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bullski_69
May 26, 2013, 01:15 PM
This is a long and difficult one so please bare with me. And please no non constructive messages I already know I'm a prick. So anyway:

I'm from a small town in the UK where nobody does anything or goes anywhere. It's the pits and I can't live there again.

Myself I'm 25, male, bla bla. I moved to Hong Kong to live about 2 years and fell in love with the place, found teaching work etc . Went back home for various reason last summer and just returned in January again. Now, here's where it gets tricky:

I met a girl here last year whom I became very close with, we had a brief sexual relationship but I never felt more. She fell in love with me and I for some reason played along just to keep her happy, she even came to visit me in my home town last year. I had to get away from my hometown so planned to come back to HK in Jan this year. This girls lets call her Wing said I could stay at her family home with her. I thought that's cool I can stay there until I get my **** together then move out and try not to upset her in the process. It's not almost June and I'm still there.

When I get here I could see it was not a friendship stay, this girls loves me and treats me as her boyfriend which I find very uncomfortable but play along as in living in her house. I haven't been able to find much work this time around and am really struggling to get enough money to live on never mind move out etc.

To make things worse I've met the most amazing girl. I've fallen madly in love with a local girl who I met through a friend, we have been together for a couple of months now and are in love with each other. She is the most perfect thing I've ever met and I can't imagine my life without her. Problem is she doesn't know I'm staying with this girl and the girl I'm staying with doesn't know I have this girlfriend.

Here's where the problem lies.I hate balancing this but I really don't have a choice. The simple answer is find more work and move out then I can really relax and be with her but its just not that simple at the moment. I feel terrible for 'Wing' as she treats me so well, we even sleep on bunk beds as HK flats are not the biggest, in the same room! She works long hours etc so only see her at night, most night I stay out with my girlfriend and have to think of a lie of why I'm staying at my friends etc to appease Wing. I HATE it!

I know it sounds selfish and horrible but I feel at the same time I deserve to be happy with this amazing woman that I've found. Moving in with her is not an option as she's only a student and lives with her parents.

So what do I do? I can't face going back to the UK and losing this girl, not even for a short while, I can't continue to live with this other girl as its not fair to either of us, and I hate living a lie with each of them. HELP?! I really can't sleep with the stress? Hope somebody can guide me! Too ashamed to even talk to my friends about it. Thanks a lot guys!

JudyKayTee
May 26, 2013, 01:22 PM
Someone very recently posted (and I'll let her sign on and take credit for her amazing post) that people who post along these lines - "And please no non constructed messages I already know I'm a prick" are looking for ratification, confirmation, an argument, anything but the truth. Or else they are trolls.

Your choices are to hurt the girl you are living with either now or later.

If you were in the girl's position, what would you prefer? As far as the "amazing" person is concerned - she knows you're in some short of relationship (including a live-in) with another female and she's okay having a relationship with you? I find that rather amazing for all the wrong reasons.

If your fear is if the "amazing person" is more than x miles away from you that you will lose her I question the relationship. I also question why all the options involve you living with someone. Can't you find your way in life alone?

And what does "non constructed" mean? Without construction? What?

You've already said you're a prick. You have a posted history of being a prick - "In sept 2010 I went on holiday to Italy with a friend for 3 weeks, I had a girlfriend back home at the time. Within a few days I had met a local girl and she came back to my hotel n we spent the night having sex." Blah, blah, blah. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/cant-stop-cheating-girls-help-638713.html

You disrespect and use women.

Now the question is just how long you intend to be a prick.

Your user name is accurate - the "bull" part. I have no idea about the "6*9" part.

JudyKayTee
May 26, 2013, 02:23 PM
EDIT: Can't get back into my post but you have had a variety of problems involving women and the way you treat them. Is "Wing" the same woman you posted about before? You were living in that woman's apartment, not in her parents' apartment.

I see a variety of problems in your life, all involving women - “Around March this year I had just gone through a messy break up with a girl” (which led to an assault) https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/personal-growth/bitter-cant-let-drop-603416.html; “I decided to move to Hong Kong to teach english. I had been there this time last year and met a chick one night, said id stay in touch and we did. After months of talking on skype I came back to hong kong and moved into a flat with her. As soon as I arrived I realised it was a huge mistake. This girl thought I was going to marry her, as if we were in a serious relationship.” https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/emotional-wellbeing/stuck-foreign-land-should-stay-should-go-601969.html

talaniman
May 26, 2013, 05:45 PM
Your problem is a lack of honesty and no empathy to the ones who get caught in your selfish way.

The solution is VERY simple, start being honest with those people you have lied to, cheated, and accept the consequences of your ways, actions, and words. Unless you rather just be a miserable prick lying and mooching off females to get by.

That's as constructive as I can be.

Alty
May 26, 2013, 07:56 PM
There's a very simply way to stop feeling guilty, it's called honesty. The truth shall set you free. Of course that's what you're worried about, Wing will kick you out, and the girlfriend you actually care about will likely want nothing more to do with you. But hey, you made your bed, now lie in it.

The girl you claim to love, well, you don't. Love requires honesty, and you've been nothing but dishonest to both the girls you're using. So stop kidding yourself that this is love, it really isn't. I'd bet that the only person you really love is yourself.

bullski_69
May 27, 2013, 01:00 AM
Wow, I seem to have put across a bad impression. I was hoping for useful answers rather than you simply attacking me, but thanks nonetheless. talaniman, your post was useful. Thanks for your time people

joypulv
May 27, 2013, 01:39 AM
"I hate balancing this but I really don't have a choice."
Oh yes you have countless choices.
"The simple answer is find more work"
Yes, that would be one answer. Do it or get out of this mess. You can't have life both ways. I have a feeling you spend more time meeting girls and this one in particular.
"and have to think of a lie"
No you don't have to think of a lie. No one is holding a gun to your head.
"I HATE it!"
Why? You created it.
"I know it sounds selfish and horrible but I feel at the same time I deserve to be happy"
No one deserves anything they didn't work for with honesty and integrity.

When do you plan to grow up and realize that adults have to take responsibility for their actions?
Neither of these women 'deserves' what you are dishing out just because you think you 'deserve' to be happy.

talaniman
May 27, 2013, 06:49 AM
Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to joypulv again

Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JudyKayTee again

What advice did you honestly expect?

Jake2008
May 27, 2013, 07:51 AM
Maybe instead of looking for answers, or in addition to, you might start figuring out why you end up in this position over and over.

It confuses me that you can state so well what you are doing wrong, and have done wrong, and continue to do wrong, but balance that self observation with doing nothing constructive to change your situation.

If you manage to dig yourself out of this hole you are in, be grateful for the insight you get here, and accept that comments in posts are not meant to attack you as you said, but to give you a reality check, which I presume your friends would do likewise, if they were aware of how you mess up so badly.

There has to be a bigger reason why, despite knowing the opposite, you allow judgment, common sense, and decency toward women, to be buried. To use women in this way is more a sign of something that needs to be sorted out- consider counselling.

In the meanwhile, a grown man in this position, should be able to find a way to rent a room, get a job to pay for it, and plan a future, on his own. Why you need to involve women to provide you with an easy way out of being independent, is not healthy, for all concerned.

JudyKayTee
May 27, 2013, 08:22 AM
"Wow, I seem to have put across a bad impression. I was hoping for useful answers rather than you simply attacking me, but thanks nonetheless. talaniman, your post was useful. Thanks for your time people"

You yourself said you are a prick - that wouldn't have been choice of words but you said it.

Now you are unhappy because other people agree with you?

Your past history as posted described who/what you are. No one here knows you or met you with any type of preconceived opinion.

I am simply grateful you are not in US and my stepdaughts are not exposed to you.

Alty
May 27, 2013, 03:09 PM
Wow, I seem to have put across a bad impression. I was hoping for useful answers rather than you simply attacking me, but thanks nonetheless. talaniman, your post was useful. Thanks for your time people

What sort of answers did you expect, were you hoping we'd come up with a way for you to continue having a relationship with this new girl, while lying to Wing who is giving you a place to live and believes you care about her? Or did you just expect someone to say "hey man, don't feel guilty, b*itches be h*es" or some such nonsense?

Really, I'd like to know what kind of advice you were looking for other than coming clean with these two girls, being honest. Every heard of telling the truth? It's a very interesting concept, many people believe in it, you should give it a try.