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rcharles12
Apr 19, 2013, 03:40 PM
Can you run a power strip along a window seal.with a metal frame in a commercial building

Stumpjumper123
Apr 19, 2013, 04:53 PM
Well kind of, you can if it is self contained (it only has a power cord to hook up), if is an employable model meaning you need to establish a ground for the strip this could get complicated, since window generally are not an established ground, they could be if they auto shade but most people don't have these. You could muddle a ground to it off one of your outlets, but that is not good advise. If your power strip is not self contained find an electric guy to do the job.

rcharles12
Apr 19, 2013, 05:36 PM
Well the power cord is multiplug surge protector, it has 6 outlets to run a computer an printers, I know some what Texas code the window must be grounded to run any type of 110 or 220

stanfortyman
Apr 19, 2013, 05:38 PM
I know some what Texas code the window must be grounded to run any type of 110 or 220HUH?? Is the wiring attached to the window?

I know many inspectors hate power strips in commercial settings. Do you have regular safety inspections?

Stumpjumper123
Apr 19, 2013, 05:53 PM
A surge protector or a power strip?
A surge protector can be placed anywhere... well almost they don't do well in water but otherwise they are fine.
A power strip is something totally different!
Texas code is the gold standard you should have no metal exterior parts ungrounded and your windows should be grounded.
(Texas takes a soil sample around the 54"stave for urea and ammonia) just an inside joke for those that know how this works)

rcharles12
Apr 19, 2013, 05:54 PM
No I have the cord running on the floor along the bottom window seal, my boss says he wants the cord in panduit or a two tape with a eye holder deal

I know many inspectors hate power strips in commercial settings. Do you have regular safety inspections?[/QUOTE]

rcharles12
Apr 19, 2013, 05:56 PM
It's a surge protector
A surge protector can be placed anywhere... well almost they don't do well in water but otherwise they are fine.
A power strip is something totally different!
Texas code is the gold standard you should have no metal exterior parts ungrounded and your windows should be grounded.
(Texas takes a soil sample around the 54"stave for urea and ammonia) just an inside joke for those that know how this works)[/QUOTE]

rcharles12
Apr 19, 2013, 05:57 PM
It's a surge protector I believe

Stumpjumper123
Apr 19, 2013, 06:10 PM
If the boss wants it in panduit just do it super simple cover. Cover the cord and staple it down and use some construction adhesive for the ends (Not to tight as you will have to replace the china junk at some point and the panduit will have to come off to do it)

rcharles12
Apr 19, 2013, 06:13 PM
Thanks every one fire Marshall coming back to inspect an don't want get popped for anything else

stanfortyman
Apr 19, 2013, 06:23 PM
You cannot staple, secure or cover a cord in any way. Especially in a commercial setting.

stanfortyman
Apr 20, 2013, 04:47 AM
Thanks for the link in the negative comment left for me. Why not post it here so folks will know what you are suggestion. Panduit Pan-Way Surface Raceways for Commercial and Residential Environments (http://www.cableorganizer.com/panduit/surface-raceways.html)

Next, get a clue about what you are talking about. Most of what you linked is a raceway system that is used for conductors and cables, not cords. There is a difference.
None of those are rated or legal to hide or protect temporary cords. The NEC is your authority here, not the company. Also, a plastic covering is not osha approved for protection.

I may have been a bit extreme by saying they cannot be covered in any way, but basically flexible cord cannot be attached to the structure in any way.

This is your guideline:

400.8 Uses Not Permitted.

Unless specifically permitted in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the following:

(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure

(2) Where run through holes in walls, structural ceilings, suspended ceilings, dropped ceilings, or floors

(3) Where run through doorways, windows, or similar openings

(4) Where attached to building surfaces

Exception to (4): Flexible cord and cable shall be permitted to be attached to building surfaces in accordance with the provisions of 368.56(B) (Does not apply here in the least BTW)

(5) Where concealed by walls, floors, or ceilings or located above suspended or dropped ceilings

(6) Where installed in raceways, except as otherwise permitted in this Code See related ROP ROC

(7) Where subject to physical damage

rcharles12
Apr 20, 2013, 05:09 AM
Sir I didn't say any thing negative just looking for the right advise, been doing maint for over 20 years, when asked to run 110 volts in panduit an attach it to window
Coomon sense said that was not good, I suggested a power pole from the ceiling down my boss is a complete idiot an said no
Unless specifically permitted in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the following:

(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure

(2) Where run through holes in walls, structural ceilings, suspended ceilings, dropped ceilings, or floors

(3) Where run through doorways, windows, or similar openings

(4) Where attached to building surfaces

Exception to (4): Flexible cord and cable shall be permitted to be attached to building surfaces in accordance with the provisions of 368.56(B) (Does not apply here in the least BTW)

(5) Where concealed by walls, floors, or ceilings or located above suspended or dropped ceilings

(6) Where installed in raceways, except as otherwise permitted in this Code See related ROP ROC

(7) Where subject to physical damage[/I][/QUOTE]

stanfortyman
Apr 20, 2013, 05:18 AM
I was just posting generally. It was directed at the person who left me negative feedback, not that it matters. They left that link saying it was osha approved.

If that person would like to comment to explain...

Stumpjumper123
Apr 20, 2013, 12:50 PM
I was just posting generally. It was directed at the person who left me negative feedback, not that it matters. They left that link saying it was osha approved.

If that person would like to comment to explain.....

Whoa there big fella, Sorry, excuse my etiquette ignorance I think I fixed it.