So there is the woman, whom I loved with my every thing.

It was an LDR, I did not want to go into it, she convinced me to come into it. She countered all my arguments with assurance that it would work. Before her, I was in an abusive relationship, so I was reluctant to take another relationship at all, as I thought I will not survive another breakup. However, she continued to support me, and convince me it would work.

I fell again in love. I gave her my everything. She has a Muskogee Indian heritage, and I started to learn the language for her (I speak German and English). I loved her with all my honesty. She kept on telling me I am her soul mate and so on. I told her again to leave me if this was a game, as I would not be able to handle another breakup.

Now since the last week, she is not talking to me, not picking up my calls, and so on. I am spending nights without sleep, hoping she will finally get time to talk with me. She is in USA, I am in Germany, and hence we have a time difference.

Now she sends me a message in FB, telling me she wants to end the relationship. She uses the same arguments (such as this is an internet relationship), which she herself countered. This falsifies her previous counterarguments. Hence the whole time it has been a lie.

However, I have a deadline in 8 days (not negotiable). And I am feeling like killing myself. I am not able to take this breakup. I am sorry. But on the other hand, my brain says I should leave to fulfill the deadline at least. Please help, I am a 22 year old man, atheist, ready to take the world face on (I took a number of troubles face on, I was homeless, at some point of time, I was about to be kicked out of the uni, from there I went to work in the German airspace center, and graduated without taking any extra semester, and with 20 extra course credit - 200 instead of 180 that is), don't know what to think, sitting alone in the staircase, crying uncontrollably, and attempting to commit suicide. The reward of my honesty to the woman is my tears.

There must have been a gap in my honesty. If my honesty is lacking, what is the point of living?

I just want to live till 11th of April and do the assigned work. But I can't convince myself to do so. Please help.

I don't need condolences, I don't need clichés. I need serious advices. I just need to finish my work, for which I have 8 days. Help me to live for these 8 days.


I don't care if she is worth it or not.
I care:
1. The reward are my tears, there must have been a gap in my honesty
2. She lied all the way, she used the same arguments that I used to avoid getting into it in the first place, must be something wrong in me
3. She again lied. She said that she "found new realizations, after having a discussion with someone" - why can't just she say she found a new man.
4. 8 days of life would suffice. Just help me with that.

People do lie! We all do. Please, are you telling me you never were wrong about some friendship or like or dislike or interest? She didn't do it deliberately, just a bit thoughtlessly, but I'm reluctant to say even that because she just changed her mind, and the whole world does that ALL THE TIME. I am going to say something harsh: you sound more in love with some ideal of honesty than you do with her. How much can you love someone you barely know? And what does investment (learning her language) have to do with anything? Investment is having a child or sticking a knife in your eyes because she is blind, not acquiring new knowledge.
Now as for living until you're your work is done, good. Then on the 11th you can assess if you still want to die or if a new project requires your attention. Keep writing here until then.
Truthfully you sound more wounded and looking for reasons to stay alive than you do reasons to die. I never preach about life and sanctity and I don't even try to tell anyone a list of reasons to live. I look for what you are saying between the lines.
Yes, love hurts. Losing a LDR isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to what some of us have been through, and what I have been through is topped by what thousands if not millions of others have been through. Killing yourself over this doesn't sound like what you really want. You are here asking and telling, you are finishing your project - all signs of life.

I want to hear from you how you pulled this through, after April 11th.

Please, are you telling me you never were wrong about some friendship or like or dislike or interest?

-- I said it face on, not by using hazy terms such as "i came to new realizations ... and i amdoing it for the other parties good". Honestly, if she said it like "sean, with you it was a mistake " or "sean i dont like you", I would not have a problem with that. She is still lying, when she says that she is doing it for my own good. I told her repeatedly I will not be able to take another breakup.

She didn't do it deliberately

-- really? Friday "you are my soulmate", Sunday no return of call, then Monday a message in FB announcing the breakup?

You sound more in love with some ideal of honesty than you do with her

-- good point. I am questioning my honesty, and the point of life without it. I am not questioning the point of life without her.

How much can you love someone you barely know?

-- I know her for a longer time. EVERY time EVERY ING TIME, she had a problem with her family, her past relatioships, she would call me, and tell me what was happening.. It is not an LDR which we meet in chat room, fly to heaven. I now her for a long long time.

And what does investment (learning her language) have to do with anything?

-- the most valuable resource in my life is time. I took time to learn her language to show her love in my way. I am geologist. Language is not my thing, but I decided to do something for her.

Sticking a knife in your eyes because she is blind

-- I know you won't believe this but
1. I had a blind woman I was about to not stick a knife,but donate one of my eyes to her. But she left me just before the act, so I was going to tell her honey, I am ready for this, but just before that she left me.
2. this one is dysautonomic. I was preparing to enter medical school, just to find a cure for her. Again,I am a geologist, I was going to change my life for her.

Now as for living until you're your work is done, good

-- I asked for help on that. I need to do that, but can not convince myself to do that.

Reasons to stay alive than you do reasons to die

-- see above

Losing a LDR isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to what some of us have been through, and what I have been through is topped by what thousands if not millions of others have been through

-- maybe. But I need advice, not a comparison of LDR and your / others relationships, as I said in the original question. And saying "go work" does not help - as that is exactly what I am unable to do now


I am not finishing my project. I am crying alone in the staircase

I want to hear from you how you pulled this through, after April 11th.

I can't that is the problem

Is there someone in person there with you, who can help you with this?

Is there someone in person there with you, who can help you with this??

no. and the other thing is that, I tend to hide my feelings, so with my friends, I know they all have there problems, therefore I just keep mine to me, and don't overload them.. BUT I *DO* have excellent friends, who will do random acts of kindness for me, if they notice I am down.

Last night, another woman was with me, and we came to the point where I confessed I have a breakup. Her answer is that "you are laughing, it does not seem you are hurt". Goodness, if there was someone who would look though my laughter into my heart and the agony it is keeping...

That is one of the reasons I am asking the question in internet. I somehow assume that the people in the internet are easier to reach to, as this is an open pool, and only those will answer who will have time / intension

That deadline work must be something really important.. Try to think only about that.. and well said, everyone has their own problem, may be they won't want to share, but we all do. We still live to tell the story.



(I took a number of troubles face on, I was homeless, at some point of time, I was about to be kicked out of the Uni, from there I went to work in the German Airspace Center, and graduated without taking any extra semester, and with 20 extra course credit - 200 instead of 180 that is

Wow, going through such hardships, and now you have some important job to complete, on which people depend upon.. why to waste everything that you have built up out of so many years of hardship.. Future. Only thing in your mind should be the future, and future.. not the recent past.

I just can not.I write one line of calculation in the paper, and start crying... what is the point of anything? I myself don't count. I don't even have the capacity to love someone..

No point in crying without trying.
Sort things out first.
What is the priority now? And what you need to do. If you keep thinking and thinking about her and there will be no end to it.
When everyone can, you can too. Just try it, you can.

When everyone can, you can too. Just try it, you can.

What is even the point?I am totally lost

Where you not lost when you faced adversity and challenge before? What got you through those gut checks? That's what will get you through this also, if you get off the pity pot, and get busy on your own behalf like you did before. You have already proved o yourself that you can overcome any obstacle and succeed, do so again.

Don't let a fickle female stop you from accomplishing your goals, that's crazy, and you have gotten to far to throw it away by some dumb female. You can't tell me you were dumb enough to love with everything, and saved nothing for yourself? Say it ain't so, my friend, as no way that's a healthy thing to do, no matter the sweet words that hooked you.

Handle your business NOW, my friend, and there will be plenty of time to cry later, all you want, all you need.

Hi! Thanks for the reply.


Where you not lost when you faced adversity and challenge before?

No, I told myself, that I am going to get a new house / job / better results / options etc, and I shot until I got it. I guess that is not what you do with your love
Been married longer than you have been on the earth, and it took MANY rejections and romantic failures to find my soul mate. Sucked at the time, every time, but had a great time in between females, and with them while it lasted. Life has many storms, many obstacles, some are harder than others, but healing takes time but always happens if you NEVER quit on yourself because of a temporary setback. Especially over a girl who left you. Close that chapter, have good memories, and allow another door to open. IT WILL, IT ALWAYS DOES, the question will be will you be ready and able when it does




What got you thru those gut checks? Thats what will get you thru this also, if you get off the pity pot, and get busy on your own behalf like you did before. You have already proved o yourself that you can overcome any obstacle and succeed, do so again.




Only if I could.. I am crying about it sooooo much.
Crying is okay, it gets the poison out, getting busy will also help between cries, and you have much to do, you said so yourself



Don't let a fickle female stop you from accomplishing your goals, thats crazy, and you have gotten to far to throw it away by some dumb female. You can't tell me you were dumb enough to love with everything, and saved nothing for yourself?



I loved her completely. GIVING everything up. EVERY THING.

When you have healed in time you will have much to give to a certain one who deserves you, and knows how to treat you. Thats why we know that the next chapter will be better, because you have experience, and can HANDLE yourself better. Thats your reason for living bud! You KNOW this will pass, and it will be better. Have faith!



Handle your business NOW, my friend, and there will be plenty of time to cry later, all you want, all you need.


I neither want to cry, nor do I need. I want a reason to live.

Thats easy pal, because you know if you hang in there thru the hard times it will be better, later!!!

You will realize that you are lucky to be rid of this unreliable female you gave much to, and be very happy you didn't curse your future kids with a mother such as her. You may of loved her, but she clearly didn't appreciate it, so recharge and get busy with what you have to do now, to make your future better. Indeed it will be! You can live if you want to.

You are going to kill yourself over a f'ing woman? Really? Come on now... this is just some stupid woman that that lives half way across the world. That's no reason to kill yourself, man. Get a grip!

Listen... you want a reason to live? How about this... live to fulfill your goals. Live to be everything you want to be. Then later on in life, you can look back at this time, look back at her, and think how much better off you are without her and how she is such a loser for not choosing you. That, my friend, is your revenge. Trust me, it will get better... just give it some time.

I don't want a revenge on her, she is not worth it, I just want to

1. function properly
2. get something IN RETURN for the price I paid already

And about realizing who deserves me, I thought she does, because she appeared to match my wave-length sooooo wellll.. until she "comes to realization while talking with someone"

just want to
1. function properly
You will in time, if you understand it does take time after a break up for normal thoughts to function fully, and the emotional dust has settled.


2. get something IN RETURN for the price I paid already
Get what in return? You shared time and memories with another human, and enjoyed it to some extent. That's all you get. That's all any of us gets. No wonder you are miserable with NOTHING! Just because you can't see it, or feel it, in TIME you will understand it, so hang around and it will happen.

Break ups suck, and for a while they make us miserable. Its temporary though.

I apologize if I was wrong about any specific things. I'm willing to change what I said. There's a lot of guesswork online, when we don't know the other person. We present some ideas and you can take them or leave them or let us know where we are wrong.

If you decide to live, I wonder if you will examine a possible tendency to give too much, too soon, in relationships.

I once decided to suddenly move from the east coast of the US to the west because I was miserable. A friend decided to have a huge going away party for me, even though I didn't want it. Sure enough, I moved back a month later. She was angry and hurt. I hadn't wanted the party!

So I wonder, are you like my friend, sacrificing too much, making them uncomfortable with your devotion and giving, driving them away?

Relationships are very rarely equal in the amount of devotion given and received. It seems like one person always 'loves the other one more than he or she loves me.' There's no easy solution; it will always be this way for many many people.

Harshness warning....warning...warning!

It's time to put on your big boy pants and get off the pity pot. You should never make someone your world, your entire life, and give everything until the day you tie the knot and put the ring on her finger or the day that your babies are born. Until then you are numero uno. Number One. You must always look out for you and your best interests.

It's obvious from your post that this girl is no longer worthy of your affections. You are way too important in this world for someone to stomp all over you like that. Always, always keep your guard up, especially in LDR's. In an LDR you don't have the proper tools to know whether the person you are "dating" is on the up-and-up or if they are just leading you on with words and fake affection.

Dude, you have been through so much in your life and have pulled through with flying colors. You can do this. Is it going to be easy for you? No. You were homeless... note the word were. But you aren't now are you?

You were about to be kicked out of Uni, but you finished without taking any extra semesters. Do you actually realize how HARD that is to do? If you can do that, you can do anything.

With what you have accomplished, aside from this stumble, you are an inspiration to many. If you can make it through all of that, you certainly can make it through this.

It's time to ..... make it through this.

Thanks for your reply, very kind of you that you took time to reply to a devastated soul, crumpled to his staircase.

Yes, indeed, it is an "was" - past tense about me being homeless. Now I am renting an apartment, and working as a part time secondary teacher and so on...

We were about to tie the knots in July, in my birthday.. She said she would move to Germany, or to Norway, in which case, we both would move.

And it's not a random LDR. I know her through a social media site since two years. I was her constant shoulder to cry on, whenever, something went wrong, her family, her relationships, her sickness, and so on... One time, in my last relationship, which traumatized and abused me, I was again suicidal, she called me, asked me not to do it. Then after two months, of that event, she proposed to me, I restrained her, but she argued that it would work, and talked about the efficiency of communication above her distance from me. She told me that all what she needs is a true love etc etc...

She had dysautonomia. I wanted to cure her. I was looking at my medical training applications... I am a geologist by training. I have no connection with the medical world, but in germany, if you take at least 6 years of pharmaceutical training, you are eligible to apply for a medical school. I was going to take that route.. .

Everything was a dream... Then, there were formal Lies. She said she would deactivate her FB, but she is highly active there. She said there were some people she did not like, when they commented some random on her FB.. I answered to those comments taking her side... Now she is flirting those people in FB.

It does not matter whom she flirts. The only thing is what did I get against my dedication? As for tying the knots, is it really necessary?

Since she left me, I surely was unable to offer her "true love". What else did I need to do for her?

First sorry life is not fair, There is no fair deal for the price we pay. You were suckered into a relationship by what appears most likely dating scam. There are 1000's of people who lose all of their money every week to these things.

And there are are people who lose everything to real life love in person, In dating and in relationship there is no for sure. Yesterday is gone, there is little change we can make on today, we merely prepare for a different tomorrow.

22 I think you said you were, heavens you have not even lived, I have lost two fortunes since I was 22, had two wives die and see more of the world then you have seen on the history channel in my years after 22.

You appear to look for and gain self worth though a relationship with others, You need to stop and find yourself, find happniness in what you do, what others do for you.

No I do not look for "WORTH", I found myself, quite well, if not precisely-

I am looking for INSPIRATION.. It is something you need when you are trying to discover the general euler-poincaré relation in N dimensions

Inspiration is found in the faces of all those around you who need your wisdom and expert guidance and smarts and common sense and even just your love and care.

Inspiration is found in the faces of all those around you who need your wisdom and expert guidance and smarts and common sense and even just your love and care.

:D no one needs the general euler-poincaré relation in N dimensions lol. That is why I am exclusively looking forr someone, who can inspire me in those fields.

As for people inspiring me, by requiring my love and care, I loved her, but she did not require it.

But there are others who do.

But there are others who do.

Really? Do you know some who would be interested to talk about EulerPoincaré relation in 6 dimensions? :D :D

As a potential girlfriend or just for fun? (Be sure to say Guten Tag to all my relatives in Hannover.)

Harsh Warning

You need to grow some balls.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

So you are breaking up, that is OK, we all go through it, whether she lied to you or she is lying to you about anything is irrelevant.

A break up is a break up, if you are feeling stressed, suicidal, depressed, sad, can't sleep, and even nauseous, it is OK... everyone has these feelings to a certain extent right after a break up.

Just breath, relax, start building your life again, and I would really recommend to go to some co-dependancy group, it seems like you are not happy on by yourself. How can you expect to keep someone else happy if you are so miserable alone.

Get ahold of yourself, everyone goes though this, and everyone get through it. Thank GOD this wasn't a relationship that was more envolved, especially if you are dying over an online relationship.

It WILL be better, remain idle, don't do anything dumb, and remember to always keep your head up and look forward. Keep reading this forum, see ALL of the potential problems that people may have, go running, go swimming, do something to take your energy out on. With time, things will get better, I PROMISE.

If you have difficulty getting over this in over 6 months, go get some professional help, sometimes they can open our eyes and show us that things aren't really that bad and offer us techniques as to how to cope with such a tramautizing experiences that break ups are.

I wish you the best of luck, and answer some questions here with your own opinions, it will help you.

As a potential girlfriend or just for fun? (Be sure to say Guten Tag to all my relatives in Hannover.)

A longterm girlfriend in the region of Hannover :) and I am really surprised that you did not spell Hannover in the english way :)

Tell me what's wonderful about you. You mentioned you're a geologist. Can you tell me about loess?(Btw, I'm old enough to be your mutter.)

Tell me what's wonderful about you. You mentioned you're a geologist. Can you tell me about loess?(Btw, I'm old enough to be your mutter.)

First of all, I am a boy who fantasizes mature ladies.

Anyway, Loess. It is wind blown. That is what characterizes it. It generally gets dumped in a windshadow behind a mountain, where wind slowes down. And that is why, probably, it is homogeneous (honestly, the wind clarification does not satisfy me of it being homogeneous, I don't know how things get mixed in wind). The homogeneity scale is in the order of several 10-s of kilometers, but I never see a loess drill core, so don't know how it looks like in the depth. (but thanks for asking, I will simulate loess transport tonight)

In the loess you see stuff like plain meineral grains, the grains that are fine enough to be carried by wind are so small, that they are mostly composed with a single mineral.

Now about origin, the professor said, in a dry enough region, wind generates it's own aerosols, from the bare surface. On the surface, you always have grains breaking loose from the mother. But honestly, I did not look into the exact mechanism, so I don't know the scale of energy required for that.

Tell me what's wonderful about you


There is nothing "wonderful". I am a scientist. I know there are certain things, which I can do much better than others. I stick to my beliefs. And I am zuverlässig [reliable -ed.] by the literal meaning of the word.

I am weird enough to attempt to redefine certain concepts in topology, and break the paradigm of higher resolution in computational geophysics.

But I have shortcomings too. There are certain things that I do not like, such as lies and idiocy.

And I want am trying to find someone, who will inspire me to walk the hard route I am walking...

Harsh Warning

You need to grow some balls.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

So you are breaking up, that is OK, we all go through it, whether or not she lied to you or she is lying to you about anything is irrelevant.

A break up is a break up, if you are feeling stressed, suicidal, depressed, sad, can't sleep, and even nauseous, it is OK... everyone has these feelings to a certain extent right after a break up.

Just breath, relax, start building your life again, and I would really recommend to go to some co-dependancy group, it seems like you are not happy on by yourself. How can you expect to keep someone else happy if you are so miserable alone.

Get ahold of yourself, everyone goes though this, and everyone get through it. Thank GOD this wasn't a relationship that was more envolved, especially if you are dying over an online relationship.

It WILL be better, remain idle, don't do anything dumb, and remember to always keep your head up and look forward. Keep reading this forum, see ALL of the potential problems that people may have, go running, go swimming, do something to take your energy out on. With time, things will get better, I PROMISE.

If you have difficulty getting over this in over 6 months, go get some professional help, sometimes they can open our eyes and show us that things aren't really that bad and offer us techniques as to how to cope with such a tramautizing experiences that break ups are.

I wish you the best of luck, and answer some questions here with your own opinions, it will help you.

It is not that irrelevant. I would like to make myself a better lover, to whom one does not need to lie. That is why I am bugged. In fact a better person, who does not have to be lied.

This is not my first breakup. I compromised my exams for a woman, but I did not care when she broke up mch. In fact, I did not ever care with any breakup .

AND what do you think I am doing. I am postponing my death for 8 days → does that not automatically mean I am trying to do something already that takes my "energy out" : the question was to convince me to do that at all. The problem is I can not convince myself for anything, since the lies hurt me to such a point where I doubt my own definition of myself.

I am not posting the question to remain IDLE. I am posting the question to find a meaning of things I am doing...



Thanks for your time anyway

One more day to go! Has the dust settled and sanity, and reason returned?

One more day to go! Has the dust settled and sanity, and reason returned?

No, I started hallucinating, but the work is getting done. It would be done, I knoe it. I am zuverlässig [reliable -ed.]. If I am on a track it is hard to take me out of it..

But I am in DEEP pain

i dont want a revenge on her, she is not worth it, i just want to

I came late to this thread, read all your posts, and pinpointed on this particular one. It says a lot to me that you want to kill yourself over a woman that you yourself said "is not worth" seeking revenge on. If she's not worth it, then what's the problem?

Sean, we've all loved and lost. There's not a person on the face of this earth that hasn't had their heart broken at least once in their life.

You seem to be a smart man. So use that intelligence. You know that this girl isn't worth crying over. So stop crying, and work through this. You've been in tougher situations than this, and you will find love. You just have to stop looking so hard for it.

This too shall pass. After all, alles hat ein ende, nur die Wurst hat zwei.

You are reliable to others but not self reliant? That's not your history, nor your MO when confronted with obstacles. So which version of yourself will emerge in this tome of emotional need?

The reliable one, or the one in deep pain? Which is the stronger?

So there is the woman, whom I loved with my every thing.

It was an LDR, I did not want to go into it, she convinced me to come into it. She countered all my arguments with assurance that it would work. Before her, I was in an abusive relationship, so I was reluctant to take another relationship at all, as I thought I will not survive another breakup. However, she continued to support me, and convince me it would work.

I fell again in love. I gave her my everything. She has a Muskogee Indian heritage, and I started to learn the language for her (I speak German and English). I loved her with all my honesty. She kept on telling me I am her soul mate and so on. I told her again to leave me if this was a game, as I would not be able to handle another breakup.

Now since the last week, she is not talking to me, not picking up my calls, and so on. I am spending nights without sleep, hoping she will finally get time to talk with me. She is in USA, I am in Germany, and hence we have a time difference.

Now she sends me a message in FB, telling me she wants to end the relationship. She uses the same arguments (such as this is an internet relationship), which she herself countered. This falsifies her previous counterarguments. Hence the whole time it has been a lie.

However, I have a deadline in 8 days (not negotiable). And I am feeling like killing myself. I am not able to take this breakup. I am sorry. But on the other hand, my brain says I should leave to fulfill the deadline at least. Please help, I am a 22 year old man, atheist, ready to take the world face on (I took a number of troubles face on, I was homeless, at some point of time, I was about to be kicked out of the uni, from there I went to work in the German airspace center, and graduated without taking any extra semester, and with 20 extra course credit - 200 instead of 180 that is), don't know what to think, sitting alone in the staircase, crying uncontrollably, and attempting to commit suicide. The reward of my honesty to the woman is my tears.

There must have been a gap in my honesty. If my honesty is lacking, what is the point of living?

I just want to live till 11th of April and do the assigned work. But I can't convince myself to do so. Please help.

I don't need condolences, I don't need clichés. I need serious advices. I just need to finish my work, for which I have 8 days. Help me to live for these 8 days.


I don't care if she is worth it or not.
I care:
1. The reward are my tears, there must have been a gap in my honesty
2. She lied all the way, she used the same arguments that I used to avoid getting into it in the first place, must be something wrong in me
3. She again lied. She said that she "found new realizations, after having a discussion with someone" - why can't just she say she found a new man.
4. 8 days of life would suffice. Just help me with that.

"" my brain says I should leave to fulfill the deadline at least ""

Im 48 / dad of three daughters whos mother did the same thing to me and our daughters for ""OVER 16 years" togather... >>>Im now a single dad & Im seeing other women and going out w/ them for dinner,movies, etc... YOU should leave to fulfill your life w/ someone who will love you-for-you, not lie to you or anything that would make you feel doing yourself IN... ( SHE'S ) NOT THE ONLY WOMEN OUT THERE!!

GOD made this world and Like this fish in the sea >>> there's more then just one women out there...

kytcd6
USA...

s. After all, alles hat ein ende, nur die Wurst hat zwei.

Hi Alty

Ja das stimmt. (That is correct.)

Ich bin aber nicht ganz der Meinung, wie du daoben sagst. ( I am not exactly agreeing with what you said above.)

Genommen sei, R: ist Wert. ( Let us say, R: is a relation, indication being worth of. )
Also, ( so)

Die Frau R Meine Rache : unwahr, nach meiner Meinung (the Lady R my revenge : untrue, from my statement)
Die Frau R Meine Tränen : unwahr, nach deiner Ableitung (the Lady R my tears : true, from your statement)
das kann nur wahr sein, wenn : (that can only hold, when)

entweder Meine Rache R Meine Tränen, V R kommutativ (either, My revenge R my tears, V R commutative)
oder Meine Rache : Meine Tränen (or my tears = my revenge)

aber das ist vielleicht nicht wahr, (that is probably not true)
also Reductio ad Absurdum (hence reductio ad absurdum)

hehehehehe


Hier ist jetzt 0209, ich bin immernoch in Arbeit. Die Assignment muss in 42 Stunde abgegeben werden. Aber ich glaube dass ich das schon schaffen werde.. Es geht mir damit okey.

(Here is 0209, I am still working, Assignment due in 42 hours but I think I will make it, It is fine)

Was mir eigentlich Weh tut ist die komische Einsamkeit. Ich habe gerade ein paar Aufgaben behebt - das fühlt sich gut an. Ich will diese gefühl mit jemandem teilen - aber kann ich nicht. Wie ich weiter oben erwähnt habe, es interessiert niemanden, was der F.Vektor in 8-Dimension sein mag.

(what hurts me is the loneliness, I just solved a few problems, feels good. I would like to share it with someone close to me, and thus get inspired, but as I further above mentioned, no one is interested in this stuff )

Die Frau hat zwar den Satz eingeworfen, dass sie sich über den F-Vektorn interessieren könnte.
(the lady argumented with the statement, that she could interest herslef with those F Vectors)

Zweitens, ich fühle mich zwecklos. Ich habe mir mit ihr sehr "wohl" gefühlt. Das zweck meines lebens war die Harmonie zwischen uns zu beschützen, und zu der Inspiration, welche sie mir bietete, Wert zu sein. Jetzt fühle ich mich, ohne ihr, zwecklos.

(secondly, I feel pointless. I feeled complete with her, The point of my life was to protect our harmony, and to be worth of the inspiration which she was about to offer.. But now, I feel pointless.)

You are reliable to others but not self reliant? Thats not your history, nor your MO when confronted with obstacles. So which version of yourself will emerge in this tome of emotional need?

The reliable one, or the one in deep pain? Which is the stronger?

Exactly, I faced a HARD system breakdown. I always told myself I will make better next time. But with my "love", I can not really say that... I am 22. I had more breakup than my age. My first breakup hurt me, my second last breakup hurt me, but I managed to wipe that out in 48 hours, without any support from anyone.

This time, I am really having an unrecoverable system error

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English please,

"" my brain says I should leave to fulfill the deadline at least ""

Im 48 / dad of three daughters whos mother did the same thing to me and our daughters for ""OVER 16 years" togather...>>>Im now a single dad & Im seeing other women and going out w/ them for dinner,movies, ect...YOU should leave to fulfill your life w/ someone who will love you-for-you, not lie to you or anything that would make you feel doing yourself IN.....( SHE'S ) NOT THE ONLY WOMEN OUT THERE !!!

GOD made this world and Like this fish in the sea >>> there's more then just one women out there....

kytcd6
USA...

Well, I wish you meet someone for you too very soon.

This was a test about my basic properties I guess. About my capability of loveing someone, crossing all my boundaries, I guess. It was a test which I failed. The failure shows I probably am NOT dedicated enough to her as much as I wanted to. This is what makes me sad.

My point of life was to be worthy of the inspiration said she would offer me ("i will / want to inspire you"), now that I don't have that goal, I feel pointless in life.

We all feel that way after a break up. But we heal, recover, get our strength back, and get to the next challenge, obstacle, event in our lives. Trust me break ups suck for all of us, but we survive, and thrive.

Now do as we tell you and get back to enjoying this reality, this dimension. Sometime it hurts, sometimes its fun.

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English please,

Sorry Chuck, I started it.

I can translate it for you if you want. It wasn't anything that broke site rules, but I do agree, since everyone on this thread does speak English, we should stick to that.

Just so you know, what I wrote in my post translates to "Everything has an end, only a wiener has two". :)

Exactly, I faced a HARD system breakdown. I always told myself i will make better next time. but with my "love", i can not really say that... I am 22. I had more breakup than my age. my first breakup hurt me, my second last breakup hurt me, but i managed to wipe that out in 48 hours, without any support from anyone.

this time, i am really having an unrecoverable system error

Reboot, and re input pertinent data. Time for full system recovery, 6 months. 96 hours is unreasonable. Disregard faulty data.

it is not that irrelevant. I would like to make myself a better lover, to whom one does not need to lie. that is why i am bugged. In fact a better person, who does not have to be lied.

This is not my first breakup. I compromised my exams for a woman, but i did not care when she broke up mch. In fact, i did not ever care with any breakup .

AND what do you think i am doing. I am postponing my death for 8 days → does that not automatically mean i am trying to do something already that takes my "energy out" : the question was to convince me to do that at all. The problem is i can not convince myself for anything, since the lies hurt me to such a point where i doubt my own definition of myself.

i am not posting the question to remain IDLE. I am posting the question to find a meaning of things i am doing....



Thanks for your time anyway

A better lover? Only with practice.

And the "energy out" was to keep your mind busy. Prolonging any type of suicide only means you are prolonging the most cowardly action know to mankind. Giving up on everything completely.

Lies hurt... move on, everyone lies, it is part of being human. Why bother going crazy over something you have no control over? Do the things you can with the things that you are ABLE to do, don't obsess yourself with the things you can't do anything with.

The remaining idle is to help you get over this situation, and it is the only way to heal from something like this... letting time pass by.

A better lover? Only with practice.



Hehehehehhe
I did not mean it in an italian way. Lol, if you know what I mean, I meant , in a symbolic way , someone who is more precise to his lover with statements and actions.

Ja, I am busy, but I ma performing so BADly... I can feel my heart literally bleeds... Like the same sensation all over the body, as if, I got cuts all over..

hehehehehhe
i did not mean it in an italian way. lol, if you know what i mean, i meant , in a symbolic way , someone who is more precise to his lover with statements and actions.

ja, i am busy, but i ma performing so BADly... i can feel my heart literally bleeds... Like the same sensation all over the body, as if, i got cuts all over..

Love hurts. It hurts in every way. It hurts when you're in love, it hurts when the love is gone, it hurts when the person you love hurts you. Even people that have been married for years, very much in love, hurt each other.

A breakup is hard. I remember many times when I felt exactly as you're feeling right now. I remember wanting to end it all because the pain was too much.

I know this sounds like cliché, but it's true. I'm so glad that I didn't end my life because of some jerk that didn't deserve me to begin with. Because I did live, I found love. I found the love of my life. We've been together more than half our lives, and we're still very much in love.

When you find real love, it will all be worth it. But you have to live in order to find it. You have to get through this tough spot, find the strength we all know you have, and then try again. The next girl may break your heart too. So may the one after that. But you can't give your heart to someone if you're not willing to have it broken. One day you'll meet someone that loves you as much as you love them. That's a promise.

Right now you just have to get through this bad time. Is that too much of a challenge for you? Considering all the other things you've accomplished, is this going to be the thing you can't overcome? I don't think so.

hehehehehhe
i did not mean it in an italian way. lol, if you know what i mean, i meant , in a symbolic way , someone who is more precise to his lover with statements and actions.

ja, i am busy, but i ma performing so BADly... i can feel my heart literally bleeds... Like the same sensation all over the body, as if, i got cuts all over..

I did mean it in a symbolic way, only practice will make you better at loving, also true for making you better at the act of making love.

A recent break up makes your whole body ache that is true, like I said: Time will take that away.

Before I went to medical school for one person I would want to know if that person really had the condition she says she has. For all you know she really doesn't (for one thing, dysautonomia is a broad term, so why didn't she call it what it was?), and that's why she broke up with you.
Here we are, last day.
How are you?

Well she did not know I had this, it was supposed to be a surprise for her :) once I get accepted to the pharmaceutical training first.

Sean, am I correct in assuming that the two of you are in different countries and that you have never met fact-to-face?

Sean, am I correct in assuming that the two of you are in different countries and that you have never met fact-to-face?

Indeed - if you do not count two years of remaining a shoulder to cry on...

I mean how do you know she really has it?
And why are you so painfully generous?

I mean how do you know she really has it?
And why are you so painfully generous?

Don't know, I was ready to do anything for her.

indeed - if you do not count two years of remaining a shoulder to cry on ...

Okay, so here goes to cold hard truth. Most likely you were just an internet affair for her. Unless you spend actual quality time with her in person and in real life you don't know what is going on when she is offline. Most likely she was available to you when it was convenient for her. It is very possible that her significant other found out what was going on after this lengthy affair and she found a way to break it off with you so as to keep her relationship.

Is there a reason why you are meeting women over the internet rather than in person?

Okay, so here goes to cold hard truth. Most likely you were just an internet affair for her. Unless you spend actual quality time with her in person and in real life you don't know what is going on when she is offline. Most likely she was available to you when it was convenient for her. It is very possible that her significant other found out what was going on after this lengthy affair and she found a way to break it off with you so as to keep her relationship.

Is there a reason why you are meeting women over the internet rather than in person?

I am looking for someone who can match me. Hehe, in real life as well as in the internet. Here is a list of what I want: http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-Sick-Of-Being-Single/2179480

Of course this is intended to be a stupidity, but well, not everyone around the corner can offer me what I am looking for. This one apparently gave me what I was looking for.

I am looking for someone who can match me. hehe, in real life as well as in the internet.
A friend asked a gentleman how it is that he never married.

Replied the gentleman, “Well, I guess I just never met the right woman … I guess I’ve been looking for the perfect girl.”

“Oh, come on now,” said the friend, “Surely you have met at least one girl that you wanted to marry.”

“Yes, there was one girl … once. I guess she was the one perfect girl … the only perfect girl I really ever met. She was just the right everything … I really mean that she was the perfect girl for me.”

“Well, why didn’t you marry her,” asked the friend.

“She was looking for the perfect man,” he said.

A friend asked a gentleman how it is that he never married.

Replied the gentleman, “Well, I guess I just never met the right woman … I guess I’ve been looking for the perfect girl.”

“Oh, come on now,” said the friend, “Surely you have met at least one girl that you wanted to marry.”

“Yes, there was one girl … once. I guess she was the one perfect girl … the only perfect girl I really ever met. She was just the right everything … I really mean that she was the perfect girl for me.”

“Well, why didn’t you marry her,” asked the friend.

“She was looking for the perfect man,” he said.

indeed!!


that writing is intended to be stupidity, where I list my expectations :)

but, I am a bit picky than to go with any random woman, whom you hit in a bar and so on. I am looking for a long term relationship , where we nurture each other.

For that long term goal, I guess, it is worth to make sure that

1. she is not abusive (I experienced that, abusive not as dominant, but abusive as traumatizing)

2. she is willing to stay with me, despite, among others


1. my diet of frog and snail hehe
2. habit of traveling to nowhere
3. my music taste which includes, among others, JS Bach, and excludes some ULTRAmodern pop artists...


3. we can hold a conversation (that is, not someone who bulls in the name of everything, experienced that too)

Is that too much to expect?

Is that too much to expect?
Again, I ask, what will she get from you?

Again, I ask, what will she get from you?

What does she want? The last one wanted me to bring her rel stardust, that is meteorites, with particles of stellar origin embedded in it - that is easy. I can do that for my lover any time.

I am ready to cross my limits for her, as long as
1. she is not abusive,
2. does not bull everything in the name of everything.
3. shares at least partially my world

That is practically everything I am looking for..

You sound like you give too much, and consequently you expect too much.
Excessive generosity has strings attached and drives many people away.
If I were blind and you were preparing to give me an eye, I would leave you.
If you were a talented geologist and were preparing to go to medical school for me, I would leave you.
Why? Because I would owe you fidelity I'm not sure I could deliver.

Excessive expectations of such matters as honesty would make me uncomfortable to. As I said right at the beginning, everyone lies.
I think in some ways you are lying to yourself about what you are in love with - ideals. You seem more in love with yourself than people. You seem so sure that you are this honest person with everything to offer, but you don't want to look at what drives them away. Love is all about compromise and forgiveness. Tons of it.

If I were blind and you were preparing to give me an eye, I would leave you.


Happened to me. Had a blind girl, who left me ;)



I would owe you fidelity I'm not sure I could deliver.


If you are talking about the "faithfulness", I don't care how many people my partner is sleeping with, because that information does not lead anyone anywhere . As long as she is with me, does not ignore me, I am fine.

You know, I had interested myself in a stupid mexican, who, one year ago, said that fidelity and , and dumped me when I gave her this freedom, and went for a macho mexican, and this year, she is repeating that how she wanted what I offered her from her "perspective boyfriends" hehehe



Excessive expectations of such matters as honesty would make me uncomfortable to.


What makes something excessive? I asked this woman, that if she has to leave me for another man, she should say it straight? IS THIS AN EXCESSIVE requirement? Are you kidding?



I think in some ways you are lying to yourself about what you are in love with - ideals.


No, ideals define me, but I am not narcissistic - not in love with what I am. I appreciate that I am true to ideals, and can do anything for that, but I ain't narcissistic.



You seem more in love with yourself than people.

First, did not someone above said I got to love myself first?
Second, I am notin love with myself



but you don't want to look at what drives them away.

What makes you think that I do not do it??




Love is all about compromise and forgiveness. Tons of it.
Hehehehehheh I am an atheist, but I started learning meditation and spiritual things, for her, because I wanted to get in her shoes, so that I can compromise in the moment I need

PS: I do NOT expect my partner to return an eye to me , if I need it. I just expect her to be straightforward and non abusive with things.
PPS: if something intimidates someone, why can't they stand straight and say, sean, I am with you, in a relationship, and this is what I find uncomfortable.
PPPS: I know I expect straightforwardness which not everyone can offer. That is also a reason why I am picky.
PPPPS: strings? Did not the woman herself said she wanted strings attached?

Have you had failed real-life relationships? Why did they fail?

UPDATE:

she criticized a post I posted saying snow-white is coming to my town, pointing to a film due to be released soon (she liked cospaly, and alice / snow white was her preferences) about random things...

I said are you not the person who wanted to "smell roses and cut all virtual strings" (copying her initial breakup message)

she sent me a message in reply saying she want to wisely spend her time with her family, her people, and use the opportunities in the horizon .

what shall I understand from this little act of drama?

what can this possibly mean?

Have you had failed real-life relationships? Why did they fail?

Yes I did. Before coming to the uni, I had one real life relationship, who broke up because I did not attend a birthday party of a friend of hers, whom I did not know.

At the end of the uni, I engaged myself for someone, had a couple of times going out, then she thought she is better with a macho.

After uni, before this woman, there was someone who never was clear about her intentions, and life moved on to this one. (in fact, in comparison, this woman was more classy than this one, maybe I should have had taken MORE time for her... )

Before this one, I had one, in which I gave my virginity, but I could not hold a conversation with her. She is a drug addict (I don't mind), She has two topics:
Her grandchild or "do you love me"? Everything was too monotonic...

what shall i understand from this little act of drama?

what can this possibly mean?
This is typical female behavior after she breaks up or takes a break. Ignore it. Do NOT respond to her again.

Thank you. I will remember this.. I am solving my challenges that needed to be solved for other people, that gives me some joy.

Too bad I can not share it with anyone..

Thank you. I will remember this.. I am solving my challenges that needed to be solved for other people, that gives me some joy.

Too bad i can not share it with anyone..
Now, my deep-thinking friend, tell me why females do this drama thing after a breakup.

Now, my deep-thinking friend, tell me why females do this drama thing after a breakup.

I don't think I know the answer... but I would like to know if I made a mistake in anything.

She is not my "friend" in the site where I posted. She is reading the public stream from me, and making those comments...

I wanted to see if you would get angry with me. It seems you did?
I'm still trying to figure out if you want to die or are just in pain.

i dont think i know the answer..... but i would like to know if i made a mistake in anything.
Ah, let's delve into her psyche. Think about it. What does she gain by scattering bread crumbs (or blowing some loess?) your way and seeing you pick up the crumbs or get the silt in your eyes?

I wanted to see if you would get angry with me. It seems you did?
I'm still trying to figure out if you want to die or are just in pain.

Hehehehehe

I am never angry , I am really entäuscht , like disappointed. I never had an anger problem, yet I went through long training to get rid of anger completely - because anger decreases your capability of performance.

I am :
1. In pain.
2. In pain that I lost an integral part of me
3. life seems pointless without this, as the lose indicates further possible shortcomings
4. with those shortcomings, life is pointless

I'm still trying to figure out if you want to die or are just in pain.
He's turning out to be quite an engaging figure, and I hope he sticks around. He could become a valued mentor on this site for others struggling through what he is up against right now..

Ah, let's delve into her psyche. Think about it. What does she gain by scattering bread crumbs (or blowing some loess?) your way and seeing you pick up the crumbs or get the silt in your eyes?

Bread crumbs are used to feed ducks, and sometimes as a bait.

If she is baiting me, why did she break up in the first place?

If she is baiting me, why did she break up in the first place?
Ah, you are getting warmer. Two parts to this --

What will the bait accomplish for her if you succumb to it?

And yes, why did she break up in the first place? Was it something about you, or was it about her?

Ah, you are getting warmer. Two parts to this --

What will the bait accomplish for her if you succumb to it?


The only outcome to this will be the proof that I succumb.



And yes, why did she break up in the first place? Was it something about you, or was it about her?

That is the question. I will take the fault on me, which is better than starting with accusing someone else.

That is exactly one question which is troubling me. What went wrong in me?

the only outcome to this will be the proof that I succumb.
You DID succumb, though, so what was her gain?

That is exactly one question which is troubling me. What went wrong in me?
Was it you? Or maybe the relationship just wasn't working, no fault on anyone.

Or do you insist someone has to be at fault?

You know, I had interested myself in a stupid mexican...

You say you don't get angry. Contempt then. There are sides to you that aren't apparent at first, and they are just as ignoble and flawed as the rest of us.

You DID succumb, though, so what was her gain?


No idea...




Was it you? Or maybe the relationship just wasn't working, no fault on anyone.

Or do you insist someone has to be at fault?

She told me she will tell me if things did not work, when she was convincing me into it. But she did not give it a chance to review. She was not straightforward with a reason that hurt her.

No, no one has to be at fault, but the worst case is I am at fault. So I start with that, until , figuratively, I am proven to be not faulty.

no idea...
When you succumbed, you played right into her hands. She isn't interested any longer but wants to find out if you are -- and if you are still panting after her and missing her.

no, no one has to be at fault, but the worst case is I am at fault. So I start with that, until , figuratively, I am proven to be not faulty.
Let's say no one was at fault. Could you live with that?

But are there things about you that need tweaking before another love adventure, so that you can give the relationship the honesty and validity it deserves?

and if you are still panting after her and missing her.


Indeed...

She kept on commenting, I kept on casually responding like a normal person in the net whom I never met..

Then I posted the comment copying her own message , and she stopped...

Indeed... she was probably waiting for me to post that particular comment..
So I guess she feels good I guess to know someone loved her and misses her or?.

Speaking of it, my immediate response to the breakup was this:
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Hate-Being-Lied-To/2179429
She did not bother to comment on this - does not this automatically show that I am hurt??



Let's say no one was at fault. Could you live with that?


Well, I will take that as an axiom




But are there things about you that need tweaking before another love adventure, so that you can give the relationship the honesty and validity it deserves?

If that relationship give me the integrity, then sure, of course...

You know, I had interested my self in a stupid mexican...

You say you don't get angry. Contempt then. There are sides to you that aren't apparent at first, and they are just as ignoble and flawed as the rest of us.

Indeed there are, but anger is not one of them. I call her stupid, because she uses those arguments to cry on my shoulder, which she used to go away from me :)

I feel like a lot of us here have adopted you. Are you still there?

I feel like a lot of us here have adopted you. Are you still there?

I am and I am preparing for my ordeal today...

If you are that decided, I hope you find what you were looking for.

If you are that decided, I hope you find what you were looking for.

that decided in what?

you know I am confused. Some tell me I should keep on my Modus Operandi, so I keep on defining miilimetergenau what I want, and some tell me I have to relax, so I am relaxed, and people say I first have to find myself etcetc.

Yet one more reason to find someone with whom I can share my life.

People are picking me up of being 22, but trust me, I have a challenging life. On 19th I will meet some people from the Lunar Exploration and Analysis Group. Today, is my ordeal of showing internally what my concept to present to them is. 50%of that ordeal is done, 50% will be done soon. With that, I have quite well decided what I am going to tell them. The presentation handouts are individually made for each people, keeping in mind the color schemes, the font format etc they use in there websites.. or any information you could find. Yes in certain case, I am that precise. Yet, in certain case, I fall in an endless loop, and if I randomly come out, ît is a fehl decision.

I wish there was someone, with whom I could share my challenge (they don't need to participate actively), my passions, and my wins..

Yet one more reason to find someone with whom i can share my life ... I wish there was someone, with whom i could share my challenge (they dont need to participate actively), my passions, and my wins..
We're here to share. :)

First, your duty is to yourself. How is that progressing?

We're here to share. :)

First, your duty is to yourself. How is that progressing?

To myself: I am totally lost. Nothing makes any more sense. I completed the target assigned to me,in a somehwat dirty manner,but I did. So what??

Take a break, relax, look around at all the things you have missed, neglected, or dismissed, and formulate a plan to put your head back together, and the life you will lead, without her, but this time, for yourself and your own happiness.

I don't know what to do is not an excuse, as it only takes a reasonable thought. Its supposed to be a hard process. Self motivation is a important, and high value skill to develop, as you have already been taught.

Wrapping the reason for your existence around the feelings and actions of another, was always a losing, self defeating proposition, but you did it any way. Now you have to correct the thinking behind YOUR actions. FACTS, and not just hard to cope with intense feelings are how you go about the next decisions that you make, so make sure you use only serious reasonable thought to come to that decision.

For me its so simple, get ready for the NEXT challenge, opportunity, or event to explore, and experience. But then, I have had a lot of practice, and know the rules, and routine of self motivation.

Thank you, but the whole statement is like pushing the button on the remote harder and harder when it is not working. I know what self motivation is, and applied it in at least *some* cases in my life.

The reason I am here is because life is pointless for me know, and I can not motivate myself for anything. I am making the mistakes which I always hated and so on. Therefore saying "get a plan" won't work. Trust me, I have a million plans well written in my desk, and with a large redundancy support, so if one plan goes wrong I can use the other.

I can not relax, I am smoking 40 grams of virginia crossroads every day, and can not sleep, and if I try to sleep, I am crying.

Of things I missed or neglected for her, there is nothing I can pick up like that, as those lines are typed. In fact, I don't have a list of what I MISSED. I have a list of what I PAID.

Of my happiness, if I don't at all have a point of life , how can I have a happy life. I am working, but the success of that tastes like what I presume to be my own... It feels disgusting. Really. There is no point conquering a challenge. (heh she used to call me her conquistador).

I wanted to go to Austria to see Sabina, someone I know, and I could not. I was depressed work had to be done, and I was slow, unproductive. I wanted to take a break anyway, about a ticket, sat on the bus, and felt miserable , and came down from the bus.

I am deeply depressed, I just am rolling into a ball and crying. I can not work at all, in any direction. Really.

Good grief! I'm a female (you know, one of those fragile, emotional creatures) and have been disappointed in love many times, but never fell into those depths of self pity where you seem to be wallowing! Now I want to take you by your shoulders and shake some sense into you. Plus, I'm the site Lead Editor and want to correct the spelling in your posts. Maybe I'll start getting rough with you... We Teutonic types don't usually suffer fools gladly. And yes, you're being foolish.

Good grief! I'm a female (you know, one of those fragile, emotional creatures) and have been disappointed in love many times, but never fell into those depths of self pity where you seem to be wallowing!

Well, congratulations! ;) besides, I just note you say you were disappointed. I isn't disappointed. I'm broke.


Now I want to take you by your shoulders and shake some sense into you.

See above post maybe, please?


Plus, I'm the site Lead Editor and want to correct the spelling in your posts.
Please do.

Maybe I'll start getting rough with you.... We Teutonic types don't usually suffer fools gladly. And yes, you're being foolish.
I .K.N.O.W. that. If knowing that solved the problem, do you think I would keep on posting here, or would I accept the task of calculating the effects on solar wind in Mare Serenitatis?

would I accept the task of calculating the effects on solar wind in Mare Serenitatis?
You would be more productive doing that. Let me know what you decide is the speed, so I can plan my wind-surfing expedition.

You would be more productive doing that. Let me know what you decide is the speed, so I can plan my wind-surfing expedition.

I am afraid the wind in Mare Serenitatis would take about a year to bring your surfboard to the acceleration you are looking for.

I'm easy. And patient. I can wait.

I'm easy. And patient. I can wait.

Okay, will tell you when I can actually convince myself with a reason for doing it.

A reason for calculating the wind speed on that mare -- or something else?

A reason for calculating the wind speed on that mare -- or something else?

A reason for calculating the effects of solar wind on the electric charging of micrometeorite particles on Mare Serenitatis on the near side of Earth's moon

"On the near side of Earth's moon" is redundant with Mare Serenitatis.

Hello sean, at 100 posts your question has been addressed by many of the best people on this question and answer site ( I have read the entire thread), the answers of which you don't seem to want to hear, or your not happy with the responses.

If you wish to discuss science there is a very good forum on askmehelpdesk for that specific topic.

As for my 2 cents, may I suggest some councilling.

The science is very much a part of the therapy on this thread.

"On the near side of Earth's moon" is redundant with Mare Serenitatis.

Hehe, Mare Serenitatis is a formation on moon, and the question "where in moon in Mare Serenitatis" can be roughly answered with "in the near side."

hehe, Mare Serenitatis is a formation on moon, and the question "where in moon in Mare Serenitatis" can be roughly answered with "in the near side "
But if you say Mare Serenitatis, your listeners/readers already know it's on the near side. It's like saying "tooth dentist."

Do you feel mentally engaged?

hello sean, at 100 posts your question has been addressed by many of the best people on this question and answer site ( I have read the entire thread),


I am thankful about it



the answers of which you dont seem to want to hear, or your not happy with the responses.


I am trying to focus on the fact that I did some of the ritual, but it did not help. So I am in search of a radical solution.




if you wish to discuss science there is a very good forum on askmehelpdesk for that specific topic.

as for my 2 cents, may i suggest some councilling.

I went to the doctor, the first one suggested anti-depession medicine. But because I have been working the last few days under anti-pain, I was not really willing to jump to anti-depressives, hence I wanted to give here and in other help websites a try as well.

But if you say Mare Serenitatis, your listeners/readers already know it's on the near side. It's like saying "tooth dentist."

Do you feel mentally engaged?

Tooth dentist, hehehehehehehe nice term...

Before the breakup, I did - it was a goal I wanted BADLY to achieve. I worked without food, with anti-pain medicine. After the breakup, I am doing it, because... I don't know, I just kept on doing it. But today after submitting the primary reports, I feel totally resourceless. My mind is not any more functioning. I formulas describing the patterns that form on granular fluid appear like the stupid sketch marks in a child's sketchbook. Meaningless.

Es schmekt mir gar nicht mehr -it does not taste me any more - those formulas, for which I worked, redefined part of topology, skipped a lot of things, without any question - I just lost the taste in it.


As I already mentioned, I am making the mistakes which I hated.

There is no radical solution, you are the same as every other person with a broken heart, no more no less, there are thousands of posts here on the matter, some cope better then others, you obviously have found a way to cope in the form of chat websites, getting opinions on the matter, amdh is NOT chat website nor a therapy playground.

Again I suggest professional face to face councilling, you may not need medication, just someone to guide you through the process, and be on hand should you require some additional support in the form of medication.

I don't see the dialog between OP and Wondergirl as chat. I see lots of 'answers' in what they are saying.

SYou came to the right place for emotional support and guidance, and like most who come to this site, while not a radical solution, you seem to have made a few friends that care and want you to heal, and prosper.

I'm broke too!! Bummer ain't it?

I'm so broke I can't even afford to pay attention! :)

I'm so broke that when robbers break into my house, they leave me money!

Sorry, I thought we'd moved on to poor jokes. Even though it isn't a joke, it's the state that many of us are in right now. If I let it get me down, I'd never get back up. All I can do is look to tomorrow to make it better. Same with you Sean.

Jo jo jo

Well, alty I am not sure if you are joking about your attention, but I isn't. I isn't joking about me being broke.

So today I had my ordeal. I submitted my stuff. And it was submitted for testing. There were a few bugs in my work. They went through it, and put me under further pressure. This thing hardly has any solution. I had to invent my solutions. For that I had to spend last year studying completely different mathematics, that I though I ever would. Naturally it is not their problem, why I took this long. Naturally it does not interest them when I tell them I did this or that, because it is NOT their field. SO I am again under pressure - that I am suffering from a breakup, and under physical breakdown, is not their issue. And she had to break exactly on these days.

The man is saying that he note I post in FB, so I should be able to do this too. I am such a loser.

They give me 48 hours to solve this. Impossible it is, I would say. But it is an ultimatum.

I am losing my ability to think.

Indeed a many of you are AT LEAST as broke as I am.. just I am the only one who can not take it any more. Maybe I should just pull the damn trigger.

Sean, you've made friends here. We can't help you with your work, we can't mend your broken heart, but we are here, and we're listening.

You're not a loser. You're also not the only one on this Earth that is suffering. In fact, many of the people that have posted on this thread have suffered far worse hardships than you ever have, including what you're going through now.

What will pulling the trigger accomplish? Do you want her to feel guilty that she hurt you? She won't. If that's your motivation, it's a dead end. She'll go on with her life regardless of what you do. In fact, she would likely never even know that you decided to kill yourself because of her.

As for being broke. My house is falling apart. I literally have an 8 foot hole in my ceiling caused by water damage from my broken dishwasher, and I can't afford to fix it. I have bowls under the leak, and I'm hoping that the entire downstairs ceiling doesn't cave in.

We live paycheque to paycheque. Both my husband and I work, and we have two kids to support as well. Today I couldn't even afford to buy a $1 bag of chips for my lunch at work. I don't have the money. Tomorrow is pay day, but even then I won't have the money, all of it is going to bills, and to keep the leaking broken roof over our heads.

You have only yourself to worry about. You can fix your situation. If I fail, my kids suffer too. So who's the loser? Out of the two of us I would say that I'm failing much worse than you are.

So stop your sulking, do your work, and see tomorrow as a new day, a day where you can change your situation. If I haven't given up, then why should you be allowed to?

I am thankful of you listening to me.

About not being able to pay, haha, I will have to walk to work tomorrow, because as a secondary teacher, without a special teacher training, I am also underpaid, and I also don't have money for food, all money is going for tobacco :) I am hoping that when this calculation finishes, I will be the only person in a LARGE number of people, who has successfully engaged themselves in such .

No, I don't want to make her feel guilty or anything. She will indeed never know that I was about to die for her.

I just don't know if I should live a pointless life (zwecklos), or end it, because it is of no ones use..

You are not losing your mind, you have lost focus on the task at hand is all. Emotional duress, and stress does that. Ask me how I know. It will pass if you let it. It will pass if you stop the suicide talk. It will stop if you allow a doctor to guide you to the appropriate strategy for temporary relief, and not think you know which anti pain works best.

You are smart, but hardly a doctor. Cite illness and give yourself more time for your assignment. A doctor will give you a note. Been there done that. It works... for a while, but maybe a few more days is all you need, eh?

I just dont know if i should live a pointless life (zwecklos), or end it, because it is of no ones use..
Hey! You owe me a blog post -- your impressions of this site as a new member. I'm still waiting (patiently).

Doctors note won't work :( never mind that.

Hey! You owe me a blog post -- your impressions of this site as a new member. I'm still waiting (patiently).

Yes, you are on my calender. 14th and 15th are for you

yes, you are on my calender. 14th and 15th are for you
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!! Danke.

I am hoping that when this calculation finishes, I will be the only person in a LARGE number of people, who has successfully engaged themselves in such .

So you want to be in the elite group? Don't you want to live to see that? I know I would! Sounds like you're making plans for the future Sean.


I just don't know if I should live a pointless life (zwecklos), or end it, because it is of no ones use..

If you're going to be among a very small group of people that can do what you do, then I fail to see how you're zwecklos. Du bist nicht zwecklos! You are of use to yourself, and you've found friends here. If you give yourself even a little bit of a chance, and stop being so hard on yourself, you'll find someone special.

Despite the fact that you're too judgmental of yourself, too hard on yourself, if I were single, I'd date you. Since I'm not single, I'll offer my friendship, and I hope you accept it.

I need to practice my German. In fact, I need to write a letter to my family in Germany that's long overdue. So you finish your work, you finish the commitment you made to WG, and then you can proofread my letter. Deal?

I'm not letting you off the hook that easy. I'm German. I'm hardheaded. You should understand that.

So get off your pity boat. You have a lot to do! :)

I'm not letting you off the hook that easy. I'm German. I'm hardheaded. You should understand that.

So get off your pity boat. You have a lot to do! :)
Poor guy. I'm German on both sides, 100%, 4th-generation American. He's in big trubble and up against a couple of frauen.

So you want to be in the elite group? Don't you want to live to see that? I know I would! Sounds like you're making plans for the future Sean.



Indeed I did have plans, I am just clinging to what I started, because what is already in hand, can not be let go. No, I did not choose to be in this path, but once I came to this path, I decided to make the best of it.




If you're going to be among a very small group of people that can do what you do, then I fail to see how you're zwecklos. Du bist nicht zwecklos! You are of use to yourself,


That is narcissistic to think that I am use to myself.



and you've found friends here. If you give yourself even a little bit of a chance, and stop being so hard on yourself, you'll find someone special.


I am thankful for the friends, I isn't hard. I am just critical.



Despite the fact that you're too judgmental of yourself, too hard on yourself, if I were single, I'd date you. Since I'm not single, I'll offer my friendship, and I hope you accept it.


I forgive your cliché (:FeelsLikeASir:) and I accept it . Then again, if you are to date me, do you speak german in a greek accent :D :D :D




I need to practice my German. In fact, I need to write a letter to my family in Germany that's long overdue. So you finish your work, you finish the commitment you made to WG, and then you can proofread my letter. Deal?


Will do my best



I'm not letting you off the hook that easy. I'm German. I'm hardheaded. You should understand that.

So get off your pity boat. You have a lot to do! :)

I isn't in a pity boat, I am behind a Lupe, trying to figure out what to do with a life that blew off. And, like what, I have to do? Calculate the solar wind speed? Who gives a f*? Currently I don't give a f* either.

That is what I am looking for in fact - a reason to give a f***. I myself is not a reason. I do not exist, the leader and the team does lol. The team does not give a f* for me, I am an instrument. If I am gone,someone else would come.

But I lost my faith on both, but I did not get my faith on myself as a replacement.

Poor guy. I'm German on both sides, 100%, 4th-generation American. He's in big trubble and up against a couple of frauen.

I think, if I can stand the next two ordeals, I should totally ask yet a third german out ;) (kidding)

And to both of the german girls above, the modern german girls lack what you seem to have a lot : zuverlässigkeit lol

I can honestly say they have motivated me and others to good things. Embrace them, they are cool!

they are cool!

They indeed are

i think, if i can stand the next two ordeals, i should totally ask yet a third german out ;) (kidding)

and to both of the german girls above, the modern german girls lack what you seem to have a lot : zuverlässigkeit lol
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwww! I'm sure you will conquer the demons inherent in those ordeals.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwww!! I'm sure you will conquer the demons inherent in those ordeals.

I did not stand my last ordeal.

Today I went to tutor the guy I tutor, and he asked me to do english instead of mathematics, which I do. The question was characterization of people, form observations. So I asked him to do it with known people, before he attempts to go in the textbook.

So he decided to characterize me, and he came to the conclusion,since sean always laughs,even at himself, he has no problem in life, and is the luckiest person..

No, that is not the case. I isn't. I have my weaknesses too. I wish someone looked through my "wall" of laughing at myself.

I wish someone looked inside me, and realized my hopes and anguish (angst?) , and stayed on my side despite those failures. I know I have anguishes, I know those are my failures, but I can't do anything, neither do I want to spend more time on those.

Same with the ordeals, there is no demon, there are people, whom, I recognize as qualified. Now I know I have the possibility of blowing them away, but I don't know if my strategy will work. I am playing my devils advocate. I have been working for an year - even more - to reach here, to face the ordeal, but I am feeling not sure if my strategy enough is...

Besides, why am I even caring for the strategy? It is coming kind of automatically that I care for a strategy to do what I am supposed to do, but my conscious mind shouts that it does not give a f*, and there is such a mortal combat going on in my mind.

I just can't take anything anymore...

No, that is not the case. I aint. I have my weaknesses too. I wish someone looked through my "wall" of laughing at myself.

I wish someone looked inside me, and realized my hopes and anguish (angst?) , and stayed on my side despite those failures. I know i have anguishes, i know those are my failures, but i can't do anything, neither do i want to spend more time on those.
We know that and love you anyway. We know that 'cause you're an awfully lot like us.

(Pssst, yes, you CAN do something. And we will be here while you spend more time on those.)

And we will be here while you spend more time on those.)

On what exactly?

"those" = turning your sorrows into joys and your failures into successes.

"those" = turning your sorrows into joys and your failures into successes.

I forgive your cliché too... :( I am kind of sad with all these cliché-s... did I not mention that I am not looking for rituals and clichés that are already well known? I know that I am not to expect a solution here, but could the cliché-s not be avoided?

Besides, I am not talking about failures, the apollo 1 blew off in launchpad - in a practice session, killing three astronauts, if I may add. That is fine. I am talking about the "ängste" that I got -- I am talking about finding a reason to combat those.

I am talking about what part I am missing in my dedication to things / people

I am not talking about the fact I am sad. I am not talking about the fact that I lost a reason to have a life (point 4 in original question) I have joys - although I did not stand the ordeal, I did go through it 80% of the way, which I know I did. This gives me a joy. I am talking about the reason to have these joys at all . I know this is a joy, but I just can not enjoy it myself - I need a real reason to have these joys..

Sorry, if my answer appears impolite

i need a real reason to have these joys..
You're a human being, thus the reason. If you want my permission, I give that.

but i just can not enjoy it myself


You're a human being, thus the reason.

~P because Q
P because Q

...

:NothingToSay: :((

~P because Q
P because Q
C'mon -- join the human race.

C'mon -- join the human race.

P: I enjoy my joys
Q: I am a human
~(Q→P) : just because I am a human, I can not enjoy those things any more. It is NOT working that way. I did not speculate a cause, I am saying a fact. That is, my statement was not in form of W→~(Q→P), it was in the form W > ~(S)|(Q→P) in S, > is an ordering relation.

You are saying Q→P. I was looking for possible help , while stating my problem
~(Q→P), you are claiming the opposite, do I have a communication problem?

P: i enjoy my joys
Q: i am a human
~(Q→P) : just because i am a human, i can not enjoy those things any more. it is NOT working that way. i did not speculate a cause, i am saying a fact. that is, my statement was not in form of W→~(Q→P)

you are saying Q→P. I was looking for possible help , while stating my problem
~(Q→P), you are claiming the opposite, do i have a communication problem?
Can you express yourself without the symbols?

Can you express yourself without the symbols?
I tried to, in the first 65 or so posts, but the point I am trying to present seems to be overlooked, hence I tried to use the notation of symbolic logic, which is supposed to be universally true

I tried to, in the first 65 or so posts, but the point i am trying to present seems to be overlooked, hence i tried to use the notation of symbolic logic, which is supposed to be universally true
They weren't overlooked as much as not taken seriously as believable reasons someone would not only become so distraught but allow those reasons to rule the entire life of such an obviously intelligent person, methinks.

They weren't overlooked as much as not taken seriously as believable reasons why someone would not only become so distraught but allow those reasons to rule the entire life of such an obviously intelligent person, methinks.

Well then, I guess I am clicking the wrong doorbell. Never mind, I am very thankful to all your time, and effort, and leting me post anyway..

I have a challenge for you.

I have a challenge for you.

Yes? :hopesThatItWillBeAReasonToGiveAF*:

Challenge of a Lifetime: During the next 24 hours, do not post in this thread. Instead, post at least ten times on Relationship threads and help others. I will be here and reading.

Challenge of a Lifetime: During the next 24 hours, do not post in this thread. Instead, post at least ten times on Relationship threads and help others. I will be here and reading.

Ten times would be a bit too much. Will try.

ten times would be a bit to much. will try.
I could do ten in an hour. I've given you 24 hours. :) Relationships board is one of the most popular ones. The other popular one is Plumbing. You can switch to that, if you like. :D

I could do ten in an hour. I've given you 24 hours. :) Relationships board is one of the most popular ones. The other popular one is Plumbing. You can switch to that, if you like. :D

I isn't an expert in this!

There are only a few Relationships experts. One doesn't have to be an expert to post an answer. It's 8:21 here, and 2 or 3 a.m. where you are? Let's synchronize our watches.

One doesn't have to be an expert to post an answer.
I would first try to do not harm. It is better to post not an answer than a non expert answer.


It's 8:21 here, and 2 or 3 a.m. where you are? Let's synchronize our watches.
0418 here

I would first try to do not harm. It is better to post not an answer than a non expert answer.
You can empathize. Most answers are not from "experts," but are from people who are simply living their lives the best way they can.

Time for bed?

To be read in 24 hours

WG's suggestion is an excellent one, and will help you get out of yourself, and see you are not alone in your pain, and while you cannot do much about it at the moment, you can relate to others going through the same thing that you are.

Then maybe you will see that placing logic on human emotions seldom works just because feelings have so many random variables to predict an out come. Any interaction between humans is a high risk crap shoot.

Despite your very high intelligience you are pretty dumb in the management of your own feelings and will have trouble adjusting fast enough to help yourself. That's okay we all go through those growing pains, as coping skills are learned through time, and experience, and has nothing to do with logic. Like, math, and english, you have to learn.

I for one am glad you came here and reached out, and that my friend is a very positive sign, as I think that as a giving person, you just need to be able to give (what a helluva motivation to volunteer to others), as your power comes more from the giving, than the having.

For now its adjustments, and managing your own thoughts, feelings, and actions. What you call motivation, is simply a lack of enthusiasm, and focus, caused by shock at the events you went through. This is a temporary thing, and made worse by other events. You are overwhelmed, and who wouldn't be.

Believe it or not, your motivation will come back on its own, so stop pressing so hard. Its like getting over a cold, you relieve the symptoms until the body takes control back.

I am an engineer by trade, so I couldn't help but be fascinated by the reasons your equations does not work.


~P because Q
P because Q

P: i enjoy my joys
Q: i am a human
~(Q→P) : just because i am a human, i can not enjoy those things any more. It is NOT working that way. I did not speculate a cause, i am saying a fact. That is, my statement was not in form of W→~(Q→P), it was in the form W > ~(S)|(Q→P) in S, > is an ordering relation.

you are saying Q→P. I was looking for possible help , while stating my problem
~(Q→P), you are claiming the opposite, do i have a communication problem?

Your equation is flawed. You failed to compensate for the human event (X), that shlt can happen at any time. Thats the first law of reality for all humans.
Adjust your equation for the unxpected(S), and the unwanted (BS).

Explore this site, its amazing.

To be read in 24 hours

WG's suggestion is an excellent one, and will help you get out of yourself, and see you are not alone in your pain, and while you cannot do much about it at the moment, you can relate to others going thru the same thing that you are.



I believe at the beginning I mentioned that I know other people also have there troubles, a friend of mine has MUCH bigger trouble than I do. His GF left himand became a hooker. Knowing that does not help. That is why I am coming here.




Then maybe you will see that placing logic on human emotions seldom works just because feelings have so many random variables to predict an out come. Any interaction between humans is a high risk crap shoot.


I placed symbolic notation on STATEMENT. I did NOT place them on emotions.

If a statement is written as P, then it's opposite is ~P



Despite your very high intelligience you are pretty dumb in the management of your own feelings and will have trouble adjusting fast enough to help yourself.


Again, you don't say. I KNOW I can't manage myself and that is why I was looking for help, why are you repeating the statement that I already made describing my problem.



Thats okay we all go thru those growing pains, as coping skills are learned thru time, and experience, and has nothing to do with logic. Like, math, and english, you have to learn.

Comeon. I do have Excellent coping skills, result of psychological training in the paramillitary. You know that too, I used it all the time in my life. This is a case which broke me



I for one am glad you came here and reached out, and that my friend is a very positive sign, as I think that as a giving person, you just need to be able to give (what a helluva motivation to volunteer to others), as your power comes more from the giving, than the having.


Boy did not someone (was it you?) say I give too much and need stop being overgiving? (if it was you then either now or then you were possibly formally lying, from definition. This confuses me.)



For now its adjustments, and managing your own thoughts, feelings, and actions. What you call motivation, is simply a lack of enthusiasm, and focus, caused by shock at the events you went thru. This is a temporary thing, and made worse by other events. You are overwhelmed, and who wouldn't be.


Thank you for the discovery.



Believe it or not, your motivation will come back on its own, so stop pressing so hard. Its like getting over a cold, you relieve the symptoms until the body takes control back.


How many times must I repeat that I am under the muzzle of a gun where efficiency is to be achieved, no matter how badly hurt you are. Your personal life should not affect your works.



I am an engineer by trade, so I couldn't help but be fascinated by the reasons your equations does not work.

Your equation is flawed. You failed to compensate for the human event (X), that shlt can happen at any time. Thats the first law of reality for all humans.
Adjust your equation for the unxpected(S), and the unwanted (BS).

Explore this site, its amazing.

Interesting.

First of all it is not an equation. It is an expression. I know my other engineer friends have trouble differentiating between equation and expression.

Second, this is actually a template, describing forms of statements, specifically an exclusion template. My statement was that I exclude any statement that takes the form W→~(S)|(Q →P) in (S) . Had I not excluded this, your argument would be valid, asking whether W contains X or BS or not, that would offer you a chance for emperically falsify my statement using EXACTLY the argument you made. BUT I EXCLUDED those forms, so your argument does not apply.
It was in the form, W>~(S)|(Q →P) in (S) , which from definition is a SEQUENCE, and not an equation. Indeed in this sequence I could force insert X, and BS and stuff, but I am making a sequence of MY observations, which from Axiom of Choice, is indeed a valid sequence.


I am trying to ask a question as precisely formulated as my knowledge of symbolic logic goes. But it hurts me too see that I am receiving unwanted, in your notation, BS.

You were supposed to wait 24 hours. You cheated!

LOL talaniman... this is getting out of hand.

Sean s: It is better with some things not to look at them completely logical, as some things don't have logic. It is more of go with the flow action than anything else. Roll with the punches and enjoy life the way it is supposed to be enjoyed. All the excuses you have been making in this thread are pointless, get over your issues.

I am glad that you are still alive.

I am glad that you are still alive.

Ja, because I have a task.

And one more thing, althouh I appreciate your time, effort, and interest to post after this thread, repeating what has been mentioned a few times hurts a bit.

ja, because i have a task.
You have eleven.

You have eleven.

Had replied to a few, to intimidated to reply to more, don't feel knowledgeable enough.

Stood first ordeal, but I can not take the fight inside my mind.

No one gives a f*

You don't have to be a trained counselor or qualified therapist to respond to a person's problem with a relationship. Otherwise, you would never have gotten any response at all when you posted, and we certainly wouldn't have continued after you shot us down one by one. So why have we stuck it out with YOU?

I was hoping with this challenge you would pull some empathy out of the deepest part of yourself.

I was hoping with this challenge you would pull some empathy out of the deepest part of yourself.

That is why, I am trying to support people who wants to have a different view of stuff such as GR - with all my empathy. I know that I am qualifyied for that, though not as good as I would like to be.

Are you alive out there?
I missed a lot. I'm not good at re-reading all the responses.
I just want to say that not all of us here are life freaks. I'm 65 years old and wouldn't mind a nice non-violent way to check out. I never had children, and have no obligations. The world has plenty of people and am soaking all the American young people for a Social Security check every month, not to mention Medicare and who knows what I might need from that.
That's different from a disaffected 22 year old suffering from unrequited love, no matter how many Ps and Qs you write.
So tell us, how are you today?

It doesn't seem to be sinking through.

Sean_S agreed to write a blog essay regarding his experience on this site. It was posted this morning after joypulv's. :) -- Ask Me Help Desk Blog - (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/blog/)a new member's experience as he becomes part of this community.

Well written sean!
Good job Wondergirl! I think you were key.

Hello people

Ah, WG, thanks for the message about the blog, I will check it now.

I am still down. Although I meet some of my known lady friends, who just f* waited ( b*-s - they were just watching me fighting all the time alone ), then came to me , and said they wanted to see me recovering alone, because that is attractive ( :dafuq: ) , and did other sweet things as a reward ( : okey : ) - well, yes, those were really touching to my heart. Anyway whatever. I met some new people, a very very very old missing man friend called me, and I was jumping, but whatever to that too...

I am too f* busy, and don't even have time to notice the fact that I am down

I am too f* busy, and dont even have time to notice the fact that I am down
Welcome back, Sean --

Are you telling us that you don't need us any longer?

Welcome back, Sean --

Are you telling us that you don't need us any longer?

Grrrrrrrrr noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I am just saying that my housekeeping unit (which were monitoring my own machine status) just quit on me :(

We have added you to our community and don't want you to leave us.

Whatever happened with your work project?

We have added you to our community and don't want you to leave us.

Whatever happened with your work project?

Project one: network programming in geology, First run, unseen error, 36 hours extension, I submitted 8 versions, 6 worked, and he said he would be fine with that.

Project two: poster for 4th european lunar symposium, mare serenitatis as a science target: finished, waiting for approval from internal side

Project three: enumeration of network blocks, which calculated a finite domain of regolith erosion: is hard.

Project four: three individual presentations to talk with three individual guys in the coffee table, in the conference, with attention span for each: 128 seconds as estimate, individually. Doing background research on them to figure out the optimal presentation style.

Project five: idea for SpaceApp challenge cohosted for Nasa et al.. . Need to think something about it.

project four: three individual presentations to talk with three individual guys in the coffee table, in the conference, with attention span for each: 128 seconds as estimate, individually. doing background research on them to figure out the optimal presentation style.
This one sounds like psychology, not geology.

This one sounds like psychology, not geology.

Indeed. But I wish to have a 66% success rate :)

Can the presentation be interactive, engaging them in the presentation?

Can the presentation be interactive, engaging them in the presentation?

Coffee table presentation. Laptop, printouts, talk. They will take coffee break,that is when I will hit them.

that is when i will hit them.
Will there be medical personnel nearby to provide bandages? ;)

Will there be medical personnel nearby to provide bandages? ;)

I am . I have 18 point FirstAid training. Car drivers have 6