I am not asking for judgements to be made I am personally asking for someone to let me know what they think. Thanks.

Fine then. Like J9 said, you'll likely fail for dilution, and you're right on the cusp when it comes to failing without dilution. Either way, we can't tell you if you'll fail or pass, there's no way to do that, even with the info you provided.

Having said that, if this is just a personal agreement, who cares? It's not like you'll lose your job or go to jail if you fail. And you yourself said you haven't had a drink in over a year, so why you even made this "personal agreement" is beyond me, unless there's something you're not telling us, which is what I'm betting on.

So pass or fail, based on what you posted, it doesn't really matter. Your "personal agreement" can't affect your life, your job, whether you go to jail. The person you made the agreement with might be mad, but who cares? They can't do anything to you because you had a few drinks once this year.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:31 PM
I already told you that you stand to possibly fail for dilution. Also, 61 hours is really too close to call.

Even with not drinking water after 5pm Monday and my urine still being yellow? I am just curious how this works. A lot of forums I read stated that the "80 hour test" is more for sales then science. I am not trying to beat anything and there are personal issues regarding this that I don't feel the need to share on a website. I wrote what I was concerned about And I appreciate your help.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:35 PM
Fine then. Like J9 said, you'll likely fail for dilution, and you're right on the cusp when it comes to failing without dilution. Either way, we can't tell you if you'll fail or pass, there's no way to do that, even with the info you provided.

Having said that, if this is just a personal agreement, who cares? It's not like you'll lose your job or go to jail if you fail. And you yourself said you haven't had a drink in over a year, so why you even made this "personal agreement" is beyond me, unless there's something you're not telling us, which is what I'm betting on.

So pass or fail, based on what you posted, it doesn't really matter. Your "personal agreement" can't affect your life, your job, whether you go to jail. The person you made the agreement with might be mad, but who cares? They can't do anything to you because you had a few drinks once this year.
I understand your point, however what goes on with my personal agreement is just that. Personal. I do not feel the need to get into why I asked this question or feel the need to display my personal life in a website. I said what my concern is and there is no need to post anymore then that. So thanks for your input.

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 06:37 PM
80 hours for sales rather than science? Hmm, never heard that, it has be accurate, sales or not.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:39 PM
80 hours for sales rather than science? Hmm, never heard that, it has be accurate, sales or not.

Just saying what I read. Said its hard to tell the accuracy and depends on the cutoff. Like I said I am not here to beat any system, it's for a lot of knowledge for some personal things. Thank you! Take care!

Alty
Oct 15, 2013, 06:43 PM
Even with not drinking water after 5pm Monday and my urine still being yellow? I am just curious how this works. A lot of forums I read stated that the "80 hour test" is more for sales then science. I am not trying to beat anything and there are personal issues regarding this that I don't feel the need to share on a website. I wrote what I was concerned about And I appreciate your help.

No one can tell you if you'll pass or fail. The cutoff that most experts agree on is 80 hours. Doesn't matter if your pee was yellow, doesn't matter if you peed many times before your tested.

Some people are lucky, drink 18 hours before a test and pass. Others are unlucky, drink 5 days before a test and fail. We can't tell you which group you'll fall into.

You drank a lot, you had a test before the cut off time that most experts agree on. So you could pass, you could fail. It's up to the results to tell you which one will be your destiny.

But really, who cares? This is because of a personal promise, according to you. So you won't go to jail because you failed, you won't lose your job because you failed.

Here's the real issue you should think about. You made a personal promise not to drink, and you drank. So fail or pass, you still fail on that promise. You told me that the test was because of a promise you made, and you keep your promises. Liar! You drank, and that was the purpose of the promise. So that promise didn't mean anything to you. If it had, you wouldn't have drank.

You're worried that you'll fail and the person you made the promise to, will know you didn't keep your end of the deal.

Be real to yourself. Don't try to mince words here. If a promise means so much to you, why didn't you keep it? Don't try to make me feel bad for questioning you, when you admit you broke the promise you made.

Good luck. I'm out. If you want real help, I'll answer, but right now you're kidding yourself, and I won't be a part of that.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:48 PM
No one can tell you if you'll pass or fail. The cutoff that most experts agree on is 80 hours. Doesn't matter if your pee was yellow, doesn't matter if you peed many times before your tested.

Some people are lucky, drink 18 hours before a test and pass. Others are unlucky, drink 5 days before a test and fail. We can't tell you which group you'll fall into.

You drank a lot, you had a test before the cut off time that most experts agree on. So you could pass, you could fail. It's up to the results to tell you which one will be your destiny.

But really, who cares? This is because of a personal promise, according to you. So you won't go to jail because you failed, you won't lose your job because you failed.

Here's the real issue you should think about. You made a personal promise not to drink, and you drank. So fail or pass, you still fail on that promise. You told me that the test was because of a promise you made, and you keep your promises. Liar! You drank, and that was the purpose of the promise. So that promise didn't mean anything to you. If it had, you wouldn't have drank.

You're worried that you'll fail and the person you made the promise to, will know you didn't keep your end of the deal.

Be real to yourself. Don't try to mince words here. If a promise means so much to you, why didn't you keep it? Don't try to make me feel bad for questioning you, when you admit you broke the promise you made.

Good luck. I'm out. If you want real help, I'll answer, but right now you're kidding yourself, and I won't be a part of that.
Ppl are aloud to make mistakes and that is why I feel Terrible and asking about this. I already came clean with who I needed to tell it to. I just want to know for knowledge and opinions not to be put on blast because I am not putting my whole personal life on a social network. Call me a liar all you want when you don't even know me? Shows your character. I don't air all my business. So whether I am telling you the whole story or not is NOT YOUR CONCERN! This website is used for people who want opinions about something that they need to know. No one else posted there entire business on here. To me, your nosey and like all that drama that that social media causes! Peace out!

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 06:51 PM
80 hours for sales rather than science? Hmm, never heard that, it has be accurate, sales or not.

Yes. You're on the borderline. There is absolutely no way of predicting but in your favor is the fact that EtG testing is overblown. "Up to 80 hours"
Is more akin to marketing than science.

Please let me know.

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 06:54 PM
Ladies, pull the claws back in!

Shay2413, the reason we ask is because we have so many people come here who are purposely trying too fool court ordered tests. Morally, and legally, we cannot help someone to fake a court ordered test.

The cutoff ranges from 60 - 80 hours, with 80 hours being the most reliable. It also depends on what the cutoff is for the particular test being used. Since we do not know which particular test is used in each occasion (this is a global website) we can only guess.

Finally, this is not a social networking site. This is a Q&A board and all members are anonymous.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 07:02 PM
No one can tell you if you'll pass or fail. The cutoff that most experts agree on is 80 hours. Doesn't matter if your pee was yellow, doesn't matter if you peed many times before your tested.

Some people are lucky, drink 18 hours before a test and pass. Others are unlucky, drink 5 days before a test and fail. We can't tell you which group you'll fall into.

You drank a lot, you had a test before the cut off time that most experts agree on. So you could pass, you could fail. It's up to the results to tell you which one will be your destiny.

But really, who cares? This is because of a personal promise, according to you. So you won't go to jail because you failed, you won't lose your job because you failed.

Here's the real issue you should think about. You made a personal promise not to drink, and you drank. So fail or pass, you still fail on that promise. You told me that the test was because of a promise you made, and you keep your promises. Liar! You drank, and that was the purpose of the promise. So that promise didn't mean anything to you. If it had, you wouldn't have drank.

You're worried that you'll fail and the person you made the promise to, will know you didn't keep your end of the deal.

Be real to yourself. Don't try to mince words here. If a promise means so much to you, why didn't you keep it? Don't try to make me feel bad for questioning you, when you admit you broke the promise you made.

Good luck. I'm out. If you want real help, I'll answer, but right now you're kidding yourself, and I won't be a part of that.
And just a thought... If people drink 18 hours and pass and some drink 5 days before (which is over 80 hours) to me that's not luck, if it's soooooooo accurate then NO WAY a person passes after 18 hours, when it says to detect drinking within 80 hours. To me, that's wayyyy inaccurate an too big of a spam to be sooo accurate. You don't do drugs 1 day before a drug screen and pass, that's cut and dry. I have been reading ppls questions and have found more info then what you may be seeing. Maybe read some of them and find out who isn't that educated on these testings. I am logging out and staying out. Lol. Thanks.

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 07:05 PM
Some people pass that early because they know how to cheat the system.

Alty
Oct 15, 2013, 07:05 PM
Ppl are aloud to make mistakes and that is why I feel Terrible and asking about this. I already came clean with who I needed to tell it to. I just want to know for knowledge and opinions not to be put on blast because I am not putting my whole personal life on a social network. Call me a liar all you want when you don't even know me? Shows your character. I don't air all my business. So whether I am telling you the whole story or not is NOT YOUR CONCERN! This website is used for people who want opinions about something that they need to know. No one else posted there entire business on here. To me, your nosey and like all that drama that that social media causes! Peace out!

Actually, if you look back, all my personal life is posted on this site. I don't hide anything. I probably should, but I don't. I'm much too open about my life.

The written word is the worst form of communication, and I have to say, I often come off sounding a lot worse than I intend.

So I'll try very hard to make my thoughts understood. I don't mean to call you a liar. Not at all. If you made a personal agreement to someone that you wouldn't drink, here's my issue with it.

You made that agreement. When I asked why you would honor it by taking an ETG, you said that you always honor your agreements. But you didn't. Pass or fail, it doesn't matter. You agreed not to drink, and you did. So even if you pass the ETG, does that obliterate the fact that you didn't stick by your agreement? If the agreement means so much to you, something you're sticking by, then who cares what the ETG says? You know you shouldn't pass because you broke the agreement.

Pass or fail, you failed, because you drank. So the agreement that you made, the agreement you said you'd honor, you already broke. So who cares if a test says you don't have alcohol in your system. You know you drank. You broke the agreement. So a test means nothing. Nothing at all.

Do you see what I'm saying? I'm really not trying to sound mean, I'm just saying it like I see it.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 07:07 PM
Ladies, pull the claws back in!

Shay2413, the reason we ask is because we have so many people come here who are purposely trying too fool court ordered tests. Morally, and legally, we cannot help someone to fake a court ordered test.

The cutoff ranges from 60 - 80 hours, with 80 hours being the most reliable. It also depends on what the cutoff is for the particular test being used. Since we do not know which particular test is used in each occasion (this is a global website) we can only guess.

Finally, this is not a social networking site. This is a Q&A board and all members are anonymous.

Thank you, and I appreciate your honesty. I am not sure the exact cutoff whether 100 or 500, I simply just asked because of a personal issue with myself and that is awesome that it's private and a lot I read did help, I am just not about stating my entire personal issue that's all and I would expect someone to respect that. You can find out new info to help me without knowing my personal issue. This has nothing about court, it's not even through a court. And just saying this might be for a friend who is terrified and I told her I'd help. Again with nothing being court ordered, I just wanted to know what the chances were, that's all. And I appreciate you being honest with me.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 07:10 PM
Some people pass that early because they know how to cheat the system.

Oh well then yes that makes perfect sense, it's not about cheating a system. I am not into all this drug and alcohol issues so I am not sure what people really do to get by all this. That's all

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 07:11 PM
I understand that Shay, but we have many members who come here who post under false pretense hoping we will tell them how to cheat the system.

Now, as for all of the bickering... That must stop now or this thread will be closed.

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 07:14 PM
Again with nothing being court ordered, I just wanted to know what the chances were

Again, the chance that you, or the friend, fails for dilution is high. It is also high that you, or the friend, may fail altogether depending on the particular test used. All labs throughout the world (again we are global website) use different tests. We cannot say with any certainty one way or the other.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 07:19 PM
Actually, if you look back, all my personal life is posted on this site. I don't hide anything. I probably should, but I don't. I'm much too open about my life.

The written word is the worst form of communication, and I have to say, I often come off sounding a lot worse than I intend.

So I'll try very hard to make my thoughts understood. I don't mean to call you a liar. Not at all. If you made a personal agreement to someone that you wouldn't drink, here's my issue with it.

You made that agreement. When I asked why you would honor it by taking an ETG, you said that you always honor your agreements. But you didn't. Pass or fail, it doesn't matter. You agreed not to drink, and you did. So even if you pass the ETG, does that obliterate the fact that you didn't stick by your agreement? If the agreement means so much to you, something you're sticking by, then who cares what the ETG says? You know you shouldn't pass because you broke the agreement.

Pass or fail, you failed, because you drank. So the agreement that you made, the agreement you said you'd honor, you already broke. So who cares if a test says you don't have alcohol in your system. You know you drank. You broke the agreement. So a test means nothing. Nothing at all.

Do you see what I'm saying? I'm really not trying to sound mean, I'm just saying it like I see it.

Yes I absolutely understand where you are coming from. I took it personally when you said a liar because I am not one. I made a promise and I broke it, I made a mistake. I sat with my best friend who indeed found her husband in bed with her sister! We both had drinks while she sobbed away terrified not knowing what she was going to do (there is a lot more) but since it's private I am OK with saying that. I appreciate you redirecting what you said and I do understand, trust me I am not happy with myself And I know it will take a long time to build that trust again.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 07:23 PM
I understand that Shay, but we have many members who come here who post under false pretense hoping we will tell them how to cheat the system.

Now, as for all of the bickering... That must stop now or this thread will be closed.

I don't want to know how to cheat the system, I am not asking how, it's done and over with, I posted every detail f what happened and I thought I could get an opinion that if it's too close. I understand what you are saying but after alllllll the other posts I read literally all day before deciding to put my issue up, they were replying whether they may or may not pass, directed on how many drinks, size, quantity.. etc. so when I posted that I thought that is what I would get, not about cheating the system. That is all.

Shay2413
Oct 15, 2013, 07:24 PM
Again, the chance that you, or the friend, fails for dilution is high. It is also high that you, or the friend, may fail altogether depending on the particular test used. All labs throughout the world (again we are global website) use different tests. We cannot say with any certainty one way or the other.

And that's all I am looking for, I don't want a yes or no answer because I am aware that you can't do that. I Just wanted an overall of there was a chance or not. I don't need exact.

J_9
Oct 15, 2013, 07:25 PM
I know now that you aren't asking, but the majority of posters here are. This is why I asked you what you stood to lose if you failed.

goldenrule1
Oct 29, 2013, 08:30 AM
Did you pass Shay?