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zzeevveenn
Feb 7, 2013, 09:24 AM
Just wondering,after all the crazy shootings on the school,movie theaters and more,I decided to carry my gun with me all the time,what could be the worst situation if I get caught with my gun with out a concealed weapon permit on the great state of Texas?Any Texan cop here to answer please?

JudyKayTee
Feb 7, 2013, 09:26 AM
You don't need to be a Texas "copy" to answer. It's against the law. You'd be arrested. In this political climate you could serve jail time.

No one here can give you any advice on how to circumvent the legal system - nor will anyone.

It's against the law. Why are you considering it? How much pistol training have you had? It doesn't sound all that complicated to get a carry permit. (I have one in NY, by the way.) Why don't you simply apply for a carry and/or colcealed carry permit?

Here's the law your Attorney will quote you after you are arrested:

"Concealed carry licensing - The Texas concealed carry permit is called a "Concealed Handgun License" or CHL. Permits are issued on a non-discretionary ("shall-issue") basis to all eligible, qualified applicants. Texas has full reciprocity agreements with 30 states, not including Vermont (which is an "unrestricted" state and neither issues nor requires permits), most of these having some residency restrictions (the holder must either be a resident of Texas or a non-resident of the reciprocal state for the Texas license to be valid in that state). Texas recognizes an additional 11 states' concealed-carry permits unilaterally; those states do not recognize Texas' own permit as valid within their jurisdiction.

The concealed handgun law sets out the eligibility criteria that must be met. For example, an applicant must be eligible to purchase a handgun under the State and Federal laws (including an age restriction of 21), however an exception is granted to active members of the military who are age 18 and over. Additionally, a number of factors may make a person ineligible (temporarily or permanently) to obtain a license, including:
Felony convictions (permanent) and Class A or B misdemeanors (5 years, permanent in cases of domestic violence), including charges that resulted in probation or deferred adjudication;
Pending criminal charges (indefinite until resolved);
Chemical or alcohol dependency (defined as 2 convictions for substance-related offenses in a 10-year period; 10-year ban from the date of the first conviction);
Certain types of psychological diagnoses (indefinite until the condition is testified by a medical professional as being in remission);
Protective or restraining orders (indefinite until rescinded); or
Defaults on taxes, governmental fees, or child support (indefinite until resolved).[3]

This last category, though having little to do with a person's ability to own a firearm, is in keeping with Texas policy for any licensing; those who are delinquent or in default on State-regulated debts are generally barred from obtaining or renewing any State-issued license (including driver licenses), as an incentive to settle those debts.

An eligible person wishing to obtain a CHL must take a State-set instruction course taught by a licensed instructor, covering topics such as applicable laws, conflict resolution, criminal/civil liability, and handgun safety, and pass a practical qualification at a firing range with a weapon of the type they wish to use (revolver or semi-automatic) and of a caliber greater than .32". Such courses vary in cost, but are typically around $100–$125 for new applicants (usually not including the cost of ammunition and other shooting supplies; the practical qualification requires firing 50 rounds of ammunition). They may then apply, providing a picture, fingerprints, other documentation, and a $140 application fee ($70 for renewals, and active and discharged military are eligible for discounts) to the DPS, which processes the application, runs a federal background check, and if all is well, issues the permit. Permits are valid for five years, and allow resident holders to carry in 29 other states (nonresidents may carry in all but 3 of those), due to reciprocity agreements.[4] Discounted CHL fees vary from $0 for active duty military (through one year after discharge), to $70 ($35 renewal) for military veterans. The combination of the application fee and the instruction/qualification make the cost of initially obtaining a CHL for a civilian roughly $250, which is among the highest such costs among "shall-issue" states." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Texas

zzeevveenn
Feb 7, 2013, 09:31 AM
All my life,that's my training,and I know it's against the law,but I prefer to be against the law and maybe in jail than shot dead by a crazy gunman,my question wasn't that,I asked for the worst situation,I already know there is bad consecuences,I just want to know how bad,

odinn7
Feb 7, 2013, 09:36 AM
Go and get a CCW, it's not that hard.
Why would you even want to carry without a permit? Are you a gangsta or a wannabe? Maybe you like feeling like you're an outlaw?

Guess what? If you're caught with a concealed gun and you don't have the permit, you're facing some serious issues.


And to answer... what is the worst situation you could face... a felony.

JudyKayTee
Feb 7, 2013, 10:05 AM
Didn't I already say you could serve jail time?

Let me make sure I understand - you want to know what you could face that would be worse than a permanent record which could be a felony as well as jail time (and legal fees and fines)?

If you already know, why did you ask?

dontknownuthin
Feb 7, 2013, 10:19 AM
Why don't you just get a permit? What part of "we're not going to help you break the law" and "you could go to jail" did you not understand? Judy laid it out exactly. Texas is a very gun friendly state - the only reason not to get a permit is if you have some precluding issue like a felony record or history of mental illness or illegal residency or something. Do you really want to make any of those situations worse by getting caught with an illegally concealed weapon?

Behaviors like yours just make it harder for law-abiding gun owners. That's because people who are not big gun lovers, like me for example, are willing to reduce the rights of legal gun owners and make it way harder for anyone to get a gun at all if that's what it takes to stop people like you from having access to one.

odinn7
Feb 7, 2013, 04:27 PM
the only reason not to get a permit is if you have some precluding issue like a felony record or history of mental illness or illegal residency or something.

In which case, it would be illegal for him to own a firearm in the first place. So this whole thing does make me wonder.

I have a CCW... not too hard to get one as long as you don't have anything bad against you... and a lot better feeling, I would think, to walk around and not have to worry about going to jail over something so stupid.

excon
Feb 8, 2013, 06:28 AM
Hello z:

A citizen wouldn't talk like you. My guess is you're a felon.. If you're caught, it's a mandatory 5 years.

excon

Fr_Chuck
Feb 8, 2013, 06:41 AM
And often longer, if they turn it over to the feds. I agree, if he wanted to carry real bad, he would get a carry permit, in Texas it is so easy to get