A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.
None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.


BBC NEWS | Health | Doctors' kitchen knives ban call (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm)

I thought I was reading an Onion article. Maybe they will permit all the sheeple to own sporks .

OMG! I have three sporks from KFC. And no training in their use or license to own or carry. Will I get into trouble? The sporks are plastic, if that makes a difference, but they are black, not white.

That plastic spork can be a lethal weapon... or was that the KFC mac and cheese ?

And I have THREE sporks! Have never had the mac and cheese. I always get the slaw and the mashed with gravy plus dark meat only. And no knives.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

How long before they ban grinders?

Have never had the mac and cheese

You should try it , it is deliciously unhealthy .

How long before they ban grinders?

Took me a while to remember that other parts of the country call 'heroes' grinders.
By the way sis appreciates the award .

And don't forget ; a man was once killed with the jawbone of an a$$

Ad be careful when you are camping. Remember Jael in the Bible -- "Jael, Heber's wife, took a tent peg and seized a hammer in her hand, and went secretly to him and drove the peg into his temple, and it went through into the ground; for he was sound asleep and exhausted. So he died. And behold, as Barak pursued Sisera, Jael came out to meet him and said to him, 'Come, and I will show you the man whom you are seeking.' And he entered with her, and behold Sisera was lying dead with the tent peg in his temple.” (Judges 4:36-68)

took me a while to remember that other parts of the country call 'heroes' grinders.

A hero is a different kind of lethal weapon. Something Bloomy should take up I imag8ine.


by the way sis appreciates the award .

She earned it.

My kitchen knives are already illegal weapons if carried in public or in a conceiled manner, haven't seen many people injured by knives because they can't have guns although a police officer was recently killed with a knife, I wonder why he didn't draw his gun

Britain has gone too far in the other direction on self-defence issues, a farmer named Tony Martin spent about three years in jail for shooting two thugs on his own property and the gov't actually loaned money to the surviving thug to sue Martin. The thug spent much less time in prison than Martin. Canada is nearly as bad, you hear many situations where people get charged for defending themselves in their own home. There should be automatic immunity from prosecution for anyone who uses force to defend themselves in their own home.

It's all part of the I can do anything I want culture that must be checked, you can't just shoot people who come on your property, or even people you think are a threat, and you can't shoot first and ask questions later

it's all part of the I can do anything I want culture that must be checked, you can't just shoot people who come on your property, or even people you think are a threat, and you can't shoot first and ask questions later

I can.

I got my spork from Taco He!! does that make a difference? Am I licensed to carry a spork?

my kitchen knives are already illegal weapons That's such a shame.

Some inconvenient truths about knives...
According to FBI data, in 2007, there were 453 homicides by rifle in the U.S.In 2007, there were 1,817 homicides committed with "knives or cutting instruments"; "blunt objects like clubs, hammers, sporks (?)" killed 674; while "personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)" were the choices in 869 homicides.

When added together, knives, blunt instruments and the human body were responsible for more than nine times as many homicides as rifles in 2011.

Ready to hear charges that the data was cherry picked and therefore irrelevant .

So Tom what you are telling us is that rifles don't kill the 10,000 people who die from gun violence in the US each year, it is hand guns, how about this you get to keep your rifle and we ban all the hand guns?

You also need to watch your rhetoric, you just jumped from 2007 to 2011 without a blink or providing the statistics to back up your claim

how about this you get to keep your rifle and we ban all the hand guns?



So then that means I get to keep my AR and AK? In the other thread, these were evil WMDs, remember?

Well of course they are, but which is the greater evil, the many guns that kill many people or the few guns that kill many people. You see, the debate becomes ridiculous once you start nitpicking the statistics, the reality is the combination of guns and people kill people, but we haven't lost many guns lately, guns don't suicide after killing people

What I know is this, you ban the hand guns and the statistics on how many people are killed using a rifle will jump, but a rifle is harder to conceil or carry for a ligitimate purpose in public

In this debate, using Tom's statistics it becomes obvious you have to ban certain classes of edged weapons also

but which is the greater evil, the many guns that kill many people or the few guns that kill many people.

Or the illegal kitchen knives?

No the guns win

When I work in the ER I see more stabbings and beatings with blunt force trauma than I do gun shots.

Strange but then the victims of gunshot don't make it to the ER, you find them in the morgue

Nah, not necessarily.

Honestly, I've placed more victims of knife wounds, blunt force trauma to the head and drunk driving in the morgue than gunshot wounds.

Ya know that not everyone who is shot dies? Right?

so Tom what you are telling us is that rifles don't kill the 10,000 people who die from gun violence in the US each year, it is hand guns, how about this you get to keep your rifle and we ban all the hand guns?

You also need to watch your rhetoric, you just jumped from 2007 to 2011 without a blink or providing the statistics to back up your claim

I quoted the stats available. The problem with your logic is that you want to go after the low hanging fruit... the legal guns owned by lawful citizens . Chi-town this week went over the 500 murder mark for the year; including far more children than were killed in Connecticut . Almost all of them were done by gangbangers carrying illegal guns. I suggest there is where the gun control effort should be made .

It is an endless debate Tom the reality is guns kill people, criminals kill people with illegal guns, nutcases kill people with legal guns, so the way out is not more guns but removing both the source and the stock. Look I know you aren't going to do it, it is too emotive an issue, it is a pity the safety of children doesn't carry the same emotion, because guns in the community didn't stop those deaths you speak of, so your argument is false logic

No it isn't .Chi-town has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country .And Chicago's soaring homicide and violent crime rates is a demonstration of just how ineffective restrictive gun laws are. The cold hard fact is that criminals will always find a way to get guns.

Yes and your answer is vigilante justice, the citizens militia, tell me Tom how come all those responsible gun owners haven't risen up and qwelled the violence, don't tell me they don't know who to target, there is a gang banger on every corner. The reality is it isn't going to happen, the power of one doesn't work in the US either.

When peoplewho have real experience of lower violence in their society give you a solution to try, why don't you listen to them. Is is stupidity, is it not invented here or is it just plain old pride.

I don't call for vigilante justice . Legal guns are our constitutional right to self defense .


When people who have real experience of lower violence in their society, why don't you listen to them. Is is stupidity, is it not invented here or is it just plain old pride.
We'll talk about that when your nation has thousands of miles of open borders .

I don't call for vigilante justice . Legal guns are our constitutional right to self defense .


We'll talk about that when your nation has thousands of miles of open borders .

We have 36,000 kilometers of border and not a fence in sight, when you have that much let us know, we had about 8,000 illegal arrivals by boat this year, don't know how many overstays, but we don't feel the need to defend ourselves by arming the population

The point I'm trying to make to you is yourself defense isn't working because in actual fact it is bullshlt