View Full Version : Tolerance, the Chicago way
speechlesstx
Jul 26, 2012, 02:51 PM
A Chicago Alderman told Chik-Fil-A they weren't welcome (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/ct-met-chicago-chick-fil-a-20120725,0,929023.story) in Chicago because their well known Christian values such as closing on Sundays and supporting traditional marriage - in spite of the fact they do not discriminate in hiring or serving their customers - don't fit in with the inclusive, oh-so-tolerant Chicago way.
If you are discriminating against a segment of the community, I don't want you in the 1st Ward," Moreno told the Tribune on Tuesday.
Moreno stated his position in strong terms, referring to Cathy's "bigoted, homophobic comments" in a proposed opinion page piece that an aide also sent to Tribune reporters. "Because of this man's ignorance, I will now be denying Chick-fil-A's permit to open a restaurant in the 1st Ward."
The mayor of Chicago, a Jew, concurred.
The alderman has the ideological support of Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
"Chick-fil-A values are not Chicago values," the mayor said in a statement when asked about Moreno's decision. "They disrespect our fellow neighbors and residents. This would be a bad investment, since it would be empty."
Guess who IS welcome in Chicago however, that famous anti-Semite Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/13996951-418/rahm-welcomes-help-from-farrakahn-ignores-anti-semitic-remarks.html).
Ignoring Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan’s history of anti-Semitic remarks, Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday welcomed the army of men dispatched to the streets by Farrakhan to stop the violence in Chicago neighborhoods.
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“People of faith have a role to play and community leaders have a role to play in helping to protect our neighborhoods and our citizens. You cannot get there on just one piece of an anti-crime strategy,” the mayor said.
People of faith have a role unless you're a Christian that opposes gay marriage wanting to open a non-discriminating business that is. Other anti-Semitic people of faith who oppose gay marriage? No problem.
Reminder: Louis Farrakhan Blasted Obama for Endorsing Same-Sex Marriage (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/reminder-louis-farrakhan-blasted-obama-endorsing-same-sex-marriage_649002.html)
Using government force to punish a Christian for opposing same sex marriage while welcoming an anti-Semite who also opposes same sex marriage is just a tad hypocritical. No?
Fr_Chuck
Jul 26, 2012, 03:34 PM
And of course if we wanted to boycott Chicago for treating them that way, what names would we be called.
tomder55
Jul 27, 2012, 07:25 AM
Once they taste that chicken and waffle fries ,they will change their mind.
NeedKarma
Jul 27, 2012, 07:30 AM
I guess Chik-a-wahtever has a PR issue on their hands. Let's see how they handle it.
Wondergirl
Jul 27, 2012, 07:37 AM
I guess Chik-a-wahtever has a PR issue on their hands. Let's see how they handle it.
They are falling all over themselves to say that they serve everyone, even gays, and OMG! Even hire them -- and oh, forget what CEO Cathy said.
NeedKarma
Jul 27, 2012, 07:40 AM
They are falling all over themselves to say that they serve everyone, even gays, and OMG! even hire them -- and oh, forget what CEO Cathy said.It's a tempest of their own making, that's for sure.
speechlesstx
Jul 27, 2012, 07:50 AM
I couldn't have imagined this response any more accurately. Chik-Fil-A evil, anti-Semitic, gay marriage hating Farrakhan... crickets chirping.
NeedKarma
Jul 27, 2012, 07:53 AM
Sure, you're entitled to your opinion. I guess some of us don't get as dramatic or enraged all the time.
Some of us just like to sashay around and buy doggie glasses for our pets. :-)
tomder55
Jul 27, 2012, 08:02 AM
The mayor of Boston had taken a similar stand... and then backed off. We don't have any of their franchises here... but I suspect it has something to do with the size of the soft drinks.
speechlesstx
Jul 27, 2012, 08:15 AM
Believe it or not there was a point to this discussion as indicate by the OP:
Using government force to punish a Christian for opposing same sex marriage while welcoming an anti-Semite who also opposes same sex marriage is just a tad hypocritical. No?
Yes or no? Take the doggy glasses off and maybe you'll see the hypocrisy - or not. Which is it?
speechlesstx
Jul 27, 2012, 08:17 AM
The mayor of Boston had taken a simular stand ... and then backed off. We don't have any of their franchises here ....but I suspect it has something to do with the size of the soft drinks.
And most things are fried. It's worth it to have the occasional just made chicken biscuit for breakfast or a sandwich with two pickles and some of those waffle fries. Damn good stuff.
speechlesstx
Jul 27, 2012, 12:11 PM
Oddly enough, Bloomberg declared Chik-Fil-A welcome in NYC. I guess he needed something to try and distract from his suggestion for a nationwide police strike.
P.S. Crickets still chirping over the Chicago hypocrisy.
tomder55
Jul 27, 2012, 04:05 PM
RIP to Don Perry, the long-time head of Chick-fil-A's public relations department ;who died today unexpectedly from a heart attack. I'm sure the pressure from the liberal jihad had nothing to do with it.
Oh yeah... when Obama was on the fence about gay marriage ,or took a position opposing it... did Rhambo Imanuel or Chi town boycott him ?
speechlesstx
Jul 27, 2012, 05:44 PM
RIP to Don Perry, the long-time head of Chick-fil-A's public relations department ;who died today unexpectedly from a heart attack. I'm sure the pressure from the liberal jihad had nothing to do with it.
Oh yeah... when Obama was on the fence about gay marriage ,or took a position opposing it ...did Rhambo Imanuel or Chi town boycott him ?
They waited for him to evolve.
excon
Jul 27, 2012, 05:55 PM
Using government force to punish a Christian for opposing same sex marriage while welcoming an anti-Semite who also opposes same sex marriage is just a tad hypocritical. No?Hello again, Steve:
If that was what they were doing, sure.. But, it ain't.. I don't know how you missed it. They're using their government MOUTHPIECE - not government FORCE.
One they can and SHOULD do. The other they can't.
excon
speechlesstx
Jul 27, 2012, 06:33 PM
Hello again, Steve:
If that was what they were doing, sure.. But, it ain't.. I dunno how you missed it. They're using their government MOUTHPIECE - not government FORCE.
One they can and SHOULD do. The other they can't.
excon
Rahm has since walked it back after Bloomberg's stance and Obama's backtracking today but you really should read my sources. The Chicago alderman wanted to use government force, i.e. the law to strong arm Chik-Fil-A. Your spin doesn't change that.
Really ex, you used to not be so easily taken. I still say it's panic over the likelihood of an Obama loss. You've abandoned reason out of desperation.
excon
Jul 27, 2012, 06:46 PM
Hello again, Steve:
On another thread, you suggested that Texans SHOULD be able to tell their visitors HOW to behave... Why can't Rahm do the same thing?
excon
paraclete
Jul 27, 2012, 06:48 PM
It's a case of you'all need to learn to behave, and the place to start is solving your problems without guns
NeedKarma
Jul 29, 2012, 01:02 PM
P.S. Crickets still chirping over the Chicago hypocrisy.Sorry mate, I was out climbing a high peak in my area with my son (boys weekend) while my daughter relaxed at the in-laws watching the Olympics. What were you doing this weekend?
Wondergirl
Jul 29, 2012, 01:12 PM
In today's Chicago Sun-Times:
On Wednesday August 1st, Mike Huckabee's Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day, Hearty will be hosting Chick-Fil-Gay Appreciation Day.
The Lakeview eatery will be serving fried chicken breast sandwiches on toasted buttered buns with pickles and a side of fried for $10.
All of the proceeds, 100%, will go to Equality Illinois for marriage equality.
speechlesstx
Jul 30, 2012, 06:21 AM
Hello again, Steve:
On another thread, you suggested that Texans SHOULD be able to tell their visitors HOW to behave... Why can't Rahm do the same thing?
excon
The other post was a joke. I can't help it if liberals have no sense of humor. It was darn funny.
speechlesstx
Jul 30, 2012, 06:26 AM
In today's Chicago Sun-Times:
On Wednesday August 1st, Mike Huckabee's Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day, Hearty will be hosting Chick-Fil-Gay Appreciation Day.
The Lakeview eatery will be serving fried chicken breast sandwiches on toasted buttered buns with pickles and a side of fried for $10.
All of the proceeds, 100%, will go to Equality Illinois for marriage equality.
A link would have been nice, your post doesn't make it too clear that this is Hearty Boys helping "flick-the-hate." Good for Hearty Boys.
I'll take a $6 Chik-Fil-A combo to support traditional marriage just because those intolerant idiots think that equals hate.
speechlesstx
Jul 30, 2012, 06:27 AM
Sorry mate, I was out climbing a high peak in my area with my son (boys weekend) while my daughter relaxed at the in-laws watching the Olympics. What were you doing this weekend?
Day 5, crickets still chirping.
NeedKarma
Jul 30, 2012, 06:30 AM
Day 5, crickets still chirping.
Maybe it's not the big issue you make it out to be? That's an option you know.
Surely you have better things to do?
speechlesstx
Jul 30, 2012, 07:32 AM
Let's see, if it's a big enough issue to boycott Chik-Fil-A and have mayors of several major cities chime in then Farrakhan should be at least as much of an issue. But quite obviously the left only wants to hate on conservative Christians who believe in traditional marriage and not black radical anti-Semites who believe in traditional marriage.
NeedKarma
Jul 30, 2012, 07:47 AM
I guess whatever you have that deflects from Romney's gaffes. LOL.
speechlesstx
Jul 30, 2012, 07:50 AM
I guess whatever you have that deflects from Romney's gaffes. LOL.
What, you can't handle more than one thought at a time? That's OK, the silence gives me my answer.
NeedKarma
Jul 30, 2012, 07:54 AM
What, you can't handle more than one thought at a time? That's ok, the silence gives me my answer.
More insults. <sigh> Glad I'm raising my kids to a higher standard.
speechlesstx
Jul 30, 2012, 08:10 AM
Yeah, tell them to avoid watching your behavior here.
speechlesstx
Aug 1, 2012, 06:33 AM
I did my part today, bought some of those bigoted biscuits for the whole office.
NeedKarma
Aug 1, 2012, 06:39 AM
A big helping of fast food is indeed the american way to rebel. LOL.
speechlesstx
Aug 1, 2012, 06:51 AM
I'll rebel against haters any and every way I can.
NeedKarma
Aug 1, 2012, 11:13 AM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/539235_336240503130326_1081223607_n.jpg
speechlesstx
Aug 1, 2012, 11:32 AM
If the store actually discriminated that might be funny, but since they don't it's just irrelevant.
NeedKarma
Aug 1, 2012, 12:06 PM
No one said anything about discrimination so that's all in your head. It's just funny and makes a point.
speechlesstx
Aug 2, 2012, 07:40 AM
No, it's not funny and still irrelevant.
excon
Aug 6, 2012, 07:34 AM
Hello Steve:
You know what I LOVE about living in elite Seattle?? It's that we WALK the WALK, unlike Chicago and Boston. There are NO Chik-Fil-A's in this city. Their homophobia is UNWELCOME, and in THIS town, we put our money where our mouth is...
That's right.. We don't have a Walmart either..
excon
speechlesstx
Aug 6, 2012, 08:05 AM
That's not "walking the walk," that's just intolerance out of ignorance. You won't find any homophobia in Chik-Fil-A.
tomder55
Aug 6, 2012, 07:23 PM
I bet this one gets a lot of Seattle business.
Chick Fil A in Bellingham WA
516 High St Ms 9196, Bellingham WA 98225
Phone Number: (360) 650-7457
excon
Aug 6, 2012, 07:28 PM
Hello again, tom:
Why would any Seattlite drive 100 miles when we have perfectly wonderful fried chicken here at Ezell's. (http://www.ezellschicken.com/)
excon
speechlesstx
Aug 15, 2012, 09:07 AM
Davidson College temporarily suspends Chick-fil-A from school events
(http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/14/davidson-college-temporarily-suspends-chick-fil-a-from-school-events/)
The reason?
“The Davidson College Union Board is firmly committed to building an inclusive community that serves each member of our student body,” Nassar and Joe said in a joint statement Monday.
Building inclusiveness by exclusion. You lefties make no sense.
Wondergirl
Aug 15, 2012, 09:16 AM
Building inclusiveness by exclusion.
Exclusion of a chicken fast-food restaurant chain?
speechlesstx
Aug 15, 2012, 09:39 AM
Did you miss the headline and the link?
Davidson College temporarily suspends Chick-fil-A from school events
(http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/14/davidson-college-temporarily-suspends-chick-fil-a-from-school-events/)
excon
Aug 15, 2012, 09:44 AM
Hello again, Steve:
What is your problem with people who follow their beliefs? You seem to think the church is the only organization that can do that.
Look... Chick-fil-A is entitled to let the country know how it feels about same sex marriage, and the country is entitled to let Chick-fil-A know how IT feels about same sex marriage...
excon
speechlesstx
Aug 15, 2012, 10:12 AM
Been there a million times, my problem is the hypocrisy of protesting and excluding a company that practices non-discrimination in its service and hiring. As has been said repeatedly, IF Chik-Fil-A, the company, and its franchisees discriminated you'd have a case to be made, but they don't so you have no basis, just like this goofy college.
You guys have your priorities backward, declaring people guilty to exact punishment and retribution - guilty until proven innocent. You did it with Chik-Fil-A nationwide and you did it with the Romney "tax dodger" rumor. Now you're excluding to be "inclusive" with no evidence of wrongdoing. That's just bizarre.
excon
Aug 15, 2012, 10:18 AM
but they don't so you have no basis, just like this goofy college. Hello again, Steve:
I'm sorry you don't approve of MY decision making process. But, I'll decide WHO I like, and why. And I'll decide what I'm going to DO about it...
excon
speechlesstx
Aug 15, 2012, 10:36 AM
That's fine by me, but if you're going to argue you really ought to have an argument.
But hey, if you want to punish people before having any evidence of wrongdoing that's up to you. Maybe if franchisees and their employees were union workers you'd change your tune? But who cares if the little guy suffers because of your misdirected anger, or if a man gets branded a tax cheat, murderer and slave master for no valid reason, right?
excon
Aug 15, 2012, 10:44 AM
That's fine by me, but if you're going to argue you really ought to have an argument.
But hey, if you want to punish people before having any evidence of wrongdoing that's up to you. Hello again, Steve:
Again, I'm sorry my evidence doesn't measure up to your high standards... Fortunately, I don't have to meet YOUR standards.. Mine will do just fine.
Even though the owner of Chick-fil-A has the right to speak PUBLICLY about gay marriage, I have the right to say he's WRONG, and to DO whatever I please about it.
excon
speechlesstx
Aug 15, 2012, 11:26 AM
I agree, but the 'owner' of Chik-Fil-A is the corporate head. How many other owners of franchises are you taking your frustration out on who had nothing to do with Cathy's remarks? Why should they have to pay a price??
excon
Aug 15, 2012, 03:18 PM
are you taking your frustration out on who had nothing to do with Cathy's remarks? Why should they have to pay a price????Hello again, steve:
Why?? Because sh1t runs downhill.. Does ANY of the money that crosses their counters GO to corporate?? It DOES... Nuff said. They're culpable
excon
paraclete
Aug 15, 2012, 03:46 PM
Well Ex we will defer to your superior knowledge on the behaviour of sh1t
speechlesstx
Aug 16, 2012, 06:37 AM
Hello again, steve:
Why??? Because sh1t runs downhill.. Does ANY of the money that crosses their counters GO to corporate??? It DOES... Nuff said. They're culpable
excon
They're just trying to make a living.
excon
Aug 16, 2012, 06:49 AM
They're just trying to make a living.Hello again, Steve:
And, the people the Chick-fil-A boss put down are just trying to get by too.
excon
speechlesstx
Aug 16, 2012, 07:06 AM
He didn't put anyone down, he just stated he believes in traditional marriage... the same thing your president did until recently.
I guess you're going to tell me the Family Research Council guard that was shot yesterday by an LGBT volunteer (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57493780/cops-lgbt-volunteer-shoots-conservative-groups-guard/?tag=socsh) deserved it because he works for people who believe in traditional marriage?
excon
Aug 16, 2012, 07:16 AM
I guess you're going to tell me the Family Research Council guard that was shot yesterday by an LGBT volunteer deserved it because he works for people who believe in traditional marriage?Hello again, Steve:
To the ridiculous right, protesting equals murder... Look.. Get a life, and report back...
excon
speechlesstx
Aug 16, 2012, 08:13 AM
Dude, you're the one who has spent the last week telling me that repeating Obama's words "you didn't build that" is as nasty as saying Romney killed a steelworker's wife. What, you've changed your mind?