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Christopher2123
Jul 3, 2012, 03:59 PM
Okay this is the only way I feel safe to ask this question. Please help me if you can! My boyfriends mother has been dealing with the DSS in Harford County for years. They have taken children out of the family for unknown reasons and possibly illegal reasons. I am currently pregnant, my boyfriend and I are being told that they will find a way to come and take our baby. We are so scared and can not get a straight answer from anyone. Can they take our baby even though the DSS have nothing on either one of us? Can they come take our baby just to get back at his mother? That's what her lawyer seems to believe. He believes they will come to the hospital and take him! Is their anything we can do to protect our baby? PLEASE HELP US! WE ARE SO SCARED AND BARLEY ADULTS! WE NEED Someone's HELP PLEASE!

ScottGem
Jul 3, 2012, 04:05 PM
Move out of the state.

Barring that, if DSS is corrupt and out to get you, you have to prove that corruption. If your lawyer doesn't think he can fight them, then go to the media or get a new lawyer.

Legally they need grounds to take your child. Of course the fact that you are not married doesn't help.

JudyKayTee
Jul 3, 2012, 04:06 PM
I don't know what "we are barely adults" means as it relates to being old enough to have a baby - BUT in general, no, DSS cannot take YOUR baby because of your mother-in-law's history UNLESS you are living with her, she will be providing child care, you are not keeping your child "safe" from her.

I find it difficult to believe that no one knows why the children were taken from her home or why they would be taken illegally. DSS has lots to do without framing people.

What are the details you are comfortable sharing?

Fr_Chuck
Jul 3, 2012, 04:25 PM
What are you ages, if you are young teens they may feel you are not mature enuogh to raise the kids.

Where do you live, if you live in the same house as a person who has lost there kids you have a good chance of losing yours also.

If you live in your own home, are old enough and mature enough to raise kids ( by others judgement not your opinion)

If you have a family income able to provide for the children

Nothing to worry about

JudyKayTee
Jul 3, 2012, 04:31 PM
I find the "we're having a baby" and the "we're barely adults" statements in the same sentence to be ludicrous.

I see a boyfriend/girlfriend situation and probably the cycle continues.

ScottGem
Jul 3, 2012, 07:16 PM
I see a boyfriend/girlfriend situation and probably the cycle continues.

That's the word; cycle. Children having children. Mom got pregnant at 16 so what's wrong with me having sex. It is a vicious cycle.

Christopher2123
Jul 4, 2012, 07:43 AM
What could the media do?



Move out of the state.

Barring that, if DSS is corrupt and out to get you, you have to prove that corruption. If your lawyer doesn't think he can fight them, then go to the media or get a new lawyer.

Legally they need grounds to take your child. Of course the fact that you are not married doesn't help.

Christopher2123
Jul 4, 2012, 07:51 AM
We are 18 years of age we are not living with het
E just got a home of our own. They know the reasons
I'm just not comfortable putting why out in public I do not want them knowing who I am and it was not anything like abuse nothing that serious. I will share that they ha e been trying to get the children back for a few years now the mother has to live in another state to keep her children safe but I do not understand why the lawyer is saying it would be smarter for us to go with her when there is still a chance they could take our baby there. I don't want to leave my family. Then if something happened we would ha r no chance. How are we supposed to do this we can't afford a lawyer I mean we do make money but not that much!

I don't know what "we are barely adults" means as it relates to being old enough to
have a baby - BUT in general, no, DSS cannot take YOUR baby because of your mother-in-law's history UNLESS you are living with her, she will be providing child care, you are not keeping your child "safe" from her.

I find it difficult to believe that no one knows why the children were taken from her home or why they would be taken illegally. DSS has lots to do without framing people.

What are the details you are comfortable sharing?

JudyKayTee
Jul 4, 2012, 08:05 AM
What could the media do?

The media can investigate your claims and get publicity for the case. Sometimes pressure works and if the Child Protection Unit is dishonest publicity can prevent this from happening to someone else.

JudyKayTee
Jul 4, 2012, 08:07 AM
We are 18 years of age we are not living with het
e just got a home of our own. They know the reasons why
I'm just not comfortable putting why out in public I do not want them knowing who I am and it was not anything like abuse nothing that serious. I will share that they ha e been trying to get the children back for a few years now the mother has to live in another state to keep her children safe but I do not understand why the lawyer is saying it would be smarter for us to go with her when their is still a chance they could take our baby there. I don't want to leave my family. Then if something happened we would ha r no chance. How are we supposed to do this we can't afford a lawyer I mean we do make money but not that much!


Why would your Attorney tell you to leave the State when you have nothing to do with the alleged abuse? This makes no sense.

She doesn't live with you, she is out of State and will have no contact with your child, you have no record nor does your boyfriend.

I know you aren't comfortable posting it but without more info this just doesn't make sense.

ScottGem
Jul 4, 2012, 09:00 AM
What Judy said about the media.

So the attorney is giving you the same advice I did. The point is, if the agency is as corrupt and powerful as you say, then leaving the state may be your only option.

Christopher2123
Jul 4, 2012, 10:16 AM
Honestly with all of you just telling ne there is no reason for the DSS to take the baby if we are not involved with his mother then there is no reason for them to take our baby really helps a lot. I wish I could give more details but I'm afraid to give too much. Thank you for all of your advice if anyone has anymore. I'm all ears!

JudyKayTee
Jul 4, 2012, 10:22 AM
Without knowing more details it's impossible to say, particularly if the "system" is corrupt (which you say it is).

Now - if you and your boyfriend were mentioned as being involved in the child abuse/neglect, yes, then you have a problem. If not - no.

Christopher2123
Jul 4, 2012, 10:28 AM
Their was a mention of him doing something a fee
Years ago but it was never proven and never brought back up. Could they still take him even though it was so long ago and never proven?

QUOTE=JudyKayTee;3180907]Without knowing more details it's impossible to say, particularly if the "system" is corrupt (which you say it is


- if you and your boyfriend were mentioned as being involved in the child abuse/neglect, yes, then you have a problem. If not - no.[/QUOTE]

JudyKayTee
Jul 4, 2012, 10:34 AM
Their was a mention of him doing something a fee
years ago but it was never proven and never brought back up. Could they still take him even though it was so long ago and never proven?

QUOTE=JudyKayTee;3180907]Without knowing more details it's impossible to say, particularly if the "system" is corrupt (which you say it is


- if you and your boyfriend were mentioned as being involved in the child abuse/neglect, yes, then you have a problem. If not - no.[/QUOTE]



This is why the whole story needs to be posted - and why I think at this point either more info IS posted or the thread is closed.

YES, if there were allegations, proven or unproven, yes, your baby could be "taken" for the baby's safety while your boyfriend is being investigated.

I know you are worried and upset but you have just wasted a lot of people's time.

Now I understand the Attorney's advice.

ScottGem
Jul 4, 2012, 10:36 AM
As Judy said its impossible for us to tell. It is rare that a government agency can get away with a vendetta against one family, which is what you are describing. So there may be some justification in their actions. We can't know. Your attorney knows the facts and I would trust in their counsel.

Christopher2123
Jul 4, 2012, 10:38 AM
Okay who ever you are you did not have to answer my post it was your decision if you believed it was a waste of time you should have just moved on. And if you can't be nice about this and be nice giving someone serious device you shouldn't be on this website


This is why the whole story needs to be posted - and why I think at this point either more info IS posted or the thread is closed.

YES, if there were allegations, proven or unproven, yes, your baby could be "taken" for the baby's safety while your boyfriend is being investigated.

I know you are worried and upset but you have just wasted a lot of people's time.

Now I understand the Attorney's advice.

JudyKayTee
Jul 4, 2012, 10:43 AM
Okay who ever you are you did not have to answer my post it was your decision if you believed it was a waste of time you should of just moved on. And if you can't be nice about this and be nice giving someone serious device you shouldn't be on this website.]


You are inappropriate - post on a public board and you get what you get. "Whoever I am?" Read my profile. I'm actually an investigator. Your story is NOT my first time on this particular ride and I've worked BOTH sides of this - "falsely accused" and "somebody get this child out of this situation." Every time there is an investigation somebody is 100% convinced that the very system that was set up to protect children is plotting against them - usually the person who loses custody OR has to move out of State. Odd, the people who are investigated and cleared make none of those accusations.

YOU don't get to decide who is on AMHD and who is not.

AMHD does get to decide who can post who cannot.

Be nice about this? I did research to see what can and cannot be done concerning your child and then - surprise! - the "facts" aren't quite as originally presented. My time was totally wasted. I figured out it was a waste of time AFTER I did the research and found out that your boyfriend, the father of your child, was implicated in the abuse/neglect.

At any rate - I was nice as could be. I was also honest.

And as Scott said, more gently than I did - believe your Attorney and HOPE whatever Agency has a vendetta doesn't follow you (and your boyfriend's family) to another State. They do have the power to do that.