I have an older Hunter Ceiling fan with a remote. I tried to install a light kit which seemed pretty cut and dry because there was a white wire and a black/white striped wire coming out of the fan marked "For light kit." I attached these wires to the black and white wires on the light kit, but no light. I check the black/white striped wire and it is a live wire. I took the fan down and saw that the fan has two wires: white and black coming out of the top, but the ceiling has a two blue wires, a red wire, a yellow wire and two white wires. The fan was connected black to two blue and white to two white. I connected black to red instead and found that now I can turn fan on at the switch as well as the remote. Still no light. Please advise!

Red frequently tells us this is a 3 way swwitch. Is there another switch in the same switch box or even at the pother end of this room? "two blue wires, a red wire, a yellow wire and two white wires" these are all incoming from the ceiling box? Should we assume your old Hunter remote has separate controls for both fan and for light?

There are two switches on the wall, I presume for the fan and light. We just moved here and there is no light in this room. Just the ceiling fan without light kit & the two switches. Neither switch turns on/off any plug outlet. BOught a light kit and thought how easy, but ugh. Here is a pic of the remote:
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Yes, all these wires are coming from the ceiling above the fan. When I opened it up, it had the two blue wires wired together and wired to the black wire from the fan. The two white wires are wired together and wired to the white wire from the fan. I changed it to: black wire from fan to single red wire. Actually, that made it so that now you have to turn on the switch first before you can use the remote to turn on the fan. NO light though.

The light kit wires were coming out of the remmote receiver, so I am to suspect that fan is not set up for light?

Should we assume your old Hunter remote has separate controls for both fan and for light?
Please answer before we go any further. Do you have a testor, multimeter or test light and the skills to safely test for power? They have asked us to not kill the customers so please answer this too.

You have two switches. Are the switches side by side at the same location or are they at different locations.
The wire colors you stated are not common. While the hot can be any color other than white or grey they are most often black or red. Are the wires in cable or are they in conduit. If they are in cables you will see the end of the cable sheathing in the ceiling box.

Please re-describe the wiring. Describe like this, "I have two cables or two conduits. Cable one has one blue and one white, cable two has a blue, a red, a yellow and a white."
Are you sure that the blue is blue and not black and the yellow is yellow and not white.

Sounds like you power being fed to the ceiling then going on to the switch and then to some other location with two switch legs returning to the ceiling. Also sound like someone install a ceiling fan with a remote and no light. Since they did not have a light kit they did not connect the neutral for the light kit (in the fan canopy) or they ran the light kit wiring through the remote also.

Yes, the remote has sepaarate controls for the fan and light. Yes, I have a testor and I know how to use it. I believe I have skills to be safe.

When I opened up the ceiling box in another room with no light, just the box and a cover screwed over it, I found that the wires were red, yellow and white. One of each.
When I took the one faceplate off the two side-by-side switches I saw blue wires, yellow wires and I believe black wires. I will have to look at it again to be sure.

I do not have any conduits, just wires. I tried to take the fan apart, but it didn't want to budge open and if I pry it, it will be ruined. How can I access the internal wiring?

I took the faceplate off the side-by-side switches in the room with the ceiling fan. =)

Where are you located? Wire colors sound like United Kingdom. Please confirm my suspicions about how things are wired.

Confirm that you have one blue and one white wire in one cable and that you have one blue, one red, and one white in another cable.

At the switch you should have the white of the blue/red/yellow/white cable connected to a white of another cable. The blue of that cable should be connected to both switches and to another blue. The red should be connected to one switch and the yellow should be connected to the other switch.

The black with white stripe wire and the white wire for the light should pass up through the fan itself to the fan canopy. I suspect that presently these are connected to the remote. I also suspect that as presently wired, you could turn the light on with the remote. Try that also to confirm.

I live in northern Illinois in house built in 1995. I removed the faceplate/switchcover that is over the two switches and I found three conduit going upwards.
Conduit 1: Red wire, blue wire and white wire
Conduit 2: Red and white only
Conduit 3: Red wire, blue wire, yellow wire and white wire
Switches are wired:
Switch 1 blue wire attached to top and blue and yellow wires attached to the bottom
Switch 2 blue wire attached to top and red and yellow wires attached to the bottom

At this time, it is presently wired with the black fan wire attached to the red ceiling wire. I turn on switch 2 and now I can use remote to turn on fan, but no lights.

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Could the ceiling fan remote only work with a candelabra light kit? Remote receiver model number is Hunter CP-9430R it also has the number 069008.

Nope, light kit is a light kit, makes no difference what type of bulb. You do know both wall switches must be ON for your remote to work, right?

I am sure I tried the light with both switches up, but I will try it again. Does it matter if I have changed the wires from black fan wire to two blue wires to black fan wire to single red wire? Should I change it back?Thank you.

To be very honest this may require an electrician to come and confirm what all your wires control. Two switches in a box near a fan should/could mean a light switch and a fan switch. However, you have a few too many colors of wires for me to figure out, even with your great pics. With the fan completely removed fom the ceiling box you only need 4 wires to control both fan and light separately. Green or bare is ground, white is neutral and black is hot, other colors like red can also be hot. You need to spend time with a testor to identify what every wire coming into the ceiling boxes does and what controls it.

It would be cheaper to buy a new fan with a light and start all over than call an electrian to sort it all out.

Even if you buy a new fan someone has to figure out your wires. I am fairly certain you problem is wiring, not the fan.

Can I wire several wires to the fan black wire? Can I wire fan black to ceiling red and both blues? What do I have to figure out? If I turn on switch 1 will only blue be live or blue & yellow will be live. I am not an electrician, just a careful person with some intelligence.

"several wires to the fan black " which wires? Different color wire means different functions so lets not mix black with anything. We or and electrician really needs to locate and label every wire coming out of that ceiling box. Whites can all be joined, they are a common neutral, green or bare is ground so mix with nothing.

In the ceiling box;
The two white wires to which the white of the fan is attached is the neutral.
The two blue wires to which the black of the fan is attached the unswitched hot.
The red is a switched hot.
The yellow is a switched hot.

The remote is a Hunter. I don't see a pull chain for the fan. Therefore the fan must be designed to be controlled from the remote only. The receiver being the electronics in the compartment between the fan and the light kit. That compartment is part of the original fan and not part of the light kit isn't it?

Just plugging the light kit in should have worked. The remote has a light button and should control the light. There is a pull chain for the light. You have pulled it to test haven't you? You need to pull the chain to make sure that the switch is on and then test the light function on the remote. The pull the chain again and test the light button on the remote again. The remote probably several settings for dimming. The pull chain switch may be simply an on/off switch or it may have as many as three light levels.

You said you tested and have voltage on the black/white strip to the Molex connector to the light kit. How did you do that test? I don't see a ground wire. For that matter I don't see a ground wire any where. If you tested between the black/white striped wire and the white you have a complete circuit to the connector. If you tested between the black/white striped and something else, what was it. If you have voltage between the black/white striped and something else but not between the black/white striped and the white neutral of the Molex connector, you have a neutral problem some where up the fan. Would have to be in the canopy. There are no electronic components in the canopy, right?

If you have a complete circuit to the Molex connector but the light does not work the problem is in the light kit.

Test for voltage between the black/white stripe and the white of the Molex connector with various settings of the light function button of the remote.

What does the red tag on the black/white striped wire and white wire say? Where do those wires go?

Yes, the compartment is part of the fan and was on the fan to start with. There is no pull chain on the fan and does start and stop using the remote.
I used a neon test lamp for line voltage like the one found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_light
I tried the light several ways, many times. I put one switch up and one switch down and hit the light button on the remote, I tried it the other way, I put both up and both switches down. Each time we pulled the chain. This is the second light kit I tried. The first light kit didn't work either, so I returned it and bought this one.
There is a ground wire. I didn't mention it because it seemed benign. It is grounded.
The red tag says "For Light Kit" I have it wired to the two wires that are coming from the light kit.
Why would the fan originally be wired black fan wire to two blue ceiling wires and not to the yellow wire or red wire?
I don't know how to test between the black/white striped wire and white wire. Sorry. I just used my testor shown above and put black to ground (a screw) and red to the black/white striped wire and the testor lit up. So you are saying to put the black end of the testor to the white wire and the red end of the wire to the black/white striped wire? I can do this, if this is the correct test.
I don't see any electric components in the canopy, just wires.

The wall switches do not come into play .
Your wiring is connected to an unswitched source of power. Power is always on to the remote control receiver of the fan.

So you have voltage between the black/white stripe and the ground. It does not matter which test light lead connects to which point with AC voltage. Do the same test between the black/white stripe wire and the white neutral in the Molex connector.

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Exact wording on red tag says, "Caution, do not remove wire nuts unless light kit is being installed."

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I get a light on for the fan white wire and black wire.

I also have a light for the wire outs: I put one prong of my testor in the black/white striped remote wire attached to the light kit black wire connector and other prong in the white on white connector and I get a light.

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I tested those wires when they were attached to the light kit wires and plugged into the ceiling fan. Yes, I tested the black and white wires and they tested positive or I mean my testor lit up.

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They appear to come out of the circuit board of the remote receiver. That means that you are getting current to the light.

Let's test the light kit itself.
Find an old extension cord or and old lamp cord. Cut off the female end and connect it to the black and white of the light kit. Plug into an outlet. The light should light. Don't forget to pull the chain a couple of times.



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Straighten the ends of the wires from the light, twist the strands very tightly to make them stiff. Carefully stick into an outlet.

Light kit fires up nice and bright, all three light bulbs come on.

So we have a light kit that we know works. We know that we have power out of the light circuit of the remote controller. We don't know the voltage or the amperage however. Test lights like you are using typically light on as little as 24 volts. You could get a small multimeter (Home Depot or Lowe's about $15) and check the voltage you have between the black/white stripe and the white coming out of the controller. I don't know whether the dimming function reduces voltage or amperage to dim the lights. Probably voltage.

At this point, I believe that either you are not operating the remote properly or the controller is defective.

Do you have the instruction for operating the remote? I believe that the lights are on but the remote has them dimmed so low you can't see them burning. The way the dimming function of remotes work is often not as simple as you might think. With the last fan I installed, the light on/of and dimming of the remote was doing some strange things. Strange, until I read the operating instructions. If you don't have the instructions for the remote, or can't figure how it functions, I suggest that you contact Hunter.

I believe that Casablanca and Hunter are owned by the same company. Casablanca has a life time warranty. They even pay the shipping for repairs. Hunter may have same warranty.


A work around would be;

Get a length of small, black, stranded wire. Long enough to reach from the light kit to the ceiling, same size as the black wire of the light kit. Run that wire up through the fan and down rod to the ceiling. Connect it red or yellow in the ceiling and to black of the light kit. Cap the black/white striped wire out of the controller. Connect the white of the controller and the white of the light kit. One of the wall switches would then control the light. You could even swap out the existing wall switch for a dimmer.

That would probably be my preference because I like light switches to be on the wall where I expect them to be. I don't like using the remotes for lights. I want it to work like every other light switch in the house.

This is great. I will try this asap. Thank you very much!
I saw a Hunter remote manual online for a similar remote. I don't have the original instructions. The online manual says that you quickly press and release the light button to turn on the light. Then you can hold the button to dim the lights. The light should come on at the highest/brightest level. This has not worked. I tried to "reset" the remote. I changed the battery. I changed the dip switch arrangement. The fan continues to work and be controlled by the remote, but no light.