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SasscMe
Mar 28, 2007, 09:44 PM
Hi there.

Please help. The other night I was sitting in my car waiting for a friend of mine to get in. While I was sitting in the parked car, I noticed a policeman a long way back just sitting there. I have a suspended license and was not about to move. At that time my friend was exiting his home and I motioned to him that there was a cap a ways back. My friend has a 3 way search thingy. He didn't see me try to warn him and gets in my car. The police car then pulls up behind me and just sits there. He then drives away up the street and suddenly makes a u-turn and turns on his lights and gets behind me. At this time I tell my friend that I have a small amount of meth on me and paraphanalia. My friend advises me that he has a 3 way search due to being on probation and that they can't search me or my belongings. So when the officer goes back to his vehicle to run my license, I take the paraphanalia and put it in my bra but with the assurance of my friend and utter stupidity, I left the bindle of meth in my cigarette case, in my purse.

So, the policeman comes back, asks us both to step out of the car and searches my friend and me. Finds nothing, however doesn't search my friend's cigarettes or wallet or shoes or anything. SO he asks us to sit on the curb and starts searching my vehicle (not registered to me). At that time I said I was not comfortable with this and asked why he had the right to search my belongings. The police advised me that it was because my friend has a 4 way search, but he only has a 3 way. Needless to say, they find the bindle, read me my rights and ask me if "the stuff" was mine. I said yes. He then asked if I had anything else on me that he should know about and after my hesitation suggested I be honest. I reply I have a pipe in my bra. He thanks me for being honest and tells me that since I was honest, he was going to help me. He was not going to tow my car and didn't. He let my friend go and we start heading away from the local jail and toward the police station. The officer then told me that if I wanted it, he was going to help me with "my fix." Again, I was completely naïve here and I'm thinking he actually cares and wants to help me get sober. So we head to the police station, I'm taken to the back and am informed once again that they were going to help me. So after the arresting officer was done with me, he said another man would be in there in a minute to help me. So I'm anticipating a doctor looking man to come in but instead comes a young plain-closed officer. He's cocky and basically is telling me something I'm not getting, its not getting through. When it finally does, I realize and say aloud "oh my god. you want me to be a rat" And he said basically yes. He needs 3 names that lead to 3 arrests. I said ah, give 3 go free" to which he replied yes.

So after giving names of people he already knew about, I could only come up with 2 others without giving away anyone I cared about. He begins telling me that's not enough and that I would still go to jail. I got angry and said that I had already been here 2 hours, they already received some names but claimed they weren't useful, and that now on top of that I was still going to be arrested and sent to jail? I said that was bull. Then he said he wanted me to purchase drugs with his money. I was like come again? He told me i would have to meet him, be searched and my vehicle search and then within site, make the purchase and return it to him. I explained that I couldn't do that because I couldn't retrieve my vehicle or the 2 big time dealers that lived right where I got arrested would see my car gone and know I struck a deal because a felony arrest such as this would ensure my time would at least be 24 hours. I'm telling this guy that I'm small time. I don't buy hardly ever, I take people to pick stuff up and get kicked down. I don't know anyone at all. So he then tells me that he doesn't have time to pursue this any longer and that I would be given 3-4 weeks to give them info that would lead to 3 arrests. They presented a paper to me with all sorts of conditions such as advising them of address changes, be available for at least 3-4 months to provide statements to a judge after the arrests happen (not in front of the person i snitch on). I also have to call this officer every day to check in and he needs be to buy as stated above once, so that he knows he can trust me. He then had me initial and sign the document, did not provide me with a copy, never "booked" me or charged me with anything and let me go.

Here's the issues and questions:

1) turns out the meth I had was less than a bowl and probably 50/50 cut with msm. What are the requirements and/or loopholes here and what are best/worst case scenarios?

2) They merely detained me, never charged me with anything, never finger printed me, no mug shot, nothing.

3) Since I don't want to be a snitch, I'm considering turning myself in when I can actually be there for 24 hours and not have my very straight boyfriend know I'm in jail. Then when it's my time in court, advising the judge that this freaked me out so bad that it truly made me want to quit, that I wasn't comfortable socializing with drug dealers anymore and therefore, wouldn't be comfortable purchasing. Besides the fact that I would probably be a give away to the dealer I'm setting up since I wouldn't be partaking, like I usually do. Because of all of this I decided to turn myself in and am at the mercy of the court. Anything good there? Assuming I really will be sober, of course.

4) I have since learned that a couple of my friends have been given this same offer but in fact, after turning in and leading to 3 arrests, their drug arrest was in fact on their record even though they were told it wouldn't be.

5) Insinutated they wanted to help me with my problem when it was actually that they wanted me to snitch. (nothing there I'm sure)

6), any other suggestions anyone has as to how I could best handle this without being killed, set up, life screwed forever or be considered a snitch. I have been told that once cops know you snitch, they will seek you out for everything, almost picking on you to get you to give up names. They also told me I could earn money after 3 arrests by working for the cops by snitching all the time. (Yeah right)

Lastly, in my fear and lack of knowledge I did give the cross streets and first name of someone I actually like and is really cool. I'm considering telling him this and that I want to make it right now since I was just scared last night so that he will refrain from buying for a while. I don't want him to get arrested. I know he will hate me but that's OK as long as he's not hit with this and arrested because of me. He's a mellow cool guy but is this stupid? (He's not dangerous).

And I do know several people that are total losers that I could give info about but I don't know well enough to buy from. Do I really have to buy? Because this I won't do since the only one I can buy from is the guy I want to warn that I gave his vicinity and first name.

Please help. I'm so sorry it's so long but I wanted no questions or doubts. I really need some advice. I'm over 35, have a kid and live in calif. Thank you so much.

froggy7
Mar 29, 2007, 05:24 AM
No legal advice, but I strongly urge you to tell your "very straight boyfriend" that you are a druggie. He deserves to be able to get out of this relationship if he doesn't want to deal with someone who does meth. And, quite frankly, I'm shocked that the cops didn't tell CPS about the situation, assuming that you are the custodial parent of your child.

excon
Mar 29, 2007, 07:32 AM
Since I don't want to be a snitchHello Sass:

You already ARE a snitch. You can't un-ring the bell. Of course, you don't have to continue to be one, though. You can tell the cops to stick it any time you want.

If you do, you're not going to win your case! You can't have it both ways. Not only did you snitch on other people, you snitched on yourself.

excon

SasscMe
Mar 29, 2007, 05:57 PM
Hmm.. I'm pretty sure I posted this in the "criminal law" advice section and not the "morale advice" section. I'm quite aware of what I should morally do. Having some stranger on the internet tell me something isn't going to suddenly make me go "oh my god, he's right! Why didn't I see it before?" you know? Did you really think it would?

Now again I ask for legal advice as far as their right to search my personal belongings (purse) under the Fourth Amendment.

Thank you.

shygrneyzs
Mar 29, 2007, 06:18 PM
Yes, they had a right to search - your friend was already on probation and your friend was in the vehicle with you.

EiMaHa
Apr 5, 2007, 11:52 AM
You gave up your 4th amendment rights when you gave the officer probable cause - a very large grey area but being with someone on probation cinched it. If the cops already know the people you named, then they probably knew the guy in the car w/you.

Now, you asked for advice on an open forum so don't get upset when you get it. It's MORAL not morale by the way. You should thank your lucky stars you still have your child and CPS hasn't been involved and get an attorney. This is not the time for free advice.

It's quite likely that your straight boyfriend knows or suspects this is going on. Perhaps he's still around because he sees something in you worth sticking around for. If you tell him he may even support you in this situation. You need help and if you are honest with him... well, hopefully you get the picture. How would you feel in his positition? Betrayed? If you get into a situation where your safety is at risk his will be also. Give him the choice on this one - I'm sure you can get another boyfriend if he's not willing to live like this.

Meth is not a safe recreational drug. You may not buy often but if you partake even occasionally, you probably have a problem if not an addiction. Your defensive response to froggy7 is a hallmark trait with addicts in denial. Meth is highly addictive, physically destructive and can alter you forever. Addiction is a slippery slope but it's not too late. Get help if not for yourself then for your child.