View Full Version : Over analysis and over thinking::probably mental health
girish608
Apr 20, 2012, 11:56 PM
I am continually thinking... ie I analyse too much... the basic trend of my thinking process is the question " how do I know"... let us suppose I think that "some sort of negativity n criticism is ok" the next moment I am compounded with the question "how do I know" then I obsessively start finding answer to the queries hence developed.. in this process I waste a lot of my time.. now a days I am with a query "what is normal thinking" I have not seen anybody thinking so how can I derive the conclusion as to whatever I think is normal... sometimes I get obsessed with such self created queries... though I do not perform any ritual or compulsive act to get rid of them lest I deliberately start finding answers to the questions... please tell me that can we think of anything??
Jake2008
Apr 21, 2012, 09:06 AM
There is a such a thing as 'thinking errors'. Either by perception (that the thing you are thinking about does not have the meaning you think it does), or by experience (because you have experienced the same thought through having had a similar experience, and come to the same thought process, and confusion.
So, the biggest of concerns, or thoughts, results in the same thinking process.
It is, something that you can control. There are many ways to stop this obsessive sort of process.
Thinking is not a process that is the done in the same way by all people.
You do not need answers to things that you can determine are not worth the effort in thinking, to answer.
The point is, you have to identify what the thought is- for example, you were experiencing a negative comment from a co-worker/teacher/parent. You get a little credit here for providing an example in your post. "some sort of negative criticism is okay".
If this is an actual experienced thought from an event, get a piece of paper and a pencil, and write out the source of the thought. What was the thought, where did it happen, who was involved, what was the circumstance/ consequence.
Decide on a scale of one to ten, how important this thought is to you. Decide that you need to act on it, or not act on it, depending upon its importance. Stick to the cold hard facts, and don't allow yourself to get stuck in the process, and go off down a path you know will not bring results.
Stop yourself when you are satisfied that you have identified the thought, worked through the thought, and come to a conclusion. Now you have learned how to manage a thought, and identify that the thought was only worth a '2' and not an '8'.
Through the day, tuck bothersome thoughts into a little file folder in your memory bank, to deal with later. Set aside a specific time, and a specific place, to write out each thought. Maybe call it 'thinking time'.
Don't go back to thoughts you have already worked through, unless you need to reasure yourself.
When it is an obsessive type of thought, about nothing concrete, or in particular, follow the same sort of process to figure out the details. Where were you when you began to think about abstract thoughts, what was the day like, what mood or frame of mind were you in, what did you accomplish/not accomplish that day. See if you can process the thought behaviour, the same way you process the thought, even without something concrete.
Start with 'I have a thought about thinking', and work through what may be a cause or reason for that particular process to pop up again. Eventually you may realize that that may be due to common factors each time, for example, every night shift, every class in math, every time your parents or partner meet up with you every Saturrday. Look for a pattern.
The thinking, or overthinking, or obsessive thinking, has a trigger, and by writing things out, you gain insight, bit by bit.
Taking control of what you thought was not controllable, will be, a much healthier emotional place for you. You may find that the 'symptom' of the overthinking, really happens in a consistent way, when you are faced with a particular person or circumstance.
There are better ways to function, when you have control, and take control- with action- of these thoughts.
girish608
Apr 25, 2012, 09:21 PM
Hi, I wan't to ask a question which though may appear "irrational" for most of us, but certainly it is appearing "rational" for me.I would be dividing my question into parts.
Part a) we all know that people "think". But what I really wan't to know is that do people think towards the work they are doing that is a doctor while treating his patient has a bent of his mind towards the patient, a student while giving exam is thinking about the questions that appear in the question paper? What I mean to say is that I have not seen anybody thinking so how do I know what the thinking procedure is all about?please give elaborate answer illustrating examples regarding how people think in different scenarios? I know a but obvious answer that people think differently when they are in different situations but what I wan't to know is that a person giving an IQ test thinks about the question that appear in the test? Is that true? What I mean is that I have not seen anybody thinking so I do not wan't to make presumptions about "thought process". In all I am just making sure that am I a "normal thinker" or is there something different people experience while thinking which I may not be aware of? I am an advocate and normally working but this question really haunts me. The rationale behind this question is that How can I proceed in life without the complete knowledge of the "brain working" and the "thought- procedure"?
Part b) how would I know whether this question is being answered by an expert? Because the other day I made an account on "ask me help desk" and though I was not aware of the answer somebody asked.. I answered it.. and that was imprinted as an answer to the question. So how would I know that my question is being answered by an expert or just by somebody who feels that he or she is aware of the answer?In other words I am hoping for an answer to the above question from an expert who can rationalize , comprehend and make me aware exactly what this "thinking process" is all about?
odinn7
Apr 25, 2012, 09:23 PM
So... in relation to part B of your question (as I can't make full sense out of part A), I have to say that NO, I am not an "expert" but... I still have to ask, as my thought process requires that I do so, why are you posting this same question over and over? At this point, you've posted it 3 times already in the last few minutes.
Wait a while and maybe someone will come along that has the right thinking process and they may answer it for you. Posting numerous times won't get you an answer any faster.
girish608
Apr 25, 2012, 09:35 PM
Hi, I want to ask a question which may appear "irrational" for most of us, but certainly is "rational" for me. I am dividing my question into parts.
a) We all know that people "think," but what I really want to know is, do people think about the work they are doing? That is, a doctor treating his patient has a bent of mind toward the patient, a student taking an exam is thinking about the questions that appear on the question paper. I have not seen anybody thinking, so how do I know what the thinking process is all about? Please give an elaborate answer with examples on how people think in different scenarios. An obvious answer is that people think differently when they are in different situations, but what I want to know is if a person giving an IQ test thinks about the questions that appear on the test. Is that true? I have not seen anybody thinking, so I do not want to make presumptions about the "thought process." Am I a "normal thinker" or is there something that people experience while thinking that's different from what I experience? I am an advocate and normally working, but this question really haunts me. The rationale behind this question is that how can I proceed in life without the complete knowledge of the "brain working" and the "thought-process"?
b) How would I know whether this question is being answered by an expert? The other day I made an account on "Ask Me Help Desk" and though I was not aware of the answer, somebody asked, I answered it and that was posted as an answer to the question. So how would I know that my question is being answered by an expert or just by somebody who feels that he or she is aware of the answer?
I am hoping for an answer to the above question from an expert who can rationalize, comprehend, and make me aware exactly what this "thinking process" is all about.
girish608
Apr 25, 2012, 09:43 PM
Sorry!
Wondergirl
Apr 25, 2012, 09:59 PM
I took it upon myself to do my best to make sense of your two-part question by editing it.
a) Thinking is invisible and goes on inside your head. No one can watch another "think." The only way we know someone is thinking (or has been thinking) is by the action(s) that person takes.
b) I am an expert. Check my Profile for more information.
girish608
Apr 25, 2012, 10:10 PM
Madam, if possible please elaborate.. that is while answering this question you contemplated on the answer.. is that so? I know the question appears "insane" but what I wan't to know is that how can we deduce that what is "normal thinking".
Wondergirl
Apr 25, 2012, 10:29 PM
madam, if possible please elaborate..that is while answering this question you contemplated on the answer..is that so? I know the question appears "insane" but what i wan't to know is that how can we deduce that what is "normal thinking".
I turn the tables on you --
Sir, if possible, please elaborate... that is, while responding to me, you contemplated and accomplished "normal thinking." Is this true?
girish608
Apr 25, 2012, 11:00 PM
Yes I did contemplate on the answer... but I accomplished "normal thinking" may or may not be true... let me uphold the dialect this way... A questioned and B answered... C also answered... both the answers were same or may be different... the thought o-process thus involved by A,B and C may or may not be the same... the time taken to answer may or may not be the same... Let us say that the subject involved was "psychology"... Now what happens is that in each of the tests A questions and B and C answers... we assume that C always get better marks than B... now B thinks " I have made all the dire requisites and exercises but my answers are always not at par with C....reasons thus involved may be many ...such as C has the better knowledge of the subject etc...but what arises in B's mind is the question that "is my thought o process normal"...B thinks that "I do not know how C thinks" "may be C has been gifted with some para-normal abilities which I with all attempts not able to comprehend"(.let us also assume that C has nil communication with B.)..Now in this process B becomes anxious and starts browsing as to what "thinking" is all about...on B's perspective " am I a normal thinker"...
Curlyben
Apr 26, 2012, 12:42 AM
>Numerous Threads Merged<
Please stop opening new threads on the same issue.
girish608
Apr 26, 2012, 12:46 AM
I have not got a satisfactory answer... I will be highly obliged if somebody answers it??
Curlyben
Apr 26, 2012, 12:49 AM
SPAMMING the site will not get you the answers you seek, but it will result in other measures.
girish608
Apr 26, 2012, 12:53 AM
I did not get a satisfactory answer... please reply to the above... I will be highly obliged!!
girish608
Apr 26, 2012, 01:02 AM
Sir/mam please give a satisfactory reply to the query though answered by wondergirl but not to the fullest of her capability... please help!!
Wondergirl
Apr 26, 2012, 08:43 AM
Answers from A vary from B's and both vary from C's. IQ, exposure to sufficient and appropriate material, retention of said material, interest level, attention to detail, and physical/mental health vary, thus the difference in the cognitive abilities and the answers given.
girish608
Apr 26, 2012, 08:55 AM
Answers from A vary from B's and both vary from C's. IQ, exposure to sufficient and appropriate material, retention of said material, interest level, attention to detail, and physical/mental health vary, thus the difference in the cognitive abilities and the answers given.
I got that... thanks madam(it has been helpful)... however just straightforwardly answer this and I may not be prompting any further questions... let us suppose I am an invigilator in an examination hall.. and I make a statement to my colleague that "all the students appearing in the exam may be thinking of the answers to be written in the paper".. is this statement which I am rendering to my colleague "true" to some extent(exceptions such as the students day dreaming or etc. to be omitted)?
Wondergirl
Apr 26, 2012, 09:01 AM
i got that...thanks madam(it has been helpful)....however just straightforwardly answer this and i may not be prompting any further questions...let us suppose i am an invigilator in an examination hall..and i make a statement to my colleague that "all the students appearing in the exam may be thinking of the answers to be written in the paper" ..is this statement which i am rendering to my colleague "true" to some extent(exceptions such as the students day dreaming or etc. to be omitted) ??
I have no idea what a "invigilator" is.
Yes, that statement is true.
girish608
Apr 26, 2012, 09:05 AM
i got that...thanks madam(it has been helpful)....however just straightforwardly answer this and i may not be prompting any further questions...let us suppose i am an invigilator in an examination hall..and i make a statement to my colleague that "all the students appearing in the exam may be thinking of the answers to be written in the paper" ..is this statement which i am rendering to my colleague "true" to some extent(exceptions such as the students day dreaming or etc. to be omitted) ??
If possible please tell me giving certain examples how people think in different scenarios that is how a mechanic thinks while working on an automobile or how a computer expert thinks while working on a network outage.. see your answer matters to me a lot.. okay in case you do not wan't to elaborate just answer true or false( in this question partially true and partially false are not allowed).. example a mechanic dealing with a car(to repair it) would be thinking of the various methods how to repair it. true or false? Give reason to support your answer?
Fr_Chuck
Apr 26, 2012, 09:06 AM
Thinking is merely a set of electronic impulses within your brain, It relays on chemical balance and combines outside factors from temp, to lighting. The process then compares current situations with known factors from your memory to give you a preconcieved idea of a outcome.
From that it will compare current situation with other known facts that were learned but not from experience.
Thus since no two peoples memories , learning and past experiences can be the same, no two people can have the same thought process.
Thinking is a automatic physical function that is not controlled. The only study can be perhaps what side of our brain is more used in certain types of thought.