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Blinking
Mar 7, 2013, 11:43 AM
I am married for 7years now and there is not a day my husband had ask me for sex, I do the asking always. He wouldn't sleep in the same bed with me rather sleep on the coach this doesn't makes me feel happy and I've discuss this things with him that he should start coming closer for sex at least . However, he didn't change his attitude and I have feelings for sex most of the time so I decided to masturbate by looking pornography but I am worried if this is a sin or not. As a Christian this worries me a lot to sin before my Lord and with my body even in marriage. Please I need your advice and courage I am only 34 yrs and my husband is 55yrs what is best for me?

tickle
Mar 7, 2013, 12:19 PM
Most women, with a normal sex drives, masturbate. It is not a sin, as far as I know. Your husband is unusual if he acts like this. Your husband at 55 may be have some health issues, low libido. Would he agree to a doctors visit rule out these issues and take advice?

dwashbur
Mar 7, 2013, 12:29 PM
What Tickle said. Masturbation itself is not a sin, for either men or women. The question is what's in your heart and mind when you do. If it's simple release, no problem. If you're actively fantasizing about the guy on the screen, then it could get to be a problem. But I totally agree: your husband needs to see a doctor. Immediately if not sooner. There's something majorly wrong there, and it sounds like a physiological illness of some kind.

Blinking
Mar 7, 2013, 01:07 PM
Most women, with a normal sex drives, masturbate. It is not a sin, as far as I know. Your husband is unusual if he acts like this. Your husband at 55 may be have some health issues, low libido. Would he agree to a doctors visit rule out these issues and take advice?

Thanks ticket. I had told him to go see our family doctor but he keep saying nothing is wrong with him He won't go. I never masturbate in my life but he lead me to this, he is unusual and this is becoming some issue in our relationship. He brought me from Africa into Canada and with all this issue I told my parents but because in our family we doesn't divorce they keep telling me to be patient but I am not truly happy with my life as I never expect this to happen in my marriage. He is that man who wants to work and work work work work... No family time. Yet not the best home ever. Our daughter don't even goes to him whenever he comes back from working I will be the one to say go give daddy a huge. My Christianity life has gone down compare to when I was in Africa, the spirit of God burns in me like fire, highly fortified with God's present. Things changes when I came here, I came with good heart and faith but sometimes I see things not working and thought God has abandoned me or because of my sins toned away his face from me. My brothers and sisters in The Lord I need your advice more often in my life and marriage . How can I handle this situation when my husband refuses to visit a doctor?
Thanks all

Blinking
Mar 7, 2013, 01:19 PM
What Tickle said. Masturbation itself is not a sin, for either men or women. The question is what's in your heart and mind when you do. If it's simple release, no problem. If you're actively fantasizing about the guy on the screen, then it could get to be a problem. But I totally agree: your husband needs to see a doctor. Immediately if not sooner. There's something majorly wrong there, and it sounds like a physiological illness of some kind.

I cried whenever I finish masturbating because I don't like it I believe I should have been doing this with my husband. All I needed from masturbating is just the feelings. But my question is how long will I keep doing this in my life. At only 34 I am still on it and my husband at 55 not interested in sex, when he gets to 60 what happens? He fuses to see a doctor or take treatment or advice . If I don't have sex I don't feel happy should I be unhappy for the rest of my life because I doesn't wants to sin? I love God and this worries me. Is masturbating better than committing adultery? God have mercy on my soul

dontknownuthin
Mar 7, 2013, 01:46 PM
Most people masturbate. Some faiths, including my own, teach that it is sinful. Most educated people, even people of faith, recognize that church teachings are only partly the teaching of God, partly the teaching of men. In the case of this issue, I personally think calling masturbation a sin is ridiculous. It doesn't hurt anybody and has proven to be healthy in many ways.

On the other hand, an asexual husband is not normal, nor is sleeping on the couch. I wonder if your husband is gay but unable to face up to it or admit it to others. It could be something else but I think homosexuality is a real possibility.

Blinking
Mar 7, 2013, 01:57 PM
Most people masturbate. Some faiths, including my own, teach that it is sinful. Most educated people, even people of faith, recognize that church teachings are only partly the teaching of God, partly the teaching of men. In the case of this issue, I personally think calling masturbation a sin is rediculous. It doesn't hurt anybody and has proven to be healthy in many ways.

On the other hand, an asexual husband is not normal, nor is sleeping on the couch. I wonder if your husband is gay but unable to face up to it or admit it to others. It could be something else but I think homosexuality is a real possibility.

Thanks a lot but I don't think he is a gay. They most be something wrong that he doesn't wants me to know.
I had ask him so many times about why he doesn't like sex but he keep saying nothing he is fine. I am the 4th woman in his life maybe this attitude drove away those other women too.

Cat1864
Mar 7, 2013, 03:11 PM
Blinking, do you go to church? If so, I think you need to talk with your pastor/preacher/priest/father. I think there is a lot more you need to discuss than masturbation and you need someone you can talk to face-to-face to give you guidance according to the set of Beliefs you live by.

Each sect of Christianity interprets the Bible in slightly to vastly different ways. So do individuals.

I will say that I don't think you were crying because you 'sinned', but because your husband doesn't appear to believe in showing affection and intimacy. If everything is work to him, I think it is time to ask him why he married you and what his expectations for the marriage were and are. How did your marriage come about? Did you know each other in Africa or did you meet on-line?

Blinking
Mar 7, 2013, 03:33 PM
Blinking, do you go to church? If so, I think you need to talk with your pastor/preacher/priest/father. I think there is a lot more you need to discuss than masturbation and you need someone you can talk to face-to-face to give you guidance according to the set of Beliefs you live by.

Each sect of Christianity interprets the Bible in slightly to vastly different ways. So do individuals.

I will say that I don't think you were crying because you 'sinned', but because your husband doesn't appear to believe in showing affection and intimacy. If everything is work to him, I think it is time to ask him why he married you and what his expectations for the marriage were and are. How did your marriage come about? Did you know each other in Africa or did you meet on-line?

Curtis you're God sent. I am a Christian with a very strong believe in God, my parents are all in Africa, my oldest brother is a Pastor. I meet my husband online when I was in Africa where he came to get married to me and brought me here. I had ask him so many time about this issue even told his mother and friend to advice him for a change to satisfied his wife sexually but that didn't change anything, don't actually knows if they talked with him about this. We have being living together for 4yrs now but married 7yrs. I live in a very small city where I fellowship at a Pentecostal church, I haven't discuss this with my pastor because I don't know if it will be kept secretly but I had meet a counselor about this issue, they ask me to bring him along but he won't come telling me that he will change but he never did.
I will be willing to take this face to face with someone if it will be kept .

classyT
Mar 7, 2013, 03:35 PM
Cat,

You took the words right out of my mouth. Excellent answer

Blink

There is nowhere in the bible that says masturbation is a sin so stop condemning yourself. There IS instructions to husbands and wives and they are NOT to withhold sex from one another. Therefore if anyone is in sin.. I'd take a look at your husband. Especially if you have talked to him about it and he has done nothing. That is HORRIBLE. Even if he has a medical reason he owes you an explanation.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore NOW NO condmenation to those who are in Christ Jesus.

The best way to stay in your cycle is to condmen yourself. ( read Romans 7) Masterbating is only a symptom of a much bigger problem. You aren't evil,sinful and wrong. I completely agree with Cat... you need to talk to someone that can give you good biblical counsel.

Blinking
Mar 7, 2013, 03:40 PM
Cat,

You took the words right out of my mouth. excellent answer

Blink

There is nowhere in the bible that says masterbation is a sin so stop condemning yourself. There IS instructions to husbands and wives and they are NOT to withhold sex from one another. Therefore if anyone is in sin..I'd take a look at your husband. Especially if you have talked to him about it and he has done nothing. That is HORRIBLE. Even if he has a medical reason he owes you an explanation.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore NOW NO condmenation to those who are in Christ Jesus.

The best way to stay in your cycle is to condmen yourself. ( read Romans 7) Masterbating is only a symptom of a much bigger problem. You aren't evil,sinful and wrong. I completely agree with Cat...you need to talk to someone that can give you good biblical counsel.

Thanks a lot I appreciate your advice I might divorce if this persist

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 05:11 PM
I had meet a counselor about this issue, they ask me to bring him along but he won't come telling me that he will change but he never did.
I will be willing to take this face to face with someone if it will be kept .
Are you still meeting with this counselor? I hope so. If you aren't, I urge you to go back and continue with the sessions. I am a counselor and will suggest ways to help you encourage your husband to come with you in the future.

I am the daughter of a pastor and am also a former Lutheran school teacher and Bible class teacher. My younger son belongs to a Pentecostal church in Illinois and my sister belongs to one in SC, so I know their teachings too. I do agree with Cat and classyT that masturbation is not a sin, but withholding sex from a spouse is definitely not a good and healthy thing for a marriage. I too wonder if he has physical or emotional difficulties. Did the two of you ever have problems and he could not complete the sex act, or did this begin suddenly? Can you remember anything that might have upset him or made him angry that he now says no to you?

How do the two of you get along in general?

dwashbur
Mar 7, 2013, 06:32 PM
Is masturbating better than committing adultery?

YES!

Do what you need to do. I understand about your family's beliefs regarding divorce, but you have to do what is best for you. Seeing a counselor is very good, so keep doing that. If he insists there's nothing wrong, there isn't much you can do. I hate to say it, but if you're sleeping on the couch already, it may be necessary to move out for a time. Sometimes it's the only way you can get your own head together in order to address the other problems effectively. I know that from painful experience. Your situation may or may not come to that, but don't dismiss it as a possible option. Again, you have to do what is best for you.

Journey5gurl
Mar 7, 2013, 07:17 PM
Masturbation... like it or not... is a sin.

But it's normal for women to do it. Especially during the teen years. Don't let your husband guilt you if you want to do it, but it is still a sin.

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dwashbur
Mar 7, 2013, 07:23 PM
Masturbation...like it or not....is a sin.
What's your basis for saying this?

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 07:24 PM
Masturbation...like it or not....is a sin.

What is your reasoning on this?

hauntinghelper
Mar 7, 2013, 07:38 PM
Masturbation...like it or not....is a sin.

But it's normal for women to do it. Especially during the teen years. Don't let your husband guilt you if you want to do it, but it is still a sin.

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The bible does not say that masturbation is a sin... only that lust outside of marriage is.

Blinking
Mar 7, 2013, 08:27 PM
Are you still meeting with this counselor? I hope so. If you aren't, I urge you to go back and continue with the sessions. I am a counselor and will suggest ways to help you encourage your husband to come with you in the future.

I am the daughter of a pastor and am also a former Lutheran school teacher and Bible class teacher. My younger son belongs to a Pentecostal church in Illinois and my sister belongs to one in SC, so I know their teachings too. I do agree with Cat and classyT that masturbation is not a sin, but withholding sex from a spouse is definitely not a good and healthy thing for a marriage. I too wonder if he has physical or emotional difficulties. Did the two of you ever have problems and he could not complete the sex act, or did this begin suddenly? Can you remember anything that might have upset him or made him angry that he now says no to you?

How do the two of you get along in general?

I don't know if there is something I did that upset him I do ask him all the time if I did wrong but he will say no you're the best woman in my life. Therefore I asked him why you're romantically connected with me, sometimes no answer sometimes he said too many things going on with his business and things are not right. He has being saying this for the pass 4yrs now. He doesn't sleep in the same bedroom with me. He said nothing wrong his sex life that he won't go see a doctor or counselor for marriage advice. This whole situation is making me unhappy with my life.

tickle
Mar 7, 2013, 08:29 PM
What's your basis for saying this?

Yes I would be interested in knowing this too

hauntinghelper
Mar 7, 2013, 08:33 PM
Of course, I don't know how someone could masturbate and not lust... but maybe that's a different discussion..

tickle
Mar 7, 2013, 08:33 PM
Masturbation...like it or not....is a sin.

But it's normal for women to do it. Especially during the teen years. Don't let your husband guilt you if you want to do it, but it is still a sin.

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Would you mind explaining your statement. Why do you think masturbating is a sin?

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 08:34 PM
he won't go see a doctor or counselor for marriage advice. This whole situation is making me unhappy with my life.
Then you go to a counselor, or keep going to one if you are already. There are ways to encourage him to go too.

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 08:36 PM
Of course, I don't know how someone could masturbate and not lust...but maybe that's a different discussion..
Is lusting for chocolate okay?

Curtis Wilson
Mar 7, 2013, 08:38 PM
No, this isn't the point of the post. OP wanted to know if masturbating is a sin. You are turning the topic around to match your religious outlook.

The word god is not being discussed in this thread.

Maybe I am wrong here, but is not sin defined by the Word of God?
Are you guys for real!! Can not you even distinguish between right and wrong?

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 08:40 PM
Maybe I am wrong here, but is not sin defined by the Word of God?
Are you guys for real!!! Can not you even distinguish between right and wrong?
What do you believe and why? (be brief, please)

Curtis Wilson
Mar 7, 2013, 08:40 PM
Of course, I don't know how someone could masturbate and not lust...but maybe that's a different discussion..

You can't

Curtis Wilson
Mar 7, 2013, 08:45 PM
What do you believe and why? (be brief, please)

Any one who looks at a woman or man and lusts after them is guilty of comminting adultry. Weather its by seeing or thinking.

Mat 5:28 But here is what I tell you. Do not even look at a woman in the wrong way. Anyone who does has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Curtis

tickle
Mar 7, 2013, 08:47 PM
Any one who looks at a woman or man and lusts after them is guilty of comminting adultry. Weather its by seeing or thinking.

Mat 5:28 But here is what I tell you. Do not even look at a woman in the wrong way. Anyone who does has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Curtis
This post is not about adultery

Curtis Wilson
Mar 7, 2013, 08:48 PM
This post is not about adultery

Is adultry sin? And if it is then lusting after a man is adultry

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 08:49 PM
Mat 5:28 But here is what I tell you. Do not even look at a woman in the wrong way. Anyone who does has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
She's not looking at a woman in the wrong way, nor is she committing adultery.

Curtis Wilson
Mar 7, 2013, 08:54 PM
She's not looking at a woman in the wrong way, nor is she committing adultery.

Come on, this is not rocket science here. You do not want to tell someone they are not sinning when surely are. Lusting after a man or woman it makes no difference it is sin.
The lady even says it worries her... that means her conscience is working like it should. Our conscience helps us to know the difference between right and wrong!

Curtis

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 08:55 PM
Come on, this is not rocket science here. You do not want to tell someone they are not sinning when surely are. Lusting after a man or woman it makes no difference it is sin.
She did not state that she is lusting after anyone.

Curtis Wilson
Mar 7, 2013, 08:59 PM
She did not state that she is lusting after anyone.

" I decided to masturbate by looking pornography "

Is this good?

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 09:02 PM
" I decided to masturbate by looking pornography "
Is this good?
Still doesn't mean she is lusting. :)

Curtis Wilson
Mar 7, 2013, 09:14 PM
Still doesn't mean she is lusting. :)

All this lady needs is to hear the truth that what she is doing is wrong, and that there is forgiveness. Which I can guarantee she already knows that. There is power in prayer. Comfort and strength which comes from hearing some one telling her the truth.

Wondergirl
Mar 7, 2013, 09:19 PM
All this lady needs is to hear the truth that what she is doing is wrong, and that there is forgiveness. Which I can guarantee she already knows that. There is power in prayer. Comfort and strength which comes from hearing some one telling her the truth.
Why fill her with guilt for doing something (masturbating) that is not forbidden by the Bible? That is a sin, to deliberately mislead someone. And women don't lust when watching porn. Women view and internalize porn differently from men. Of course, if Johnny Depp is in the porn movie, I might do a bit of lusting, but generally that is not how our minds work.

Alty
Mar 7, 2013, 09:21 PM
All this lady needs is to hear the truth that what she is doing is wrong, and that there is forgiveness. Which I can guarantee she already knows that. There is power in prayer. Comfort and strength which comes from hearing some one telling her the truth.

The truth according to whom? You? That's your truth, that doesn't make it fact. You need to learn that your opinion is just that, your opinion. Fact doesn't enter into it, and there can't be truth without fact.

Alty
Mar 7, 2013, 09:23 PM
To the OP. There are two types of people in the world. Those that masturbate, and those that lie about masturbating. So, if you're sinning, so is everyone else. Babies masturbate. Do they know that that's what they're doing? No. But they know that it feels good, so they do it. I very much doubt that any God worth worshiping would create pleasure, and then deny you that pleasure.

Fr_Chuck
Mar 7, 2013, 09:39 PM
Looking at the porn would normally be considered a sin by many religious groups, the masturbation would not be.

His refusal to have sex with you for 7 years would be considered a sin also.

Fr_Chuck
Mar 8, 2013, 12:04 AM
This is a place to answer the posters question,

We will not get into fighting among answers,
Two people may answer and those answers do not agree.
We will not attack each other.

I am sickened by people claiming ( and I doubt those claims) to be Christians and attacking others. Reminds of Satan using God's word in the Bible. Merely knowing the bible does not make a person a question, it is living that life.

To the OP, Most people misquote scripture all the time, they don't see it in the historic or literary context.

Fr_Chuck
Mar 8, 2013, 12:10 AM
Looking at the porn is wrong, that is where the lust is, if she masturbated thinking of her husband, I challenge anyone to show me that is wrong?