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Tjmnsd
Oct 15, 2012, 08:27 AM
I just rescued a 5yr old Yourkie mix. I crate him at night. Let him out early in the morning before I go to the gym. I come home and he's peed on the area rug.
Do I need to put him in his crate every time I leave? And all day while I'm at work? We go for long walks. I got his pooping outside taking care of. What am I doing wrong. Or is he just being defiant
excon
Oct 15, 2012, 08:39 AM
Hello T:
Defiance is a HUMAN emotion... Dog's aren't defiant. Dogs aren't TRAINED properly, that's all.
excon
Tjmnsd
Oct 15, 2012, 03:36 PM
Hello T:
Defiance is a HUMAN emotion... Dog's aren't defiant. Dogs aren't TRAINED properly, that's all.
excon
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Wondergirl
Oct 15, 2012, 03:40 PM
excon is right about the defiance.
Does the dog pee when you take him out in the morning? How long is he left alone? He could be suffering from separation anxiety or even have a UTI. Has a vet checked him about the problem peeing?
Dog experts will be along to check this board and will offer advice. Please be patient.
LadySam
Oct 15, 2012, 04:50 PM
Could be that he was never trained properly and you may have to start from scratch.
I am a firm believer in ruling out any medical issues such as urinary tract infections and going form there.
If there is an underlying medical problem your attempts to train will fail.
There is lots of good training advice in this sticky.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/helpful-training-tips-your-new-dog-500972.html
Poor training, perhaps, but defiance, no, dogs don't think along those lines.
Tjmnsd
Oct 17, 2012, 02:36 PM
excon is right about the defiance.
Does the dog pee when you take him out in the morning? How long is he left alone? He could be suffering from separation anxiety or even have a UTI. Has a vet checked him about the problem peeing?
Dog experts will be along to check this board and will offer advice. Please be patient.
I take him out he will do his business. Ill feed him and then he will go and pee or poop in the living room
Wondergirl
Oct 17, 2012, 02:38 PM
I take him out he will do his business. Ill feed him and then he will go and pee or poop in the living room
You take him out after feeding him too. Do you have signal words for peeing and pooping? Do you get happy and excited and praise him after he goes outside?
Tjmnsd
Oct 17, 2012, 02:39 PM
Could be that he was never trained properly and you may have to start from scratch.
I am a firm believer in ruling out any medical issues such as urinary tract infections and going form there.
If there is an underlying medical problem your attempts to train will fail.
There is lots of good training advice in this sticky.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/helpful-training-tips-your-new-dog-500972.html
Poor training, perhaps, but defiance, no, dogs don't think along those lines.
I'm starting him in training class Monday. He does take medication for seizures. He holds it all night while in his crate. When I take him out to go to potty he's takes a long time. Stubborn a little
LadySam
Oct 17, 2012, 04:43 PM
Where did you rescue him from?
Do you know anything of his previous training, was he perhaps trained to use pee pads or paper trained?
If this was the case, then he has learned that it is OK to pee indoors,
Most any soft thing laying on the floor, towel, rug, dirty laundry, etc. is a target.
I had this problem with one of mine, took me a good long while to get her retrained.
Crate training worked well for her.
Consistency and patience will be very important.
One other question, if you don't mind. Is he neutered?
Tjmnsd
Oct 17, 2012, 04:44 PM
You take him out after feeding him too. Do you have signal words for peeing and pooping? Do you get happy and excited and praise him after he goes outside?
Yes
Tjmnsd
Oct 17, 2012, 04:50 PM
Where did you rescue him from?
Do you know anything of his previous training, was he perhaps trained to use pee pads or paper trained?
If this was the case, then he has learned that it is ok to pee indoors,
most any soft thing laying on the floor, towel, rug, dirty laundry, etc. is a target.
I had this problem with one of mine, took me a good long while to get her retrained.
Crate training worked well for her.
Consistency and patience will be very important.
One other question, if you don't mind. Is he neutered?
He is neutered :) his foster mom just let him do what ever he wanted he will pee on a pad but not poop. I have read not to use them and would like not to It seams like he has had some training and were starting class on Monday. He takes longer when where out side and I'm patience (slowly losing it) . I praise him. And love him up. I think he just needs to be re trained. I got a crate. He seams to like it.
LadySam
Oct 17, 2012, 05:17 PM
It sounds as if that may be the problem.
Training is good but the training you give him at home is where it is going to count.
Be patient with him, it may take a while and get rid of the pee pads all together.
Next to retractable leashes I think pee pads are one of the worst ideas ever for dogs.
Tjmnsd
Oct 18, 2012, 06:42 AM
Yes
I think he was trained to go on a pad. What's the best way to transition him away from a pad
LadySam
Oct 19, 2012, 06:02 AM
In my case I did away with them all together and started the crate training from scratch.
When I was away from home she was crated until she got how things worked at my house.
A regular schedule is important, my guys get 4 potty trips per day. Once in the morning before work, lunch time (is it possible for you to go home at lunch to let him out?) Once as soon as I get home for the day and then once more about an hour after their evening meal.
You will have to establish a schedule and stick to it.
I understand that you feel crating while you are away seems excessive, but it may be necessary, and it won't last forever.
Only react if you actually see him going on a rug, then simply give a good stern NO and take him out immediately, and lots of praise when he goes.
If you scold him after the fact he won't understand what he is being scolded for.
It will be frustrating, and you will have to be diligent.
But that diligence will pay off in the end.
vannarea
Oct 21, 2012, 08:24 PM
We use boundary you can get it at vets it has a bad smell to them but it usually keeps them away from areas you would rather them not be in spray the place he uses the bathroom on and he should leave it alone