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yozh
Jul 19, 2013, 12:15 PM
Hello,

We had our HVAC system installed by people that are no longer available for comment, yes I did get a bad deal and trying to fix it now.

So basically right now there are 2 Zones from 1 unit. The 1st (main) zone has the stat on it and seems to be working and actually on the 2nd zone a feel a bit of air coming from the vents but it`s very little. The 2nd zone has 3 wires with out the stat connected to it right now. This brings me to my question.

The 3 wires are Red, White and Blue. I tried red and White since there is no Blue terminal and I get nothing... The stat does not power on(nothing on the screen no power at all). I also tried with a battery Stat, but it does bring more air in. Not sure what else do to. If anyone can help it would be great !

Joshdta
Jul 19, 2013, 03:37 PM
Open the damper manually

yozh
Jul 19, 2013, 03:44 PM
I would like to use a thermostat there, that's the whole point... I`m just not understanding how to connect it to make it work...

Joshdta
Jul 19, 2013, 03:56 PM
If it is a 3 wire it must have a common wire then a power open and a power close. How is the one for down stairs wired??

yozh
Jul 19, 2013, 04:07 PM
I have to take a look. But there are at least 5 wires down stairs. I think the white wire is common does that make sense ? Based on my reading the Red should be power ? I have few different stats I can try most are honeywell... Should I take a look at the Damper how its wired ? Would Blue usually go to Y ? This is bad I wish they would have finished the job at least up to this point... They were also supposed to install a fresh air exchange which I have no idea what it looks like or what to look for...

ma0641
Jul 19, 2013, 05:19 PM
Some dampers are normally open, some normally closed. If you have no voltage you need to see if the control board is sending a signal. Since 1 is working, I would guess you have a wire disconnect. Some dampers only need a 2 wire, the power opens the damper and a spring closes or vice versa.

yozh
Jul 19, 2013, 05:27 PM
But I might be putting in the wrong lead ? Are you saying the damper doesn't have power ?

What I think I need to understand where does the second stat gets power from? Is it the dampers transformer ? I guess I have to go up to the attic and see where where are the wires coming from...

The issue is I`m not even living in the house now and trying to get in here... If we have to move now its so hot its just crazy...

Joshdta
Jul 19, 2013, 06:36 PM
The t-stat goes to a main control board not the damper. Is the main control even wired for 2 dampers? take of cover and see how many sets of wires are in there.

Joshdta
Jul 19, 2013, 06:39 PM
do you have 3 dampers? You should have a zone 1 damper, a zone 2 damper. And a bypass damper from the supply to the return in the basement. A fresh air intake should be a box about 2x2 with 3 ducts going into it. Or it could be just a small pipe taken to the outside if it was done the cheep way

yozh
Jul 19, 2013, 06:41 PM
So is the unit that flips the damper ? Why is the T-Stat only has 3 wires (second t-stat for subzone) ?

Joshdta
Jul 19, 2013, 06:49 PM
What brand damper system is it?

yozh
Jul 19, 2013, 06:50 PM
do you have 3 dampers? You should have a zone 1 damper, a zone 2 damper. and a bypass damper from the supply to the return in the basement. a fresh air intake should be a box about 2x2 with 3 ducts going into it. Or it could be just a small pipe taken to the outside if it was done the cheep way

I`ll check in the attic. What I saw in the basement is a big intake that is sucking the air from outside in which is joined by the return ducts in the back of the unit.

This is for my other zone. So I guess to make it clear I have 3 zones. 2 Units.

1st Zone is for first floor and basement, all separate units. T-Stat works, cold air seems to be good. I did not test the forced hot air yet.

2nd Zone is the second floor separate units in the attic T-Stat works

3rd Zone is shared from the second zone from the attic and is 3rd floor. No T-Stat installed just 3 wires Blue, Red and White


All zones were supposed to have fresh air exchange.

yozh
Jul 19, 2013, 06:52 PM
what brand damper system is it??

I have to climb in the attic and check. I guess I`ll get all this info tomorrow. As I said we could not move in yet. So I have to go by the house and write all this info down, trace the wires etc...

yozh
Jul 21, 2013, 08:06 PM
I checked today could not find the actual damper, what is it supposed to look like ? I think after playing with the leads with battery powered t-stat I think the air is moving better now, but still no control from the 3rd zone t-stat. I guess I have to bite the bullet and call new repair men and hope that warranty will stay on the units when and/if this guys are able to fix it.

yozh
Jul 25, 2013, 06:58 AM
So today I looked and I see the 3rd zone wires are NOT connected. So does that mean a damper is not installed ? Also found another HUGE issue. There is a water build up, and I mean a lot of water in the duck insulation where the duct starts from the unit... It was so much water that I have to redo the sealing below. And I don't understand where the water is coming from condensation ?

Joshdta
Jul 25, 2013, 09:11 AM
Could be, or if dampers not working, or no bypass damper was installed unit may be freezing up

yozh
Jul 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
Seems only on that space right when the duct starts... I don't think I can get away with out calling people in... Thanks for the help guys...