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Melimel78
Sep 25, 2012, 10:56 PM
I rented a home from a homeowner and the house was on someone else's property. Only myself and the homeowner signed the lease. Did the property owner have to sign the lease as well in order for the lease to be valid or upheld?

Fr_Chuck
Sep 26, 2012, 05:49 AM
Please describe this better.

A house is owned by the property owner on the deed. A house is not owned separate.

A trailer or a mobile home by have a title and be owned by someone not the owner of the property.

If this is a trailer and it is sitting on property owned by someone else, ( normally a mobile home park)
The owner of the trailer pays the land rent and can rent out his home. There is no need or requirement for the person renting the trailer to have the landowner involved.

The issue will be if they stop paying rent.

Not sure if this is your case

ScottGem
Sep 26, 2012, 06:46 AM
Yes, if you are renting a house then the property owner owns the house. If it's a trailer or mobile home, then it could be owned by someone else. But if the property owner decides he doesn't want the trailer/home on the property, the owner will have to move it.

Melimel78
Sep 26, 2012, 10:08 AM
Thanks for taking the time to give your thoughts. The situation is as follows.. I rented a trailer from a man.. he owned the trailer.. his ex-wife owned the land the trailer was sitting on. Only he and I signed the lease. I signed this lease under false pre-tense because he lied about who owned the land. He had stated he owned everything only for me to find out he did not. He only owned the trailer the land was sitting on. Things started going wrong and nothing ever got fixed. There was black mold throughout the home, roof leaking, sewer gases coming through the vents etc.. I gave my 30 day intent to vacate.. sent it return receipt. I still had 6 mo's left on the lease but had no choice but to bail. I have dated pics of all things wrong.. before and afters of when I lived there and when I left. I have documentation of day to day matters that had happened between myself, landlord and landowner. We are going to court and my only hope to NOT have to owe these scam artist $$ is that the lease was signed amongst lies and the landowner was never on the lease. This lease was typed up on a home computer...

ScottGem
Sep 26, 2012, 10:18 AM
Can you prove he told you that he owned the land? Did you give him the opportunity to make the repairs?

Is he suing you for breaking the lease? Or what are you going to court over?

Melimel78
Sep 26, 2012, 10:46 AM
Can you prove he told you that he owned the land? Did you give him the opportunity to make the repairs?

Is he suing you for breaking the lease? or what are you going to court over?

We are going to court because he told my parents it would be OK to put a carport on the land. They fronted the $$ and he said he would pay them back being the carport would be there to stay. It was unfortunately a handshake deal. He never paid them back.. nor would they of put the carport up if they knew it was someone else's land. We are going to court because my parents want their $$. My mom sent a certified letter a yr ago to him asking for payment. He chose to ignore it. We are suing him for payment of the carport. He is making threats saying it would have been in my best interest to settle a few days ago when he went to my parents house.. but he didn't want to pay the full amount so we upheld the court date.. only now I have found court got delayed because he hired an attorney. My only concern is now he is going to try to get $$ from me for bailing and that's why I'm trying to see if the lease is even valid being he lied about everything. He had plenty of times to fix ALL matter/repairs.. My lease states him as owner.. It says, "Owner hereby leases to resident, and resident hereby leases from the owner, the premise known as... then it has the address...

joypulv
Sep 26, 2012, 11:58 AM
I believe that you have a case - IF what you say is all of this story, and if his lawyer isn't better than yours (or you defending yourself), and if you get a sympathetic judge.

The carport can't be removed? The court may order you to take it away.

ScottGem
Sep 26, 2012, 01:29 PM
OK, yes, I think you have a very good case. But if he has a lawyer you better get one.