I was the Maintenance Supervisor at a townhome community! And was terminated because I didn't pay the rent on time! And then was advised that the rent was being taken out of my pay! Which I offered to have done before I was let go! And was told they couldn't or wouldn't? But I actually never signed a lease here! And now they want me to! After I've lived here a month! I don't want to be considered a squatter! But do I not sign the lease? Am I considered a squatter? What rights do I have? Or what rights do they have to evict me? The power is still in their name! I guess they can turn it off? But could I turn it back on and stay? I'm sure they're going to go through the eviction process! I just was given a 3 day notice! But how does this happen? I don't even have a lease!?

All of the punctuation marks make this difficult to read.

What State?

The bottom line is, lease or no lease, were you expected to pay rent and when?

Did you pay on time?

Are you asking about unemployment or being evicted (or asked to leave)?

"They" cannot use self help which is deducting your rent from your pay unless you agreed to that - and it appears that you did agree.

One thing for sure, you aren't a squatter. You are a tenant. You have to be evicted according to the law of your state (if you are in the US).
But WHY didn't you pay your February rent? Didn't you get a paycheck for January? It's clear that the management doesn't mess around. There's another 100 people wishing they had your job. So go talk to them calmly and show some of your intelligence that got you the job in the first place, and bring this month's rent with you. If you have to beg people to lend it to you.

All of the punctuation marks make this difficult to read.

What State?

The bottom line is, lease or no lease, were you expected to pay rent and when?

Did you pay on time?

Are you asking about unemployment or being evicted (or asked to leave)?

"They" cannot use self help which is deducting your rent from your pay unless you agreed to that - and it appears that you did agree. Fla. I was told I agreed on the new hire information packet? I didn't even live here then! So even with no lease I am held in agreement? This is a right to work state and I understand they can fire me for any reason! I just have checked about employers taking most of your pay for a debt to the company and its illegal! But I've still not been paid! But since they've taken my pay for rent! Does that mean they can't evict until the next month?

The big question is why haven't you been paid? You've been there a month. Are you paid monthly? Is the check mailed to you? We just aren't getting enough information.
You have a reason to be upset but MUST handle this calmly.

One thing for sure, you aren't a squatter. You are a tenant. You have to be evicted according to the law of your state (if you are in the US).
But WHY didn't you pay your February rent? Didn't you get a paycheck for January? It's clear that the management doesn't mess around. There's another 100 people wishing they had your job. So go talk to them calmly and show some of your intelligence that got you the job in the first place, and bring this month's rent with you. If you have to beg people to lend it to you. its already a done deal! I tried to get them to take it out before I was let go! Yea I'm sure they've been in a similar situation before! But if they took it out? They could've before I was let go! Now I'm unemployed! And fired for it? It doesent make sense to me!? If they could've taken it out? Why didn't they do it before all this? I asked them to! But was told the company couldn't or wouldn't do it?

The big question is why haven't you been paid? You've been there a month. Are you paid monthly? Is the check mailed to you? We just aren't getting enough information.
You have a reason to be upset but MUST handle this calmly. this is my dilemma! My check at Christmas was 2 weeks late! And I was told they were taking it back, taking out the rent and cutting me a new one! I didn't think this was legal? And this was the day my check was supposed to be here? How can this be legal? How does this or any company take back a check? Its ed weekly! And was supposed to be here a week ago! And I still haven't been paid!

this is my dilemma! My check at Christmas was 2 weeks late! And I was told they were taking it back, taking out the rent and cutting me a new one!! I didn't think this was legal? And this was the day my check was supposed to be here? How can this be legal? How does this or any company take back a check? Its ed weekly! And was supposed to be here a week ago!! And I still haven't been paid! its biweekly!

This is very confusing. I'm going to try to get the facts down here. You were hired as the Maintenance Supervisor. Part of the job included a unit for which you had to pay rent. That's about all the facts I can read.

For some reason you were terminated after a month? What was the reason for termination? Were you told you had to vacate the unit? It sounds like you are saying the employment agreement was for them to deduct the rent from your pay. For some reason this wasn't done initially. So they cancelled the check to issue a new one. Is that correct?

Has the rent been paid? If so, for what period? If you got a 3 day pay or quit notice, then, if you don't pay what you owe, in full within the 3 days, then they can file for eviction.

I suggest you try to calm down and relate the facts of your situation so we can advise.

This is very confusing. I'm going to try to get the facts down here. You were hired as the Maintenance Supervisor. Part of the job included a unit for which you had to pay rent. That's about all the facts I can read. Correct!

For some reason you were terminated after a month? What was the reason for termination? Were you told you had to vacate the unit? It sounds like you are saying the employment agreement was for them to deduct the rent from your pay. For some reason this wasn't done initially. So they cancelled the check to issue a new one. Is that correct?
Yes! But there wasn't any agreement! At least to my knowledge? I even asked! And was told that wasn't possible!
Has the rent been paid? If so, for what period? If you got a 3 day pay or quit notice, then, if you don't pay what you owe, in full within the 3 days, then they can file for eviction.
January! That's the part that I was told was being taken out of my pay? After termination! And I was issued a 3 day notice today!
I suggest you try to calm down and relate the facts of your situation so we can advise.
Yes I was! I was terminated for not paying January's rent on time! After I was told it would be OK! I just don't understand why I was fired for non payment of rent! And then the very next day! The day I was to receive my check! Now they can do it? If they couldn't before? Why can they after termination?

You agreed that your rent could be paid from your paycheck. They apparently agreed and deducted your rent from your paycheck. I'm not reading that there was any time frame connected with that agreement. You (apparently) didn't tell them to either take the deal now or not take it at all.

They then terminated you for whatever reason (and they don't really need a reason) and are evicting you because you paid your rent late. Maybe they feel you are irresponsible because your rent was late and they don't want irresponsible people working for them. Maybe not.

They are entitled to evict you.

You were a month-to-month tenant. You didn't need a lease.

Other than that I agree - please calm down, stop using so much punctuation and tell me where I don't understand what's happened.

You started saying you lived there a month. Later you said your December bi-weekly check was late.
Tell us the dates you worked.
The day you moved in.
The weeks you were paid for.

I have a feeling that the December check was late because your Jan rent was late. Same with Feb. They expect YOU to pay your rent BEFORE they pay you, in case you don't pay it, and they can then (by agreement in writing) take it out of your pay.

You sound very disorganized at least the way you write. It's too bad you have lost a good job because you didn't have your act together, and can't communicate with them clearly.

You started out saying you lived there a month. Later you said your December bi-weekly check was late.
Tell us the dates you worked.
The day you moved in.
The weeks you were paid for.

I have a feeling that the December check was late because your Jan rent was late. Same with Feb. They expect YOU to pay your rent BEFORE they pay you, in case you don't pay it, and they can then (by agreement in writing) take it out of your pay.

You sound very disorganized at least the way you write. It's too bad you have lost a good job because you didn't have your act together, and can't communicate with them clearly.
Wow! I didn't think I would get such a bad response? I'm not a bad person and I was told I was an excellent employee! I had a problem with my bank account! And I didn't move in until the second week of January! The December check was late because they sent it to the wrong address according to them! Anyone would be upset about this and having to go throughout Christmas without being paid! The problems I had with my bank account was almost 3 weeks ago! And I told the manager about it and was assured that it was not a problem! But all of the sudden it was? I was just told by the HR department that if I vacated by Friday I'd be paid in full
For my last check! And I was advised that they cannot turn off my power! And would have to legally evict me! I don't need a response to that! Just stating the fact! I'm just hoping that something bad like this doesn't happen to anyone else! Especially a Family! It would be horrible to put a Family on the streets for no reason! No matter what reason a company may have! Especially to a hard working, I worked almost 80 hrs. A week here on salary! Person that's just trying to take care of themselves or they're Family!

I don't know how much of an "excellent" employee you are. I asked you to please stop using excessive punctuation, particularly when you are trying to make a good impression, asking a question, and you have not done so.

Management had an incorrect address for you - but you lived in their complex?

What is it exactly, without emotion, that you want to know?

I don't know how much of an "excellent" employee you are. I asked you to please stop using excessive punctuation, particularly when you are trying to make a good impression, asking a question, and you have not done so.

Management had an incorrect address for you - but you lived in their complex?

What is it exactly, without emotion, that you want to know?
You must be an English Teacher! I guess I'm not sure? I was just inquiring the legality of this situation? And if it was legal to keep or take someone's pay? Or pay them late? And what would I have to do about staying or leaving?

My being an English teacher or not has nothing to do with this. It's about whether you can follow a simple instruction.

No, I’m a person who has answered thousands of questions and doesn’t see the need for excessive punctuation. Not every word you say deserves exclamation marks.

You aren’t sure about what?

The legality of WHAT situation? If you agreed that management could keep your pay to pay your rent, yes, it’s legal because YOU agreed to it. You didn’t say, “You can take part of my pay today but not tomorrow,” right? So they took part of your pay.

No, you can’t be paid late deliberately. If there is an error with your address it’s another category. I asked you a question - you lived in the complex but the complex didn’t know where to mail your check?

What would you have to do about staying or leaving? You’re being evicted for late payment of rent. You paid late. They can evict you for that reason. You aren’t being evicted for non-payment as I understand it. This isn’t a situation where you make up the late rent and management allows you to stay. This is a situation where you paid your rent late. You can’t go back and make that up.

Why do you want to stay in a complex which has fired you?

Is that it?

My being an English teacher or not has nothing to do with this. It's about whether or not you can follow a simple instruction.

No, I’m a person who has answered thousands of questions and doesn’t see the need for excessive punctuation. Not every word you say deserves exclamation marks.

You aren’t sure about what?

The legality of WHAT situation? If you agreed that management could keep your pay to pay your rent, yes, it’s legal because YOU agreed to it. You didn’t say, “You can take part of my pay today but not tomorrow,” right? So they took part of your pay.

No, you can’t be paid late deliberately. If there is an error with your address it’s another category. I asked you a question - you lived in the complex but the complex didn’t know where to mail your check?

What would you have to do about staying or leaving? You’re being evicted for late payment of rent. You paid late. They can evict you for that reason. You aren’t being evicted for non-payment as I understand it. This isn’t a situation where you make up the late rent and management allows you to stay. This is a situation where you paid your rent late. You can’t go back and make that up.

Why do you want to stay in a complex which has fired you?

Is that it? no I don't want to stay here I did not agree to them doing this and if I had my pay on time it would've already been paid look no punctuation and maybe you shouldn't answer so many things it has made you very judgemental and I must say pretty mean

I'm just frustrated because you won't be clear about exactly what happened, when it happened, and what you signed.
You can't get a simple 'I just want to know if it's legal' if we don't know all the facts.

No, I’m a person who has answered thousands of questions and doesn’t see the need for excessive punctuation. Not every word you say deserves exclamation marks.


It's sort of like the boy who cried "Wolf!" If you use an exclamation point at the end of every sentence or clause, the exclamation point tends to loose any meaning.

As far as I can determine, every state is an "at will" employment state. This, by the way, is different from being a "right to work" state. That means a state which prohibits an employer from conditioning employment upon membership in a labor union.

Glenn,

I understand your being upset, but if you want us to help you, you have to be more coherent about the facts. Your anger and frustration is causing you to rant and rave and we aren't getting a clear picture that we can use to help you.

It's sort of like the boy who cried "Wolf!" If you use an exclamation point at the end of every sentence or clause, j exclamation point tends to loose any meaning.

As far as I can determine, every state is an "at will" employment state. This, by the way, is different from being a "right to work" state. That means a state which prohibits an employer from conditioning employment upon membership in a labor union.. I just didn't have a clue about this situation? I've never been in a spot like this. I was told and thought that you always got paid for the hours you've worked? I would've paid the rent on time and was told it would be OK if it was a couple days late. But once this manager left and the new one was going to take over is when he changed his mind. I know they don't have to have a reason in this state to fire you. And I'm not arguing that. I moved in the 2nd week of January and this happened on the 31st of January. I was only here for 3 weeks. And my pay was enough to have gotten caught up after paying that rent and with one more check would've paid the next months rent on time. I just wasn't sure what my rights were being that I didn't ever sign a lease . I'm not A scumbag that tried to live here w/o paying it just didn't seem fair to be terminated for this and then my next paycheck that was supposed to be here that next day still isn't here. I have 2 choices. I can stay here and make them evict me at the risk of having my last check taken completely which I know is not legal. Or move out on Friday and take their offer of getting my last check? But I did say it has to be in writing. I don't know what you or anyone here could tell me or answer this? I just went on here to see what I could or should do? I've tried not to use excessive punctuation. Hope that helps you. The problem I have is that I can stay here and be defiant? Or like most poor people like me take whatever I can get, cut my losses and take it! Just a statement not a question.

If you get a check that has been deducted from and you are disputing the check should you still cash it? Even if you are completely broke?

Generally, once you cash the check, it is like you are accepting it as it is.

I disagree. In the old days you wrote 'accepted under protest' on the check but those days are gone. You can cash it and still fight for your rights in court without prejudice.

I agree to disagree... :)

Generally, once you cash the check, it is like you are accepting it as it is.
I was told that I should make a copy of it and I have a pay stub/notice from that week that says what I should have gotten but they took it back and took out a deduction that I don't think I authorized? They said it was in the new hire package? But you know when you start a new job and are happy to have one that you don't read all the things you sign. I know dumb! I once had an owner tell me leases are to be signed and not read! This is the same sort of thing. I live on their property as a maintenance supervisor and was told if I move they'll give me my last check. But if I don't they're going to keep it? I've checked all kinds of labor law websites and says this isn't legal. To take most or all of someone's pay a (balloon payment) no matter if you cause thousands of dollars of damage! Its called employers risk? I'm being held at ransom here because they know I need money badly. And think they can get me out of here by telling me they'll take my pay they know their in a bad position with me because I never signed a lease and still have the power in their name and they can't legally turn it off with me living here. So I can leave and hope they pay me like they've offered or stay and make them try and evict me and fight to get my last check?

Actually, now that I'm looking around, I think this should be part of your other question.

Actually, now that I'm looking around, I think this should be part of your other question.
Maybe? Its just a hot mess! If I had money already? I'd sit here and at least have a home! But I'm so broke! And being poor already like most poor people will probably have to move and take whatever they give me. Just to eat. And have the basics. It just sucks to be in this spot. At least I'm alone and don't have a family to worry about. I'd hate for this to happen to a family!

Glenn is here to argue and be insulting - he can't answer a very simple question and I'm judgmental (I haven't judged him at all) and mean and has resorted to "look I'm not using any punctuation" to prove his point.

I understand, with his people skills, why he was let go.

Glenn also doesn't have a clear picture of what he wants, and he doesn't want to listen.

I think it's time to close.

I will agree, Glen is not listening, he has no knowledge of why he is in this, he had no idea how he was being paid, and about his rental.

He merely needs to move and find another place to live.

I am closing this