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FakeTails
Jul 24, 2012, 11:47 AM
Ok well I'll try to give as many details as I can here so I don't have to go back and change anything or have to tell anything else.

Ok so to start, I'm a 16 year old boy, I'll be 17 in 10 days. She's 16, she will be 17 in May next year.

Ok so the girl I like, she lives next door to me weekly, and every other week she lives at her moms, her moms is only like 10 miles away. So I get to see her a lot, we recently started becoming really close friends because we both figured out at the same time that we have a lot in common. But I've liked her since I met her like a year and a half ago. Her brother is my best friend and her mom loves me, her dad doesn't even know me because he doesn't like meeting people. I've told her brother that I like her and he approves of it and thinks I'd be the best boyfriend for her so far, and I'm telling her mom about it this Friday.

So here the beginning of why it's tricky to me, She has a boyfriend. She's had him for two years, they've broken up five times, twice because he cheated (great guy right?) Their last break up was three weeks ago. So I'm honestly just hoping that they break up again soon and I won't have to do anything. Hes been kicked out of his house already because he was doing a lot of things he shouldn't have been, he lies to her like seriously every day, he's not the smartest person in the world. But her mom like seriously hates the guy because everything he's done to her, and her dad is the same way, the only reason they still let them go out is because they don't want to see their daughter in pain because of them.

But yeah I think you see my question here, what should I do?

I plan to just keep waiting for now but I've honestly never loved someone as much as I do her, we talk every day, we are great friends, and her family (besides her dad) loves me. So yeah tell me what you think, Internet.

lula_fifi
Jul 24, 2012, 11:52 AM
Well her current boyfriend does sound like quite a jerk! I say that you tell her how you feel, you seem to be close and, even if she doesn't say that she likes you back, she may even be encouraged to break up with him!

This girl may be trying to find a way out of this relationship; breaking up five times doesn't really make the relationship seem reliable. He has also cheated on her, one reason alone why they should break up, and also, if her parents hate him, then there may not be a civil way for them to get on in later years.

My suggestion; tell her how you feel!

FakeTails
Jul 24, 2012, 11:58 AM
Well her current boyfriend does sound like quite a jerk! I say that you tell her how you feel, you seem to be close and, even if she doesn't say that she likes you back, she may even be encouraged to break up with him!

This girl may be trying to find a way out of this relationship; breaking up five times doesn't really make the relationship seem reliable. He has also cheated on her, one reason alone why they should break up, and also, if her parents hate him, then there may not be a civil way for them to get on in later years.

My suggestion; tell her how you feel!

I'm just scared that it might be too soon, or just the wrong timing all over, I know that she really loves him(or at least told me she did) and she likes to spend time with him, and I'd feel bad if I was the reason the broke up again. I mean I love her with all my heart, so much that everything that use to bother me now just doesn't, I think about her and just start smiling. But I don't know if she feels the same and in the least I'm waiting till I talk to her mom this week, I really want her opinion on the situation. I think it's definitely too early into us becoming close friends for me to say anything yet though.

Mike5462
Jul 24, 2012, 07:59 PM
Don't ask her out just yet. Just tell her that she deserves better. Keep telling her that. Take her out to dinner. Her boyfriend is a jerk anyway. Show her how a man supposed to treat a women. Best of luck to you.

LynseyJane
Jul 24, 2012, 08:13 PM
Say something to her, tell her how you feel about her, but don't say too much, ask her how she really feels about her boyfriend,does she have any idea that you like her A lot?

Enigma1999
Jul 24, 2012, 08:23 PM
Yes her boyfriend IS an idiot, however, she picked him. I don't have empathy for someone who continues to accept this behavior in their lives...

That being said... no. You say NOTHING at this time. Just keep being her friend. Wait to see what happens with him. Again, he sounds like a tool, but it IS her boyfriend...

BethVader
Jul 24, 2012, 08:30 PM
As much as you like this girl, you are only 17 and would be best served just being her friend and focusing your energy on your studies. Take it from someone who thought relationships were of all importance at the age, they are NOT.
The first few relationships are more or less trial-runs for the real adult relationships you will have later in life.
And think about it this way, when you do get to be in your mid-twenties, you're going to get a way better quality girl if she is in college (or graduated) and you have a solid degree and a good job too. Focus on school and what you want to do with your life, and chances are that in the pursuit of what you are interested in, you will meet a girl who shares your interests as well.
Good luck to you. Remember ~ High School relationships won't matter at all 10 years from now, but what you do with your education will.

talaniman
Jul 24, 2012, 08:53 PM
Put those feeling aside and say nothing because confessing love to a female who is in a shaky troubled relationships a recipe for trouble BIG TIME. Respect her relationship, bad as it is, and don't see her EVERY day. That's a good way to be in the friend zone.

Leave her mom out of this as YOUR mom,or dad would be a better choice to get advice and ideas from, but NOT her mom. I understand those intense feelings, but the last thing you need is to woo a hurt female into a rebound, or cheating situation. Or cause more confusion than she has already, and never ignore the fact that this is the choice she made.

That's the most telling part of this. The main fact, despite his behavior, or character, and opposition by everyone, they have been together for two years off and on. Even if she did dump him, chances are she will go back to him. Just my opinion, based on experience. Naw guy,I think you back up to a safer distance, and do your own thing, and find another more available female for now instead of playing the waiting game.

Chances are, she will need a lot of time healing from two years with this bum... if they break up permanently. Sucks when the first love hits you, and she isn't available I know. But play this one smart, because sloppy will break your heart.

FakeTails
Jul 25, 2012, 05:29 AM
As much as you like this girl, you are only 17 and would be best served just being her friend and focusing your energy on your studies. Take it from someone who thought relationships were of all importance at the age, they are NOT.
The first few relationships are more or less trial-runs for the real adult relationships you will have later in life.
And think about it this way, when you do get to be in your mid-twenties, you're gonna get a way better quality girl if she is in college (or graduated) and you have a solid degree and a good job too. Focus on school and what you want to do with your life, and chances are that in the pursuit of what you are interested in, you will meet a girl who shares your interests as well.
Good luck to you. Remember ~ High School relationships won't matter at all 10 years from now, but what you do with your education will.

Well actually my parents met when they were 17 and have been happily married for 25 years now, so you can't lay a statement saying that it doesn't matter for everyone. And as for my studies, I'm homeschooled. My work day is about a hour long.


Put those feeling aside and say nothing because confessing love to a female who is in a shaky troubled relationships a recipe for trouble BIG TIME. Respect her relationship, bad as it is, and don't see her EVERY day. Thats a good way to be in the friend zone.

Leave her mom out of this as YOUR mom,or dad would be a better choice to get advice and ideas from, but NOT her mom. I understand those intense feelings, but the last thing you need is to woo a hurt female into a rebound, or cheating situation. Or cause more confusion than she has already, and never ignore the fact that this is the choice she made.

Thats the most telling part of this. The main fact, despite his behavior, or character, and opposition by everyone, they have been together for two years off and on. Even if she did dump him, chances are she will go back to him. Just my opinion, based on experience. Naw guy,I think you back up to a safer distance, and do your own thing, and find another more available female for now instead of playing the waiting game.

Chances are, she will need a lot of time healing from two years with this bum..............if they break up permanently. Sucks when the first love hits you, and she isn't available I know. But play this one smart, because sloppy will break your heart.

I already have planned to set the feelings aside till they break up because it's the right thing to do, and as for telling her mom, I'm still going to do that, I've already told both my parents but they just don't have much advice for me, most they've told me is "good Luck" and trust me I know not to be a rebound, but what you may not think of is the fact that actually a lot of rebounds for a lot of people can last a lifetime. I will be stepping back from acting how I was though even though I plan to either have her or at least be her best friend, we have so much in common that I at least want to know her a long time if not be with her.

talaniman
Jul 25, 2012, 06:24 AM
Is she home schooled as well?

FakeTails
Jul 25, 2012, 06:45 AM
Is she home schooled as well?

No she is not sadly, I met her because she lives next door to me. She's public schooled.

talaniman
Jul 25, 2012, 07:07 AM
How long have you been friends,and neighbors? Sorry for the questions, just a clearer picture is the goal. While you are right to believe anything can happen, it may be unrealistic to bet the bank on it. Rebounds tend to last only as long as the healing party needs it, while the one who is happy gets disapointed and hurt, and you have a lot more time on your hands, and she has many more options than you do.

While you are "in love", never assume her feelings are the same, they are not now, at least see the obstaclesof your position,especially since you feel the need to involve her family in your hopeful romance.

Is it possible you are not American? Or that your own parents are letting you learn a life lesson about love and romance on your own? Correct me if I'm wrong but have you ever dated?

FakeTails
Jul 25, 2012, 11:41 AM
How long have you been friends,and neighbors?? Sorry for the questions, just a clearer picture is the goal. While you are right to believe anything can happen, it may be unrealistic to bet the bank on it. Rebounds tend to last only as long as the healing party needs it, while the one who is happy gets disapointed and hurt, and you have a lot more time on your hands, and she has many more options than you do.

While you are "in love", never assume her feelings are the same, they are not now, at least see the obstaclesof your position,especially since you feel the need to involve her family in your hopeful romance.

Is it possible you are not American? Or that your own parents are letting you learn a life lesson about love and romance on your own? Correct me if I'm wrong but have you ever dated?

We've known each other for a year and a half, we've been neighbors for five years (didn't know she lived there till last year) and we've been friends for about 10 months now, and really good friends for about a month or two now. And I know rebounds are not always (hardly at all) successful, I was just pointing it out.

And I do not assume she loves me too at all, and I don't feel the need to involve her family but I love her family and they are cool and I would like to know her moms opinion.

And no I'm from the USA, I live there still. And yes this will be my first girlfriend being homeschooled my whole life I couldn't get out much.

talaniman
Jul 25, 2012, 12:22 PM
Don't make impulsive decision based on feelings,and hardly any facts. That's a good way to be stuck,and miserable. And I feel talking to her mom will poison this friendship, as its like going behind her back, instead of through her first, but that's a western point of view.

FakeTails
Jul 25, 2012, 07:12 PM
Don't make impulsive decision based on feelings,and hardly any facts. Thats a good way to be stuck,and miserable. And I feel talking to her mom will poison this friendship, as its like going behind her back, instead of thru her first, but thats a western point of view.

Well please tell me how you think it'll poison it, I'm always up for listening to more reasons, and friendship with her mom or with her? And going through her at this moment would be highly disateres.

talaniman
Jul 25, 2012, 08:30 PM
Well have you thought what this girl will think about you asking for advice about winning her heart from her mom who hates the guy she loves??

BethVader
Jul 26, 2012, 12:08 AM
FAKETAILS: Well actually my parents met when they were 17 and have been happily married for 25 years now, so you can't lay a statement saying that it doesn't matter for everyone.

Your parents are in the vast MINORITY. Good for them, but not a good example of real life.

FakeTails
Jul 26, 2012, 05:46 AM
Well have you thought what this girl will think about you asking for advice about winning her heart from her mom who hates the guy she loves???

I'm not going to be asking her for advice to win her daughters heart, I'm going to be asking her weather she thinks it's a good idea or not, and If she thinks I'd even be good for her. I have no intention for asking for advice to win her daughter over.

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 05:57 AM
I'm not going to be asking her for advice to win her daughters heart, I'm going to be asking her weather she thinks it's a good idea or not, and If she thinks I'd even be good for her. I have no intention for asking for advice to win her daughter over.


This is another case of someone coming on, asking a question and then arguing with the advice.

Your parents are very far out of the norm, by the way. If you want statistics about young relationships I'm sure someone has them and will share.

I see two guaranteed ways to drive this girl out of your life: (1) Talk to her mother about her, her boyfriend, her and her boyfriend, you and her; (2) Talk to her about what a loser her boyfriend is. Guarantee she will defend him. Guarantee she will decide you're the meddling loser. If her relationship with "the boyfriend" ends tomorrow she still will want no part of you.

In my teens - and I'm sure I'm not the exception - I stayed in relationships because everyone hated "him" and so I defended him.

I'm sure you're home schooled for a reason but my concern always remains the same - not necessarily a well rounded education and USUALLY no interaction with peers.

FakeTails
Jul 26, 2012, 06:35 AM
This is another case of someone coming on, asking a question and then arguing with the advice.

Your parents are very far out of the norm, by the way. If you want statistics about young relationships I'm sure someone has them and will share.

I see two guaranteed ways to drive this girl out of your life: (1) Talk to her mother about her, her boyfriend, her and her boyfriend, you and her; (2) Talk to her about what a loser her boyfriend is. Guarantee she will defend him. Guarantee she will decide you're the meddling loser. If her relationship with "the boyfriend" ends tomorrow she still will want no part of you.

In my teens - and I'm sure I'm not the exceptions - I stayed in relationships because everyone hated "him" and so I defended him.

I'm sure you're home schooled for a reason but my concern always remains the same - not necessarily a well rounded education and USUALLY no interaction with peers.

All right, well first off. I'm not arguing with all the advice, I'm purely showing my point and what I think.

And I know my parents are deffintally not good examples of a everyday couple, nor would I or do I live by their example, I was simply pointing out that yes it can happen.

And I haven't even totally decided what I'll say to her mon yet about anything, and if it comes down to I have not made my Decission by then I have another matter I need to discuss with her that I can use instead. And I am not going to medle in their relationship, seeing how I am her boyfriends friend too I'm not planing on bashing him, I will wait till something happens on its own.

And yes I know the generally teenaged like to "fight the power" and defend what everyone else considers wrong, which again is why I don't plan to say anything about him being wrong.

And well your opinion on homeschooling is your opinion, I don't see the point to tell you otherwise since you seem to be set in your ways. But one thing you are right about is that; yes there is little to no social interaction unless you make the effort to meet people yourself.

saubreen
Jul 26, 2012, 06:36 AM
Just try to make her see things in a clearer way. Ask her what she wants and if the person she is in relationship with is reliable.. once a liar is always a liar. She might react at first but when you will put down all the situations where that guy proved to be wrong before her, she might be able to think something... also you have to help her to come out of this.. its never necessary that she might accept you immediately but seeing your selfless concern for her would draw her to you. Hope it helps you

talaniman
Jul 26, 2012, 07:15 AM
I'm not going to be asking her for advice to win her daughters heart, I'm going to be asking her weather she thinks it's a good idea or not, and If she thinks I'd even be good for her. I have no intention for asking for advice to win her daughter over.

What's the difference? What would even be the point except to reveal your interest in her daughter? What are you accomplishing? Besides the excitement, and drama of actively pursuing romance with a female that's not available, nor appears to be any time soon.

Drop this whole line of thinking, because the moms opinion doesn't matter, nor does it hold sway over her daughter. Of course she would be delighted at having you as a partner,over the current guy, but the daughter will not be budged by outside influence. Not even yours.

I know its hard my friend, to let go, as young love is a strong motivation, and sucks when its not returned. Especially the first love experience,but in truth, their will be others.

Right now, you may be a bit carried away by those feelings, and are leaving yourself open to a disaster pursuing in any way a female whose heart is committed to another. This scenario never turns out well no matter how right it seems.

Focus else where, and get your emotions under control, and tell your excited heart to shut up, and let your brain lead.

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 07:30 AM
And I haven't even totally decided what I'll say to her mon yet about anything, and if it comes down to I have not made my Decission by then I have another matter I need to discuss with her that I can use instead. And I am not going to medle in their relationship, seeing how I am her boyfriends friend too I'm not planing on bashing him, I will wait till something happens on its own.

And well your opinion on homeschooling is your opinion, I don't see the point to tell you otherwise since you seem to be set in your ways. But one thing you are right about is that; yes there is little to no social interaction unless you make the effort to meet people yourself.


We are all entitled to opinions. I have a problem with home schooling. One comment doesn't mean I'm set in my ways. I find home schooled people don't develop social skills where their peers are involved "simply" because they don't have much opportunity to do so.

I realize that home schooled people do take the same standard exams that other students need to pass. You are 17, correct, probably going into your Senior year of high school? Hasn't the person who is home schooling you talked to you about your spelling? I come from a family of teachers. I'm not sure that someone who knew me well would be as "hard on me" (for lack of another way to describe it) as my teachers were.

Enigma1999
Jul 26, 2012, 09:49 AM
Faketails, seriously, just drop it! Everyone has given good advice. Now take it and roll with it.

Leave this girl ALONE. Be friends and support her like a friend. Don't speak to her mommy. Just let it be. You are starting to sound obsessive! And really... what's better? Her idiot boyfriend or an obsessive friend? Really not much different...

... just saying

FakeTails
Jul 26, 2012, 02:27 PM
Whats the difference? What would even be the point except to reveal your interest in her daughter? What are you accomplishing? Besides the excitement, and drama of actively pursuing romance with a female thats not available, nor appears to be any time soon.

Drop this whole line of thinking, because the moms opinion doesn't matter, nor does it hold sway over her daughter. Of course she would be delighted at having you as a partner,over the current guy, but the daughter will not be budged by outside influence. Not even yours.

I know its hard my friend, to let go, as young love is a strong motivation, and sucks when its not returned. Especially the first love experience,but in truth, their will be others.

Right now, you may be a bit carried away by those feelings, and are leaving yourself open to a disaster pursuing in any way a female whose heart is committed to another. This scenario never turns out well no matter how right it seems.

Focus else where, and get your emotions under control, and tell your excited heart to shut up, and let your brain lead.

Well the difference is right there... I'm not going to be asking for advice on how to win her heart. I'm going to be asking weather she personally thinks it's a good idea or not, I'm not asking for information on the girl. And there is honestly no other point then what I stated above, I'm not actively pursuing her either, at this moment in time I am purly trying to be her friend and just be there for her.

And I don't want her mom to change the girls mind, or sway her, I already know that her mom has pretty much no say on the matter, otherwise they wouldn't be together. And I'm not trying to either.

And I honestly don't see the point in letting this go, I know that the chance of the relationship between me and her even if we get together has a high probability to go bad, but all the same why not take the risk.

And this scenario has no reason to turn bad unless I actually do something while they're still together, which I am not going to.



We are all entitled to opinions. I have a problem with home schooling. One comment doesn't mean I'm set in my ways. I find home schooled people don't develop social skills where their peers are involved "simply" because they don't have much opportunity to do so.

I realize that home schooled people do take the same standard exams that other students need to pass. You are 17, correct, probably going into your Senior year of high school? Hasn't the person who is home schooling you talked to you about your spelling? I come from a family of teachers. I'm not sure that someone who knew me well would be as "hard on me" (for lack of another way to describe it) as my teachers were.

You are now taking this conversation to a whole new subject, which you simply bashing homeschooling on, so I don't see the point in continuing a conversation with you. Thanks for all your help in this situation though, feel free to continue talking if you would like continue with the actual subject at hand.

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 02:40 PM
Well the difference is right there... I'm not going to be asking for advice on how to win her heart. I'm going to be asking weather she personally thinks its a good idea or not, I'm not asking for information on the girl. And there is honestly no other point then what I stated above, I'm not actively pursuing her either, at this moment in time I am purly trying to be her friend and just be there for her.

And I don't want her mom to change the girls mind, or sway her, i already know that her mom has pretty much no say on the matter, otherwise they wouldn't be together. And I'm not trying to either.

And I honestly don't see the point in letting this go, I know that the chance of the relationship between me and her even if we get together has a high probability to go bad, but all the same why not take the risk.

And this scenario has no reason to turn bad unless I actually do something while they're still together, which I am not going to.




You are now taking this conversation to a whole new subject, which you simply bashing homeschooling on, so I don't see the point in continuing a conversation with you. Thanks for all your help in this situation though, feel free to continue talking if you would like continue with the actual subject at hand.


Sorry. But you can't direct the Board.

I'm not bashing home schooling. Sometimes there's a need.

I AM saying that you have no experience interacting with female, and I blame that on home schooling. I know you're "purly" trying to be "her" friend - but why (again) are you talking to her mother?

Thanks for granting me permission to continue "talking" but I don't think I actually need it.

FakeTails
Jul 26, 2012, 02:50 PM
Sorry. but you can't direct the Board.

I'm not bashing home schooling. Sometimes there's a need.

I AM saying that you have no experience interacting with female, and I blame that on home schooling. I know you're "purly" trying to be "her" friend - but why (again) are you talking to her mother?

Thanks for granting me permission to continue "talking" but I don't think I actually need it.

I wasn't directing the board, I was just saying its not the topic that was meant to be discussed here.

And you honestly have no room to say weather I do or do not have experience with "females" because even being homeschooled I have had several chances to talk to many many people of all ages and genders.

Purely, my bad. But the reason I am talking to her mother is, I would like to know what she thinks of me as a person (the mother) and If it of not she thinks I'd be OK for her daughter. I think that asking the mother(and father) first is a considerate thing to do that no one my age actually takes the time to do anymore.

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 03:49 PM
I wasn't directing the board, I was just saying its not the topic that was meant to be discussed here.

And you honestly have no room to say weather I do or do not have experiance with "females" because even being homeschooled I have had several chances to talk to many many people of all ages and genders.

Purely, my bad. But the reason I am talking to her mother is, I would like to know what she thinks of me as a person (the mother) and If it of not she thinks I'd be ok for her daughter. I think that asking the mother(and father) first is a considerate thing to do that no one my age actually takes the time to do anymore.


I disagree - I do not find it to be considerate to ask a mother what she thinks about you dating her daughter BEFORE you actually date her daughter WHEN her daughter is in a relationship, whether you approve of the relationship.

In fact, I think that's creepy.

You aren't asking for the girl's hand in marriage AND what does it matter what the mother thinks of you in the long run - ?

I thought you said you had no "experiance" with girls because you are home schooled. In fact, I thought that was the very purpose of mentioning home schooling.

You have spoken to many people of "all" genders? I thought there were only two - ?

Look, I think you've been sheltered. I think at your age you are at a level with the 12 and 13 year olds who post about their first crush. That may or may not be a bad thing. Do I think it will ultimately cause you problems? Yes. Do I think it's a result of home schooling? I thought so, but if you've had a lot of exposure to girls/women, then maybe not.

The "usual" way to learn about the other sex is to go to school with the other sex, get to know the other sex on all levels, get comfortable with them.

You need to get very real here - the girl of your dreams is involved with someone else. Talking to her mother about what she thinks about you is going to end your relationship with her before it begins. If somebody would come to my door and ask what I think of him concerning my stepchildren I would DEFINITELY speak to his parents, because I would be afraid he's a stalker. Maybe it's just me.

Walk away before you make a fool of yourself.

(And it's whether, not weather. Please.)

FakeTails
Jul 26, 2012, 05:45 PM
I disagree - I do not find it to be considerate to ask a mother what she thinks about you dating her daughter BEFORE you actually date her daughter WHEN her daughter is in a relationship, whether or not you approve of the relationship.

In fact, I think that's creepy.

You aren't asking for the girl's hand in marriage AND what does it matter what the mother thinks of you in the long run - ?

I thought you said you had no "experiance" with girls because you are home schooled. In fact, I thought that was the very purpose of mentioning home schooling.

You have spoken to many people of "all" genders? I thought there were only two - ?

Look, I think you've been sheltered. I think at your age you are at a level with the 12 and 13 year olds who post about their first crush. That may or may not be a bad thing. Do I think it will ultimately cause you problems? Yes. Do I think it's a result of home schooling? I thought so, but if you've had a lot of exposure to girls/women, then maybe not.

The "usual" way to learn about the other sex is to go to school with the other sex, get to know the other sex on all levels, get comfortable with them.

You need to get very real here - the girl of your dreams is involved with someone else. Talking to her mother about what she thinks about you is going to end your relationship with her before it begins. If somebody would come to my door and ask what I think of him concerning my stepchildren I would DEFINITELY speak to his parents, because I would be afraid he's a stalker. Maybe it's just me.

Walk away before you make a fool of yourself.

(And it's whether, not weather. Please.)

Well I'll give you that, I don't see how that would be considered "creepy" but I will say that you are right that if I was to tell her while she's in a relationship with another guy even if she doesn't approve of it it wouldn't turn out so well.

And no when I said "experiance" I meant that I have not had a girlfriend, I have had a bunch of friends, girls and boys alike.

And yes, "All" meaning both, they are interchangeable words in this situation.

And what brings you to that conclusion?

And the "usual" way isn't always the case, another way to get to know the other sex, or anyone really, is by talking to them, getting to know them, you do not need to go to public school for that to happen.

And end my relationship with who? The daughter or the mother? And what does this have to do with stepchildren again? And I highly doubt her mom will think of me as a stalker, and I'd she did she's the type of person to bring it up right there.

And walk away from telling the mom or from loving the girl?

(grammatical errors will occur at times, I appologize for the inconvenience.)

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 05:50 PM
Well I'll give you that, I don't see how that would be considered "creepy" but I will say that you are right that if I was to tell her while she's in a relationship with another guy even if she doesn't approve of it it wouldn't turn out so well.

And no when I said "experiance" I meant that I have not had a girlfriend, I have had a bunch of friends, girls and boys alike.

And yes, "All" meaning both, they are interchangeable words in this situation.

And what brings you to that conclusion?

And the "usual" way isnt always the case, another way to get to know the other sex, or anyone really, is by talking to them, getting to know them, you do not need to go to public school for that to happen.

And end my relationship with who? The daughter or the mother? And what does this have to do with stepchildren again? And I highly doubt her mom will think of me as a stalker, and I'd she did she's the type of person to bring it up right there.

And walk away from telling the mom or from loving the girl?

(grammatical errors will occur at times, I appologize for the inconvenience.)


What brings me to what conclusion?

I have stepchildren. I told you how I would react if you showed up at my door for whatever reason you intend to show up at this mother's door. If you can't understand that, I also have dogs. Fill in the word "dogs" in the place of stepchildren.

I'm not going to argue your social experiences, your large circle of friends, your knowledge of girls/women, why this is your first girlfriend. I continue to belief there is a lot more interaction with a lot more people if you are "trapped" in school with them every day from 8AM to 3:30PM. You don't think so. We have different beliefs, and I'll leave you to yours.

I've said all I have to say on the subject.

FakeTails
Jul 26, 2012, 06:08 PM
What brings me to what conclusion?

I have stepchildren. I told you how I would react if you showed up at my door for whatever reason you intend to show up at this mother's door. If you can't understand that, I also have dogs. Fill in the word "dogs" in the place of stepchildren.

I'm not going to argue your social experiences, your large circle of friends, your knowledge of girls/women, why this is your first girlfriend. I continue to belief there is a lot more interaction with a lot more people if you are "trapped" in school with them every day from 8AM to 3:30PM. You don't think so. We have different beliefs, and I'll leave you to yours.

I've said all I have to say on the subject.

This conclusion: "Look, I think you've been sheltered. I think at your age you are at a level with the 12 and 13 year olds who post about their first crush. That may or may not be a bad thing. Do I think it will ultimately cause you problems? Yes. Do I think it's a result of home schooling? I thought so, but if you've had a lot of exposure to girls/women, then maybe not."

And actually me and her are meeting up somewhere to talk, me and her are friends.

(and it's believe, not belief. Please.)

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 06:23 PM
This conclusion: "Look, I think you've been sheltered. I think at your age you are at a level with the 12 and 13 year olds who post about their first crush. That may or may not be a bad thing. Do I think it will ultimately cause you problems? Yes. Do I think it's a result of home schooling? I thought so, but if you've had a lot of exposure to girls/women, then maybe not."

And actually me and her are meeting up somewhere to talk, me and her are friends.

(and it's believe, not belief. Please.)


Sorry. I wasn't even home school AND I went to college AND I got into law school. Amazing.

While we're on the subject it's not me and her. It's she and I.

FakeTails
Jul 26, 2012, 06:49 PM
Sorry. I wasn't even home school AND I went to college AND I got into law school. Amazing.

While we're on the subject it's not me and her. It's she and I.

What does you not being homeschooled and going to college change anything? I am also going to college just to let you know.

And thanks for the help.

JudyKayTee
Jul 26, 2012, 06:51 PM
What does you not being homeschooled and going to college change anything? I am also going to college just to let you know.

And thanks for the help.


Any time. Sure - let me explain what just happened.

I corrected your spelling. You're in high school.

You correct my spelling. I'm a college graduate.

If you still don't get the humor, let me know.

talaniman
Jul 26, 2012, 09:12 PM
You could benefit reading about similar experience on this forum about how pursuing some one that has someone actually works out. There are many of those similar threads. Many even includes the family members, and it generally ends in disaster.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dating/boy-meets-girl-girl-has-boyfriend-girl-cheats-boy-then-girl-breaks-up-boyfriend-lost-569661.html

Bottom line, you can listen to the advice and learn from the experience of others, or you can learn the hard way, by doing it YOUR way.

So go ahead do it your way. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst, is my last bit of advice. Please keep us updated.

FakeTails
Jul 27, 2012, 12:41 AM
Any time. Sure - let me explain what just happened.

I corrected your spelling. You're in high school.

You correct my spelling. I'm a college graduate.

If you still don't get the humor, let me know.

Yeah I got it haha, Ive just been a little uh, distracted today because I was planing on telling her mom tomorrow but now I'm second guessing myself, but if I'm doing that then I wasn't really art in stone to begin with so it probably isn't a good idea to do this right now anyway.. Hmm.. Well she actually might be too busy tomorrow anyway do I might get a little more time.


You could benefit reading about similar experience on this forum about how pursuing some one that has someone actually works out. There are many of those similar threads. Many even includes the family members, and it generally ends in disaster.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dating/boy-meets-girl-girl-has-boyfriend-girl-cheats-boy-then-girl-breaks-up-boyfriend-lost-569661.html

Bottom line, you can listen to the advice and learn from the experience of others, or you can learn the hard way, by doing it YOUR way.

So go ahead do it your way. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst, is my last bit of advice. Please keep us updated.

And thanks, its nice to read all of that even though it's not exactly the same as my situation it's sort of close. I'll keep you guys updated.

JudyKayTee
Jul 27, 2012, 05:48 AM
You could benefit reading about similar experience on this forum about how pursuing some one that has someone actually works out. There are many of those similar threads. Many even includes the family members, and it generally ends in disaster.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dating/boy-meets-girl-girl-has-boyfriend-girl-cheats-boy-then-girl-breaks-up-boyfriend-lost-569661.html

Bottom line, you can listen to the advice and learn from the experience of others, or you can learn the hard way, by doing it YOUR way.

So go ahead do it your way. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst, is my last bit of advice. Please keep us updated.


Right to the chase - we're on the same page here but I always like what you have to see, seek it out. This sums it up.