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jawzo
Apr 26, 2012, 04:08 PM
Dr bill is it possible to pass an EtG test after 96 hrs without having to drink a ton of water? I'm 5"5 160lbs,last drink was on sat which was about 12 beers, had to test today Thursday?
DrBill100
Apr 26, 2012, 04:29 PM
Of course it is. Regardless of amount of alcohol consumed it is very unlikely to have EtG in your system beyond 60 hours.
At 96 hours is would be exceptional. Tell me a little more, gender, and I can be a bit more precise.
Excepting liver or kidney disease I know of no documented research detecting EtG at that time. None of this considers water consumption, simply natural elimination.
jawzo
Apr 26, 2012, 04:33 PM
I'm 33yr old male
DrBill100
Apr 26, 2012, 04:42 PM
I'm 33yr old male
There should be no EtG in your system at that time even absent liquid consumption.
Would appreciate your reporting the results anyway. Thanks
wondering777
May 14, 2012, 08:56 AM
Then why do they say EtG can be detected up to 90 hours in a UA?
DrBill100
May 14, 2012, 11:05 AM
Then why do they say etg can be detected up to 90 hours in a UA?
Quantity consumed. The 80-120 hour claims are founded in exceptional cases. The non-regulated* commercial testing industry selectively interprets these long-term findings by ignoring the fact that most people are not detected at those ranges. Wojcik & Hawthorne did an excellent job of addressing this misleading issue. They do a far better job of describing the problem and then clarifying. You may wish to glance through that study. >LINK (http://alcalc.oxfordjournals.org/content/42/4/317.full#T1)
When dealing with moderate amounts of alcohol 1-4 drinks there is not a single study showing detection beyond 48 hours.
*all EtG/EtS testing is non-regulated. The test is disallowed in the federally regulated drug testing field. (see Advisory below)
Ref.
Wojcik & Hawthorne (link above)
NOTICE: Any person or entity that is subjected to or relies on EtG testing should read this Advisory issued by the US Department of Health and Human Services, September 2006 and remains in effect as of date of this posting. Copy available here > US DHHS Advisory (http://kap.samhsa.gov/products/manuals/advisory/pdfs/0609_biomarkers.pdf)
jawzo
Sep 6, 2012, 03:36 PM
There should be no EtG in your system at that time period even absent liquid consumption.
Would appreciate your reporting the results anyway. Thanks
Sorry it took so long but the test passed, however I get tested every month and following my usual standards I came back positive. The only thing I can think of that would have caused that result is the fact that I work with alcohol gel and when I say work I mean I actually compound the hand sanitizer at the manufacturing facility Im employeed at. Im in constant contact with the gel through both absorption and inhilation at very high levels, would this cause a false positive? One other question, if I haven't had a beer in a week and decide to drink a six pack of Budwieser how many hours would it take for me to test negative on an ETG test? Im 33ys old 160lbs hispanic with a medium-high metabolism.
DrBill100
Sep 6, 2012, 04:15 PM
Sorry it took so long but the test passed, however I get tested every month and following my usual standards I came back positive. The only thing I can think of that would have caused that result is the fact that I work with alcohol gel and when I say work I mean I actually compound the hand sanitizer at the manufacturing facility Im employeed at. Im in constant contact with the gel through both absorbtion and inhilation at very high levels, would this cause a false positive? One other question, if I havent had a beer in a week and decide to drink a six pack of Budwieser how many hours would it take for me to test negitive on an ETG test? Im 33ys old 160lbs hispanic with a medium-high metabolism.
Working in a facility where you are constantly exposed to ethanol fumes as well as dermal contact I'm very surprised that you have ever passed an EtG test. Even regular use of the hand gels (hospital setting) creates levels of EtG above 800 ng. (Skipper, 2005 (http://etg.weebly.com/)) A 150 lb individual working 8 hours in a normally ventilated setting inhaling ethanol fumes inhales the equivalent of a 1.5 oz shot of whiskey. (USDTL White paper (http://www.usdtl.com/uploads/rte/files/whitepapers_etgethanolvapor_FD_010710.pdf))
Per ethical and professional guidelines I don't get involved in planning drinking sessions.