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paraclete
Aug 21, 2012, 08:07 PM
After successfully forcing the cigarette companies into plain packaging, a new idea has surfaced in Australia, why not ban the noxious product altogether. This must be a tobacco companies worst nightmare
Bid to ban cigarettes for anyone born after 2000 (http://www.smh.com.au/national/bid-to-ban-cigarettes-for-anyone-born-after-2000-20120822-24liy.html)

DrBill100
Aug 21, 2012, 09:15 PM
Thanks for the article.

The comment from the MP Ivan Dean struck me:

“This would mean that we would have a generation of people not exposed to tobacco products”

Immediately thought of the statement of the American prohibitionist Rev. Billy Sunday on the morning they enacted alcohol prohibition in the US:

“The reign of tears is over! The slums will soon be only a memory. We will turn our prisons into factories and our jails into storehouses and corncribs. Men will walk upright now, women will smile and the children will laugh. Hell will be forever for rent!”

speechlesstx
Aug 22, 2012, 08:17 AM
Just ban everything.

paraclete
Aug 22, 2012, 09:35 PM
We already ban noxious narcotics so why not ban tobacco is it any different to coca or marijahana. It has undesirable impacts and yes there was nothing wrong with a ban on alcohol, there are countries in the world where it isn't legal and life goes on. Criminals will do what criminals do, this is no reason for abdicating in favour of legalisation and let's face it what was permitted then would not be permitted today

speechlesstx
Sep 4, 2012, 06:59 AM
Just ban everything.

If progressives have their way they will ban everything. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/us/in-california-banning-bonfires-and-library-napping.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all) Well, except abortion.

paraclete
Sep 4, 2012, 04:33 PM
I think it is more a case of dealing with public health consequences, the more a government becomes involved in provision of health care, the more they will seek to control the costs and nicotine addiction has some severe impacts on the costs of health care in the long run.

In a progressively minded society, society works to reduce the incidence of death, excepting as you say in the case of abortion, so therefore certain activities with high mortality rates are targeted

paraclete
Sep 5, 2012, 05:54 AM
Another nail in the coffin for the coffin nails

http://www.news.com.au/world/india-considers-plain-packaging-for-cigarettes/story-fndir2ev-1226465961027

talaniman
Sep 7, 2012, 11:05 PM
Anything they ban, a criminal can get you cheap!

paraclete
Sep 8, 2012, 09:49 PM
Not the issue Tal we can all get cheap and nasty, but not everyone is going to go searching for it. I applaud India's step If you have been to Asia you know how noxious the place is with cigarette smoke. But this isn't a ban except on effective advertising, that's why the tobacco companies are going ape, they can still sell their products but you have to look harder to decide which brand to buy. In illiterate countries, they rely heavily on logos and brands

paraclete
Sep 21, 2012, 06:34 AM
Here's another first, once again we are leading the charge against rampaging unrepentive capitalism

Lehman Brothers ordered to pay compensation - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-21/lehmann-brothers-test-case/4273896)

speechlesstx
Sep 21, 2012, 07:41 AM
Maybe you can get them to go after Obama buddy and bundler Jon Corzine (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/25/no-justice-in-corzine-case/), nobody seems to want to go after him here.

paraclete
Sep 21, 2012, 04:02 PM
Nah we just want our money back