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titanic2011
Feb 1, 2012, 06:06 AM
I met a girl 2 months ago and we dated and seen each other at least once a week. Two weeks ago we hung out for 3 days straight and sleptover (sex, yada) each others houses. When I asked to make it exclusive she said she wanted to get to know each other better. She also said she would not date anyone else. Just recently she said she didn't want me to date anyone else, but still not exclusive yet.
She went out to a friends (never really gave me details when I asked) and was very vague on texts. When she's out she texts quite a bit but this time was different. Said she would call me when she got home but didn't, which was strange. I woke up early AM and gave her a call to make sure she was OK, but nothing.
Not sure what to think.
Schoolmarm97
Feb 1, 2012, 07:04 AM
It sounds to me as if she's having a hard time deciding what she wants from you. She wants YOU to only date her, but SHE doesn't want to only date you. Very confused lady, or she's playing you like a violin. Only you can tell. And only you can decide how you want this relationship to go. If you're okay with the craziness, then you might let it ride for a bit and see where it goes. But if she's sleeping around (which you kind of think she might be, if I'm reading between the lines correctly), you'll want to avoid sex with her for a bit... like until you're sure she's not bringing you "gifts" you don't want.
Cat1864
Feb 1, 2012, 08:59 AM
Today 08:06 AM
Titanic2011 What to think?
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I met a girl 2 months ago and we dated and seen each other at least once a week. Two weeks ago we hung out for 3 days straight and sleptover (sex, yada) each others houses. When I asked to make it exclusive she said she wanted to get to know each other better. She also said she would not date anyone else. Just recently she said she didn't want me to date anyone else, but still not exclusive yet.
She went out to a friends (never really gave me details when I asked) and was very vague on texts. When she's out she texts quite a bit but this time was different. Said she would call me when she got home but didn't, which was strange. I woke up early AM and gave her a call to make sure she was OK, but nothing.
Not sure what to think.
It sounds like you have agreed to be exclusive without being committed. You have agreed to only date each other but you haven't agreed to call it anything more than dating. At two months, this sounds like it may be a wise idea. Do you know anything about her background and if she has a history of rushing into relationships that she should have walked away from instead?
Remember that you have only known her for two months. You really don't know as much about her habits or life as you would after six months or a year. There will be, if the relationship continues, learning about her friends and her interactions with them.
I can think of reasons other than seeing another male (as in dating, since you don't say whether her friend is male or female) for her to not be as forthcoming and available as you are used to her being. One of those reasons is giving support to a friend who is going through a trying time. Some people are very private about issues with family, partners, friends or even jobs.
Give her a chance to contact you. Talk to her face-to-face and then decide what to think. Right now you are jumping to conclusions with very few facts. Be careful that your imagination doesn't lead you to the wrong conclusion.
One other thought, if you are already having trust issues, you might want to back away from her now before emotions really get involved.
mmresd
Feb 1, 2012, 07:11 PM
Maybe her phone has run out of baterry and she sleeped at a girlfriend's place? Calm down, stop jumping to conclusions, see how things go. You need to control your emotions, she will get in contact with you, stop smothering her, when she does you can simply ask her if she wants to be exclusive again, if she seems undecisive AGAIN, then maybe you need to consider that she is not into you the same way you are into her.
titanic2011
Feb 7, 2012, 06:32 AM
I've been seeing this girl for 2 months. She says she has only been dating me, but we are not exclusive. We are not BF/GF. She has met my family and some relatives. She said she cannot be exclusive (even though at times she agrees we are because obviously we are not seeing other people and has called me boyfriend on different occasions) until I meet some of her family and everything is good. She said the next person she is in a relationship with is the person she wants to marry. So because we are not exclusive, that still gives me the vibe it's free to date. When I tell her jokingly that I might go on a date, she says that she is not going to be the girl that says I cannot, since she has has not given me a clear answer on being exclusive but she is not dating anyone else nor wants to. At the same time she jokes and says I better not kiss the other girl.
What to think of this? Just let it ride out? Keep seeing her, acting like we are bf/gf without the title, enjoy our time together and see if in time she accepts that?
I wish
Feb 7, 2012, 09:44 AM
If she's serious that she wants her next relationship to be her last, that means she's going to need more time to get to know you better.
You're in a position where she wants to get to get closer to you without any commitment. I think she's fair in saying that you're free to date other people, because she hasn't fully committed to you.
Dating is the time to get to know each other better to see if you're compatible wit each other. One good thing is that your feelings are out in the open, so you can be more honest with her instead of hiding your feelings.
Focus on getting to know each other better and having fun together. Things will flow naturally from there. Either you are drawn closer to each other to the point where you start a serious relationship or you drift apart because you realize that you're not good for each other.
At least you know that when she commits to you, she's going to be serious about the relationship. The question is, are you ready to start a serious relationship with her right away? Sounsd to me she's making a very good decision by giving both of you a chance to get closer to see where it leads.
queenofGod
Feb 10, 2012, 12:44 PM
This is my opinion. To me, it's like she has you on a string. When she wants YOU she's there but when you want HER and she's not interested, she pulls away. Because she can't make up her mind, because she doesn't know what she wants, and because it seems to be pulling you in to many directions, I would suggest you find a woman who can. =) Unless you want be a "friend with benefits".- butin this case- none.
talaniman
Feb 10, 2012, 10:01 PM
I think you just relax and let go of those unreal expectations and stop chasing her so hard. Its only been two months and I think the sex has sprung you or something, because its way to soon to give your heart to a stranger that obviously is in no hurry to give hers away so soon.
That doesn't mean you go along with everything she says either, and should do your own thing still. At least get a proper perspective into who, and what you are dealing with, and not just follow the intense emotions that you have developed.
Good sex is no excuse to lose your head my friend.
titanic2011
Feb 15, 2012, 05:26 AM
So 2 weeks have gone by.. We spent the last 2 weekends together. I mean ALL weekend. I met more of her friends and everything. Then the topic came up again. The exclusive comment. She is still on the same page of what she has said before.. I don't get it.
She's not ready for commitment it seems yet she says she only wants to and plans on dating me and we literally act like girlfriend boyfriend. The other problem is she has her guard up, and mine was down from the start. So clearly I'm more into it than her. I briefly saw her for valentines day evening but then she had prior work engagements.
We have plans this Fri for a double date, but if we don't end up doing the double date she seemed like she just wanted to do her own thing lay low, and the rest of the weekend she is busy.
Right now I feel a slight form of distance from her. Maybe it's because I told her I loved her. She told me the same 3 weeks ago and then recently that was cleared up as she loves me, but not in love with me. I'm thinking I should back off a little and see what happens..
talaniman
Feb 15, 2012, 07:56 AM
That's a great idea, what's the hurry??
titanic2011
Feb 15, 2012, 08:47 AM
Afraid to lose her.. and her think I'm not interested. And the fact that I opened up so much, then I would put up a wall and we would be taking steps backwards.
I wish
Feb 15, 2012, 09:21 AM
Trust yourself a little more than that. You showed her how you feel and you opened up to her. Now let her digest everything and see how she reacts. You don't need to push as much as you think if you trust yourself.
When she's ready, you will become a couple. If she doesn't end up with you, it won't be because you didn't do enough. If you don't end up together, it means you probably would have broken up anyway even if you got together.
As long as you show her how you feel, the ball is on her side of the court to make the next move.
titanic2011
Feb 16, 2012, 05:55 AM
Well she digested her answer. She said that she is not ready for a committed relationship. She was shocked when I love you was said. No longer wants to hang out ALL weekends, just maybe one day on the weekend. She wants me to date other people if I want to, since she is not committing, and will not anytime soon. She wants to take a step back and casually date, and is not interested in dating someone else, but if she goes to the bar and meets someone, she isn't going to say she is seeing someone. She doesn't want to have to 'report' to someone after going out, and feeling bad if she doesn't check in as she put it. This weekend it doesn't look like we are going to see each other as she feels she has neglected a lot of her friends, and even though I met a number, she wants to spend time with these other ones, bars, etc, and doesn't care for me to join and if I ran into her she didn't seem like much would be said. Screw that.
She has a lot going on with her life, including school that she needs to finish.
So when I look at this from a distant, I see 2 angles. First angle being she wants a relationship but just not with me, so she says she is not ready. Second angle, she really isn't ready, and wants to figure herself out first before being committed.
So I don't think I will be as available to her. I will not be basing my schedule around her. I will not be frantically ensuring she is OK after a drive home from work and expecting her call or trying to reach out. I won't wait until last minute to make other plans thinking she will want to hang out, nor will I even ask her to hang out anymore. And lastly I will not be answering every call or txt the moment I get them.
Thoughts?
Schoolmarm97
Feb 16, 2012, 06:54 AM
Sorry to hear her "digestion" turned out so unhappily for you. You definitely see the light now and should be moving on. It sounds as if you're more than ready for a committed relationship, and some lucky woman is waiting for you. Go look for her!
I wish
Feb 17, 2012, 12:00 PM
Seems more like the first one: "She's not ready for a relationship with you."
Even if it was the second one, the fact that she's telling you to go for other people means that she's willing to let you be with someone else. If she's willing to let you go, then she's ready to move on to someone else if someone else comes along.
titanic2011
Feb 21, 2012, 06:50 PM
I went distant for 2 days and during that time she thought something had happened to me. She had left me a few voicemails and texts. She had a day planned with her extended family and ended up canceling that since she thought something had happened, so she said in a voicemail that she was coming over. Regardless, I called back and let her know I was OK, just needed some space to think, and she decided she wanted to come see me anyway.
So we talked and basically the next person she gets exclusive with is the person she wants to marry. To her exclusive bf/gf is a different meaning then what most people think. She is not ready for that relationship yet.. She said she doesn't want to date anyone else but me, because she doesn't really want to date, except made an exception to me because I just happened. She is not ready to commit because she just wants time to herself. At the same time she does want to continue seeing me.
I don't get it as to me if you are only wanting to date someone, then you are exclusive. She said it's OK if I go on a date, but jokingly says no touching. She also said she wants me to get to know her more. Certain things she will not change. Like she still see's some of her X's here and there, and grabs dinner with them.
So I dontknow what to think really..
I wish
Feb 21, 2012, 09:53 PM
Sounds to me that she wants to really get to know you better before starting a relationship. She laid out the ground rules, so it's up to you if you want to go along with it. Your choice would be to spend some time to get to know her. Why not take the same approach as her, the next relationship you get into will be the one you marry. We can't predict the future, but it means that both of you would be looking for something serious.
Which would mean that if you start a relationship with her, it will be serious right away.
talaniman
Feb 21, 2012, 10:44 PM
She gets to keep her options open and date whomever she pleases, and so do you. That's fair. But when they start making rules for you to live by thats not fair is it? Thats something that you should NEVER allow. Pretty clear guy that instead of being confused, you should be cautious and not get wrapped up in having her to be anything but an occasional friendly date.
Talaniman Rule - Date them all! Short, fat, skinny, or tall! 18 to 80. Blind, cripple or crazy!
She doesn't know you well enough to be exclusive as a romantic partner. Time will take care of that if you yourself don't make her the object of obsession. Obviously you both have different ideas of dating. So don't get stuck on someone that's not as stuck on you.
titanic2011
Mar 17, 2012, 07:54 PM
Things have been strange past few weeks. We saw each other still and hung out. This past weekend some guy flew in and stayed at her place. She said it was her close family friend. When I tried to meet them out she gave me the run around. Pretty suspicious to me. She hasn't said a single thing to me at all today, which is very odd because usually in the morning she would text. Last night I called her out on a guy that is supposively a 'family' friend coming to visit. That was the last interaction.
I think this is done. Think I should ask for the necklace back? Some strange feeling tells me she will contact me once the guy leaves tomorrow, but I think I'm exhausted emotionally from all this.
I also forgot to mention she has been very distant physically this past 2 weeks
talaniman
Mar 17, 2012, 11:29 PM
You are stuck, she is not. She is having fun doing her thing. You are NOT! You want exclusive commitment, she ain't going for that at all.
She simply isn't going for your plan, so adjust, or leave it alone. Go get your own plan!
titanic2011
Mar 18, 2012, 12:45 PM
Yeah that's done. There's no point of me dating her now, unelss its just for FWB.
Pretty messed up though when she tells me all this time she sees a future together she just needs time and is not interested in anyone else. Ah well. You think you know someone.
titanic2011
Mar 20, 2012, 10:21 PM
I didn't speak to her for a few days and she left a few texts and calls. Tonight we spoke on the phone and she said she wants to take a step back and not have things so serious. She wants to focus on her and still date me casually. Not see each other as much because it wasn't healthy. She said again I should date other people. She is not ready for exclusive commitment.
Should I comply? Meaning OK knowing I have strong feelings for her just date her occasionally once every few weeks or whatever and enjoy the time with her, but of course I would date other people? Or should I just cut the losses because it sounds like a doormat situation
I also know I have been way too available for her. And planning things around her so that we could spend time and enjoy each other. She made the comment I need to find other things to do, hobby. I told her that isn't the problem, it was just me being into her and wanting to spend all my time with her. Clearly that was my mistake... I have to readjust that.
talaniman
Mar 20, 2012, 11:37 PM
If it were me I would date others, and get a life that I enjoyed without her. That FWB thing always hurts some one, and you probably would stay attached to her and go crazy if she dates someone else, or had no time to date you.
A clean break is best I feel.
titanic2011
Mar 21, 2012, 04:57 AM
Cut her out completely? That way there's no slight chance of me thinking eventually it will work out? At one point in our conversation she said maybe we should take a break for a few weeks and let things settle then like start all over. She said the first month she was happy and the last few weeks she hasn't been with our arguments and such. I just don't want to make the wrong choice and be like a doormat.
Oh and I asked her about FB.. She said she wants to cut out the physical side quite a bit too. She said earlier in dating she's all about it because its been awhile, and now she doesn't really care for it as much and thinks that's not a priority. So no FWB. It would be literally casual dating, maybe only few times a month as opposed to like 10 days like we have been.
talaniman
Mar 21, 2012, 06:56 AM
Dude, she wants you in the friend zone until something better comes along, so why have false hope that things will work out? She is happy now, so make sure you heal properly so you can be happy, and able to explore and date with no regrets, guilt, baggage, or comparing others to her.
That's what a clean break, and NO CONTACT is all about. Resolving your own emotional issues so you can make good decisions for yourself based on facts and not just feelings.
titanic2011
Mar 21, 2012, 04:17 PM
I did it. She said that's my decision to go separate ways. She has to focus on her now. Done. See you.
Thanks for the support Tal. Really good to see things from a different perspective.
Agh well I definitely screwed up
titanic2011
Apr 10, 2012, 05:32 AM
So I did my own thing and assumed we were done and she started contacting me again and blew up my phone. When I finally got around to getting to her we hung out for a little bit. She was still on the same page, casual dating, her not interested in dating anyone else but really me, OK with me dating others ( I told her and she was mad because I didn't tell her before I went on the dates), and if I can handle that great if not then I need to end it. Pretty much ball in my court. She says she can see herself marring me but she wants to do her own thing right now and live life with no commitment obligations as she is young and I've done a lot that she hasn't already. She also wants the person she is with next to be he rbest friend. Then she asked if I was sick of all the talking and trying to figure things out and the arguing, and I of course told her yes I was, it's exhausting and repetitive. Then she said some things she will never change like occasional dinners with friends (guys, x's) and speaking to her x's. So then we slept together and I went home. She asked the next day if I wanted to do something this weekend, but no talking just having fun. Then later she says well let's play it by ear and see how we interact this week before deciding on the weekend.
What's confusing is I don't know if I feel the same way. It's like if feel if we hang out it's not going to be fun as it used to be. Before she would text me all the time just to say hi, or even call like throughout the day, and that had dwindled completely. I asked her about that and she said she wanted to take that step back, yet she can't return calls and texts. She even says she seen them on her phone and just doesn't feel like replying right away. Really? You used to always answer or instantly respond and now you don't? You want to be good friends as foundation yet you are hyprocrite. And that's another reason why I shut her off when I did awhile ago. More and more I see how things are and what she says and how she acts, the more and more I don't see a relationship with her. Which is good because I can see that and accept it if that is truly the case I'd say. But with her it's just trying to understand really what happened? How did we get here?
I'm not even sure if I should attempt to see her. Part of me is saying, what's the point? Is my mind just thinking well hey I did have fun with her in the past, let's see if it can happen again. Just have fun. The other part is telling me what's the point of dating someone if you've been somewhere strong, they want to take a step back, and you don't even know if you see a future with them not just because of yourself, but because of all the things they've told you and how they feel and how they carry out things and how some things will never change... and some of these things are things you've always been unOK with. And then the OTHER part of me (ha) is saying what everyone from a third party stand point would say... she is just using you now to let her feelings settle and when she is OK she will disappear on her term.
talaniman
Apr 10, 2012, 05:46 AM
Dude, she wants you in the friend zone until something better comes along, so why have false hope that things will work out? She is happy now, so make sure you heal properly so you can be happy, and able to explore and date with no regrets, guilt, baggage, or comparing others to her.
Thats what a clean break, and NO CONTACT is all about. Resolving your own emotional issues so you can make good decisions for yourself based on facts and not just feelings.
Don't get sucked back into confusion. This isn't a clean break. She has her fun when she wants, and I strongly suggest you let her, and have your own without her. She wants friendship, but on her terms which right now conflicts with old feelings you still have.
Disappear, cut contact, and make healing your priority. Busy, and unavailable! Geez guy, hard to think after good sex isn't it? Its crazy to figure you can have sex with an ex who doesn't want an exclusive relationship, when you do, so sorry sex is out. Friends With Benefits hurts as much as a break up, and twice as confusing.
titanic2011
Apr 10, 2012, 06:24 AM
Not even an ex! Just dating apparently. And I Reread my post because I was in hurry.. I neglected to include (copy paste fail) She was feeling sick and think she is pregnant, which is why I had to go see her and break nc. Test negative but now I have to wait a week or two and see what test show. So talk about a confused situation.
talaniman
Apr 10, 2012, 01:32 PM
If a female is pregnant she will let you know, but she is a playing you now, to keep you confused and attentive, and has succeeded in distracting you with sex, and concerns for getting her pregnant. So you sit and wait on her to confirm, all the while worrying.
Its not a confusing situation at all, and if where as dire as she has lead you to believe, why the sex? I Think your actions are being lead by her for her own purpose. That's exactly why you stay out of her bed and her life until she says you are a dad. Only after a birth and conformation of paternity do you have anything to do.
Until then, leave her alone.
This may be harsh
Not smart bringing a kid into this confusion my friend, not smart at all.
titanic2011
Apr 11, 2012, 04:55 PM
I won't be a dad... she had abortion before. She will have one again she says.
But you are right. Screw her. She wants to take a step back and then its on her terms completely. For anything.
It's crazy how things go though. I still can't believe a month ago how things hae progressed so great and then now I feel like I don't know her, think bad things about her, literally, and wonder how things ended up this way.
titanic2011
Jul 2, 2012, 08:24 AM
Well we been texting past week. Small stuff. Nothing really. She's been asking when I am going to pick up my stuff. I told her from day 1 that she can throw it. Well months pass and this chat has come up again. She left a voicemail saying she would feel bad throwing it. Jewerly in there, which again, I don't care. She wanted to meet briefly grab a bite to eat. But I just ignored and told her to chuck it out. Good move?
talaniman
Jul 2, 2012, 08:45 AM
Good move, now if you can just stop texting..