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Strath
Jun 18, 2012, 01:27 PM
I drank 6 beers on Saturday and stopped at 12am that night I have a EtG test Monday at 6 pm I have been drinking tons of fluid including only water the day of can I pass the test
DrBill100
Jun 18, 2012, 02:14 PM
I drank 6 beers on saturday and stopped at 12am that night I have a etg test Monday at 6 pm I have been drinking tons of fluid including only water the day of can I pass the test
42 hours from last drink? What was the brand of beer, (actually it's alcohol content I'm looking for)? Also need your gender, height and weight.
Strath
Jun 18, 2012, 02:57 PM
42 hours from last drink? What was the brand of beer, (actually it's alcohol content I'm looking for)? Also need your gender, height and weight.
I drank a 1 dosxx and 2 mixed drinks also had 3 bud lights stopped at 11.50am I am 24 a male and weighted 210 lbs I know I have a fast metabolism
DrBill100
Jun 18, 2012, 03:21 PM
I drank a 1 dosxx and 2 mixed drinks also had 3 bud lights stopped at 11.50am I am 24 a male and weighted 210 lbs I know I have a fast metabolism
Based on your size and consumption of six drinks (actually about 5.5) the clearance time for EtG ranges from 27-47 hours. All of those figures are based on a 100 ng/mL cutoff.
Your basic metabolic rate is secondary to the amount of enzymes in your liver when it comes to timing EtG production and elimination.
You will probably be clear at 42 hours but it is possible that EtG could be detectable.
Please let us know the results when you get them.
Strath
Jun 18, 2012, 03:30 PM
Your basic metabolic rate is secondary to the amount of enzymes in your liver when it comes to timing EtG production and elimination.
You will probably be clear at 42 hours but it is possible that EtG could be detectable.
Please let us know the results when you get them.[/QUOTE]
Also I have drinking about a120 ounces of water today before te test I have also urinated about 10 times today will that help with the EtG results
DrBill100
Jun 18, 2012, 03:39 PM
Your basic metabolic rate is secondary to the amount of enzymes in your liver when it comes to timing EtG production and elimination.
You will probably be clear at 42 hours but it is possible that EtG could be detectable.
Please let us know the results when you get them.
Also I have drinking about a120 ounces of water today before te test I have also urinated about 10 times today will that help with the EtG results[/QUOTE]
It does. Not only is the test incapable of detecting anywhere near the time spans widely advertised it also relies upon a water soluble metabolite. What a test!
Strath
Jun 18, 2012, 03:43 PM
Also I have drinking about a120 ounces of water today before te test I have also urinated about 10 times today will that help with the etg results
Based on what your telling me I should be OK
It does. Not only is the test incapable of detecting anywhere near the time spans widely advertised it also relies upon a water soluble metabolite. What a test![/QUOTE]
Strath
Jun 18, 2012, 03:53 PM
Based on what your telling me i should be ok
It does. Not only is the test incapable of detecting anywhere near the time spans widely advertised it also relies upon a water soluble metabolite. What a test![/QUOTE]
So based on what your saying I have a really good chance of passing
Strath
Jun 18, 2012, 04:08 PM
So based on what your saying I have a really good chance of passing[/QUOTE]
So based on what your saying dr bill I should be OK
DrBill100
Jun 18, 2012, 04:11 PM
Here is what every laboratory supervisor in the country knows:
"It is possible to decrease the urinary concentration of EtG to fall below the LOQ of the analytic method, simply by drinking moderate to large amounts of water or any other fluid prior to voiding. Internal and external dilution of the urine are wellknown strategies among drug abusers, to try to avoid detection when being tested for illicit drug use.." (p. 22) Dahl, 2011 (http://publications.ki.se/jspui/bitstream/10616/40395/1/Dr%20Helen%20Dahl%20Bok%20bib.pdf)
Of course you will never find that in their advertisements nor are those paying for this test directly advised of this fallibility.
Before one becomes over confident in timing this test it must be pointed out that there are an equal number of dangers for false positives. Such as EtG being created in the sample during shipment or while in the laboratory. Those are just a couple of reasons that an advisory was issued by DHHS counseling against reliance on EtG testing. That was 6 years ago and the test goes on.
Given the circumstances you describe your chances improved with the water.
NOTICE: Any person or entity that is subjected to or relies on EtG testing should read this Advisory issued by the US Department of Health and Human Services, September 2006 and remains in effect as of date of this posting. Copy available here > US DHHS Advisory (http://kap.samhsa.gov/products/manuals/advisory/pdfs/0609_biomarkers.pdf)
Strath
Jun 18, 2012, 05:25 PM
Here is what every laboratory supervisor in the country knows:
"It is possible to decrease the urinary concentration of EtG to fall below the LOQ of the analytic method, simply by drinking moderate to large amounts of water or any other fluid prior to voiding. Internal and external dilution of the urine are wellknown strategies among drug abusers, to try to avoid detection when being tested for illicit drug use.." (p. 22) Dahl, 2011 (http://publications.ki.se/jspui/bitstream/10616/40395/1/Dr%20Helen%20Dahl%20Bok%20bib.pdf)
I just went and took the test and my urine was really watery but had a slight color to it not much I took about 8 vitamins before going down there is that what added the color to my urine
Of course you will never find that in their advertisements nor are those paying for this test directly advised of this fallibility.
Before one becomes over confident in timing this test it must be pointed out that there are an equal number of dangers for false positives. Such as EtG being created in the sample during shipment or while in the laboratory. Those are just a couple of reasons that an advisory was issued by DHHS counseling against reliance on EtG testing. That was 6 years ago and the test goes on.
Given the circumstances you describe your chances improved with the water.
NOTICE: Any person or entity that is subjected to or relies on EtG testing should read this Advisory issued by the US Department of Health and Human Services, September 2006 and remains in effect as of date of this posting. Copy available here > US DHHS Advisory (http://kap.samhsa.gov/products/manuals/advisory/pdfs/0609_biomarkers.pdf)
I just took the test and my urine was really watery I took some vitamin c bef
Strath
Jun 18, 2012, 05:26 PM
[QUOTE=Strath;3158371]I just took the test and my urine was really watery I took some vitamin c bef[/QUOT
Before I went to give it some color and my urine was a slight yellow not much does that also look good for the lab tech
Alty
Jun 18, 2012, 05:30 PM
I have to ask, and I know you won't want to hear it, but if you're this worried about an ETG test, why not just stop drinking?
You obviously have a problem. Getting help to figure out ways to screw the system, won't help you in the long run.
You need help to stop drinking, then ETG tests won't be a problem.
Just my opinion.
Strath
Jul 5, 2012, 12:27 PM
Here is what every laboratory supervisor in the country knows:
"It is possible to decrease the urinary concentration of EtG to fall below the LOQ of the analytic method, simply by drinking moderate to large amounts of water or any other fluid prior to voiding. Internal and external dilution of the urine are wellknown strategies among drug abusers, to try to avoid detection when being tested for illicit drug use.." (p. 22) Dahl, 2011 (http://publications.ki.se/jspui/bitstream/10616/40395/1/Dr%20Helen%20Dahl%20Bok%20bib.pdf)
Of course you will never find that in their advertisements nor are those paying for this test directly advised of this fallibility.
Before one becomes over confident in timing this test it must be pointed out that there are an equal number of dangers for false positives. Such as EtG being created in the sample during shipment or while in the laboratory. Those are just a couple of reasons that an advisory was issued by DHHS counseling against reliance on EtG testing. That was 6 years ago and the test goes on.
Given the circumstances you describe your chances improved with the water.
NOTICE: Any person or entity that is subjected to or relies on EtG testing should read this Advisory issued by the US Department of Health and Human Services, September 2006 and remains in effect as of date of this posting. Copy available here > US DHHS Advisory (http://kap.samhsa.gov/products/manuals/advisory/pdfs/0609_biomarkers.pdf)
Hey dr bill it's starth here sorry it's taken so long... But I got the results of my EtG test back and they were negative!! Remember I drank about 8 beers and took the EtG test in 42 hours and passed it the test was at 100ng cutt off and my levels were at 45 ng I drank a lot of water and that was it... Thank you so much for the advice I felt really relevied that I passed hope it helps for other people!!
DrBill100
Jul 5, 2012, 12:37 PM
Hey dr bill it's starth here sorry it's taken so long.... But I got the results of my etg test back and they were negative!!!!! Remember I drank about 8 beers and took the etg test in 42 hours and passed it the test was at 100ng cutt off and my levels were at 45 ng I drank a lot of water and that was it..... Thank you so much for the advice I felt really relevied that I passed hope it helps for other people!!!!!
Thanks for reporting your results.
What was the 45ng reading... EtG or creatinine?
Strath
Jul 5, 2012, 12:43 PM
What was the 45ng reading...EtG or creatinine? I believe that was my EtG level tested I don't think they tested creatinine levels!!