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despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 04:47 PM
Little volunteer work, poor interview skills, no job experience, poor communication skills, scared to call people, not outgoing or happy person, no skills, or qualification, at all. Not even qualified to clean floors, wash dishes, or any fast food joint. So what do I do now? I'm willing to do anything besides sales or call centers, or being a server or hostess. I'm too fat for those jobs.

So I need help with making a resume and with interviewing skills.

I can't go to college right so the out of the question.
I can't go to the military because I am too obese.
I have some volunteer experience but apparently that doesn't count.
I'm out of high school and during that time I was depressed and didn't do squat.
Temp services says their nothing for me all the time.
I don't have a drivers license.
Currently going to a job center but no luck.

ScottGem
Jan 1, 2013, 04:50 PM
There are job centers that will help you with interview skills and resume prep. Check your local dept of labor for referrals.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 04:52 PM
Hmm. All right

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 07:55 PM
Do you live near a public library, or can get to one on public transportation? If so, apply to be a page (book shelver). It's an interesting job, will keep you moving, and will get your foot in the door for other jobs there.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 07:59 PM
Do I check in person or online? Because I see no postings for a book shelver.

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 08:05 PM
You go in person, go to the front desk, ask for an application, fill it out there (if you have all your information), and note in the top right corner you want to shelve books, then with a cheery smile, hand it back to the circulation clerk. Even if there is no opening, the turnover is probably rather good as the pages go on to find other jobs, so you may have to wait a few months, but at least you are on their list. Apply at other libraries in the area too.

Enigma1999
Jan 1, 2013, 08:06 PM
Honestly, you better start changing your ways if you want to make it out in the real world...

I cannot think of ANY jobs that you would feel comfortable with.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 10:46 PM
You go in person, go to the front desk, ask for an application, fill it out there (if you have all your information), and note in the top right corner you want to shelve books, then with a cheery smile, hand it back to the circulation clerk. Even if there is no opening, the turnover is probably rather good as the pages go on to find other jobs, so you may have to wait a few months, but at least you are on their list. Apply at other libraries in the area too.

Ok thank you I'll try that tomorrow and post back here.

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 10:47 PM
Yes, let me know how it goes.

What do you consider "poor interview skills"?

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 10:48 PM
Honestly, you better start changing your ways if you want to make it out in the real world...

I cannot think of ANY jobs that you would feel comfortable with.

What do you mean by that?

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 10:50 PM
I have a quick test for you for shelving books.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 10:52 PM
Yes, let me know how it goes.

What do you consider "poor interview skills"?

Well according to the this one interview I was on a long time ago I was too nervous and kept squirming, couldn't look him in the eye couldn't answer the questions correctly, would either give too short of an answer or take to long to answer, or be too negative about myself. Stuff like that.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 10:52 PM
I have a quick test for you for shelving books.

Huh? What is that?

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 10:53 PM
Are you male or female (can't tell so far) and how old?

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 10:54 PM
Sorry, Wonder girl. I am female and 20 years old.

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 10:54 PM
In order to shelve books, you have to know your ABCs and how to put numbers in order. I'll give you a quickie test.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 10:57 PM
If that's all I have know.. I think I might fail since I have trouble with those.

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:01 PM
Let's give it a try.

Fiction authors (including mystery, science fiction, fantasy, and western authors) are shelved by their last name. Put these three mystery authors in order like they would be on the shelf:

Sue Grafton
Janet Evanovich
Lilian Jackson Braun

dontknownuthin
Jan 1, 2013, 11:03 PM
First you need to seek out some help. Your local unemployment office will offer classes (for free) and other assistance to figure out how to write a resume even if you have little to put on it, and can teach and coach you in interviewing skills. You need to take the initiative to solve these problems and remove these obstacles. You might not become great at interviewing but not every job is suitable for outgoing people. You just need to be a competent interview subject, and find work that's fitting to your personality.

Second, you might need to fake it a bit. I would never hire someone who described themselves the way you do, such as "I'm not a happy person". You will have to smile, be friendly and approachable and put your best foot forward and put these negative thoughts about yourself out of your head. You need some successes and the happiness will come, and for work at least, you'll have to fake your happiness in the interim.

You may need help identifying potential careers and for this I would recommend you contact your local community college. They often do testing for free or very low cost, particularly if you cannot afford it, to help people determine what they are meant to do in life. They can also talk through your concerns with you, tell you about available training programs and career ideas and so on, and help you formulate a goal for yourself.

It seems like a lot of your negative energy focuses on your weight, which you describe as a real obstacle to a lot of work ideas you've come up with on your own. Perhaps you need some help to get to a weight with which you can be more comfortable. That might be what you really need to do, not to be acceptable to an employer (they do hire people who are overweight - most adults are heavy these days and most have jobs) - you might need to loose weight to be acceptable to yourself. You may view your weight challenges as a personal failure, and may need to learn to be more positive about everything in your life so you don't make yourself feel so badly that you escape to food.

So yeah - call your local unemployment office and schedule yourself for a class or one on one help with your resume and interviewing skills. Call your local high school or community college and find out about career counseling and testing for possible areas of interest and careers that would suit your personality. Look into resources for sensible weight loss and set a small goal for yourself - like 10 pounds - so you can start having successes in your life and change that negative tape playing in your head to something positive and affirming.

Just because you haven't done a lot professionally doesn't mean you can't in the future. You can learn and be trained and develop experience and tear down these obstructions in your life little by little.

Best wishes to you.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:03 PM
Braun J. L.
Evanovich J.
Grafton S.

Uhh is that correcnt?

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:04 PM
Braun J. L.
Evanovich J.
Grafton S.

uhh is that correcnt?
Yup! Perfect!

Was that easy enough for you? Want to try a harder set?

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:10 PM
Sure. Though I feel like a complete idiot.

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:11 PM
Why like a complete idiot? This is usually the quickie type test a library book shelver prospect takes.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:14 PM
Because I know I can do something like be a book shelver I don't feel confident I will get it at all. That's why.

dontknownuthin
Jan 1, 2013, 11:16 PM
What do you mean by that?

I think what's meant is that you portray yourself in an entirely negative manner. You need a different list - all the good things about yourself, what your interests are, what your hobbies are, what you enjoy doing for fun, what particular talents and skills you have.

For example, you're comfortable using a computer and blogging, using the internet. That's a transferable skill that could be used in a job. Maybe you like animals - perhaps you would be a good receptionist at an animal shelter. Maybe you like kids and could be an office worker for a school or a classroom aide for a teacher. Maybe you like books and could do the suggested library job, while you also go to school for a degree in library science and become a librarian - a high pay, great job. Perhaps you could work in a call center and take orders for a catalog company, or schedule repairs for your utility company. Maybe you love gadgets and technology and could get a job for a call center, helping people on the phone to set up their new phones or computer software (a lot of companies train the entry level people to take care of basic questions and if it needs more expertise, you escalate the call to a more skilled person).

Think about all the good things about you and if you can't think of anything, ask someone who likes you more than you like yourself and take them seriously.

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:17 PM
Here are three science fiction authors to put in shelf order -

Ben Bova
T. J. Bass
Iain Banks

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:20 PM
I think what's meant is that you portray yourself in an entirely negative manner and your negativity will be a barrier to your success. People don't want a "downer" in their office, making everyone else feel lousy. You don't have to feel happy but you sure have to fake it well and find a positive way to talk about yourself. For example, even in asking for our help, a more positive manner might have been:

"I am looking for my first job and will appreciate your help. I am naturally shy and have some anxiety about interviewing, and because this is my first job, I do not know how to draft a good resume. Some obstacles I need to work around are physical limitations due to obesity, and a lack of specific skill training." But then move on and talk about what's good, such as

"I am very eager to be self

*sigh* You're right I'm sorry. I just can't help to be negative. It just spills out of my mouth especially when it comes to talking about myself.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:21 PM
Banks Iain
Bass T.J.
Bova Ben

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:22 PM
You're on a roll! Want to do some decimals?

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:23 PM
Oh gawd, not math I am horrible with math but I'll try I suppose

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:24 PM
Oh gawd, not math I am horrible with math but I'll try I suppose
No, no, no. What did dontknownuthin just help you with in being positive? What is a better way to say that?

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:27 PM
I don't know. What was wrong with that? I don't see it as negative its true.

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:29 PM
I don't know. What was wrong with that? I don't see it as negative its true.
Spin it to the positive. You're doing well so far with my quickie test, so spin how you react to my testing you on decimals.

dontknownuthin
Jan 1, 2013, 11:36 PM
You need to totally change the tape in your head about who you are, dear. Try writing an entirely positive description of yourself.

No more talking about feeling stupid, etc. Why would you feel stupid about taking a quick quiz to find out if you're competent for a job? You did perfectly well on it so instead of feeling stupid, view it as proof that you aren't unskilled. You know how to do a lot of things but you are undervaluing yourself.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:37 PM
I think what's meant is that you portray yourself in an entirely negative manner. You need a different list - all the good things about yourself, what your interests are, what your hobbies are, what you enjoy doing for fun, what particular talents and skills you have.

For example, you're comfortable using a computer and blogging, using the internet. That's a transferable skill that could be used in a job. Maybe you like animals - perhaps you would be a good receptionist at an animal shelter. Maybe you like kids and could be an office worker for a school or a classroom aide for a teacher. Maybe you like books and could do the suggested library job, while you also go to school for a degree in library science and become a librarian - a high pay, great job. Perhaps you could work in a call center and take orders for a catalog company, or schedule repairs for your utility company. Maybe you love gadgets and technology and could get a job for a call center, helping people on the phone to set up their new phones or computer software (a lot of companies train the entry level people to take care of basic questions and if it needs more expertise, you escalate the call to a more skilled person).

Think about all the good things about you and if you can't think of anything, ask someone who likes you more than you like yourself and take them seriously.

Uhh, OK. Those are pretty decent but don't think I can make it in a call center or being around kids. In school people said I should be a library because I used to read so much but I stopped reading a long time ago and never started back.
As for hobbies, interests, talents, or skills I don't really know. How can I make a list with good things about myself when that so hard? Talking positive about me seems so strange and makes me cringe its frekain embarrassing.

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:40 PM
Spin it to the positive. You're doing well so far with my quickie test, so spin how you react to my testing you on decimals.

Uhh.. how about I haven't been practicing with decimals as much as I should so I might have trouble with it? Is that better?

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:41 PM
Uhh, ok. Those are pretty decent but don't think I can make it in a call center or being around kids. In school people said i should be a library because I used to read so much but I stopped reading a long time ago and never started back.
We're trying to help you feel confident about working in a library shelving books. My list about your good points is growing. :)

Ready for the decimal quiz?

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:47 PM
Fiction is shelved by author's last name. Non-fiction is shelved by decimals (the Dewey Decimal Classification system, meaning 000-999) plus the author's last name. Put these decimals in numerical order --

973
650.14
355.5

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:50 PM
Like that? Numerical order from 000-999?

355.5
650.14
973

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:51 PM
We're trying to help you feel confident about working in a library shelving books. My list about your good points is growing. :)

Ready for the decimal quiz?

Oh I'm sorry my bad.

Wondergirl
Jan 1, 2013, 11:51 PM
You're a natural!

There's no adding or subtracting or math work, just recognizing which is more or less. Good job!

Want to try a harder one?

despicableme
Jan 1, 2013, 11:54 PM
I'm not a natural this is something anyone could do. Ok I'll try harder one. But with all this practice anyway? Not that I'm discrediting anything your doing for me I appreciate but there are not guarantees their any openings.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:00 AM
No, not just anyone could do this. I've done quickie quizzes with many teens and adults. You'd be shocked at how many "failed." The best ones are the people with autism!

Here's the basic rundown of what number category various subjects are found under --

000 – Computer science, Library and Information science & general work
100 – Philosophy and psychology
200 – Religion
300 – Social sciences
400 – Language
500 – Science
600 – Technology
700 – Arts
800 – Literature
900 – History, geography & biography

I'll prepare your next quiz. :)

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:01 AM
323.01
322.5
323.5

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:01 AM
Righto- Wondergirl ^^ Oh and thank you I am feeling a bit better now.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:03 AM
322.5
323.01
323.05
I hope this is right.
Wait so these numbers are for social sciences?

dontknownuthin
Jan 2, 2013, 12:09 AM
How to be more positive and come up with a list of positive things:

For example, instead of deflecting someone complimenting you on doing well no the quiz as you did above ("I'm not a natural..."), try this: "Thank you for the nice compliment! I'd be glad to try the harder question...bring it on!"

There's no reason to be embarrassed that you know how to do some things. For example you could start with:

- I enjoy reading and writing
- I am computer literate

Don't overthink it... just write down everything good you can think of about yourself. When you start thinking negatively, read the list and try to think about the good things about you.

Also stop thinking of fixable problems as permanent conditions. Instead of "I'm Obese" how about, "I'm making progress on my weight loss goals". Of course, you have to make that effort but as soon as you start working on it, you'll be making progress.

And some things, like being shy, are not bad things. Read up on the advantages of shyness - there are many.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:16 AM
Wait so these numbers are for social sciences?
Yes. You want some from sports or job hunting? :)

I tricked you -- the correct order is

322.5
323.01
323.5 (not .05)

Be sure to read the number correctly. I used to confuse 322 and 323 for some reason.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:22 AM
How to be more positive and come up with a list of positive things:

For example, instead of deflecting someone complimenting you on doing well no the quiz as you did above ("I'm not a natural..."), try this: "Thank you for the nice compliment! I'd be glad to try the harder question...bring it on!"

There's no reason to be embarassed that you know how to do some things. For example you could start with:

- I enjoy read and writing
- I am computer literate

Don't overthink it...just write down everything good you can think of about yourself. when you start thinking negatively, read the list and try to think about the good things about you.

Also stop thinking of fixable problems as permanent conditions. Instead of "I'm Obese" how about, "I'm making progress on my weight loss goals". Of course, you have to make that effort but as soon as you start working on it, you'll be making progress.

And some things, like being shy, are not bad things. Read up on the advantages of shyness - there are many.

Those so called "advantages" doesn't seem so great at all compared to the more outgoing counterparts, which by the way are praised in society than more introverted, shy individuals. When have you ever seen a job posting say they wanted shy introverted individuals?

- I enjoy reading. Ok.
-I am computer illiterate. All right.

But millions of people enjoy reading and is damn near every teenager that has a computer is "computer illiterate" that doesn't mean anything to any employers that anyone else doesn't have.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:24 AM
See I don't want to do this anymore. I made a freakin mistake that could have causes a business millions. I couldn't even do that right and had plenty of time.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:24 AM
Should I tell you about my shy, introverted autistic son who has happily shelved books (and done other stuff once he got his feet wet) at a public library for 23 years?

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:25 AM
If you want to.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:26 AM
See I don't want to do this anymore. I made a freakin mistake that could of causes a business millions. I couldn't even do that right and had plenty of time.
In a public library, it won't cost anyone any money, you will not be beaten in the alleyway, and it is easily corrected.

Now that you know the pitfall, do this one --

649.2
649.07
649.003

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:31 AM
649.2
649.07
649.003

Is that it?

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:33 AM
So uhh what other stuff has your son done besides shelving books?

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:34 AM
649.2
649.07
649.003

is that it?
Not quite. Pretend there are zeros after each number to make the string an even length.

649.200
649.070
649.003

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:38 AM
so uhh what other stuff has your son done besides shelving books?
He has helped set up the meeting room for events, he has filed various things for the circulation clerks, he has shelved reference books, he has taught patrons how to use some of the equipment back when there were microfilm readers, and he has taken "lost" patrons to the reference desk for help. He hates talking to strangers and even to coworkers, and usually minds his own business, but keeps the books neat and in good order..

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:40 AM
If I could hire you, I'd probably even consider you to do copy cataloging. Then you would work in tech services (away from patrons), sitting at a computer, and would enter library materials into the library database.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:41 AM
See I give up this is too hard. Yeah what happen to being a "natural?" yeah right.

Is this it?

649.003
649.070
649.200

Gawd, I hate math.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:41 AM
Beautiful!!

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:46 AM
For the stuff he was doing you need an "eye for detail" and good organizational skills right? That's not me at all. But I thank you for saying you'd hire me not I guess I'm hopeless at all.
Don't really know what copy cataloging is though. But the getting away from people sounds pretty decent.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:49 AM
Our deaf page shelved only fiction books. She hated math, so we let Shawn shelve the non-fiction (he LOVED decimals). Libraries are pretty flexible.

Do you have a non-fiction book handy near you? I want you to look inside it at something.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:54 AM
For the stuff he was doing you need an "eye for detail" and good organizational skills right?
He learned how to be that way as he worked as a page. He has now become the best bathroom and kitchen and cat litter box cleaner I have ever known here at home, outdoing even me!

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:55 AM
I have a book but it's not from a library I don't think. It's called Principles of Anatomy and Physiology by Geard J Tortora & Bryan Derrickson.

I don't really hate math I actually prefer it over all subjects in school but was never good at it so I never really tried.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:56 AM
He learned how to be that way as he worked as a page. He has now become the best bathroom and kitchen and cat litter box cleaner I have ever known here at home, outdoing even me!

Haha. That's funny.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 12:56 AM
I have a book but it's not from a library I don't think. It's called Principles of Anatomy and Physiology by Geard J Tortora & Bryan Derrickson.
It doesn't have to be a library book. Open the book to the title page (shows title, authors, publisher and is on the right-hand side, is the right-hand page). Okay? Found it?

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 12:57 AM
Yeah I see it

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 01:02 AM
Turn the page to look at the back of the title page. It's called the verso (i.e. back). Look down maybe 3/4 of the way toward the bottom. Do you see a Dewey Decimal number? It should be in the 600s.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 01:05 AM
Ohhh uhh never mind I don't see what you mean

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 01:07 AM
ohhh uhh nevermind I dont see what you mean
Sometimes textbooks don't show a number. It's in little print too, if it's there. (maybe LC: QP34.5; Dewey: 612?? )

It's after to a.m. here in Chicagoland, and I really must go to bed. See you tomorrow sometime?

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 01:08 AM
Sure. Of course ^^

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 01:10 AM
Sure. Of course ^^
Oh, goody, goody! Sleep well!

Enigma1999
Jan 2, 2013, 02:04 AM
Honestly, you better start changing your ways if you want to make it out in the real world...

I cannot think of ANY jobs that you would feel comfortable with.

What I mean by that, is stop cutting yourself so short. You may have much potential and not even realize that because you are being so pessimistic.

Try to focus on the more positive things about you.

None of us are perfect, however, if we don't try, then how will we know what we have to offer?

I see that you are making an effort on here, which is a good start. I bet you didn't even think that this thread would have gone this way where people are really trying to help you as much as they have, and see... you are doing well with that. So... keep it up.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 03:00 AM
What I mean by that, is stop cutting yourself so short. You may have much potential and not even realize that because you are being so pessimistic.

Try to focus on the more positive things about you.

None of us are perfect, however, if we don't try, then how will we know what we have to offer?

I see that you are making an effort on here, which is a good start. I bet you didn't even think that this thread would have gone this way where people are really trying to help you as much as they have, and see....you are doing well with that. So...keep it up.


Yes, I never would have imagined that I would get this many replies. I thank all of you. I'll try and find any positives in myself but having no sort of revenue coming in or even accomplishing anything in my life is killing me but I know it's all my fault. I mean I even applied to places like MC Donald, cleaning floors, and dishwashing, things that don't really require experience but I can't get an interview for those. But I'll take anything to get some money.

Some of the jobs I would prefer if I had the choose would be manufacturing, warehouse, or construction. Or an entry level job in railroad. That would be cool. Something physical that would get me sweating or tired. Package handling for Fedex or UPS would be perfect but no openings. When I turn 21 and get my DL I will try and apply to become a garbage collector for awhile. Stuff like that. Right now I'm trying to teach myself some Programming Languages, right now JavaScript and Python.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 2, 2013, 03:15 AM
Practice, find someone that will role play, next make some interviews, go back and ask about jobs.

I got one job once, because every Friday about 5 pm I went in and asked about a job, I did it for 6 weeks, on week 7 they hired me.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 03:21 AM
Practice, find someone that will role play, next make some interviews, go back and ask about jobs.

I got one job once, because every Friday about 5 pm I went in and asked about a job, I did it for 6 weeks, on week 7 they hired me.

So go to some random business and keep asking for employment? For some of the places I asked (about 5) that had Now hiring signed told me I have to apply online. Did, no answer but I guess I'll have to keep at it. Thank you for the help.

despicableme
Jan 2, 2013, 03:25 AM
I'm going to sleep.. I'll give a posting of the jobs I applied to later on this afternoon or tonight.

Wondergirl
Jan 2, 2013, 08:18 AM
Be sure to apply everywhere that appeals to you, even if no hiring sign is visible. Many businesses hire from within or by asking current employees if they know of anyone looking for work, but don't advertise outright. I have helped people with resumes since 1985, so we can tweak yours (but don't post personal info here) and put together a cover letter, if you wish.

When do you turn 21, and how well can you get around to job hunt?

Enigma1999
Jan 2, 2013, 09:18 AM
Also realize that at this point in time it is hard for most people to find a job. Any job.

So don't feel discouraged if it takes time.

You are very young and have your whole life ahead of you.

I have noticed that you write very well. You have nice verbage, spelling, grammar and punctuation.

That's a start!

dontknownuthin
Jan 2, 2013, 09:59 AM
Yes - know that the job market is tough and do not take rejections personally. It will take time. If you aren't getting responses to your resume or applications, seek out help in tweeking the way you are presenting yourself. And you hit on one thing - volunteering - in your original question. You haven't done much, well, do more. If you worked at a soup kitchen it would be relevant to a job in a restaurant. If you worked on a Habitat for Humanity project it would be relevant to getting work in construction. Help planning an event at church, and it will also be relevant to organizing events for a business.

Target who you want to work for and ask around if anyone you know has connections there, and whether they could put a good word in for you or hand-deliver your resume or application to the hiring managers. Do any of your friends have jobs where you would like to work? Ask if they are hiring and see if the friends will help you.

You do have to apply through the prescribed channels like websites but you can also work on jobs from additional angels. For example, say your friend works at Target - fill out the online application but also hand a copy of your resume, with a nice cover letter addressed to the manager of the store (find out their name - call the store and ask or it will be posted in the front of the store probably if you look), telling them that you want to work for Target, some reasons, and that you have applied formally through their process. Ask for an interview.

Here's a sample letter to give you a general idea (obviously it would be adjusted depending on the job and employer you are targetting):

Dear (name of manager):

I am a long-time customer of Target and have always been impressed by the quality of service and merchandize that you offer. As I prepare to enter the workforce, Target stands out as my ideal potential employer and I will greatly appreciate your consideration.

I am a 20 year old, entry-level worker but have a great deal to offer. First, I very much want to work, succeed and grow with my employer. My hope would be to secure an entry-level position with you, prove myself over time and earn the opportunity to train one day for a role in management. I will accept any work and be grateful for it.

Among my most relevant qualifications are:
- High school diploma
- Computer literacy
- A strong work ethic
- Loyalty, maturity, timeliness and reliability
- A positive, can-do attitude

I understand that Target utilizes online application processes and have submitted my application through your website. I wished to additionally reach out, as I imagine thousands likely apply. My good friend, Joe Smith, was kind enough to offer deliver this letter to you so that I can personally ask for an interview, and express my sincere interest in working for you. Thank you for considering my request.

Warmest regards

Your name
Phone number
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Enigma1999
Jan 2, 2013, 11:35 AM
yes - know that the job market is tough and do not take rejections personally. It will take time. If you aren't getting responses to your resume or applications, seek out help in tweeking the way you are presenting yourself. And you hit on one thing - volunteering - in your original question. You haven't done much, well, do more. If you worked at a soup kitchen it would be relevant to a job in a restaurant. If you worked on a Habitat for Humanity project it would be relevant to getting work in construction. Help planning an event at church, and it will also be relevant to organizing events for a business.

Target who you want to work for and ask around if anyone you know has connections there, and whether they could put a good word in for you or hand-deliver your resume or application to the hiring managers. Do any of your friends have jobs where you would like to work? Ask if they are hiring and see if the friends will help you.

You do have to apply through the prescribed channels like websites but you can also work on jobs from additional angels. For example, say your friend works at Target - fill out the online application but also hand a copy of your resume, with a nice cover letter addressed to the manager of the store (find out their name - call the store and ask or it will be posted in the front of the store probably if you look), telling them that you want to work for Target, some reasons why, and that you have applied formally through their process. Ask for an interview.

Here's a sample letter to give you a general idea (obviously it would be adjusted depending on the job and employer you are targetting):

Dear (name of manager):

I am a long-time customer of Target and have always been impressed by the quality of service and merchandize that you offer. As I prepare to enter the workforce, Target stands out as my ideal potential employer and I will greatly appreciate your consideration.

I am a 20 year old, entry-level worker but have a great deal to offer. First, I very much want to work, succeed and grow with my employer. My hope would be to secure an entry-level position with you, prove myself over time and earn the opportunity to train one day for a role in management. I will accept any work and be grateful for it.

Among my most relevant qualifications are:
- High school diploma
- Computer literacy
- A strong work ethic
- Loyalty, maturity, timeliness and reliability
- A positive, can-do attitude

I understand that Target utilizes online application processes and have submitted my application through your website. I wished to additionally reach out, as I imagine thousands likely apply. My good friend, Joe Smith, was kind enough to offer deliver this letter to you so that I can personally ask for an interview, and express my sincere interest in working for you. Thank you for considering my request.

Warmest regards

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Well done!

See, youDOknowsomething! ;)

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 03:37 PM
Internet was cut off these past days...

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 03:44 PM
internet was cut off these past days...
So what have you been up to? Any progress?

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 03:45 PM
yes - know that the job market is tough and do not take rejections personally. It will take time. If you aren't getting responses to your resume or applications, seek out help in tweeking the way you are presenting yourself. And you hit on one thing - volunteering - in your original question. You haven't done much, well, do more. If you worked at a soup kitchen it would be relevant to a job in a restaurant. If you worked on a Habitat for Humanity project it would be relevant to getting work in construction. Help planning an event at church, and it will also be relevant to organizing events for a business.

Target who you want to work for and ask around if anyone you know has connections there, and whether they could put a good word in for you or hand-deliver your resume or application to the hiring managers. Do any of your friends have jobs where you would like to work? Ask if they are hiring and see if the friends will help you.

You do have to apply through the prescribed channels like websites but you can also work on jobs from additional angels. For example, say your friend works at Target - fill out the online application but also hand a copy of your resume, with a nice cover letter addressed to the manager of the store (find out their name - call the store and ask or it will be posted in the front of the store probably if you look), telling them that you want to work for Target, some reasons why, and that you have applied formally through their process. Ask for an interview.

Here's a sample letter to give you a general idea (obviously it would be adjusted depending on the job and employer you are targetting):

Dear (name of manager):

I am a long-time customer of Target and have always been impressed by the quality of service and merchandize that you offer. As I prepare to enter the workforce, Target stands out as my ideal potential employer and I will greatly appreciate your consideration.

I am a 20 year old, entry-level worker but have a great deal to offer. First, I very much want to work, succeed and grow with my employer. My hope would be to secure an entry-level position with you, prove myself over time and earn the opportunity to train one day for a role in management. I will accept any work and be grateful for it.

Among my most relevant qualifications are:
- High school diploma
- Computer literacy
- A strong work ethic
- Loyalty, maturity, timeliness and reliability
- A positive, can-do attitude

I understand that Target utilizes online application processes and have submitted my application through your website. I wished to additionally reach out, as I imagine thousands likely apply. My good friend, Joe Smith, was kind enough to offer deliver this letter to you so that I can personally ask for an interview, and express my sincere interest in working for you. Thank you for considering my request.

Warmest regards

Your name
Phone number
email address

Thanks for the cover letter idea! Along with my resume, a cover letter is something I'm struggling with immensely.. I don't have any friends or know any family members that I can use as a connection so don't know how that's going to work out but I'll see.

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 03:46 PM
So what have you been up to? Any progress?

Umm, not really no. I applied to a bunch of jobs but that was it. I don't know what else to do really.

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 03:49 PM
Oh, I'm going to this resume writing class in a few days and a bunch of recruitment fairs are coming up in a few more days so wait for that? Don't know.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 03:54 PM
You will want to have a functional resume, not a chronological one -- in other words, you want to focus on what you can do, not where you have worked (thus showing lack of work background). And P.S. Volunteer experience DOES count!

What are you good at? And yes, you are good at things. I know that already.

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 03:58 PM
Uhh... that's the problem... how am I suppose to know? I'm being dead serious here. I seriously have no clue. My parent's look at me like I have two heads if I ask them that question. My sisters are no help either.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:01 PM
Well, we know you are a good writer and communicate well in writing. You are an eager learner and, when corrected, try harder to fix things. I could probably put together a basic resume for you. What did you do as a volunteer?

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:06 PM
Umm... now or in the past years.. Because helping package boxes, labeling them, and stacking 'em on pallets to be pulled away by the forklift is the most recent volunteer "experience" that I have acquired. Sometimes a few instances as one of the bell ringers outside and some other stuff from high school.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:08 PM
Make a list of all those, with years if you can, but not necessary.

How about any of these (or add new ones you think of that fit) --

SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATIONS

Offer professional-quality administrative assistant skills and excellent work ethic
Possess effective interpersonal and communication skills
Quickly comprehend new methods and procedures
Am proficient, loyal, thorough
Work well independently and also effectively within team environments
Possess very strong problem-solving skills
Have basic computer knowledge

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:14 PM
Oh! What do you think is a good excuse as to why I haven't had any volunteer experience at my age? That would seem strange for some 20 year old to get their first job, no? If excluding ages 14-15, (babysitting, paperboy/girl etc.. ) starting at age 16 theirs a gap of 4 years I could have been working a job. Theirs just no excuse right?

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:16 PM
You don't have to list volunteering and/or jobs by year that would show a gap. There are ways around that. STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE!! Work with me here.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:19 PM
What have you been doing for those four years?

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:20 PM
Thanks! That looks pretty good wondergirl. So I got two volunteer experience to put on my resume what else? I am looking on my own also just asking for input.

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:27 PM
What have you been doing for those four years?

Basically nothing. The only interesting things I could put was I was in First Robotics competition. Helped build robot, worked with various saws, drill presses, measuring tape, blah blah blah worked with things you can find in a metal shop.

Along with 2 other classmates we helped our principal get funding for a new room.

Participated in this DeCA program , forgot what is was about.

And some other stuff I cannot remember because it was back in high-school.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:28 PM
Do you type fast? Speed? Accurately?
Which computer programs are you familiar with? Word? Excel? Any art software or programs?

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:31 PM
Basically nothing. The only interesting things I could put was I was in First Robotics competition. Helped build robot, worked with various saws, drill presses, measuring tape, blah blah blah worked with things you can find in a metal shop.

Along with 2 other classmates we helped our principal get funding for a new room.
Very important!!

Participated in this DeCA program , forgot what is was about.
Can you find out more?

And some other stuff I cannot remember because it was back in high-school.
Remember or call the high school or ask someone who might remember -- a parent?

Methinks you are much too hard on yourself!

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:31 PM
Do you type fast? speed? accurately?
Which computer programs are you familiar with? Word? Excel? any art software or programs?

I can type somewhat quickly but my spelling is absolutely atrocious. I am family with word, excel, photoshop but that's about it. Doesn't mean I can't learn about it though. Right now I'm trying to teach myself JavaScript and HTML, Python. I can code some stuff but I'm no pro.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:35 PM
I can type somewhat quickly but my spelling is absolutely atrocious. I am family with word, excel, photoshop but that's about it. Doesn't mean I can't learn about it though. Right now I'm trying to teach myself JavaScript and HTML, Python. I can code some stuff but I'm no pro.
But with a Spell Check program...

I do know you are a quick learner.

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:39 PM
Very important!!!

Can you find out more?

Remember or call the high school or ask someone who might remember -- a parent?

Methinks you are much too hard on yourself!

For Deca it was this competitive event where you dress professionally and learn about entrepreneurship, and careers in hospitality and tourism, business, and finance. You also play team building/leadership exercises and at the end you meet with a bunch of high level people for connections to jobs. You also do practice interviews. At the end there was this competition.

I lost all contact with any friends, coworkers, principals because they merged with another school and almost all the teachers that knew me left.

As for the funding, we sat and listed to this board meeting and then the 3 of us students spoke about why we should get the funding for our school. We got it by the way. XD

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:39 PM
I can picture an interesting resume in your future.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:44 PM
Something like this sample, with your own information, of course (but skip the Job Objective section) --

http://www.careersearchdatabase.com/images/functional-resume.gif

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:45 PM
If you say so Wondergirl. I could have done so much more if I wasn't so shy, social anxious, and wasn't so damn lazy. If I had the social skills my classmates had.. everything would have been totally different. All my teachers liked me and would have given me school recommendations on the spot but I never bothered to ask and did the bare minimum to get by. If I bothered to improve my writing skills essays for scholarships would have been a breeze.

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:46 PM
Something like this sample, with your own information, of course (but skip the Job Objective section) --

http://www.careersearchdatabase.com/images/functional-resume.gif

Right-O. I will make this resume but all of the things I've done are looong in the past. Why should it matter now? It's not relevant now.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:47 PM
That was then; this is now. And you have me in your corner (along with others here). No regrets. Let's move forward.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:48 PM
Right-O. I will make this resume but all of the things I've done are looong in the past. Why should it matter now? It's not relevant now.
You are only 20 years old. Yes, it's all relevant!! I will pound that into your head if I have to! Your previous experiences show a lot about you.

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 04:52 PM
Fine! You win, jeez. Lol Oh and I should have mentioned I have worked some but since it was only for 3 months I didn't count it.

It was this cashiering gig, but it was only for 3 months so I don't think it'll count.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 04:56 PM
Fine! You win, jeez. lol Oh and I should have mentioned I have worked some but since it was only for 3 months I didn't count it.

It was this cashiering gig, but it was only for 3 months so I dont think it'll count.
Let's include it. Were you comfortable handling money? What didn't you like about it?

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 05:04 PM
Let's include it. Were you comfortable handling money? What didn't you like about it?

I was comfortable handling the money at times but I didn't like it at all. At times I would break down and cry because I would go to slow and the customers would make a remark about it. Money handling was absolutely boring me to death. The manager wasn't ever there and the cash register didn't work. But it was boring most of the time. The only reason I left was because a fomer employee was selling drugs, and the manger was in on it. After they shot up the place they closed it down for good.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 05:15 PM
But you know you can handle money. It's more the stress of dealing with people that's not good for you. Right?

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 05:21 PM
But you know you can handle money. It's more the stress of dealing with people that's not good for you. Right?

Right. I don't want a job right now having to sell or face customers. That's why I wanted a job like being a room attendant in a hotel or an inventory associate or a dishwasher, something I can focus without having to worry about a rude customer or keeping up with selling goals stuff like that.

Wondergirl
Jan 3, 2013, 05:23 PM
Want to put together a basic resume before your workshop?

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 05:25 PM
Want to put together a basic resume before your workshop?

Oh god yes please.

despicableme
Jan 3, 2013, 05:31 PM
Crappers. I'm so sorry, I got to go. My sister needs me to watch her kids for her so she can work. I'll be back later. Please don't be mad >.<

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 12:03 AM
I put together a resume, so I'll post it on Friday and we can talk about it. Nuts, will post it here (the Word version looks a bit nicer) --


ABBY LANE
123 North Avenue
Oshkosh, WI 12345
(555) 555-5555
[email protected]

SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATIONS

Offer professional-quality administrative assistant skills and an excellent work ethic
Possess proven history of reliability and punctuality
Quickly comprehend and follow established procedures and safety rules
Am responsible, detail-oriented, dependable, and have excellent time-management skills.
Work well independently and and in a team environment
Possess very strong problem-solving skills
Have basic computer knowledge (Word, Excel, PhotoShop) and am teaching myself JavaScript, HTML, and Python

SPECIAL PROJECTS

Robotics competition -- helped build robot, worked with various saws, drill presses, measuring tape, and other tools/equipment in the high school metal shop.
* Made sure everyone worked at high-safety levels when using various dangerous tools
* Focused on high degree of accuracy when measuring with ruler and measuring tape to cut the right amount of materials, used special markers to note where to drill holes, made sure all parts were correctly located
* Communicated effectively with classmates and faculty to create and draw plan for robot

Warehouse Worker/Package handler, Wisconsin Food Harvest
*Coordinated with other workers to package foods into the correct containers and label them correctly
* Ensured all food was stacked neatly on pallets before being moved by forklift

DECA member (international association of high school and college students and teachers of marketing, management, and entrepreneurship in business, finance, hospitality, and marketing sales and service) -- dressed professionally, learned about entrepreneurship and careers in hospitality/tourism/business/finance, played team building/leadership exercises, practiced job interviewing, met with high-level professionals for connections to jobs.

Fund raising -- worked with two classmates to obtain funding for the high school principal for a new cooking room


WORK HISTORY

Child care -- implement parents' rules, gently discipline as necessary, engage them in specific learning activities, dispense medication per parents' instructions, feed them as needed, put them to bed as requested, help with other household chores.

Newspaper delivery – sorted and stuffed newspapers before delivery, distributed [daily newspaper?] to residences on a designated route and on schedule, engaged in monetary transactions with customers and central newspaper office, maintained customer accounts.


EDUCATION

ABC High School, Oshkosh, WI (2008)

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 06:52 AM
Everyone is amazing helping me though.. If I had to get the chance meet you I'd be so honored and greateful.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 07:19 AM
Everyone is amazing helping me though..If I had to get the chance meet ya'll i'd be so honored and greateful.
Ya look pretty darn good, doncha! I can remove or tweak any of the points that refer to customer service skills.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 07:28 AM
So many jobs I see I know I can do/have an interest in but either have no social skills for it,too far away, or have no experience it just not fair at all. Lmao. My cousin is even the hiring manager for the casino I want to work for and still can't get in. I just simply suck.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 09:52 AM
You're only 20 years old. You're not supposed to have experience! And there are tons of jobs that don't demand social skills. Like I mentioned, the library jobs as a page and even in tech services doing copy cataloging or processing of library materials or helping out with the homebound book delivery program as a "mule" (carrying the books into nursing homes and old people's homes, and then gathering up the books to be returned and hauling them out). Maybe consider being a library volunteer or even an unpaid intern somewhere. One autistic (very non verbal) guy I know has a job in an Amazon warehouse and loves it!

May I ask which state are you in and even a city (i.e. library close to you)? I will call them to find out about their work situation and volunteer possibilities.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 11:06 AM
I live in Milwaukee, WI but please don't call or do anything you're already helping too much >.< I don't want to waste your time at all. :/ That Amazon warehouse job sounds awesome. Amazon was hiring once but it was in Madison. Waaay too far.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 12:13 PM
News flash -- I called the Milwaukee PL reference desk and asked about page jobs (you have to be a student in high school or college), so that is out. Their website has .pdf applications for employment and volunteer, but nothing sounds like your kind of thing at the main library right now. She said you should call various suburban library branches that you'd be able to get to, since each have their own needs and job openings. BUT, she told me that they highly recommend this particular job site, so give it a look --

Milwaukee, Wisconsin Jobs & Careers (http://www.milwaukeejobs.com/)

This one sort of sounds like it might be down your alley, but not sure if the location would work for you -- under Warehouse --

Position: 836 Warehouse Attendant
Company: Caterpillar
Job Location(s): South Milwaukee, WI
Start Date: As soon as possible

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 12:43 PM
Yeah that's too bad I got accepted into community college but I can't go yet until March I think.. I don't really know for sure haven't asked but I did need to register for classes. :/

Wooooaah location isn't that bad since it's in Milwaukee but this job sounds like it's for a very strong man with experience in those type of heavy machine. I don't think its right for me at the moment even if the experience is "open."

But seriously though what- I'm speechless your doing so much for some loser online. Thank you. Now need to do my part.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 01:26 PM
I'm applying to this job need help fixing resume it's kind of long xD Want it sound kind of general laborish so I have a chance.
I also see Ups hiring for package handlers in Oak Creek, so I'm crossing my toes to get that.

https://interview.harqen.com/interviewnow/11055/2799

Requirements they need that I have/had done in the past :
pays close attention to detail has proven history of reliability and punctuality. good attendance able to follow procedure and safety rules, read, understand, and follow direction / instruction.


ABBY LANE
123 North Avenue
Oshkosh, WI 12345
(555) 555-5555
[email protected]

Recent high-school graduate offering versatile skills-set to apply to an entry-level position in warehouse. Stronger planner and problem solver that adapts readily in face paced blah blah blah Able to juggle multiple projects blah blah blah work as well in teams... blah blah blah ectt.. etc..

SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATIONS

Offer professional-quality administrative assistant skills and an excellent work ethic
Possess effective interpersonal and communication skills
Quickly comprehend and absorb new methods and procedures
Am responsible, organized, dependable, and have excellent time-management skills.
Work well independently and also effectively within team environments
Possess very strong problem-solving skills
Have basic computer knowledge (Word, Excel, PhotoShop) and am teaching myself JavaScript, HTML, and Python



Skills

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Experience:

Robotics competition -- helped build robot, worked with various saws, drill presses, measuring tape, and other tools/equipment in the high school metal shop.

Highlights:

Maintained and taught blah blah high-levels of safety when working around various dangerous tools... blah blah blah

(I'm trying to say that I worked careful when around tools and materials and when other kids were playing around them I would help them what to do if one of the staff members weren't there to help and made sure there was no playing around (cuz one time before someone got a piece of their index figure cut off playing around drill) when it was on or there weren't anything near the machine to jam it.)

Focused high degree of accuracy when measuring with ruler, and measuring tape cutting the right amount or materials, using markers to make place where I drill holes and stuff, made sure all parts where in their correct location.

(I'm trying to say that have attention to detail and stuff)

Communicated effectively with team members and staffs to plan outline of robot,
(Trying to say I worked well with other team members and that I can think creatively to help draw outline of the bot. blah blah blah) And some other stuff

Wisconsin Food Harvest ( inside Warehouse)
Package Handling

Worked in warehouse to ensure all food was packaged and labeled correctly stacked neatly on pallets to be shipped away by forklift... blah blah blah

Coordinated with other volunteers to assemble packaged foods into their right containers.. blah blah blah

Stacked neatly on pallets to be shipped away by forklift... blah blah blah

(basically trying to make it sound more important that it actually was.


Special Projects:

DECA member (international association of high school and college students and teachers of marketing, management, and entrepreneurship in business, finance, hospitality, and marketing sales and service) -- dressed professionally, learned about entrepreneurship and careers in hospitality/tourism/business/finance, played team building/leadership exercises, practiced job interviewing, met with high-level professionals for connections to jobs.

Fund raising -- worked with two classmates to obtain funding for the high school principal for a new room cooking room.

EDUCATION
~~~~~~~~~

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 03:14 PM
Adjusted and edited and tweaked. Do we need to tweak more? Did you deliver a daily or weekly newspaper -- have to add that yet.


ABBY LANE
123 North Avenue
Oshkosh, WI 12345
(555) 555-5555
[email protected]

SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATIONS

Offer professional-quality administrative assistant skills and an excellent work ethic
Am responsible, punctual, dependable, and have excellent time-management skills.
Quickly comprehend and follow established procedures and safety rules
Work well independently and and in a team environment
Possess very strong problem-solving skills
Have basic computer knowledge (Word, Excel, PhotoShop) and am teaching myself JavaScript, HTML, and Python

SPECIAL PROJECTS

Robotics competition -- helped build robot, worked with various saws, drill presses, measuring tape, and other tools/equipment in the high school metal shop.
* Made sure everyone worked at high-safety levels when using various dangerous tools
* Focused on high degree of accuracy when measuring with ruler and measuring tape to cut the right amount of materials, used special markers to note where to drill holes, made sure all parts were correctly located
* Communicated effectively with classmates and faculty to create and draw plan for robot

Warehouse worker/Package handler, Wisconsin Food Harvest
* Coordinated with other workers to package foods into the correct containers and label them correctly
* Ensured all food was stacked neatly on pallets before being moved by forklift

DECA member (international association of high school and college students and teachers of marketing, management, and entrepreneurship in business, finance, hospitality, and marketing sales and service) -- dressed professionally, learned about entrepreneurship and careers in hospitality/tourism/business/finance, played team building/leadership exercises, practiced job interviewing, met with high-level professionals for connections to jobs.

Fund raising -- worked with two classmates to obtain funding for the high school principal for a new cooking room


WORK HISTORY

Child care -- implement parents' rules, gently discipline as necessary, engage them in specific learning activities, dispense medication per parents' instructions, feed them as needed, put them to bed as requested, help with other household chores.

Newspaper delivery – sorted and stuffed newspapers before delivery, distributed to residences on a designated route and on schedule, engaged in monetary transactions with customers and central newspaper office, maintained customer accounts.


EDUCATION

ABC High School, Oshkosh, WI (2008)

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 03:26 PM
Nope. I never did that. Lol.Didn't know you could actually. It seems to me that no one reads the new paper anymore. XD Meh it looks fine.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 04:24 PM
Nope. I never did that. lol.Didn't know you could actually. It seems to me that no one reads the new paper anymore. xD Meh it looks fine.
Daily or weekly newspaper that you delivered?

You never did what?

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 05:17 PM
Daily or weekly newspaper that you delivered?

You never did what?

That daily weekly newspapers that you were talking about. Lol. Sigh and I'm so giddy, excited, and happy right now. I like someone very much he may or may not like me back but he's just so wonderful. And feel very good about jobs now that my resume looks decent. Goodness this feeling is wonderful haven't felt like this in a looong time. Oh and umm, I see a posting for Goodwill that I applied too a long time ago and got an intriew but I screwed up the questions badly because of very bad anxiety and they never called me back. Should I apply again and hope they won't remember me? Lol

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 05:30 PM
Should I remove the newspaper delivery girl section?

So the resume otherwise is good?

Yes, reapply for the Goodwill job. Too bad I can't role-play with you on the phone. I'd turn you into Miss Personality.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 05:42 PM
Should I remove the newspaper delivery girl section?

So the resume otherwise is good?

Yes, reapply for the Goodwill job. Too bad I can't role-play with you on the phone. I'd turn you into Miss Personality.

Yep. The resume is fine now.

Oh and please on the phone I'm worse than in person. No matter how much I prepare I can't seem to stop the nerves in interviews. I had 10+ interviews before and they all were failures.

I forget my lines or say something stupid because I'm taking to long to respond. -.- It feels more like an interrogation than a supposedly "conversation." I get so worked up and all I can think is "Why am I here?" "Why does this person keep asking me all these questions!?" " "I need to escape."

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 07:22 PM
My younger son had come over with Arby's, so we sat here for two hours chatting. He just left, so I am back with you.

Would you be okay in an interview regarding a warehouse job, knowing you could handle the work?

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 07:25 PM
Yes

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 07:26 PM
Wondergirl I need help with something.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 07:28 PM
Wondergirl I need help with something.
Hit me with it!

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 07:30 PM
..

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 07:32 PM
And?

Where do I come in?

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 07:34 PM
And?

Where do I come in?

I don't know I'm sorry. Forget about it. I don't need help with anything right now. I'll just go to sleep now. This entire thing is depressing me and spoke without thinking. I'm stupid OK. It happens a lot.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 07:37 PM
I don't know I'm sorry. Forget about it. I don't need help with anything right now.
I'm more than glad to help. Haven't I proven that? Let me know what I can do.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 07:38 PM
Oh, and you have shown me that you are anything but stupid. Let me know what I can do. You have asked no question for me so far.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 07:41 PM
I'm more than glad to help. Haven't I proven that? Let me know what I can do.

Unless you can build a time machine and stop me from being born back send me back in June 2011. Then I don't think you or anyone can help. I need some cash, maybe I can find a way to sell myself on the streets.. I don't know.

The question is then how can I stop feeling so guilty about everything? Everything single thing in my life was a failure.and now the thing I want most is fading fast because I'm so stupid to do anything about it.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 07:41 PM
Unless you can build a time machine and stop me from being born back send me back in June 2011. Then I don't think you or anyone can help. I need some cash, maybe I can find a way to sell myself on the streets.. i dont know.
Tell me more.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 07:45 PM
I don't know what you mean.

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 07:54 PM
I don't know what you mean.
Your comments were quite puzzling, so am wondering what has happened, what the situation is.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 08:03 PM
Your comments were quite puzzling, so am wondering what has happened, what the situation is.

Long story short.. I now have a time to when I have to get a job or else I know I'm going to end up feeling much worse than I am now. Maybe not suicidal but damn near. I'm constantly feeling guilty over things in the past, so many wasted opportunities, and when the end comes it's going to be all my fault. I can't save anyone but was hoping too so badly because I don't know nothing else.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 08:09 PM
I'm going to take a nap, I'm not making any sense. I'm not going to worry about my main focus is getting a job I wasted enough time as it is

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 08:12 PM
I'm going to take a nap, i'm not making any sense. I'm not going to worry about my main focus is getting a job i wasted enough time as it is
I'm here for you.

despicableme
Jan 4, 2013, 08:14 PM
I'm here for you.

I know that why I'm going to sleep to shake this off. It's strange and complicated. So in the morning or maybe late in the night I'll finish applying to jobs and other stuff..

Wondergirl
Jan 4, 2013, 08:17 PM
I'm constantly feeling guilty over things in the past, so many wasted opportunities, and when the end comes it's going to be all my fault.
You're 20, not 70. Get some sleep and we can talk more when you wake up.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 10:17 AM
You're 20, not 70. Get some sleep and we can talk more when you wake up.

Lol. I hope I die before than. *shrugs*

Don't know what to do now.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 10:39 AM
lol. I hope I die before than. *shrugs*

Don't know what to do now.
Please tell me what is going on.

excon
Jan 5, 2013, 10:50 AM
Hello d:

Although the reasons were different, I had trouble getting a job. So I said screw it, and went into business for myself... Here's an easy one for you... Go to an auction in your home town.. Buy some stuff, and sell it on Ebay. You don't have to talk to ANYBODY to do that business...

excon

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 11:48 AM
Hello d:

Although the reasons were different, I had trouble getting a job. So I said screw it, and went into business for myself... Here's an easy one for you... Go to an auction in your home town.. Buy some stuff, and sell it on Ebay. You don't have to talk to ANYBODY to do that business...

excon

What? Buy what? I have to ask my parents for bus money so I don't think I can go out and buy stuff from an auction.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 11:49 AM
Please tell me what is going on.

Nothing is going on, I'd just rather die before I get to age 70. I'll be fine dying at age 50 or so

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 11:54 AM
Nothing is going on, I'd just rather die before I get to age 70. I'll be fine dying at age 50 or so
So why did you throw out those comments last night about needing money and some unresolved situation? C'mon. 'Fess up.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 12:04 PM
So why did you throw out those comments last night about needing money and some unresolved situation? C'mon. Fess up.

It's nothing really, I'm just made at myself because I am lazy and doing nothing with my life. I'm stressing myself out because I want to meet this person but since I have no job nor making any money nor even trying.. it's getting me more upset.

And now I'm feeling extremely guilty because all I need is what a few hundred bucks? And can't even get that. Maybe if I find way to prostitute myself on Craigslist.

But I don't know, I just need a job and out of this country or at least this state. But that isn't never going to happen because I'm a lazy f-up.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 12:08 PM
I already know I'm not going to accomplish anything nor do I even want to anymore. Even if I get kicked out now, I won't do anything to better myself. There is no point.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 12:16 PM
You are feeling like this after that fantastic resume we put together yesterday? Are you the same person I used to know? And need money for what? Kicked out of where and why?

Enigma1999
Jan 5, 2013, 12:22 PM
Wow, this thread totally took a different toll.

Wasn't expecting this.

What is going on that you are not telling us?

Did you commit a crime in 2011, or get pregnant?

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 12:24 PM
You are feeling like this after that fantastic resume we put together yesterday? Are you the same person I used to know? And need money for what? Kicked out of where and why?

Yeah, I'm the same person.

$500 need that to go on a trip somewhere for awhile. Spend time away from my surroundings. It wasn't going to change anything but I was really looking forward to it. Had ample time to save but still in the same position I am right now.

Right now my parents are thinking of kicking me out if I don't get a job or do something with myself in a 3 months. Do you think I care? No, I do not at all. Those 3 months are going to pass and I'm just going to be doing the same I am now Nothing.

So why should I even bother doing anything?

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 12:25 PM
Wow, this thread totally took a different toll.

Wasn't expecting this.

What is going on that you are not telling us?

Did you commit a crime in 2011, or get pregnant?

I wish I did then it could be some sort of an excuse.

Enigma1999
Jan 5, 2013, 12:45 PM
I wish I did then it could be some sort of an excuse.

You had mentioned 2011. How come? What significance does that year have?

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 12:55 PM
You had mentioned 2011. How come? What significance does that year have?

Long story short this guy I really like online hung himself while we web camming each other. It was all my fault because I couldn't even get a job to come see him. Maybe If I wasn't so stupid & worthless I could have saved him and maybe he would have been alive today. Could have been happy or at least friends.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 12:58 PM
Now the same thing is happening again with another guy I like but this time.. I don't know I'm just a fool.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 01:01 PM
It was all my fault because I couldn't even get a job to come see him.
His death was NOT your fault. He had bigger problems than you could have dealt with or solved. He committed suicide on camera?

And why can't you get a job within three months, especially now that you have a killer resume and me (us) behind you?

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 01:02 PM
Now the same thing is happening again with another guy I like but this time..I dunno i'm just a fool.
Um, why can't the guy travel to see you?

Stop it with the self-denigrating comments, for pete's sake.

Enigma1999
Jan 5, 2013, 01:04 PM
Now the same thing is happening again with another guy I like but this time..I dunno i'm just a fool.

I am sorry for the loss of your friend, but I don't see how that is your fault.

Due to the fact this thread is taking a different route, I would like to ask you when you first started to feel this badly about yourself?

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 01:07 PM
His death was NOT your fault. He had bigger problems than you could have dealt with or solved. He committed suicide on camera?

And why can't you get a job within three months, especially now that you have a killer resume and me (us) behind you?

He wanted me to watch because he told me it was all my fault because I didn't see him. I thought he was just playing but I guess not. Sound unbeilveble huh?

To answer your second question I don't know I don't have an excuse this time.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 01:13 PM
Well I found put the place I had interviewed a long time ago for is hiring people but the man never called back and now I'm kind of afraid to call about just to be rejected. Do I apply again? Yeah I have issues with calling people.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 01:16 PM
Well i found put the place i had interviewed a long time ago for is hiring people but the man never called back and now im kinda afraid to call about just to be rejected. Do I apply again? Yeah I have issues with calling people.
You can apply there or at other places. There were lots of possibilities on that jobs board. You really need someone to role-play interviewing with you.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 01:17 PM
He wanted me to watch because he told me it was all my fault because I didn't see him. I thought he was just playing but I guess not. Sound unbeilveble huh?
I wonder if he really followed through. Sounds extremely manipulative and cruel.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 01:20 PM
You can apply there or at other places. There were lots of possibilities on that jobs board. You really need someone to role-play interviewing with you.

I know.. where can I find someone? With my sister it's not the same I need a professional or something I think.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 01:22 PM
Um, why can't the guy travel to see you?

Stop it with the self-denigrating comments, for pete's sake.

I don't know he never said so.

I can try but I can't make any promises.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 01:25 PM
I am sorry for the loss of your friend, but I don't see how that is your fault.

Due to the fact this thread is taking a different route, I would like to ask you when you first started to feel this badly about yourself?

I don't know I always felt badly about myself since high school but I guess it worsened after I left. I don't know I can never tell.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 01:31 PM
I know..where can I find someone? With my sister it's not the same I need a professional or something I think.
So let's find a professional to help you prep for this.

Enigma1999
Jan 5, 2013, 01:32 PM
I don't know I always felt badly about myself since highschool but I guess it worsened after I left. I dunno I can never tell.

Are your parents aware of your depression?

Listen, this goes deeper than not having or being able to find a job.

I believe that before you begin your search for a job, you need to speak to a your parents about your feelings. Yes, they want you to get a job, and I can understand that, however, if you do get a job, your employer and co workers will sense your depression.

You need to work on you first.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 01:40 PM
Are your parents aware of your depression?

Listen, this goes deeper than not having or being able to find a job.

I believe that before you begin your search for a job, you need to speek to a your parents about your feelings. Yes, they want you to get a job, and I can understand that, however, if you do get a job, your employer and co workers will sense your depression.

You need to work on you first.

I think so, but if so what can they do about it? Nothing as far as I can tell. I talked to them about feeling "worthless" and other stuff but they just told me that I'm young and everything is going to be OK.

And I'd rather have a job and be depressed than not have one. Plenty of people have jobs and are depressed. That's no excuse.

By having job I do work on myself. I need money FIRST than I work on myself.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 01:46 PM
I think so, but if so what can they do about it? Nothing as far as I can tell. I talked to them about feeling "worthless" and other stuff but they just told me that I'm young and everything is going to be ok.

And I'd rather have a job and be depressed than not have one. Plenty of people have jobs and are depressed. That's no excuse.

By having job I do work on myself. I need money FIRST than I work on myself.
Your parents have health insurance that probably still covers you and any counseling and medical care you would get. And tell them that no, it's NOT going to be okay. You want the chance to sit down with a counselor for at least three sessions. And no, you don't want a job and be depressed -- automatic failure because you'll end up losing the job, and then will feel even worse about yourself.

Enigma1999
Jan 5, 2013, 01:48 PM
I think so, but if so what can they do about it? Nothing as far as I can tell. I talked to them about feeling "worthless" and other stuff but they just told me that I'm young and everything is going to be ok.

And I'd rather have a job and be depressed than not have one. Plenty of people have jobs and are depressed. That's no excuse.

By having job I do work on myself. I need money FIRST than I work on myself.

True, however, you don't even want a job that requires ANY communication with people.

That's not real typical for a twenty year old.

The fact that you are also having web cam relationships and thinking you are "worthless" leads me to believe that you may be suffering from depression.

I doubt your parents know the severity of your situation.

You may need counseling.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 01:52 PM
Your parents have health insurance that probably still covers you and any counseling and medical care you would get. And tell them that no, it's NOT going to be okay. You want the chance to sit down with a counselor for at least three sessions. And no, you don't want a job and be depressed -- automatic failure because you'll end up losing the job, and then will feel even worse about yourself.

They don't have health insurance. I asked them once before. My mother is not willing to pay extra for health insurance. And my father doesn't have it either. I don't think I'm depressed anyway I don't act like it. I just need to stop being stupid and get my act together.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 01:57 PM
True, however, you don't even want a job that requires ANY communication with people.

That's not real typical for a twenty year old.

The fact that you are also having web cam relationships and thinking you are "worthless" leads me to believe that you may be suffering from depression.

I doubt your parents know the severity of your situation.

You may need counseling.

It's not that I don't want one that requires communication I would rather not but I can't avoid it. But I can't even pass an interview for those type of jobs because I need to have those communication skills.

And what's wrong with having a web cam relationship? No other boy would want me, hell I don't want myself so that's the only kind I could get.

Enigma1999
Jan 5, 2013, 01:59 PM
They don't have health insurance. I asked them once before. My mother is not willing to pay extra for health insurance. And my father doesn't have it either. I don't think I'm depressed anyway I don't act like it. I just need to stop being stupid and get my act together.

Not depressed?

Your whole thread reeks of depression!

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:08 PM
There are counselors who work on a sliding scale or who will barter or will certainly work out something with you, maybe putting off any payment until you get a job later. Want me to find one for you? ;)

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:10 PM
Not depressed??

Your whole thread reeks of depression!

I suppose so. Then what to do about it?

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:11 PM
I suppose so. Then what to do about it?
Find a counselor. Read my previous reply.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:15 PM
There are counselors who work on a sliding scale or who will barter or will certainly work out something with you, maybe putting off any payment until you get a job later. Want me to find one for you? ;)

Noooo. Please don't you are already doing too much as it is. I don't deserve your help at all. I should have this all figured out already by myself. Don't even know why I posted at all.

Don't need a damn counselor don't need anything. If I was a better person and did what I suppose to I wouldn't need all of this. Just more time and money being wasted on somenoe can't do nothing right.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:18 PM
I'll just keep applying to jobs and keep failing than someone will take pity and hire me... then all would be better everything would be solved. And I will be happy. That's what I will do don't need to spend money I don't have on some damn bullsh*t feel good crap.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:19 PM
Noooo. Please don't you are already doing to much as it is. I don't deserve your help at all. I should have this all figured out already by myself. Don't even know why I posted at all.

Don't need a damn counselor don't need anything. If I was a better person and did what I suppose to I wouldn't need all of this. Just more time and money being wasted on somenoe can't do nothing right.
I'd be out of a job as a counselor if all my potential clients felt that way.

We all need a leg up now and then. Now it's your turn. You need an unbiased person to be with to role-play and also to work on this depression thing, and to find out why you are looking for love on the Internet. And no, at 20 few people have it all figured out. I'm still figuring it out at 67.

Enigma1999
Jan 5, 2013, 02:21 PM
I'll just keep applying to jobs and keep failing than someone will take pity and hire me...then all would be better everything would be solved. And I will be happy. That's what I will do don't need to spend money I don't have on some damn bullsh*t feel good crap.

Well, having that attitude won't slove anything.

Look, WG and I are trying to help you out. It is up to you if you want to accept it.

Allow WG to look up the places for you...

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:23 PM
I can't stop anyone.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:25 PM
I can't stop anyone.
Would you check out some counselors if I found some names for you?

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:26 PM
Isn't there an employment thingy coming up this week for you? To learn how to do a resume, etc.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:28 PM
Would you check out some counselors if I found some names for you?

I'm not doing anything else right? All their going to say is that I have no problems, I haven't been abused, I'm not blind or deaf, no disability, I'm just selfish and lazy good for nothing scum.

But yes, I will check out some counselors.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:31 PM
I'm not doing anything else right? All their going to say is that I have no problems, I haven't been abused, I'm not blind or deaf, no disability, I'm just selfish and lazy good for nothing scum.
You are almost funny. Now, what do you mean you aren't doing anything else? I'm not going to knock myself out to find you some names if you plan to just sit and spin in front of your computer.

Do I have to drive up from Chicago and wrestle you to the floor myself?

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:38 PM
You are almost funny. Now, what do you mean you aren't doing anything else? I'm not going to knock myself out to find you some names if you plan to just sit and spin in front of your computer.

Do I have to drive up from Chicago and wrestle you to the floor myself?

You're right, your right I'm sorry. I'm taking my frustration out on you instead of myself where it belongs. I'll find the name myself you guys have been doing too much seriously, I'll find some names be scared as hell to call but I'll try.

No you don't have to drive anywhere.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:43 PM
I'm sorry this is why don't dersve help from kind people like you guys. I ask for help then I act all rude, arguing why I don't need help, then back to square one. Guess just need someone to validate my worthlessness.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:43 PM
You're right, your right I'm sorry. I'm taking my frustration out on you instead of myself where it belongs. I'll find the name myself you guys have been doing to much seriously, i'll find some names be scared as hell to call but i'll try.

No you don't have to drive anywhere.
It would take me only a hour or less of travel. :) I could take you for a ride in my neat little Dodge Neon and we could turn up the volume real high on a One Direction CD.

I do want a report now and then as to your progress. Remember, I'm only an hour away...

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:45 PM
I'm sorry this is why don't dersve help from kind people like you guys. I ask for help then I act all rude, arguing why I don't need help, then back to square one. guess just need someone to validate my worthlessness.
Okay. I'll go for it. Now let's make you worth something. :D

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:46 PM
Isn't there an employment thingy coming up this week for you? to learn how to do a resume, etc.?

Yes lots of things coming up, on the 8th a career fair for aldi a bunch of hospitals and stuff and this goodwill program to help make resumes and stuff..

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:48 PM
Yes lots of things coming up, on the 8th a career fair for aldi a bunch of hospitals and stuff and this goodwill program to help make resumes and stuff..
You can teach them a thing to two now about resume construction. You are planning to attend the career fair, right? And will reapply at Goodwill, right?

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:48 PM
Okay. I'll go for it. Now let's make you worth something. :D

Haha, You are funny. That drive would be nice though...

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 02:54 PM
You can teach them a thing to two now about resume construction. You are planning to attend the career fair, right? And will reapply at Goodwill, right?

Yes, I am. And I see a some job openings for Milwaukee Sportservice at Miller Park, some at Petco ( I hope I really get) Goodwill, Hospital Food Service and a bunch of dishwasher jobs.

I'm really hoping for Petco. I would love to be around some animals even though don't have much experience. Couldn't volunteer for humane society because I don't have health insurance or a doctor.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 02:57 PM
When I was in high school and nervous about doing a presentation in front of a class, my dad told me that I am the expert for this presentation topic and also just imagine everyone sitting there in their underwear. That helped a lot, to the point I was almost laughing during my presentation. So go to that job fair and remember that you are the expert about you -- and you've proven that by narrowing down the resume to fit the kinds of jobs you would be good at. You might want to skip the underwear visuals, though.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 03:05 PM
Yes, I am. And I see a some job openings for Milwaukee Sportservice at Miller Park, some at Petco ( I hope I really get) Goodwill, Hospital Food Service and a bunch of dishwasher jobs.

I'm really hoping for Petco. I would love to be around some animals even though don't have much experience. Couldn't volunteer for humane society because I don't have health insurance or a doctor.
Petco would probably be putting products in their right places in the storeroom once they come off delivery trucks and then cases and crates on pallets into the store, stocking shelves, facing the items, keeping the shelves stocked, doing inventory, cleaning cages of the small animals and maybe fish tanks -- sounds like a job I would like too. The biggest challenge would be to learn how to deal with customers who want to find something in the store and see you working there, so will ask for help.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 03:07 PM
Xx

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 03:10 PM
Petco would probably be putting products in their right places in the storeroom once they come off delivery trucks and then cases and crates on pallets into the store, stocking shelves, facing the items, keeping the shelves stocked, doing inventory, cleaning cages of the small animals and maybe fish tanks -- sounds like a job I would like too. The biggest challenge would be to learn how to deal with customers who want to find something in the store and see you working there, so will ask for help.

Lol. I feel better now for some reason thank you.

People asking me for help wouldn't be a problem. I would show them and go back to what I was doing. No biggie. The problem would be if they wanted to start a conversation. Or had to sale something, or give out cash basically working the front cashier.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 03:15 PM
Wow 100 + for a counseling session? It's cheaper to just dull everything with alcohol.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 03:18 PM
Lol. I feel better now for some reason thank you.

People asking me for help wouldn't be a problem. I would show them and go back to what I was doing. No biggie. The problem would be if they wanted to start a conversation. Or had to sale something, or give out cash basically working the front cashier.
My son worked for Osco during high school, was a stock clerk, and never was asked to do any cashiering. My Asperger's friend from my writers' group is a stock clerk for Walgreen's and has never touched the cash register -- not part of his job description. If someone tries to engage him in conversation, he just says, "Sorry. Gotta keep working or I'll get fired."

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 03:20 PM
Wow 100 + for a counseling session? It's cheaper to just dull everything with alcohol.
Don't believe everything you read. At Catholic Charities we charged $25 or whatever you could pay per session. My uncle paid a psychiatrist $3/session based on his non-existent income. I've had clients who got counseling from me on a barter system.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 03:22 PM
My son worked for Osco during high school, was a stock clerk, and never was asked to do any cashiering. My Asperger's friend from my writers' group is a stock clerk for Walgreen's and has never touched the cash register -- not part of his job description. If someone tries to engage him in conversation, he just says, "Sorry. Gotta keep working or I'll get fired."

Oh.. OK.. wondergirl thanks again for your help I'm having stomach & back pains and going to see if I can dull them with sleep.. I'm tried right now anyway. Good Night.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 03:23 PM
Don't believe everything you read. At Catholic Charities we charged $25 or whatever you could pay per session. My uncle paid a psychiatrist $3/session based on his non-existent income. I've had clients who got counseling from me on a barter system.

Guess just got to suck it up and call them hun.. *yawn* think I am going to sleeep

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 05:52 PM
I'm reading some symptoms and I think I may have atypical depression, the over eating and over sleeping is spot on also possibly avoidant personality disorder but not as severe. And thinking about it, I had it for quite awhile. Heh. Wouldn't have guessed.

And this social isolation isn't healthy for my age but most of the time don't really want people around me. The more people around me the more I feel irritated and needing to escape or be alone for awhile. But at the same time I don't like being alone with one person because the pressure of having to talk is draining. Just too much.-.-

Lost all care for my appearance and personal hygiene. I could go months without brushing my teeth, washing my hair or showering. All my clothes are too tight for me because keep gaining weight. And it feels like a chore even waking up. The longest I went without leaving the house at all was about 6 months. Sleeping, about 3 days straight.

Don't know how to get out of this funk.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 06:09 PM
Counselor.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 06:16 PM
Counselor.

How do I find a good one?

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 06:19 PM
How do I find a good one?
Is there a Catholic Charities in Milwaukee? I will Google for that and some other counseling I trust.

Here's CC --

Milwaukee Catholic Charities offices (http://www.ccmke.org/Catholic-Charities/FamilyChildrensMinistries/Counseling.htm)

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 06:24 PM
Lutheran Social Services -- not as nearby to you --

LSSWis - Lutheran Social Services Counseling Services Wisconsin (http://www.lsswis.org/LSS/Services/Counseling.htm)

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 06:25 PM
Is there a Catholic Charities in Milwaukee? I will Google for that and some other counseling I trust.

Here's CC --

Milwaukee Catholic Charities offices (http://www.ccmke.org/Catholic-Charities/FamilyChildrensMinistries/Counseling.htm)

Mhm.

I-I'll call umm call tomorrow.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 06:32 PM
Mhm.

I-I'll call umm call tomorrow.
You don't have to be Catholic, and there is no mention of religion. I did one of my internships at CC near Chicago (and I'm Lutheran). And you will keep me informed when you call and what they said and what you said and how it went, right?

And then we will have a party to celebrate your first appointment, right?

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 06:44 PM
You don't have to be Catholic, and there is no mention of religion. I did one of my internships at CC near Chicago (and I'm Lutheran). And you will keep me informed when you call and what they said and what you said and how it went, right?

And then we will have a party to celebrate your first appointment, right?

Aww, shucks! Now that your counting on it I HAVE to do it. I'm kidding. Yes, then we can celebrate.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 06:45 PM
Aww, shucks! Now that your counting on it I HAVE to do it. I'm kidding. Yes, then we can celebrate.
I've decide I'm not going to eat or sleep until you make your first appointment. :)

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 06:48 PM
Whoops! I can't do that -- then you'd have something else beyond your control to feel guilty about. Never mind. I'll have to think of something else to guarantee you will make that call. I'd love to call you myself, but Ben would kill me (not allowed).

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 07:01 PM
Whoops! I can't do that -- then you'd have something else beyond your control to feel guilty about. Never mind. I'll have to think of something else to guarantee you will make that call. I'd love to call you myself, but Ben would kill me (not allowed).

Aww man.. Ben is your husband? Lol
But seriously I need to make the call you've been helping so much it's the least I can do.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 07:03 PM
Aww man.. Ben is your husband? lol
But seriously I need to make the call you've been helping so much it's the least I can do.
No, Ben is the admin on this site and watches us like a hawk. My husband just started his 32nd annual diet, so he has other things on his mind.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 07:12 PM
Haha. Tha's tooo bad. Diet hun? That's what's everyone in this house is trying to do. No such luck from anyone. XD

Seriously though, I might as well call couldn't hurt. I just kind of phobic about call people especially if its about a job or making an appointment..

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 07:22 PM
My husband surrendered all the cookies (cheap ones from Walmart) he had hidden near his computer. We'll see how long this diet lasts. He's already getting ornery from lack of sugar.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 07:44 PM
My husband surrendered all the cookies (cheap ones from Walmart) he had hidden near his computer. We'll see how long this diet lasts. He's already getting ornery from lack of sugar.

Heh, I'm the same way. Though It wouldn't be so easy for me to surrender my sugar fix. I'm rooting for him, seriously isn't easy to give up the sugar!

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 07:51 PM
He wants to go to Utah in April and camp and hike and wrestle mountain lions. Utah is his favorite state. He goes there once or twice a year, but didn't get to go during 2012 because his mom was sick and finally died in October. Meanwhile, he relieved all his stress by eating everything he isn't supposed to. Now there are all sorts of cookies lying around. I should give them to the food pantry.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 07:52 PM
Great, I'm left alone with my sisters kids again. Just because I don't go out I'm now the designated baby sitter. Can't even have weekends alone. -.- And if I try to say something about it I get yelled at wth?

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 07:54 PM
How old are they? Girls? Boys? A mix?

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 08:00 PM
He wants to go to Utah in April and camp and hike and wrestle mountain lions. Utah is his favorite state. He goes there once or twice a year, but didn't get to go during 2012 because his mom was sick and finally died in October. Meanwhile, he relieved all his stress by eating everything he isn't supposed to. Now there are all sorts of cookies lying around. I should give them to the food pantry.

Oh that sounds pretty cool. Never been to Utah before. Looks like nothing but a bunch of rocks and mountains, dirt and hotness. LOL please don't tell me he actually wrestle mountain lions... wouldn't go near them with a 10 foot pole. Sucks about him Mom though what she die of? For stress he should take a trip somewhere. Getting away from the scenery is always nice, no? Haha.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 08:02 PM
How old are they? girls? boys? a mix?

3 1 boy and 2 girls it's not that don't like 'em it's just they need my constant attention and on weekends need to be left alone. Always asking me to do this and do that. I have no patience right now. One is older one(Girl) is 7 the younger one (girl) 4 and the boy is 5. ANd all 3 are bad as heck. There quiet now since their eating but once that's over with the noise starts and I'm in hell again.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 08:10 PM
3 1 boy and 2 girls it's not that don't like 'em it's just they need my constant attention and on weekends need to be left alone. Always asking me to do this and do that. I have no patience right now. One is older one(Girl) is 7 the younger one (girl) and the boy is 5. ANd all 3 are bad as heck. There quiet now since their eating but once that's over with the noise starts and i'm in hell again.
Put on your teacher hat and teach them Paper, Stone, & Scissors. Or have a coloring contest. Or play Concentration with a deck of cards.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 08:14 PM
Put on your teacher hat and teach them Paper, Stone, & Scissors. Or have a coloring contest. Or play Concentration with a deck of cards.

Wouldn't be a bad idea if they stayed quiet during those things.. All I'll hear is Alex, Alex he took my pencil, Alex Alex He hit me in the face, Alex Alex she ripped up my cards, alex alex he's drawing all over my paper, alex alex, he keeps pushing me alex alex she keeps breathing my air, alex alex this alex alex that... omg

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 08:18 PM
Wouldn't be a bad idea if they stayed quiet during those things.. All I'll hear is Alex, Alex he took my pencil, Alex Alex He hit me in the face, Alex Alex she ripped up my cards, alex alex he's drawing all over my paper, alex alex, he keeps pushing me alex alex she keeps breathing my air, alex alex this alex alex that... omg
Take control of Alex. Make it a girls' game. No Alex. He can watch.

Wondergirl
Jan 5, 2013, 08:20 PM
Why are they eating at 9 p.m.

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 08:21 PM
Take control of Alex. Make it a girls' game. No Alex. He can watch.

Alex is me lol. Put them together their hell in different rooms peace but they end up getting bored or something and gather up in one room to mess with each other and fight. -.-

despicableme
Jan 5, 2013, 08:21 PM
Why are they eating at 9 p.m.?

I unno said they were hungry so I fed them.

despicableme
Jan 6, 2013, 05:16 AM
Actually, no. I don't need to go to a counselor I can do this myself! Just need to exercise more and stick to a schedule that's all. It's probably just mild anyway.

Wondergirl
Jan 6, 2013, 07:42 AM
Actually, no. I don't need to go to a counselor I can do this myself! Just need to exercise more and stick to a schedule thats all. It's probably just mild anyway.
Who are you going to be accountable to?

despicableme
Jan 6, 2013, 08:12 AM
Who are you going to be accountable to?

I don't know. >.< I don't want to talk to these people don't need to anyhow

OK, OK what do I say?

Just going to tell me that's nothing wrong with me and that I just need to grow the heck up like eveyone else no need to waste their time when someone else need more help.I am just a lazy good for nothing chump.. that need to shut up and get a damn job.

Wondergirl
Jan 6, 2013, 09:02 AM
I don't know. >.< I don't want to talk to these people don't need to anyhow
It's scary to think about, isn't it.

OK, OK what do I say?
That's where role-playing comes in, to do a try-out with someone first.

just going to tell me that's nothing wrong with me and that I just need to grow the heck up like eveyone else no need to waste their time when someone else need more help.I am just a lazy good for nothing chump.. that need to shut up and get a damn job.
I never said that. Another counselor won't either.

despicableme
Jan 6, 2013, 01:36 PM
It's scary to think about, isnt it.

That's where role-playing comes in, to do a try-out with someone first.

I never said that. Another counselor won't either.
I will try something else phone calling just isn't working for me.. I'll do a walk-in .

Good news I'm going to UPS tomorrow to speak to a hiring manager, the day after is a hiring fair for aldi that I am ready for.
And I am feeling somewhat good.

Wondergirl
Jan 6, 2013, 03:10 PM
I will try something else phone calling just isn't working for me.. I'll do a walk-in.
I had gotten to know a young woman through a chat web site. She lived in NY State, and I'm from there, so we discovered we had lots to chat about. She was depressed, had a frustrated husband and two young kids, and she knew she needed to get help. She and I eventually talked so that she made an appointment with a nearby counselor, but she was scared to go. I sent her my photo (for courage and inspiration?) which she carried in her purse or pocket and looked at on her way to the counselor and even as she opened the office door. She spent a number of happy sessions with that counselor and when the counselor moved, my friend slid into a relationship with a new counselor. All that must have helped because she was able to relocate with her family to NC and find a job she liked down there and also join a church (she had formerly disliked social situations). I've lost track of her, but am guessing she is doing fine or will seek out counseling again, if needed.

Where do you plan to do this walk-in thing?

Good news I'm going to UPS tomorrow to speak to a hiring manager, the day after is a hiring fair for aldi that I am ready for. And I am feeling somewhat good.
And please let me (us) know how that goes! I will be here cheering for you.

despicableme
Jan 6, 2013, 10:41 PM
I had gotten to know a young woman through a chat web site. She lived in NY State, and I'm from there, so we discovered we had lots to chat about. She was depressed, had a frustrated husband and two young kids, and she knew she needed to get help. She and I eventually talked so that she made an appointment with a nearby counselor, but she was scared to go. I sent her my photo (for courage and inspiration?) which she carried in her purse or pocket and looked at on her way to the counselor and even as she opened the office door. She spent a number of happy sessions with that counselor and when the counselor moved, my friend slid into a relationship with a new counselor. All that must have helped because she was able to relocate with her family to NC and find a job she liked down there and also join a church (she had formerly disliked social situations). I've lost track of her, but am guessing she is doing fine or will seek out counseling again, if needed.

Where do you plan to do this walk-in thing?

And please let me (us) know how that goes! I will be here cheering for you.

Maybe this?

Mental Health Resources - Milwaukee (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:95feofB6MhsJ:www.milwaukee.gov/Mental_health_resources.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us)

Don't really know for sure.

Or maybe I'll say f-it and sleep all day. Don't know.

I don't remember but I found it somewhere. Forgot where it's located.. that I saw online. That young woman is strong.. wouldn't have done it. Too, lazy, no motivation, apathy, etc..

I read this. Nearly broke down.

"Very poor self image benefits from harbouring within the unconscious thoughts stored negative memories of abuse, neglect, humiliation, rejection etc. that depart 1 feeling unworthy, insufficient, needy, ineffective, poor, unattractive, stupid, weak, and so on. Usually people today who come to feel these strategies tend to shy away from usual and open intimate relationships out of a concern of getting other people find out how faulty they by themselves feel they are."

Don't understand though because had a decent life no abuse or unfavorable conditions.. The only memory of abuse, neglect, humiliation and rejection is what I cause myself because always felt unworthy and inadequate, like I'm broken or something.

Wondergirl
Jan 6, 2013, 10:44 PM
I like the sound of the counseling offered on that link you posted.

Do you remember when you started feeling the way you do about yourself?

Wondergirl
Jan 6, 2013, 10:47 PM
That young woman is strong..wouldn't have done it. Too, lazy, no motivation, apathy, etc.
I didn't mention how many months she and I had talked before she was even willing to consider going to a counselor. Her husband was getting ready to divorce her and take the kids with him, so that pushed her into thinking my way a bit.

despicableme
Jan 6, 2013, 10:53 PM
I like the sound of the counseling offered on that link you posted.

Do you remember when you started feeling the way you do about yourself?

Don't know beginning of high school middle-school? Can't really remember. I had a couple of meltdowns in both.. middle school had more humiliating events, high school more anxiety and low self esteem.

Wondergirl
Jan 6, 2013, 10:54 PM
What caused the meltdowns? Humiliating events?

despicableme
Jan 6, 2013, 10:55 PM
I didn't mention how many months she and I had talked before she was even willing to consider going to a counselor. Her husband was getting ready to divorce her and take the kids with him, so that pushed her into thinking my way a bit.

Oh goodness that's simply horrible. Now that's something to be depressed about. That's her children too for goodness sake! Reading that wonderful she was able to get the help she needed.

despicableme
Jan 6, 2013, 11:09 PM
What caused the meltdowns? humiliating events?

I don't know stress I suppose?

Bladder problems peeded on myself in middle school wore a diaper and some a-hole panteds me in front of everyone. Had my period come I front of my entire class, chair and pants had blood stains, everyone knew it was me and lost my only friend then, gotten bettter, took a picture of myself naked picture for this boy I had liked in school ended up showing it to all his friends and a couple of girls to show how ugly and fat I was. Had to suck him and a bunch of friends or he'll put it online. Forgot that part. Ended up getting his phone breaking it in half and deleting the picture ended up moving to a different school thank god... and some other stuff.. that was mostly my fault..

despicableme
Jan 6, 2013, 11:21 PM
Started becoming fatter once I hit my freshman year in highscool, eveyone was so pretty and had wonderful friends.. evne the bigger girls had this confidence I never seemed to have.. gotten up to 190 pounds.. and now lo and behold I am 220... missed plenty of social events, failed many classes but because I never caused trouble some teachers let me slide.. with a D mostly social isolation during high school.. had some friends during the middle of junior and senior year but dirfted part once graduation. *shrugs*