You have no idea how hard it is to live only with a cat
Even if you hate your parents and they hate you back they care for you
I have lost my family due to a war and the corrupted laws that we have here
I work many jobs just to get something to eat for me and my cat
Although when my parents were alive I hated them just like they hated me I would do ANYTHING to have them back
I have never lived in a safe home
I have never felt the love of a mother nor father
Losing them forced me to do everything without guidance which resulted me getting in and out of jail and never doing anything right
If I had their help none of that would have happened
I would have been a better person
The problem is that most teens think that everything is free and don't know that their dads pay for everything
(food, water, rent... etc) and that everything is expensive and that they go many hours a day to get that money
Other than money its so hard living without support from anyone
Doing everything alone is not easy
I can't rent a small safe apartment so I had to go in the most dangerous places because I can hardly pay the rent
Going from job to job because I couldn't go to school and I still can't because I don't have the time nor money which in your case your dad is paying so that you can get a good job in the future and stay in it and have a happy family
So if your parents say no just know that its for your own good and then thank them for their concern because they will not last for ever and you will need it later on
I guess we don't know a good thing until we lose it
I'm sorry if I mistyped some words
I hope you got the picture

you have no idea how hard it is to live only with a cat
even if you hate your parents and they hate you back they care for you
i have lost my family due to a war and the corrupted laws that we have here
i work many jobs just to get something to eat for me and my cat
although when my parents were alive i hated them just like they hated me i would do ANYTHING to have them back
i have never lived in a safe home
i have never felt the love of a mother nor father
losing them forced me to do everything without guidence which resulted me getting in and out of jail and never doing anything right
if i had their help none of that would have happend
i would have been a better person
the problem is that most teens think that everything is free and dont know that their dads pay for everything
(food, water, rent... etc) and that everything is expensive and that they go many hours a day to get that money
other than money its so hard living without support from anyone
doing everything alone is not easy
i can't rent a small safe apartment so i had to go in the most dangerous places because i can hardly pay the rent
going from job to job because i couldnt go to school and i still can't because i dont have the time nor money which in your case your dad is paying so that you can get a good job in the future and stay in it and have a happy family
so if your parents say no just know that its for your own good and then thank them for their concern because they will not last for ever and you will need it later on
i guess we dont know a good thing until we lose it
im sorry if i mistyped some words
i hope you got the picture


Now I'm confused - this is a Q and A board. What is your question? Or is this a discussion - in which case it should be moved.

In this thread you said you quit your job to spend as much time as you could with your girlfriend: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/feeling-guilty-after-relationship-698286.html

Did you quit a job to be with your girlfriend?

Now I'm confused - this is a Q and A board. What is your question? Or is this a discussion - in which case it should be moved.

In this thread you said you quit your job to spend as much time as you could with your girlfriend: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/feeling-guilty-after-relationship-698286.html

Did you quit a job to be with your girlfriend?

Yes I did to spare some hours

And shouldn't this be in the teen section?

>moved to a discussion board<

>moved to a discussion board<


Could this be turned into a blog entry?

It can be on the Teen board only if you ask a question.

Or I can make it a blog essay and leave it open to discussion and comments there.

I ask of who ever reads this not to judge me of who I am now

No one is judging you, but we need to put it in the right place.

No one is judging you, but we need to put it in the right place.

No I meant that you can get the wrong idea of what is written above

Let's put it in the blog.

Let's put it in the blog.

If it suits you then OK :)

So is this you, your story?
Previously you said you had been dating a girl for 5 years and gave up your job and money for her. I don't understand.
But the premise is good. Appreciate your parents, you won't have them forever.

So is this you, your story?
Previously you said you had been dating a girl for 5 years and gave up your job and money for her. I don't understand.
But the premise is good. Appreciate your parents, you won't have them forever.

Yes I did quit one job to spare more time with her and buying gifts almost got me broke
And no there is way more to me

I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. I can see your point by telling others to appreciate what they have.

How old are you? How long ago did your parents pass?

I'm sorry that you had to go through all of this. I can see your point by telling others to appreciate what they have.

How old are you? How long ago did your parents pass?

I am sorry I prefer that I stay unknown
And about 7 years ago

I've read your posts and I realize that you have reservations about telling your location.
Although it would be helpful in understanding some of your posts better.
Would you be comfortable with at least filling us in on your age?
I'm guessing you are fairly young, maybe early 20's.

I've read your posts and I realize that you have reservations about telling your location.
Although it would be helpful in understanding some of your posts better.
Would you be comfortable with at least filling us in on your age?
I'm guessing you are fairly young, maybe early 20's.

I stay unknown for many reasons
One of them is most of the time people take advice from a complete stranger more than someone you know
In other words advice becomes more effective

Even when I give face to face advice I wear a mask

most of the time people take advice from a complete stranger more than someone you know
Actually, that's not true -- or I spent nearly $20,000 and three years in grad school to be told lies.

Most people accept advice from someone they respect, someone who is honest with them, someone who is empathic and can get inside their skin to feel some of their pain.

Inso, by giving your age you will not be opening yourself up to people taking advantage of you, nor does it mean they will know your location. But, rather, many times advice is age specific.

For example, we would not give the same advice to a 15 year old than we would to a 25 year old.

We aren't asking you to reveal anything more personal than your age.

Although I feel great doubt about this
But I am 16

although i feel great doubt about this
but i am 16

Thank you.

Why do you feel great doubt? We only know that you are a male and you are 16. Other than that you are completely anonymous.

although i feel great doubt about this
but i am 16
And that makes your first post in this thread even more valuable because you are speaking to your age group out of great personal suffering and incredible life experience. Now that we know you a little bit and realize you have deep empathy, we respect your advice even more.

Why do you feel great doubt? We only know that you are a male and you are 16. Other than that you are completely anonymous.

Well I have not heard my real name in years
Little numbers of people know who I really am

Well i have not heard my real name in years
little numbers of people know who i really am

And that's okay to us. We don't NEED to know your real name, we can call you Inso, or Jester if you want.

I am sorry you had to go through such hard times in your young life.

although i feel great doubt about this
but i am 16

Wow, I was off quite a bit, wasn't I?
I was guessing a little older because you seem to have had your share (and mine) of pain and inner turmoil, you are very young to have suffered the loss of your parents.
It saddens me to know that, I know that sound generic and across the board, but not only am I someone's child, but I am someone's mother and someone's grandmother, if only I could express it better, I truly am sorry to find that you lost them while you were so young.
By the way, thanks for letting us know your age.
You still are completely anonymous, you know.

Well i have not heard my real name in years
little numbers of people know who i really am

Would you like us to call you by your real name? Would that help you? We won't do it if you don't feel comfortable with it.

I'm amazed with this level of fear of the Government, afraid to give a first name, extremely reluctant to give his age, how/why the OP is using the Internet, posting on a public site.

For that matter, he has computer access.

I hope everyone is right and I am wrong.

Op?
And jester would be nice

op?
and jester would be nice
OP = original post or original poster (you in this thread)

I'm amazed with this level of fear of the Government, afraid to give a first name, extremely reluctant to give his age, how/why the OP is using the Internet, posting on a public site.

For that matter, he has computer access.

I hope everyone is right and I am wrong.

And I fear very few things but corrupted laws is not in the list

Is there any hope for a better life in your country?

and i fear very few things but corrupted laws is not in the list

Then what are you afraid of?

Yes I give all my hope because if you are strong enough to throw a rock you are put in the battle field and everyone is on it from all ages I got injured so they won't let me back in

Then what are you afraid of?

Here the worst force is not the corrupted laws

here the worst force is not the corrupted laws
What is the worst force?

I'm amazed with this level of fear of the Government, afraid to give a first name, extremely reluctant to give his age, how/why the OP is using the Internet, posting on a public site.

For that matter, he has computer access.

I hope everyone is right and I am wrong.

I don't get what you are trying to say

What is the worst force?

People who want revenge on the law
If I got known on the internet fighting the law with my mind instead of my fists I might get killed

and i fear very few things but corrupted laws is not in the list

But your other post (about being an anarchist) seems to state you are concerned about corruption, corrupted laws: "im a person that will never be ruled by someone who kills his own people daily just for fun and money; i will never accept to be used by bad laws; police here rob you in the street; i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule; im sure you have heard of the arab spring; who can see his own brothers die on the battlefeild and stay quiet; im sure you would do the same as i am doing now; what do you know about being put in jail for nothing; and there is no proof that you did it at all; what right does a policeman have to break down the door and order money?? well you want to know me?; im a person that wants to live safely in my home; im a person that wants to live like other people in other countries; tell me who wouldnt be against a bad ruler? you would never understand how it feels; now if u had a bad gov would you do what im doing now or not?"

If that is the case I cannot believe you are on the Internet in "your Country," unconcerned. In many ways you sound like a disgruntled student, somehow who incites other people to act.

people who want revenge on the law
if i got known on the internet fighting the law with my mind instead of my fists i might get killed
Isn't the law part of the corrupt government?

How can you be on the Internet? (In some countries lately, the Internet and smartphones have been a big help to rebels to coordinate their activities.)

i dont get what you are trying to say


You are afraid of something - the Government, the laws, the Police - in your Country but you are on the Internet posting your beliefs.

That's what I'm trying to say.

And this makes no sense at all: "people who want revenge on the law - if i got known on the internet fighting the law with my mind instead of my fists i might get killed"

Do you think the Government looks for names or traces down which computers are being used, which "Provider" addresses are being used?

But your other post (about being an anarchist) seems to state you are concerned about corruption, corrupted laws: "im a person that will never be ruled by someone who kills his own people daily just for fun and money; i will never accept to be used by bad laws; police here rob you in the street; i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule; im sure you have heard of the arab spring; who can see his own brothers die on the battlefeild and stay quiet; im sure you would do the same as i am doing now; what do you know about being put in jail for nothing; and there is no proof that you did it at all; what right does a policeman have to break down the door and order money?? well you want to know me?; im a person that wants to live safely in my home; im a person that wants to live like other people in other countries; tell me who wouldnt be against a bad ruler? you would never understand how it feels; now if u had a bad gov would you do what im doing now or not?"

If that is the case I cannot believe you are on the Internet in "your Country," unconcerned. In many ways you sound like a disgruntled student, somehow who incites other people to act.

"i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule"
Didn't you get that part? Tell me since when violence has been the road to peace
I only fight for self defense (I hardly can anymore) I try to use my mind to solve problems not my hands
And here those rebel people would kill me if I don't go fight with them which I am and they can't realize that minds are way more powerful than fists
And no I'm in a country nearby I got moved to another country after getting seriously injured
And sadly the war and corrupted laws are very close to us and this country now is being effected

You are afraid of something - the Government, the laws, the Police - in your Country but you are on the Internet posting your beliefs.

That's what I'm trying to say.

And this makes no sense at all: "people who want revenge on the law - if i got known on the internet fighting the law with my mind instead of my fists i might get killed"

Do you think the Government looks for names or traces down which computers are being used, which "Provider" addresses are being used?

Nope that's why I don't fear the laws I fear the people

"i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule"
didn't you get that part? tell me since when violence has been the road to peace
i only fight for self defense (i hardly can anymore) i try to use my mind to solve problems not my hands
and here those rebel people would kill me if i don't go fight with them which i am and they can't realize that minds are way more powerful than fists
and no im in a country nearby i got moved to another country after getting seriously injured
and sadly the war and corrupted laws are very close to us and this country now is being effected


Once again you have changed the subject in midstream. Your comment was about laws. I quoted what you said about laws.

You then came back with this post about "tell you when violence has been the road to peace."

First, don't ask me questions. I'm not the one opening threads. You are.

Second - when you don't have an answer you switch topics or completely ignore the question, no matter how many times it's asked.

I am seeing a lot of theories here - nothing but textbook theories.

Is this an example of how you are fighting corruption with your mind?

Your signature says it all: "im a person that never felt love from anyone at all!! even my own parents never gave me anything but hatred all my life the people i loved and i thought loved me died or hurt me - i go by inso the jester: i = irritated; n= negative; s= soulless; o= object"

I'm sorry but I have to leave for work now

Once again you have changed the subject in midstream. Your comment was about laws. I quoted what you said about laws.

You then came back with this post about "tell you when violence has been the road to peace."

First, don't ask me questions. I'm not the one opening threads. You are.

Second - when you don't have an answer you switch topics or completely ignore the question, no matter how many times it's asked.

I am seeing a lot of theories here - nothing but textbook theories.

Is this an example of how you are fighting corruption with your mind?

To be honest most of the time I misunderstand your questions so I answer with what I understood

What questions do you not understand?

What questions do you not understand?

Here I didn't get what she said 100%


But your other post (about being an anarchist) seems to state you are concerned about corruption, corrupted laws: "im a person that will never be ruled by someone who kills his own people daily just for fun and money; i will never accept to be used by bad laws; police here rob you in the street; i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule; im sure you have heard of the arab spring; who can see his own brothers die on the battlefeild and stay quiet; im sure you would do the same as i am doing now; what do you know about being put in jail for nothing; and there is no proof that you did it at all; what right does a policeman have to break down the door and order money?? well you want to know me?; im a person that wants to live safely in my home; im a person that wants to live like other people in other countries; tell me who wouldnt be against a bad ruler? you would never understand how it feels; now if u had a bad gov would you do what im doing now or not?"

If that is the case I cannot believe you are on the Internet in "your Country," unconcerned. In many ways you sound like a disgruntled student, somehow who incites other people to act.

here i didn't get what she said 100%

You don’t understand what said?

Okay - from the top:

“Your other post (about being an anarchist)” - you posted at least once before so it’s your other post - (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-society-culture/anarchy-violence-698171.html) - and said you are an anarchist.

“... seems to state you are concerned about corruption, corrupted laws:” You said (in the post about being an anarchist) about LAWS that you “... a person that will never be ruled by someone who kills his own people daily just for fun and money; I will never accept to be used by bad laws; ...” You also said about CORRUPTION (in the post about being an anarchist): “police here rob you in the street;... what right does a policeman have to break down the door and order money? “

You then questioned me (in the post about being an anarchist), apparently concerning both LAWS and CORRUPTION: “well you want to know me?; I'm a person that wants to live safely in my home; I'm a person that wants to live like other people in other countries; tell me who wouldn't be against a bad ruler? You would never understand how it feels; now if you had a bad gov would you do what I'm doing now or not?" Those are questions you asked me.

I asked you not to ask me questions about what I would do because I’m not here seeking advice, I have no idea where you are so I have no idea what I’d do, and when you can’t have a conversation that makes sense from you side you switch to another topic. In this case, that switch appears to involve me defending myself.

Concerning what I said about the Internet (“If that is the case I cannot believe you are on the Internet in "your Country," unconcerned”) it is difficult to believe that you are in some way being hunted by the Government and the Police but are using the Internet to post information about that very Government and Police. Assuming the Government (and Police) are as corrupt as you say they are, you don’t think someone is tracking you on the Internet?

And concerning this - “ In many ways you sound like a disgruntled student, somehow who incites other people to act. - you sound like someone who stands on the sidelines, a student, and incites other people to act. You address and explain nothing, continue on with veiled references about nothing and when asked a direct question attempt to turn the “conversation” in another direction.

Do you understand now?

Basically that you are trying to provoke people. She also quoted your words, which is what you said, right?

I am having a hard time believing that you are only 16. You mention working... what do you do?

It's also hard to believe that you had a long term relationship at your age. Your threads seem to clash with one another. Doesn't quite add up.

On one of your other threads (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/feeling-guilty-after-relationship-698286.html you “recently got out of a relationship with a really nice girl we have been together for more than 5 years
i gave up everything for her i quit my job my money i gave up my dream my time just to see her smile ...” You have also posted you are 16 and cannot find work. You either were in a relationship from the time you were 11 and you gave up your job OR your life is as dismal you post here.

I’m beginning to think you don’t know your own circumstances in life.

Perhaps a troll?

Perhaps a troll?


I think it's a student, probably in the middle east judging by the phrasing and grammar, practicing his English.

Some parts of the story simply don't make sense.

I think he is a bored teen.

I think I am too willing to give the benefit of the doubt, even though I didn't for a second think he was 16. Give me time I'm learning.

I think I am too willing to give the benefit of the doubt, even though I didn't for a second think he was 16. Give me time I'm learning.


Until someone rings the final bell there is no way to know what the situation is.

I've always thought he was a bored teen. His story changes with every post and just does not make sense half the time. I agree with JudyKay, he is probably from another country.

I'm confused too. In your other thread you stated you just got out of a serious relationship with your girlfriend. A relationship that lasted 5 years. So you started a serious relationship at the age of 11? Your parents have been deceased for 7 years, and you've been supporting yourself every since, living on your own? You would have been 9. You expect us to believe that you got a job, a place to live on your own at the age of 9, and then 2 years later started dating seriously?

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. If you want to lie to us then at least keep your lies in order, we're not that easily fooled. Your lies will have to get a lot better if you want us to start believing you. At least make it realistic.

I think I am too willing to give the benefit of the doubt, even though I didn't for a second think he was 16. Give me time I'm learning.

Ladysam, I too was a lot like you when I first started amhd... I gave people the benefit of doubt... quite a bit. However, I, along with most have been bamboozled time and time again.

Jester, Alty is right! Too many inconsistencies here... I believe that you may be a kid who strives for attention. Now... I could be wrong. I have been in the past, and my ex is proof of that. So... prove me wrong.

Ladysam, I too was a lot like you when I first started amhd... I gave people the benefit of doubt...quite a bit. However, I, along with most have been bamboozled time and time again.

Jester, Alty is right! Too many inconsistencies here... I believe that you may be a kid who strives for attention. Now.... I could be wrong. I have been in the past, and my ex is proof of that. So.... prove me wrong.

If he can prove us wrong that would be something I'd accept, and I'd apologize for doubting him. But, I can't see how he's going to prove us wrong. I realize that some countries are horrendous, and orphaned children have to fend for themselves, dumpster dive, live in cardboard boxes. But this OP is expecting us to believe that he's been on his own since the age of 9, works, pays rent, starting a serious relationship at the age of 11 that lasted for 5 years, and has enough money for a computer and internet access in a country that sends 10 year old children to war armed with rocks.

Ya, just not buying it, and I can't see any explanation that would make me change my mind.

Anyone want to bet that the OP will come back and say something along the lines of "I can't prove it, because I want to remain anonymous. It's not fair that I'm not being believed. But if you don't believe me, that's your problem", and offer no proof at all, or even logic to explain the inconsistencies?

I bet a toaster. :)

How can he prove anything?

How can he prove anything?

I guess he really can't prove it, but he could try to explain why we should believe what are obviously lies.

Are you saying that you believe that he worked, found a job, a place to live a the age of 9, and then started dating at the age of 11 and stayed with this girl for 5 years? Are you saying you believe that at the age of 10 he was sent to war with only rocks to fight against people with guns? Are you saying you believe that he lives in a country so corrupt that the mere mention of going against that government could lead to death, yet he posts about that corrupt government on a website? Most countries where this corruption is, monitor internet access, and even forbid it, yet here he is posting about it, and, even though he can't even feed himself he has a computer and internet access.

Can he prove it? No. Why? Because it's not true. I'd bet a toaster on it.

Because I asked about how he can prove who he says he is means I get stomped on now? Unless we know each other in person, we have absolutely no idea of who any of us really is. Yes, we reveal some of ourselves over time and learn to trust each other over time, but some I have known and trusted turned out not to be trustworthy and no one I really knew.

If I remember, he posted earlier in this thread something about not being in the corrupt country any longer but is in a nearby one. ***ADDED*** Found it -- "and no im in a country nearby i got moved to another country after getting seriously injured and sadly the war and corrupted laws are very close to us and this country now is being effected."

I guess he really can't prove it, but he could try to explain why we should believe what are obviously lies.

Are you saying that you believe that he worked, found a job, a place to live a the age of 9, and then started dating at the age of 11 and stayed with this girl for 5 years? Are you saying you believe that at the age of 10 he was sent to war with only rocks to fight against people with guns? Are you saying you believe that he lives in a country so corrupt that the mere mention of going against that government could lead to death, yet he posts about that corrupt government on a website? Most countries where this corruption is, monitor internet access, and even forbid it, yet here he is posting about it, and, even though he can't even feed himself he has a computer and internet access.

Can he prove it? No. Why? Because it's not true. I'd bet a toaster on it.

You beat me to it, Alty. Good points... all of them. I wouldn't have doubted him if his threads weren't so questionable.

Because I asked about how he can prove who he says he is means I get stomped on now?

Are you kidding me? Nobody has "stomped" on you. Alty was just answering YOUR question.

Get a grip!

Alty asked me, "Are you saying that you believe that..." In other words, now I am looked at suspiciously too.

I simply asked, what possible proof can he give?

I never stomped on you WG! You asked how he can prove it. I said he can't, and then asked if you believe his outlandish stories. He can't prove that they're true, but common sense says they're not, and that's what I'm basing my posts on, common sense.

I never stomped on you, nor did I look at you suspiciously.

Because I asked about how he can prove who he says he is means I get stomped on now? Maybe it's time to take a step back from AMHD for a few hours, or a day, or longer, like all of us have to do once in a while. You were never "stomped on." You are being overly sensitive.

No one here believes the OP's story, there are too many inconsistencies. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt until I found out is supposed REAL age. I seriously doubt that a 9 year old could make it on the streets of a war ravaged country without family intervention. Now he claims to be 16 with a job, apartment, cat (that he can't afford to feed) and internet access (that he can afford).

Maybe it's time to take a step back from AMHD for a few hours, or a day, or longer, like all of us have to do once in a while. You were never "stomped on." You are being overly sensitive.
It suddenly went from being the OP's problem of supplying proof to becoming MY problem. Yes, "stomped on" was a bit much, I admit, but I was in shock when I read that. No, I'm not going to take a step back.

I seriously doubt that a 9 year old could make it on the streets of a war ravaged country without family intervention. Now he claims to be 16 with a job, apartment, cat (that he can't afford to feed) and internet access (that he can afford).
You apparently aren't watching the news lately. And he said he isn't in his home country right now but in one near it. His "apartment" may be in a derelict building and/or with other otherwise homeless refugees, the cat may be a stray, and Internet access can be at a street café or even on a cheap cell phone. We may never know the entire story -- or believe it.

I'm still somewhat on the fence, although I do have my doubts about the age, I try to think of how I know my son reacts to things at times (a bit over zealous and emotional) and place a little of that here.
At this point I'm waiting for his response.
His unwillingness to give any information doesn't help me to understand what he is telling us any better.
In a strange way I hope he is a bored student, troll, just funning with us, while it's not a nice thing to do I would like that better than knowing that (even though just on the internet) I have encountered a young man who has had to struggle this much in so few years. Even if there has been embellishment I do think some of what he has said is possible, other parts I doubt.
I'm just a big softie, at times it's not a good thing, sometimes it serves me well, I don't know which is the case here.
At any rate I'm still a little confused.

I think this thread has gone on too long - there are inconsistencies in the story, certainly. Maybe OP is telling the truth. Maybe he isn't.

My concern is that he is a self-professed anarchist: "a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom."

I think he's succeeded to a degree - suddenly long time AMHD members are in conflict and he hasn't come back with... zip. So he got his disorder.

I don't know about the "revolt" part.

I don't have much input in this, however, I can't help but notice the word "Jester" in his username.


jest·er/ˈjestər/Noun:

2. A person who habitually plays the fool.



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I don't have much input in this, however, I can't help but notice the word "Jester" in his username.


jest·er/ˈjestər/Noun:

2. A person who habitually plays the fool.



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Or plays us for the fool.

If that's his intention, he picked the wrong site.