View Full Version : The answer to illegal immigrants
paraclete
Jul 19, 2013, 12:02 AM
I knew if we thought about it long enough we would come up with an answer.
Here is the latest piece of Krudd;
No asylum seeker who travels by boat will be resettled in Australia, they will be resettled in the tropical paradise of Papua New Guinea.
This must be the most fantastic idea Krudd has come up with, it eclipses Julia's Mayalasian solution, we can just ship these people off, wait for it, not back where they came from, but to an under developed nation, less developed than the place they came from. A nation where law and order is a serious issue and I cannot imagine what they will do with these ethnically incompatible new arrivals, after all they are one generation from being head hunters. These people have difficulty speaking english I wonder how they will speak pigeon I think long pig will be on the menu
Here's your dinner invitation we are having long pig belonum you
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/kevin-rudd-to-send-asylum-seekers-who-arrive-by-boat-to-papua-new-guinea-20130719-2q9fa.html
paraclete
Jul 19, 2013, 01:05 AM
I see this solution as being very helpful to our american or UK friends
The americans can ship theirr illegal immigrants to Belize or Haiti, the UK can ship theirs to the Falkland Islands
paraclete
Jul 19, 2013, 04:04 AM
Riot on Nauru in wake of Rudd PNG asylum boat solution | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/national-news/riot-on-nauru-in-wake-of-rudd-png-asylum-boat-solution/story-fncynjr2-1226681915951)
The Iranians are rioting can't quite grasp whether it is that Indonesia will restrict their entry or they face the PNG solution either way they will not get to Australia and behind all this is a repressive Muslim regime, which one; Iran or Indonesia?
speechlesstx
Jul 19, 2013, 07:31 AM
Interesting, this Pacific Solution. I can only imagine the outcry (from you) if the U.S. shipped off immigrants to a third country for detention or resettlement.
paraclete
Jul 19, 2013, 04:25 PM
Hey I don't think this is a good idea, (didn't I have the sarcasm font up) this is the worst kind of policy on the run and classic Krudd, he actually has the backing of the PNG government, what are they thinking? Nice crisp aussie dollars? Perhaps they want to raise the IQ of their improverished nation.
What is bad here is not that he has a plan for resettlement of refugees, but he hasn't consulted the refugees. This will become known as the PNG gulag, I don't doubt part of the plan is "if you don't like it go home" option. He has actually announced that the plan may not work to break the people smugglers business model and stop the boats. This is the sort of paternalistic Krudd we have come to expect from the Labor Party who gave us the recession we just had to have, The home insulation debacle, the school halls debacle, the carbon tax and the mining tax that doesn't raise any revenue
paraclete
Jul 22, 2013, 05:47 PM
Well the protesters are doing what protesters do, peacefully protesting
Don't let political opportunism hide an idea that may work (http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/dont-let-political-opportunism-hide-an-idea-that-may-work-20130722-2qewr.html)
And the politicians are smiling, The solution has racked up three boatloads of people so far who will not be resettled in Australia. The idea hasn't worked because it takes a while for the newspaper ads in various languages to reach the asylum seekers from Sydney. Some idiot (read bureaucrat or Labor Party stallwart) actually thinks putting ads in newspapers in Sydney will actually send a meesage to people in Indonesia, Iran, Pakistan, India, Mayalasia, Syria, Iraq anf various sundry other places of embarkation
paraclete
Jul 22, 2013, 09:15 PM
http://www.immi.gov.au/visas/humanitarian/novisa/pressad.pdf
paraclete
Jul 25, 2013, 08:20 PM
The UN now thinks this solution is illegal, contrary to international law. Our idea is their laws are contrary to our laws. No one can compel us to take refugees. Our legal intake is already the third highest in the world.Their laws should change so that anyone acting contrary to the laws of a host nation should lose their refugee status and be subject to immediate deportation
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-26/unhcr-australia-png-refugees-asylum/4845628
paraclete
Aug 3, 2013, 06:18 PM
Yes this is the answer to illegal immigrants, 22 boats since the announcement, the flow has certainly stopped. I think krudd has failed to realise even PNG is better than where these people came from so an offer of resettlement anywhere is an attraction
paraclete
Aug 9, 2013, 12:26 AM
The latest on this is that the government ads in local newspapers are considered a contravention of the refugee convention protection conventions and the Labor Party may have to pay for them as political advertisements. That's what you get when you play to the crowd and allow the Krudd to run free
tomder55
Aug 9, 2013, 02:12 AM
All treaties ,whether negotiated nation to nation , in blocks of nations ,or even in international agreements ,need to be periodically reviewed to see if they are still in the national interest. If they are not ,then they either need to be renegotiated or dropped.
paraclete
Aug 9, 2013, 05:37 AM
Well that might be the next step for us, unlike yourselves we are tired of being a dumping ground for other peoples problems
paraclete
Aug 18, 2013, 03:12 AM
I expect we haven't found the answer yet
Asylum seeker boat intercepted with 205 on board (http://www.smh.com.au/national/asylum-seeker-boat-intercepted-with-205-on-board-20130818-2s4pt.html)
paraclete
Aug 31, 2013, 03:29 AM
One more nail in the coffin
Coalition denies asylum seekers government help to navigate migration process (http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/coalition-denies-asylum-seekers-government-help-to-navigate-migration-process-20130831-2sx13.html)
What I don't understand is why have we been helping them flout our laws?