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tomder55
Apr 11, 2013, 05:28 AM
Got to admit . Emperor 0's jui jitsu move of proposing Chained CPI for determining Social Security payments has had the desired effects .

What do I mean ? WEll you see ;he has no desire for this to make it into law. Instead ,he fired up the left wing of his party ,which is now completely outraged at the idea . Meanwhile he goes to the stump and claims that he is negotiating in good faith ;putting in a provision in his budget that he really doesn't really want in it ;and can even make the claim that he is trying to reform an entitlement plan.

Listen to commie Senator Bernie Sanders . He screamed on the Senate floor :"When Barack Obama was running for president in 2008, he said that he would not cut Social Security. We want the president to remember what he said and not go back on his word!"
Believe me ; 0 has not forgotten his promise .He has no intention of signing a budget that tinkers with the formula for inflation adjustment . When you strip away all the bs ;his budget is still nothing but spending and tax increases.

Let's face facts... any budget that doesn't address entitlement reform is not a legitimate budget to be taken seriously . By throwing this bone ;0 gets a degree of legitimacy ;and can seduce the beltway Repubics into thinking that he is serious about negotiating . It's Clintoonian triangulation as an opening bid that will eventually be removed from the final bill.

ebaines
Apr 11, 2013, 08:33 AM
It's Clintoonian triangulation as an opening bid that will eventually be removed from the final bill

There won't be a final budget bill. It's highly unlikly that any budget bill will ever be passed (there hasn't been one since W left office), and instead we'll be back with those awful continuiung resolution debacles.

Yeah, the SS CPI recast is a canard, one that O can offer without fear of it ever being implemented.

paraclete
Apr 11, 2013, 10:11 PM
Well that means everything is under control, no new spending?

tomder55
Apr 12, 2013, 03:44 AM
Of course not ;there is plenty of new spending in his budget. ebaines is right... it will not get passed . But 0 knew that when he submitted it. This is just a transparently cynical attempt to have an appearance of 'reaching out' to the Repubics. The sad part is that the Republic leadership is gullible enough to fall for it.

talaniman
Apr 12, 2013, 05:57 AM
There won't be a final budget bill. It's highly unlikly that any budget bill will ever be passed (there hasn't been one since W left office), and instead we'll be back with those awful continuiung resolution debacles.

Yeah, the SS CPI recast is a canard, one that O can offer without fear of it ever being implemented.

W had the luxury of not budgeting for two wars for 8 years. No energy policy, No budgets for no child left behind or Medicare part D. He had plenty of continuing resolutions during those 8 years.

tomder55
Apr 12, 2013, 06:22 AM
Bush submitted budgets every year.. and only once was he late .His budgets were passed... even in 2008 when the Dems held the majority in both houses. . The continuing resolutions were indeed for the war.. How can you realistically budget for war?

paraclete
Apr 12, 2013, 03:23 PM
. The continuing resolutions were indeed for the war.. How can you realistically budget for war ? .

By not going to war, or by waging a limited conflict as you are doing in Afghanistan. I expect your military, or your administration for that matter, has never heard of zero based budgetting. Under such a regime continuation is not practical