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kinkaito
Sep 8, 2013, 03:31 PM
Hello, Sorry for being stupid in this matter - I've searched around quite a lot, I don't really like to ask questions on forums - unless I really can't find a solution.

My sink has a 2 way drain outlet like the picture - it's exactly the same one as the picture.

I've got my dishwasher connected to one pipe and it fits perfectly no leaks.
However, my washing machine needed an extension pipe. However, I've come across 3 different pipes - I needed to extend my pipe by about 3.2M so on my first attempt I brought a 3.5M pipe... which fit perfect on the drain outlet - however the other end.. was to big to fit on anything... which lead to a leak...

So I went and brought another two.. at 2M (they extend/shrink) they fit perfect. Minus the bit on the picture has a slow leak.

Which leads to my problem...

I've got a hose clip on it.. its pretty tight. But I feel if I go any tighter I will break the plastic pipe, or the clip. A full load wash leaves 200ML or water in a jug I've got under the leak.

Is there anyway to seal that leak safely without getting... another pipe/ assuming they have others. The plummer store that sold me everything, said I've got everything I need. And there shouldn't be a leak. And he has the same conclusion about my first pipe to and recommended the 2nd pipe. But that leak... is problematic

massplumber2008
Sep 8, 2013, 05:27 PM
Hi Kinkaito

Geez, a dishwasher and a washing machine connecting together like that... who told you that was a good idea?

What's going to stop the washing machine water from backing up into the dishwasher? How about the DW water... what stops that from pumping into the washing machine?

Not sure how to advise here, but I am glad to discuss more if you like.

Mark

ThinkSpace
Sep 8, 2013, 05:33 PM
Unfortunately, many small homes and apartments use a singular drain outlet for multiple purposes, (i.e. Dishwasher, Washing Mahine, Sink).

I would recommend the use of Plumber's Putty.

massplumber2008
Sep 8, 2013, 05:45 PM
I take it you aren't a plumber TS? Thanks for the input, but KK will need a lot more than plumber's putty to fix the problems here!


Mark

ThinkSpace
Sep 8, 2013, 06:05 PM
Plumber? No. I am actually a Class B Waste Water Operator. I have seen enough to know that while this setup is not preferred, it does happen quite often. In fact, my first apartment in College had this Same setup. No issues with backups using a 2" standpipe.

kinkaito
Sep 9, 2013, 03:57 AM
@massplumber2008

while it may not be the best type of connection short of drilling a whole though the wall and draining the washing machine directly outside the flat and then getting a long pipe to drain it into the drain, I have no other alternative.

Both my washing machine and dishwasher pipe are "looped" as high up the cabinet as they can go to hopefully prevent any backup of water.

I don't intend on ever using the dishwasher and washing machine at the same time if this makes any difference to any "back ups of water"


what's the "optimal fix" I should be aiming for?



@ThinkSpace
Thank you ^^ I have been looking at some of that on Amazon.co.uk but I wasn't 100% sure if that was meant to be used in this situation ^^ I'll order some of that and put it on the small leak and hopefully that will hold it ^^

massplumber2008
Sep 9, 2013, 04:38 AM
I think I'll let you and TS work it out as both of you are not talking about doing any kind of plumbing I am familiar with... ;)

Seriously, it sounds like you are rigging things and at that point you, TS above there and the local hardware store guy should be able to get you up and running soon enough!

Good luck!

kinkaito
Sep 9, 2013, 04:45 AM
I think I'll let you and TS work it out as both of you are not talking about doing any kind of plumbing I am familiar with...;)

Good luck!

You've never installed a washing machine as a Plumbing Expert? Or did all the homes already come with the already "Correct" connections?

Eh...

Guess I'll go to the Plumbing store here and ask them in person what kind of work I will need for a "Correct connection"... all you told me is "That's wrong"... without saying why...

massplumber2008
Sep 9, 2013, 04:52 AM
I told you what was wrong... washer and dishwasher don't connect onto the same drain line like you have setup... don't care what country you are in or what TS the "waste water" guy says.

Since you have, "no other alternative", go to the hardware store and see what they have to hook you up... shouldn't be too hard for them to get you connected up leak-free.

Good luck!

quitlan
Jan 13, 2015, 06:44 PM
Tape--worked GREAT for me. Mine was about $7 a roll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRpkklLqoKI

Milo Dolezal
Jan 13, 2015, 07:13 PM
They sell a connector specifically designed for that kind of conversion.

( I am with Mark on connecting washing machine and dishwasher into a common drain. However, I realize, that's how they do it in Europe. So be it... )

Hope that helps

Milo

afaroo
Jan 13, 2015, 09:24 PM
Hello every one I did some research and found the following statement,

Way of connecting washing machine and dishwasher wastes is by using an in-line, self sealing waste trap. These little marvels are a tube shape, about 250mm long which fit onto a standard 40mm pipe with a compression fitting. They contain a thin membrane which opens to allow the waste water through but immediately closes again to stop foul air getting back in. This waste is called a HepVO self sealing waste valve. See the image and the link below, Thanks.

John

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