Hello:

Mitt thinks running for president is hard. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/09/21/ann-romney-to-critics-stop-it-this-is-hard/). Does he think BEING president is easy??

Downballot Republicans are running away from him. His collapse is going to cause the loss of the Senate, that was within their reach, and the Dems MIGHT even regain the House.

Obama WAS imminently beatable... So, the Republicans ran a bunch of clowns against him.. What were they thinking?

excon

Well it can't be that hard if Obama has time to go on David Leterman and play golf while out Embassies burn.

Well it can't be that hard if Obama has time to go on David Leterman and play golf while out Embassies burn.Hello smoothy:

When you're WINNING, you've got time on your hands...

excon

Hello smoothy:

When you're WINNING, you've got time on your hands...

excon

He's not winning... he only thinks he is...

He's not winning...he only thinks he is.....Hello smoothy:

No, I think he will.. It's true, the final poll has yet to be taken, but the ones I read today show Obama PULLING away. It's going to be a landslide. Of course, you'll deny it. You guys deny EVERYTHING.

excon

Hello smoothy:

No, I think he will.. It's true, the final poll has yet to be taken, but the ones I read today show Obama PULLING away. It's going to be a landslide. Of course, you'll deny it. You guys deny EVERYTHING.

excon

The only polls that are showing him ahead are dubious at best with their methodology...

And the only poll that really matters are the ones in the voting booth.

The only polls that are showing him ahead are dubious at best with their methodology....Hello again, smoothy:

If I ran a poll, and wanted to BEAT Obama in the worst way, I'd show him ahead.

excon

You thought it was easy? Your psychological war isn't fazing me a bit.

Your psychological war isn't fazing me a bit.Hello again, Steve:

No?? Tom already admitted he'd rather have Ryan at the top.. And, I KNOW you're jonesing for Chris Christy or Jeb Bush...

Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

All the telemarketers who call me say they will vote for Obama (my personal poll). Chicago is covered (both North and South Sides) and yesterday I got Tennessee covered. Obama in a landslide!

(Love the title of this thread, exy!)

I don't put much crede in the polls... too much inside baseball stuff . But considering the convention bounce will fade away ;this is still a tight race by anyone's measure . Only Pew and National poll has it above the margin of error in favor of the President . Everything else is for all intents a statistical tie .

Hello again, Steve:

No??? Tom already admitted he'd rather have Ryan at the top.. And, I KNOW you're jonesing for Chris Christy or Jeb Bush....

Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

I also said the ticket would be better reversed. So? It ain't over.

P.S. Can you say "Jones" here on a thread called "It's hard?"

P.S. Can you say "Jones" here on a thread called "It's hard?"

Jones?. I was thinking Johnson.

OFA can play with the Romney 2011 tax statement all weekend, and do their typical mock the rich dude act... it does not move the story from the fact that 26 states saw increased unemployment in August . The election is going to be decided on the Obama incompetent and flawed managing of the economy since the "recovery" began.

The President admitted to Univision that he has found that he did not succeed once he was inside .That's because all he knows is community organizing working from the outside. I say we give him that opportunity to again work from the outside.
Here's a slogan for OFA.. "More people added to food stamps than got new jobs last week."WTG OFA!

The election is going to be decided on the Obama incompetent and flawed managing of the economy since the "recovery" began. Nope, it'll be decided on Mittens gaffes.

Nope, it'll be decided on Mittens gaffes.

Nope... Obama and his flunkies really jammed their foot in it over the Libyan Embassy attack pack of lies...

Ok, we'll see after the voting.

The election is not about Romney. It is about the economy, which is sluggish and discouraging. Extreme foreign policy events can change minds about right direction/wrong direction polling ,but is not usually decisive except in rare cases like the 1980 campaign. However ,we don't know how the current crisis will play out so it's too early to say if it will be a major factor this year.

A better polling indicator to look at is likeability .The President needs to be close to 50% in the likeability pools in November . Right now the President is close because he has benefitted from the post DC bounce. But that will not last .

The race by all indicators is too close to call . Some toss away the high and the low polls and you have an averge inside the margins of error . But I normally don't pay attention to polls until the final week . Why ? Because some polls are skewed by the samplings used. But getting closer to the election ,these polling organizations have to be more concerned about their reputations ,so the polling becomes a little more honest.

Romeny's alleged gaffs won't be a factor unless he really screws up in the debates.

Tom you think they are playing with Romney's tax files wouldn't you like a 14% tax rate is that why you want lower taxes so your tax rate can match Romney's. It is a disgrace in public administration that a millionaire or billionaire should have a 14% tax rate whilst poorer people pay higher rates

The election is not about Romney.Sure it is. Typical americans don't care about economic facts. They'll vote for the lesser evil of character and now it appears it's Obama. For example the large majority of the political posts in Current Events don't discuss facts and platforms, they are specifically designed to elicit an emotional reaction - THAT is indeed what will sink Romney.

Nothing emotional here karma just the facts

Sure it is. Typical americans don't care about economic facts. They'll vote for the lesser evil of character and now it appears it's Obama. For example the large majority of the political posts in Current Events don;t discuss facts and platforms, they are specifically designed to elicit an emotional reaction - THAT is indeed what will sink Romney.

And you and ex have never ever done such a thing have you?

As a parody :-)

They'll vote for the lesser evil of character You believe that ? GW Bush won 2 campaigns . I guess that made the Goracle and Kerry the more evil character .

Could be Tom perspectives you know although Gore was cheated so who was the more evil character there

Really don't want to argue the 2000 campaign again. Suffice it to say that an independent recount by new organizations showed that Bush had won the State of Florida. BTW ;Gore lost for3 reasons... The 1st was that Nader siphoned away some of Gore's votes (for all you lovers of 3rd parties );The next is that he ran a poor campaign and exiled Bill Clintoon from participating ;and 3rd ,and most important . There was a recession due to the Dot com bubble burst at the end of the Clintoon term. Economics was the major factor.

The election is not about Romney. It is about the economy, which is sluggish and discouraging.Hello again, tom:

Nahhh... If that were so, Obama would be behind by 10. People KNOW the economy sucks.. They just think Romney sucks MORE. This ISN'T going to be an Obama win. It's going to be a Romney LOSS.

excon

You find all the excuses you like Tom in your election you have admitted it is choosing the lesser evil or as Rusty said the lesser of two weivels

Romney cooked the books, he did it before to be govenor.

So you think he will try it again

Hello again, tom:

Nahhh... If that were so, Obama would be behind by 10. People KNOW the economy sucks.. They just think Romney sucks MORE. This ISN'T going to be an Obama win. It's going to be a Romney LOSS.

excon

Obama is just a supremely skilled liar and the media is willingly complicit.

Obama is just a supremely skilled liar and the media is willingly complicit.Hello again, Steve:

What a lousy country this is... The guy who lies wins, while the wonderful Mormon fellow, who doesn't swear, drink coffee or lie, is going to lose... I think I'll move...

Bwa, ha ha ha..

excon

so you think he will try it again

It worked before.

Hello again, Steve:

What a lousy country this is... The guy who lies wins, while the wonderful Mormon fellow, who doesn't swear, drink coffee or lie, is gonna lose... I think I'll move...

Bwa, ha ha ha..

excon

Dude, Univision to their credit caught him in his lies, when will the others? The media is not serving the public by letting Obama get away with his bullsh*t, if we can't have at least a semblance of an honest debate then what's the point? They KNOW -as do you- he's feeding America lies, and if that's what this country has become then you can have it. I want no part of a country that's willing to sacrifice its honor, its constitution and my rights.

Go ahead, gimme your best shot. You know I'm right. I haven't changed, you have.

Obama is just a supremely skilled liar and the media is willingly complicit.

And if he gets caught. No problem just blame Bush.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/president-obama-falsely-claims-fast-and-furious-program-begun-under-the-previous-administration/


Wonder why this one isn't continuing to be a top news story??

Dude, Univision to their credit caught him in his lies, when will the others? The media is not serving the public by letting Obama get away with his bullsh*t, if we can't have at least a semblance of an honest debate then what's the point? They KNOW -as do you- he's feeding America lies, and if that's what this country has become then you can have it. I want no part of a country that's willing to sacrifice its honor, its constitution and my rights.

Go ahead, gimme your best shot. You know I'm right. I haven't changed, you have.

Between Obama and Mitt when are you leaving? We already have examples of your semblance of honest debate... call the other side liars, and your side the truth.

Dude, Univision to their credit caught him in his lies, when will the others?

Go ahead, gimme your best shot. You know I'm right. I haven't changed, you have.Hello again, Steve:

My best shot is the truth.
2006–2008: Operation Wide Receiver.

The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007. Licensed dealer Mike Detty of Mad Dawg Global informed the ATF of a suspicious gun purchase that took place in February 2006 in Tucson, Arizona. In March he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.[27] With the use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns got to the other side of the border",[12] Detty would sell a total of about 450 guns during the operation.[26] These included AR-15s, semi-automatic AK-pattern rifles, and Colt .38s. The majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.[7][27][28][29]

At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011, nine people had been charged with making false statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment or delivery of firearms.[20] As of November, charges against one defendant had been dropped; five of them had pled guilty, and one had been sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Two of them remained fugitives.[27]

What else is there to say?

Excon

And if he gets caught. No problem just blame Bush.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/president-obama-falsely-claims-fast-and-furious-program-begun-under-the-previous-administration/


Wonder why this one isn't continuing to be a top news story??




But this was not entirely an exoneration of the Justice Department run by Mr. Holder. “We found it troubling that a case of this magnitude, and one that affected Mexico so significantly was not directly briefed to the Attorney General,” the report stated.

In addition to specific disciplinary measures, the Inspector General “made six recommendations designed to increase the Department’s involvement in and oversight of ATF operations, improve coordination among the Department’s law enforcement components, and enhance the Department’s wiretap application review and authorization process. The OIG intends to closely monitor the department’s progress in implementing these recommendations.”


They may have changed the name of the program but it was the same program.


Asked for comment, White House Spokesman Eric Schultz said, “The President was referring to the flawed tactic of gun-walking, which despite Republicans efforts to politicize this issue, began under the previous Administration and it was our Attorney General who ended it. In fact, this week’s IG report affirms this and if Republicans still have any legitimate questions about Fast and Furious, the 450-page report answers them. In light of this thorough report and Congress’s 16 month-long investigation, Republicans have no excuse to keep wasting time and taxpayer resources on politically-motivated, election-year attacks.”

The locals screwed up and tried to cover it up.

They may have changed the name of the program but it was the same program.


So what your saying is the man that claimed to be about hope and change didn't really want either.

To use the quote from ex:

At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011, nine people had been charged with making false statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment or delivery of firearms.[20] As of November, charges against one defendant had been dropped; five of them had pled guilty, and one had been sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Two of them remained fugitives.[27]


It sounds like that ended in 2007, Well before he took office and they had decided to continue with more of the same bad decisions. I wonder who is really running the place when he can run away from responsibility so easily??

DOJ didn't run away, they dealt with it when it came across their desk. Issa should have found out it was a local screw up before he laid blame and contempt. Holder never approved of fast and furious.

Change takes time when there is a lot to change and lets be fair, many don't want ANY change to begin with, good, or bad.

DOJ didn't run away, they dealt with it when it came across their desk. Issa should have found out it was a local screw up before he laid blame and contempt. Holder never approved of fast and furious.

Change takes time when there is a lot to change and lets be fair, many don't want ANY change to begin with, good, or bad.

I agree change takes time. And many don't wish change as it is seen as disruption.

On the other hand there are some things we will never agree upon.

http://www.examiner.com/article/doj-and-media-matters-coordinated-fast-and-furious-reports

Hello smoothy:

No, I think he will.. It's true, the final poll has yet to be taken, but the ones I read today show Obama PULLING away. It's going to be a landslide. Of course, you'll deny it. You guys deny EVERYTHING.

excon
Sounds like OFA is denying...
http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/messina-forget-the-tied-national-polls-were-win

Polls tell you something, what the people polled are thinking or maybe just telling you to get rid of you. You have to see consistency week by week to read anything into it,

Hello again,

In my reality, Obama is winning BIG... In the OTHER reality, they're tied... I wonder why there's TWO realities.

In MY reality, Romney had a very bad week.. In the OTHER reality, he's doing swell. How can that be?

I'm 47% sure Obama is going to win..

excon

Romney had a bad week ? The WH cover story about the attack on Ambassador Stevens turned out to be a lie. His diary reveals he knew he was on a hit list . American Embassies attacked all over the ummah ;and the President called the assassination of an Ambassador ;and the continued attacks a "bump in the road " .
I'd say the President had a worse week .

Hello again, tom:

What amazes me about you guys is that you think because we elected a black man, racism is a thing of the past... You think because he made a speech in Cairo, he SOLVED the Mid East issue...

When you find out your assumptions are WRONG, you blame the president... Silly Republicans.

excon

Dude, we were the ones laughing at all the proclamations of a post racial era having finally arrived, that Muslims were going to love us and Obama would heal the planet. Talk about assumptions, Obama and his minions feed the racial fires, Muslims laugh at his weakness and we're going to have tons of toxic issues when all those Chevy Volts go home to die.

Silly liberals.

You have got to stop dealing in absolutes. This is the problem, everyone is dealing with absolute positions. George Bush made the mistake of thinking the american system could be implemented in Iraq, never going to happen, so now they have a system that doesn't fit.. Right now some people are making mistakes about the way things should be. We all have to face reality, for example; no one is really going to do anything about climate change but it is a great talking point. Romney is going to put americans back to work, good luck with that, we are in a post GFC world, the game has changed and we all want it to be different, but it isn't.

I think Obama has done the right thing staying out of Libya and Syria, hard as it is, let the arabs sort it out for themselves

Don't kid yourself.. 1st off our "lead from behind " in Libya was a major role .The effort to oust QDaffy would not have happened without a significant US contribution.
Now what is more troubling is that the doctrine of "responsibility to protect " that was employed in Libya is an doctrine fully embraced by the Obots ,and whether they admit it or not ;they fully plan to use it in Syria early next year .

Now what is more troubling is that the doctrine of "responsibility to protect " that was employed in Libya is an doctrine fully embraced by the Obots ,and whether they admit it or not ;they fully plan to use it in Syria early next year .Hello again, tom:

Wasn't it YOU who wanted MORE from Obama in Iran? But, when he gave more in Libya, it was a mistake?? You think John McCain is wrong to want us to intervene in Syria?? If we did, you think the Syrians will LIKE us?

Personally, I think we've done ENOUGH damage over there.. If it were me, I'd keep hands OFF while the dust settles... Like I said in another post, it would be GREAT if we could shape that area to our liking. But, we CAN'T. In fact, it COULD be said, that we TRIED that, and THAT'S the reason they HATE us..

Apology over.

excon

Wasn't it YOU who wanted MORE from Obama in Iran? correct . But I did not call for US military intervention. I wanted the President to openly support the opposition and to give non-military assistance to the movement .

You think John McCain is wrong to want us to intervene in Syria?? If we did, you think the Syrians will LIKE us?
Like Libya ,we have no idea who the rebels are .

, I'd keep hands OFF while the dust settles... In the case of Syria ;I fully agree . But I guarantee that the Obots want to intervene (especially Ambassador Rice, Evita , Power, Jarrett, Brennan).

Around and around and around we go and where we will come out nobody knows. I agree with Ex keep your hands off and your noses out and you may win some friends

I'll ask the people of East Timor if they tought it a good idea for Aussie soldiers to be deployed there more than a decade .

Some people have a short memory, Tom, we will leave any time they want us to go, we didn't conquer the place we are there to deter Indonesia in the same way you are in Germany to deter Russia and we are there as part of a UN response, a little detail that escaped ypu in Iraq

We both share the infortunate experience of Afghanistan and the sooner we leave the better

Obama must think running for president is hard, too. He had to appear on The View (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-how-america-views-the-campaign/2012/09/24/1dadf2b8-0690-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_story.html), lie about whose fault the current deficit i (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-claim-that-90-percent-of-the-current-deficit-is-due-to-bush-policies/2012/09/26/e9bfbcd0-077e-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html)s on 60 Minutes, lie to the UN about why Muslims are mad at us and take time out to meet with foreign leaders. Oh wait, he didn't meet with anyone did he?


"Look, if he met with one leader, he would have to meet with 10," and "in this election year, campaigning trumped meetings with world leaders."

Campaigning always trumps everything with Obama, who needs a leader when we can have a campaigner-in-chief? Actually being president is just one of those "bumps in the road" to reelection.

http://www.investors.com/image/RAMFNLclr-092612-bumps-IBD-.jpg.cms

Hello again, Steve:

I too, think the present deficit is the result of the Bush administration... Now, you may not AGREE with me, but I don't think you'd call me a liar. So, can we stop the inflammatory rhetoric?

(Snicker, snicker) Ok, we're not going to do that. I just think you're really depressed because Romney is going to LOSE bigtime, and Paul Ryan will NEVER be president. Plus, you're going to lose your next game...

excon

Yep, all this manufactured outrage will not stop the fact that Romney won't see the presidency. He has as much chance of winning as he has of opening a window on a plane :D.

Funny how the right never speaks of the good policies that Romney brings to the table.

Hello again, Steve:

I too, think the present deficit is the result of the Bush administration... Now, you may not AGREE with me, but I don't think you'd call me a liar. So, can we stop the inflammatory rhetoric?

(Snicker, snicker) Ok, we're not gonna do that. I just think you're really depressed because Romney is gonna LOSE bigtime, and Paul Ryan will NEVER be president. Plus, you're gonna lose your next game...

excon

Dude, WaPo gave him all Pinocchios on the deficit thing. But excuse me if I'm not moved by the "inflammatory rhetoric" ruse. I read what your side says and I know calling Republicans liars is cool, you're still doing it regularly. Obama is a liar, a "supremely skilled liar" were my words I believe. As long as he keeps doing it I'm sticking to it.

Yep, all this manufactured outrage will not stop the fact that Romney won't see the presidency. He has as much chance of winning as he has of opening a window on a plane :D.

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/09/mitt-romney-joke-joking-airplane-windows.html)

You really shouldn't believe everything you read.

Look, if he met with one leader, he would have to meet with 10," and "in this election year, campaigning trumped meetings with world leaders.
Heard KT McFarland on the radio this morning .
She says the reason that he won't meet with any foreign leader is that would give Romney the opportunity to also meet with foreign leaders .Obama wouldn't take the risk of having Romney looking "presidential " by meeting with foreign leaders .

Besides ;he'd have to take off his golf shoes.

Obama wouldn't take the risk of having Romney looking "presidential " by meeting with foreign leaders.
Bwahahahahahaha. It hasn't happened so far.

We haven't had anyone Presidential in the White House since Bush moved out. We have Chicago thugs squatting in it now.

Bwahahahahahaha. It hasn't happened so far.

Then why the fear ? He should've welcomed the opportunity to see Romney stumble .

I found her op ed on the subject :


And something could go very wrong if Obama met with world leaders, especially if he meets with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. Romney has known Netanyahu for years, since they worked together as young men right out of graduate school. They've been friends for decades, and when Romney recently visited Israel, Prime Minister Netanyahu and his wife had Mr. and Mrs. Romney to their house for a private dinner and reunion. People say they know each other so well they finish each other's sentences. The Romney-Netanyahu photo would be two old pals, and would play well with all those Jewish swing voters in Florida.

Contrast that to the last time Netanyahu and Obama met in the Oval Office. Netanyahu lectured Obama and their body language said it all -- they could hardly bare to look at each other. Another photo of those two scowling and wagging fingers will definitely NOT play well with those swing voters in the swing state of Florida.

Yes, yes, there are major issues on the international stage right now. But from the Obama campaign's perspective, none of them trump the getting their man reelected. They figure there will be plenty of time to deal with the world's leaders in a second term.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/why-obama-wont-meet-with-world-leaders-this-week/#ixzz27b4BEKSt

Why Obama won't meet with world leaders this week | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/why-obama-wont-meet-with-world-leaders-this-week/#ixzz27b4BEKSt)
Ah, interpretation of body language, etc. by...

Romney's personal connection with Bibi has nothing to do with looking presidential.

THe should've welcomed the opportunity to see Romney stumble .
You mean like his Olympic Europe tour?

Ah, interpretation of body language, etc. by ....



At least one expert has interpreted it that way (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/05/body-language-expert-obama-has-contempt-in-his-eyes-for-netanyahu-video/) before. It's not that hard to see.

At least one expert has interpreted it that way (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/05/body-language-expert-obama-has-contempt-in-his-eyes-for-netanyahu-video/) before. It's not that hard to see.
You see what you want to see.

You see what you want to see.

Said the pot to the kettle.

I've long wanted to see Jessica Biel naked in my bedroom but I haven't seen that yet. And my wife would certainly object.

It isn't an easy thing for Mitt to be the Great White Hope for the right wing. Or the 1%.

You see what you want to see.

How about actions and words then ? He made Netanyahu sit in a conference room for over an hour while he ate dinner. He insulted Bibi when he thought he was off mike while meeting with Sarkosy .

He is the one who looks oafish and awkward when meeting with foreign leaders. He is the one who made the Dali Lama come into the White House through the service entrance. He is the one who bows to leaders from one end of the world to the other .
He was way over his head from the git-go . Here is the NY Slimes describing the Obama style .


The tensions between Mr. Obama and the Gulf states, both American and Arab diplomats say, derive from an Obama character trait: he has not built many personal relationships with foreign leaders. “He's not good with personal relationships; that's not what interests him,” said one United States diplomat. “But in the Middle East, those relationships are essential. The lack of them deprives D.C. of the ability to influence leadership decisions.”

A Lack of Chemistry

Arab officials echo that sentiment, describing Mr. Obama as a cool, cerebral man who discounts the importance of personal chemistry in politics. “You can't fix these problems by remote control,” said one Arab diplomat with long experience in Washington. “He doesn't have friends who are world leaders. He doesn't believe in patting anybody on the back, nicknames.

“You can't accomplish what you want to accomplish” with such an impersonal style, the diplomat said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/us/politics/arab-spring-proves-a-harsh-test-for-obamas-diplomatic-skill.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1

The article is revealing coming from the Slimes What it says is that Obama ignored “advice from elders on his staff at the State Department and at the Pentagon” in calling for Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to step down.
But by the time the Saudis were crushing democracy protests in Bahrain, Obama had changed his mind, and “largely turned a blind eye.”By the time the Tunisian protests broke out in January 2011 — an angry Mr. Obama accused his staff of being caught “flat-footed.”

AND About that revolution in Iran that the President ignored ? “Months later, administration officials said, Mr. Obama expressed regret about his muted stance on Iran.”Yup ;where he could've made a significant contribution to the region ,he voted Present.
“the stark difference between the outcomes in Cairo and Bahrain illustrates something else, too: his impatience with old-fashioned back-room diplomacy, and his corresponding failure to build close personal relationships with foreign leaders that can, especially in the Middle East, help the White House to influence decisions made abroad.”

Step aside Obama... you've failed !

Even if Mitt wins he will spend YOUR money like a drunk sailor the way the other republican did. You guys never learn though.

It isn't an easy thing for Mitt to be the Great White Hope for the right wing. Or the 1%.

He may not have been my first choice but I have no problem picturing him as president. What isn't an easy thing to see is another presidential election cycle where the 'adversarial' media is so deep in the tank for Obama that if he wins again it will be a complete sham on the American people.

Being neo-conservative must presume a persecution complex.

Being liberal means you must forgo any thinking process... and believe what your party tells you to believe... without question.

the 'adversarial' media is so deep in the tank for Obama that if he wins again it will be a complete sham on the American people.
What are we women and Latinos and blacks and young adults and gays/lesbians seeing in Obama that you are missing?

What are we women and Latinos and blacks and young adults and gays/lesbians seeing in Obama that you are missing?

The question is what are they missing because the media is covering his a$$ instead of doing their job?

Being neo-conservative must presume a persecution complex.

I wouldn't know, I deal in reality.

The question is what are they missing because the media is covering his a$$ instead of doing their job?
Even Rush is frustrated. Fox News too.

Being liberal means you must forgo any thinking process.....and believe what your party tells you to believe...without question.

We don't have to think too hard to realize the other party is full of it.

Even Rush is frustrated. Fox News too.

Meaning what exactly? I have heard nothing of the sort other than I know a number of Fox personalities are fed up with the rest of the media's refusal to do their job and with Media Matters coordinating with the administration and getting away with it.

What's so surprising to find out the rest of the world is against you righties? We think you are crazy, and out of touch. Except for you Speech, that lead in page to our football league is the bomb, love it!

Whats so surprising to find out the rest of the world is against you righties? We think you are crazy, and out of touch. Except for you Speech, that lead in page to our football league is the bomb, love it!

I don't see it that way at all, just because NK and Clete love to hammer us is no indication of how the rest of the world feels. But, I may be a little crazy and definitely not out of touch, but unlike Obama I can't take credit where I don't deserve it, that's just ESPN news. The trophies, now those are my work.

In the end anything that is said or that goes on here doesn't make a difference in anyone's life.

Listening to lefties argue is like watching 12 year old boys arguing about women about women...

Because most of you get everything you know from highly biased news sourcees... and if any of you spent nearly 30 years in and around parts of the government I have... you would see how much the media dupes everyone.

THey don't report the news... the report what they want you to think the news is. Which many times is nothing alike.

Listening to lefties argue is like watching 12 year old boys arguing about women about women.....

Because most of you get everything you know from highly biased news sourcees....and if any of you spent nearly 30 years in and around parts of the government I have...you would see how much the media dupes everyone.

THey don't report the news....the report what they want you to think the news is. Which many times is nothing alike.
I've been watching and listening to the campaigners.

I've been watching and listening to the campaigners.
Same difference actually. I don't believe anything I see on Infomercials either for that matter... or anything a telemarketer tries to sell me.

Of course I don't see EVERYTHING that makes the news unfiltered... but when over 90% of the whole lot of stuff I actually have seen over the years that was distorted beyond recognition many times... you can rightfully assume the rest isn't any different. That's statistics 101. And quite Honestly its even worse in other countries. Like the UK and Italy that I do have a lot of experience with. Being I lived in Italy 6 uninterrupted years... and spent out of every 12 months over the next 20 years there, and Had a SKY satellite dish back in the late 80's and early 90's back when they were still a Ku band service before they had digital satellite TV. Still have access to it from time to time, not to mention the BBC propaganda that's almost as bad as NPR is here.

I've seen enough over the years to no longer have a naïve view of anything a politician or a Journalist of any type has any part of. In fact I lost that back in the mid 80's.

You want an eye opening experience... talk to a secret service guy about what THEY think about the people they have to protect... or did previously. Or anyone that's had to work with them away from the spotlight and cameras... you would be shocked...

So how am I supposed to make an intelligent decision on whom to vote for?

THey don't report the news....the report what they want you to think the news is. Which many times is nothing alike.

And some are just plain idiots without a clue so eager to demonize Republicans they don't even bother to verify satire such as those who took some Politico satire seriously and ran with it, and those who seriously thought Romney didn't know you couldn't open the windows at 35,000 feet.

Sorry, But Mitt Romney's Nickname Is Not “The Stench” (http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/some-people-didnt-really-understand-that-romney)

Mitt Romney Was Joking About Airplane Windows (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/09/mitt-romney-joke-joking-airplane-windows.html)

You can't make this stuff up. Too bad they didn't find it equally funny enough to mock the technology president for not knowing how to make a call on an iPhone, which is at least a true story (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/9/tech-challenge-obama-has-trouble-iphone/).

Same difference actually. I don't believe anything I see on Infomercials either for that matter...or anything a telemarketer tries to sell me.How did you equate the words directly out of Obama's and Romney's mouths to telemarketing and infomercials?

You can't make this stuff up. Too bad they didn't find it equally funny enough to mock the technology president for not knowing how to make a call on an iPhone, which is at least a true story (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/9/tech-challenge-obama-has-trouble-iphone/).I explained that one to you, I guess it didn't take.

I explained that one to you, I guess it didn't take.

Coming from the guy that bought the airplane window story...

I don't see it that way at all, just because NK and Clete love to hammer us is no indication of how the rest of the world feels. But, I may be a little crazy and definitely not out of touch, but unlike Obama I can't take credit where I don't deserve it, that's just ESPN news. The trophies, now those are my work.

Speech if you get hammered it is because your ideas are out of touch with the real world. You want to know how the rest of the world feels, well this week you have a lot of world leaders who will be fawning over you while picking your pocket. Generally speaking the ordinary people of the world aren't in favour of you, they see you for what your leaders project you to be. They see a nation that uses gunboat diplomacy, whose corporations are not good corporate citizens but exploiters, who are a law unto themselves. They see a nation that preaches to others about rights, but fails to deal with poverty within its own borders

speech if you get hammered it is because your ideas are out of touch with the real world. You want to know how the rest of the world feels, well this week you have a lot of world leaders who will be fawning over you while picking your pocket. Generally speaking the ordinary people of the world arn't in favour of you, they see you for what your leaders project you to be. They see a nation that uses gunboat diplomacy, whose corporations are not good corporate citizens but exploiters, who are a law unto themselves. they see a nation that preaches to others about rights, but fails to deal with poverty within its own borders
Problem is this is a US election... what the rest of the world thinks thanks to their being deceived by their so-called journalists has no bearing... because thankfully THEY don't have a vote... any more than we do in their elections.

Or in your own it seems smoothy. You get the leadership you deserve, that seems to be a universal outcome, not the leadership you need.

Yes it is a US election but since you project your power all over the world the rest of us have a vested interest in the outcome, therefore we have an opinion, however uninformed, and it appears, the right to express it. It may be a surprise to you that we are well informed, even at a distance, communications mean that we might even know before your journalists are awake enough to report. Our press is not constrained by vested interests in the US, nor do we need to swallow White House briefings

speech if you get hammered it is because your ideas are out of touch with the real world. You want to know how the rest of the world feels, well this week you have a lot of world leaders who will be fawning over you while picking your pocket. Generally speaking the ordinary people of the world arn't in favour of you, they see you for what your leaders project you to be. They see a nation that uses gunboat diplomacy, whose corporations are not good corporate citizens but exploiters, who are a law unto themselves. they see a nation that preaches to others about rights, but fails to deal with poverty within its own borders

That last line is a clear indication that you sir, are the one out of touch. You've bought into a myth.

. They see a nation that uses gunboat diplomacy
Can't wait until you depend on the Chinese blue water navy to guarantee free passage of the seas .

Totally out of touch with reality Tom, you really believe in the myth. Speech believes it too. You somehow believe you have a patient on democracy and fairness, that you can order the world to your vision of crassness. You don't like it when the rest of us say we don't like your vision. Yes, China might eventually become the successor of the USSR but there is a fatal flaw in your argument, you are more indebted and dependent upon them than we are. If anyone will be sailing in a Chinese lake it is you and your xenophobia is absorbing you. We don't fear the Chinese Tom, they are not the only people in our sphere and they have done nothing to threaten us. You have ignored them for decades and suddenly you have woken and they are there. The result is panic and it isn't pretty

Totally out of touch with reality Tom, you really believe in the myth. speech believes it too. You somehow believe you have a patient on democracy and fairness, that you can order the world to your vision of crassness. You don't like it when the rest of us say we don't like your vision. Yes, China might eventually become the successor of the USSR but there is a fatal flaw in your argument, you are more indebted and dependent upon them than we are. If anyone will be sailing in a Chinese lake it is you and your xenophobia is absorbing you. We don't fear the Chinese Tom, they are not the only people in our sphere and they have done nothing to threaten us. You have ignored them for decades and suddenly you have woken and they are there. The result is panic and it isn't pretty

Maybe you should look at the critical sea lanes they are turning into a Chinese lake then. The US fleet guarantees passage through the worlds seas . You think they will ? You can bleat all you want about us but the truth is you need us .

Totally out of touch with reality Tom, you really believe in the myth. speech believes it too. You somehow believe you have a patient on democracy and fairness, that you can order the world to your vision of crassness. You don't like it when the rest of us say we don't like your vision. Yes, China might eventually become the successor of the USSR but there is a fatal flaw in your argument, you are more indebted and dependent upon them than we are. If anyone will be sailing in a Chinese lake it is you and your xenophobia is absorbing you. We don't fear the Chinese Tom, they are not the only people in our sphere and they have done nothing to threaten us. You have ignored them for decades and suddenly you have woken and they are there. The result is panic and it isn't pretty

You don't know squat about what I believe and quite frankly I find your self-righteous assumptions quite annoying. Might be a good idea for you to evaluate yourself instead of projecting your resentment on others.

Maybe you should look at the critical sea lanes they are turning into a Chinese lake then. The US fleet guarantees passage through the worlds seas . You think they will ? You can bleat all you want about us but the truth is you need us .

You really believe this stuff, Rule Americana, Americana Rules the Waves. If you didn't buy a load of crap from China you wouldn't be interested. Go chase some Somali pirates, someone else is keeping that waterway clear for you. You appear to have somehow confused us with Taiwan. I know it is difficult for you when you can't get your focus off that shinning light in DC to know where any other place in the world is. I suppose you are now threatened by a Chinese aircraft carrier that doesn't have any planes

I am fed up with you telling us you are doing things for us. It's a lie, you are doing it for yourself and when it suits you, you will pull out and you won't give a fig about us