A local bakery celebrated its one year anniversary on Saturday. Om that day, every 4th customer received a free cookie. Every 6th customer received a free muffin. On that day, the bakery gave away a total of 29 free cookies. What was the total number of free muffins the bakery gave away on that day? Show or explain your answer.

How about you show or explain your answer and someone will tell you if you're right...

My math teacher told me to always start by drawing a picture.

If I knew I wouldn't have asked. I am trying to help my son with his homework and I can't seem to figure it out... I was going to do 6 multiple 7 which is equal 30... but I know that's wrong... Math is not my strong suit...

If i knew I wouldnt have asked. I am trying to help my son with his homework and i can't seem to figure it out... I was going to do 6 multiple 7 which is equal 30... but i know thats wrong.... Math is not my strong suit...
Draw a picture.

/ = customers
circle / to show cookie.
Put a square around / to show muffin.

/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / etc. Circle every 4th one until you have made 29 circles. Then do the square around the muffin customers.

6 x 7 does not = 30 ;)

Lol sorry... I'm sorry... its equal 42... lol wow

Wondergirl, I am confused... I don't know what u are asking me to do.. Can someone please help..?

So wondergirl , is it 4customers received muffins? But that's equal 24...

so wondergirl , is it 4customers received muffins? but thats equal 24...

You said every 4th customer received a cookie. You also said every 6th customer received a muffin. For instance, if there were 12 customers, 2 muffins were given out and 3 cookies were given out, right?

yess... You are right...

4*7 = 28
6*4 = 24

am I right? 6 goes into 29 , 4x...

I apologize. I just figured you were the typical kid that posts their homework and waits for one of us to answer... which is against the rules anyway.

To be honest, I don't know the correct way that this is done. I can come up with an answer but probably not the way the school wants to see it. This is the problem with my daughter and her homework. I can get the answer but with the "new" math, my methods are wrong.

You need to do multiples of 4 and 6... Of course the question doesn't make it clear whether the 12 customer would get a cookie, a muffin, or both... and so on for every number that both 4 and 6 go into.

6 goes into 29. 4x. But you have a remainder.

yess... You are right...

4*7 = 28
6*4 = 24

am i right? 6 goes into 29 , 4x....
It's not 29 customers. It is 29 cookies given away to every 4th customer. That's a lot of customers.

so its 4th customer multiple by 29cookies = 116

116 divide 6 = 19.3

is it 19?

so its 4th customer multiple by 29cookies = 116

116 divide 6 = 19.3

is it 19?
How do you know there weren't 118 customers? Or 120?

Lol you are confusing me Wondergirl!! Lol is it 19?

lol you are confusing me Wondergirl!!! lol is it 19?
Answer my two questions.

Because 4 multiple by 29 is 116 so its not 118 or 120...

because 4 multiple by 29 is 116 so its not 118 or 120...
But that doesn't mean116 was the total number of customers.

Why can't the total be 120?

Is this the exact wording? If so, you have a problem every time you have a number that is a multiple of 4&6. For instance, is the 12th customer going to receive a cookie and a muffin?

How can it be 120 when it said they gave away 29 cookies... they didn't say they gave away 30 cookies... if the question said 30 cookies. Then it will be 120 cookies... but it said 29...

How can it be 120 when it said they gave away 29 cookies... they didnt say they gave away 30 cookies... if the question said 30 cookies. then it will be 120 cookies... but it said 29...

Here's how I see it... the 29th cookie went to the 116th customer if you write out the multiples of 4: 4,8,12,16, 20, etc. The next issue is where do you stop? Multiples of 6 would end at 114 or 120. So, that's when you have to figure out where the line ended.

How can it be 120 when it said they gave away 29 cookies... they didnt say they gave away 30 cookies... if the question said 30 cookies. then it will be 120 cookies... but it said 29...
Exactly!!

Do you have to show this in an algebraic form?

So how many customers and how many muffins?

Wondergirl, its 19... I don't know how to do it in algebraic form...

Is algebra required? I think you have enough to answer the question in the problem.

O OK.. thank you I love you wondergirl.

I feel your pain. My daughter is also in the fifth grade, and most of the problems she comes home with, make no sense. My husband, who is actually very good at math, wrote a note to the teacher which said "As soon as you send homework that makes sense, and is precise, I'll help. But until then, you won't get an answer to impossible questions".

Me, I have just realized that when it comes to math, I am not smart than a fifth grader.

Wish I could help, just wanted you to know that I feel your pain.

O ok.. thank you I love you wondergirl.
Do you understand what teacherjenn and I have been posting all along?

I know... Most of their homeworks just doesn't make sense... I love to help but its just bad when I can't even help... Wondergirl helped me a lot... Thank you... Thank you all...

I know... Most of their homeworks just doesn't make sense... I love to help but its just bad when I can't even help... Wondergirl helped me a lot... Thank you ... Thank you all...
Remember -- for word problems, always draw a picture first.

I know... Most of their homeworks just doesn't make sense... I love to help but its just bad when I can't even help... Wondergirl helped me a lot... Thank you ... Thank you all...

Well, whenever you need help again, come on back, WG will be here. Me, I can't help you with math, I have issues of my own in that department. ;)

But seriously, stick around, maybe you can help someone else with a problem. We're more than just homework and math crap. :)

homework and math crap. :)
Wash your mouth out, Little Lady!!

Hahaha.. I will be back on here tomorrow... I will be on here on the daily basis so I can help out too...

Hahaha.. I will be be back on here tomorrow... I will be on here on the daily basis so I can help out too...

I'll be around, too. I'm a west coast teacher, so I may not always be on early. I've taught these grades: k, 3,4,5,6 and high school. Ask away and we will help!