I Just had to put down our new boxer puppy and we think he either had Parvo or hook worms. We are devastated and are looking into getting a new baby but we want to do it safely. I am trying to figure out which one it was. Before we put him down he was crying like he was in terrible pain and it was so heart breaking. Is this the behavior of a baby puppy dying of parvo? Hook worms? Does anybody know? Please help thanks!

Yes, painful, here is an excerpt from a parvo site on Google.

C - This form of the disease is much less common than the intestinal form due to widespread vaccination. Severe inflammation and necrosis (cell death), of the heart muscle causes breathing difficulty and death in very young (less than 8 weeks of age) puppies. Older dogs that survive this form have scarring in the heart muscle. This means a severe heart attack, and the little thing would have extreme pain in the chest.

Parvo means you have insure you have nothing around your house, absolutely nothing that belongs to the pup that died from parvo.

Edit: parvo and hookworms, one in the same. They go inside the bloodstream to the heart.

Do you understand about all the cleaning and disinfecting you will have to do inside AND outside?

do you understand about all the cleaning and disinfecting you will have to do inside and outside?

exactly no new pups until house is disinfected with bleach and Yard is devoid of feces from the other dog.

Yes I am aware of bleaching amd.cleaning... I just got him a new cage... Get rid of that? Or can I bleach it... Some.sites say wait a month after you clean some say 6 months. I live in an apt so what about the outside

I would not consider getting a puppy at all, you should get a dog that has already had it's full set of vaccines, to lesson the chance that he contracts parvo if that what was wrong with your other pup.
And yes you will still need to disinfect, I'll post a link for you.
But may I ask please, why you put your dog down without an answer as to what was wrong with him?
Parvo is treatable not always successfully, hookworms are treatable with greater success.
Did your vet have no idea what was wrong?
And why so quick to euthanize and not try to save him if there was a chance for survival?
But you don't even know what was wrong with him? Why not?
Was it a financial issue, if so you should think long and hard before getting another pet.

Shelter Medicine : Canine Parvovirus : ASPCA Professional (http://www.aspcapro.org/canine-parvovirus.php)

Lady Sam... My vet treats for parvo regardless if they have it or not BC when I got the dog he was already VERY SICK. We treated him for.parvo and worms(which I already knew he had) my vet and I were talking.the.entire time and we did EVERYTHING we could have done to save this dogs life. I didn't just run to the vet and we decided.to put.h down. Like I asked in the original question... If you took the time to read it... He was in GREAT PAIN! So no need to be nasty. I am a great pet owner and I am asking for positive advice from POSITIVE PEOPLE like the first two helpful people. To make sure this doesn't happen again. THANKS!

I'm not being nasty, but if you will reread your own post then you should see what I saw, and I also gave you the best advice that I can, no puppies, fully vaccinated dogs and gave a very helpful website.
If you were working that closely with your vet then your vet should have had an idea about why he needed to be euthanized.
And should have been able to tell you that hookworms are pretty well treatable, in 13 years I've only seen 1 death that was the result of a sever hookworm anemia. Only 1, that doesn't mean it can't happen again. But I'll put my money on the parvo if those are my 2 choices.
And rather than assume that I am a negative or nasty person perhaps you should read around, I am neither.

So very sorry to hear you an your baby had to go through that, I feel your pain. Where I live there is a dog abuser, killer an I only wish I could catch him. I will not tell you what this person has done to my dogs. So lets get on with trying to help you. My vet told me that Lysol and Pinesol will both kill the Parvo Virsus, which acutally comes from felines. Now don't go getting rid of your kittys if you have some. Would suggest keeping them indoors though. The first things I personally would look for is over sleeping, my vet once told me "puppies have two speeds high an off" , I laughed but he was right. If your doggy is not drinking water after you put fresh down that is your second sign. I have studied since 1991 about herbs, minerals an vitamins an would highly suggest using a natural dewormer such as Diatomaceous Earth or D. E. for short, you can get it from LuminoHome

Parvo can live in cold weather, hot weather, any conditions, it can live in the soil for up to a year There is only one household product that kills parvo, and that's bleach.

The virus needs to be treated properly to ensure that you've gotten rid of it. Just picking up the feces in the yard isn't enough. To ensure that it's gone you will have to bleach inside and out. It will kill your grass, but that's the only way to make sure the virus is gone. Even then, there's still a risk, especially if you missed something.

Parvo is very contagious. It transmitted through dog feces, so you can imagine that a pup that hasn't been vaccinated is at great risk. If you go for a walk, step in dog feces that is contaminated with parvo, and then go home, you're bringing the virus with you. Insects, birds and rats can also transmit this disease, but cats have not been shown to be a risk, that is not something you need to worry about.

I would highly recommend that you get an older dog, just to avoid the chances of a new puppy getting parvo. Unless your very diligent about cleaning your home, bleaching everything, any puppy that hasn't been fully vaccinated will be at risk of parvo.

I'm sorry to hear about your loss and wish you the best of luck.

So very sorry to hear you an your baby had to go through that, I feel your pain. Where I live there is a dog abuser, killer an I only wish I could catch him. I will not tell you what this person has done to my dogs. So lets get on with trying to help you. My vet told me that Lysol and Pinesol will both kill the Parvo Virsus, which acutally comes from felines. Now don't go getting rid of your kittys if you have some. Would suggest keeping them indoors though. The first things I personally would look for is over sleeping, my vet once told me "puppies have two speeds high an off" , I laughed but he was right. If your doggy is not drinking water after you put fresh down that is your second sign. I have studied since 1991 about herbs, minerals an vitamins an would highly suggest using a natural dewormer such as Diatomaceous Earth or D. E. for short, you can get it from LuminoHome

Hire a private investigator, get proof, go after the person legally. I wouldn't put up with it. Kittys? Doggys?

Your Vet said that doggies catch Parvo from kitties? Interesting "an" I'd like to know more about that. What reference materials did he/she give you?

Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JudyKayTee again.

Why do I always have to spread the rep. Stop posting great posts and let me catch up a bit! ;)

Toot is wrong. Cats don't pass on parvo to dogs. The main culprit is infected feces, insects, especially flies, birds, etc. But not cats. In fact, cats aren't a threat at all.

I also love how every post on the dog forum is apparently worms, according to Toot. Worms are only one thing dogs are infected with. One treatable thing. Not everything is worms Toot. :(

Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JudyKayTee again.

Why do I always have to spread the rep. Stop posting great posts and let me catch up a bit! ;)

Toot is wrong. Cats don't pass on parvo to dogs. The main culprit is infected feces, insects, especially flies, birds, etc. But not cats. In fact, cats aren't a threat at all.

I also love how every post on the dog forum is apparently worms, according to Toot. Worms are only one thing dogs are infected with. One treatable thing. Not everything is worms Toot. :(

I hate to criticize you after giving you a greenie but the correct words are "doggy" and "kitty." Please - if you are going to be an Expert get the lingo straight.

So, I am not the only one who noticed the worms being responsible for oh--whatever?

So, I am not the only one who noticed the worms being responsible for oh--whatever?

Stock up on marshmallow extract.

So, I am not the only one who noticed the worms being responsible for oh--whatever?

Sam, you're not the only one by far.

I urge you to read his/her other posts, the ones that are still on the site (many have been deleted).

This person should not be offering advice period. That's my opinion. He/she has yet to be right on any post he/she has written.

Stock up on marshmallow extract.

And peppermint tea, lysol (apparently lysol kills parvo, according to Toot's vet), and many other herbs, with links on where to buy them.

This person's posts are a huge concern.

And peppermint tea, lysol (apparently lysol kills parvo, according to Toot's vet), and many other herbs, with links on where to buy them.

This person's posts are a huge concern.

I was just about to address the Lysol post when Altys response hit my screen so I left it alone.
I could not however leave one of the worms one alone. Got my dander up!

i was just about to address the Lysol post when Altys response hit my screen so I left it alone.
I could not however leave one of the worms one alone. Got my dander up!

If you want your dander to hit the roof, read Toot's other posts.

I would suggest a cup of tea, a nice relaxing song, or a soothing movie instead. I already feel bad that I dragged Judy into this. :(

Judy was offended from the start - no one dragged me anywhere.

The moon must be full.

So, I am not the only one who noticed the worms being responsible for oh--whatever?

That explains a lot. I have been having a rough day, do you think it's worms?

Judy was offended from the start - no one dragged me anywhere.

The moon must be full.

I don't know if it's the moon, summer vacation, or just idiocy. Either way, we seem to be getting hit from all sides.

Thanks Judy. Not only for backing me up, but for... well, for being you! I guess you don't need thanks for that. You are who you are, and I'm grateful for that. Even when we don't agree. :)

I am sorry Sad puppy. I did not mean to disrespect you or your question and what you've been through.

That explains a lot. I have been having a rough day, do you think it's worms?

Most assuredly, it has to be the worms. You better get that taken care of.

Likewise Sadpuppy no disrespect intended.

That explains a lot. I have been having a rough day, do you think it's worms?

Yup, it's worms. Try peppermint tea, and chamomile. You'll be right as rain in seconds. But don't go to your doctor! I am right, because I once drove a truck, have a dog, and I'm human, so I know what I'm talking about! ;)

I am sorry Sad puppy. I did not mean to disrespect you or your question and what you've been through.

Yikes! That's not your fault. That would be mine.

Reading Toot's posts, seeing the misinformation he/she has posted, has lead to this.

I hijacked yet another thread. It's never my intention to do so.

Please Sad puppy, come back, post to us. Ignore the fact that I've lead all these good people on a rampage, but I do urge you to ignore Toot's posts. There is no valid info there.

If it was parvo...
No one told me to use anything but bleach. My husband had a sprayer for yard stuff and we loaded that up with bleachy water and sprayed down the house. It let off a nice misty spray. I had my pup only 2 nights and a day before she went to the vet for not acting right so I didn't have to wander the yard wondering who's poop was who's but when she perked up and started going outside I had my handy sprayer out following her after she did start going outside. Now I have little brown grass spots but, maybe it will grow back soon. All of this is for a new puppy that we won't get but, maybe in a few years someone will buy this place and want a puppy of there own. Ive read that this virus can last that long.
I think it's the chlorine that kills it so not just any bleach will do. It has to be the stuff that burns your eyes and nose from just smelling it

Bleach is the only thing that will kill parvo. It can live inf avorable soil/conditions for up to a year. Remember that this virus has been around since the 1970's, is very hard to disinfect away, and is shed in extremely large numbers by infected dogs. This means that there is virus everywhere: on every carpet, on every floor, in every yard and park. Virus is shed in the stool for the first two weeks or less after the initial infection but only a tiny portion of infected stool (which could be months old depending on the environmental temperature and humidity) is needed to infect a non-immune dog. Either get rid of the items or bleach, only option, I suggest getting rid. You may have to spend more money on buying new stuff, but the sake of your dogs life, it's worth it.
Parvo from Kitties... hmm interesting news. Ducks are the biggest parvo carriers, that's why if you have an unvaccinated pup NEVER take him to publick ponds or parks.

Ducks? I've never heard that! Live and learn every day...

Aside from the brief comic relief in the middle this is such a sad thread.

And I think the people who did post, who were worried and sad, saw the way the thread was going and hopefully are grateful that the person who was posting VERY wrong, VERY dangerous "info" was stopped.

My specific concern with Parvo was when I took my puppy for his shots and was told they had diagnosed Parvo that morning in that office - that was weeks ago and he's fine but I wonder what the Vet doess in that situation.

Ducks? You know more about this than I do but what is the link/similarity between ducks and dogs that allows the virus to thrive?

It's really not just ducks, but any flying bird. As you know it can stay in soil up to one year, birds walk in the soil fly to various watering holes, yards, parks etc and contaminate that area. The parvo doesn't effect the ducks allowing it to be transferred to lots of places. There is an actual goose strain of parvo, but really only harmful to the geese. They say ducks are the highest carrier as they take the longest flights, contaminating a wider area, you never really see one duck, it's a flock, which usually means they step in the same soil and the vicious cycle continues.

My specific concern with Parvo was when I took my puppy for his shots and was told they had diagnosed Parvo that morning in that office - that was weeks ago and he's fine but I wonder what the Vet doess in that situation.

The great thing about a vet clinic is that all the surfaces are easily cleaned. I know that in our clinic they wash the examination room with bleach after each patient.

I would assume that if a case of parvo came in, they'd clean the entire office with bleach before allowing any puppies that haven't had their full set of shots to come in. But that's just a guess. I don't know for sure.

It's really not just ducks, but any flying bird. As you know it can stay in soil up to one year, birds walk in the soil fly to various watering holes, yards, parks etc and contaminate that area. The parvo doesn't effect the ducks allowing it to be transferred to lots of places. There is an actual goose strain of parvo, but really only harmful to the geese. They say ducks are the highest carrier as they take the longest flights, contaminating a wider area, you never really see one duck, it's a flock, which usually means they step in the same soil and the vicious cycle continues.

Great info. I knew that birds were a big contributor to the spread of parvo, but I didn't realize that ducks and geese where the major ones. Makes sense though.

At our clinic, we have to call a head if we suspect parvo.

Is that why my vet clinic is divided into cat treatment rooms and dog treatment rooms, so the dog rooms can get the bleach treatment (although they might do the same for the cat rooms as a matter of sanitation)?

Is that why my vet clinic is divided into cat treatment rooms and dog treatment rooms, so the dog rooms can get the bleach treatment (although they might do the same for the cat rooms as a matter of sanitation)?

That may be one reason, but I think the main reason that the cat section is separate is to not distress the animals when they come in. It's bad enough being at the vet, but for a cat to be at the vet and smell nothing but dogs, and see nothing but dogs, is just adding unnecessary stress.

That may be one reason, but I think the main reason that the cat section is separate is to not distress the animals when they come in. It's bad enough being at the vet, but for a cat to be at the vet and smell nothing but dogs, and see nothing but dogs, is just adding unnecessary stress.

That could very well be the case, we have a separate room for cats that have to stay at the clinic for whatever reason. They are much calmer and satisfied when they are not exposed to the noise of barking dogs.

The great thing about a vet clinic is that all the surfaces are easily cleaned. I know that in our clinic they wash the examination room with bleach after each patient.

I would assume that if a case of parvo came in, they'd clean the entire office with bleach before allowing any puppies that haven't had their full set of shots to come in. But that's just a guess. I don't know for sure.

In my experience clinic staff are pretty anal about disinfecting between pets and especially when there has been a suspect of something very contagious like parvo.
Along with the clinic I work for I helped the owner of my clinic in his multiple clinics as a fill in for about a year. I found that to be the case in all of them.
So I would think that when staff is aware they are extra diligent.

I think the main reason that the cat section is separate is to not distress the animals when they come in. It's bad enough being at the vet, but for a cat to be at the vet and smell nothing but dogs, and see nothing but dogs, is just adding unnecessary stress.
Anxious, growling, slathering, wild-eyed dogs in a vet waiting room add to my stress too. :)