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oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 12:10 PM
I have met on-line a girl from Ghana. I have stated that money will not be a part of our relationship... she needs no money. I believe I have fallen I love with her and we have much in common. I do have the funds to travel to Ghana. I have a criminal record and am presently inquiring to Ghana govt about my admissibility to travel to Ghana. US airlines not an option. What am I looking at? If I can't got to Ghana, what are my options? I have communicated with this girl for a month and am willing to continue for a certain amount of time. How can I get her to Canada?

Fr_Chuck
Jan 7, 2012, 12:25 PM
Of course money will be part of it in a month of so, The sad story will hit,

But she gets her passport from her government, she gets a visa from the Candian embassy. Buys a plane ticket and she comes there.

Save any any tourist would. She comes and visits, if she want to stay after she gets her, she applies for a change in her visa status.

People from Ghana come and go from there every day just like any other major natio

tickle
Jan 7, 2012, 12:26 PM
Is that what she is asking of you, to get her to Canada, no money, just wants to come to Canada?

Ghana seems to be a hotbed for scams. You may read some of the posts if you do a search.

Be aware, this may be a scam, only a different approach.

As for you travelling, having to pass through the US you will need a valid Canadian passport and you stated you have a criminal record. I don't see options, but I just bet she needs money for numerous things, passport, travel expenses, a airline ticket And as soon as you send her money for these things, you will never hear from her again.

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 12:40 PM
To get there needs only a different airline... klm does fly but limits the options as for time... she has not actually stated a desire to come to canada... only to be with me. She has not asked about visa or immigration, only her desire to be with me and to be a part of my life

Wondergirl
Jan 7, 2012, 12:42 PM
All this after only a month?

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 12:42 PM
She knows of my waryness. She wants to be patient and to develop the relationship. She wants to meet through video call and telephone so that we are both sure of what we want... I am instigating the process and answering the questions... not her

Wondergirl
Jan 7, 2012, 12:44 PM
How do you have much in common?

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 12:48 PM
We both want the same thing in life. We both have similar interests in sports, life, attitude and so much more... I look forward to talking to her everyday and she is the same. I have told her all my faults and she to me. She has been offended when I discuss money in respect to her... as if to let me know that money is not important... I have talked to her only a month but may decide to travel in 2 months... I am not feeling rushed and she does not want to rush... I hear a lot of negatives from you so-called eexperts... any positives at all?

If she comes here and I marry her here, can she stay?. I see above it only takes a change to the visa, I also hear she must return to ghana to apply for visa? Which one is it... a or b

excon
Jan 7, 2012, 12:59 PM
Hello o:

If she's REAL, I'm happy for you... But, I don't think she is.

excon

Wondergirl
Jan 7, 2012, 12:59 PM
How did she find you?

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 01:12 PM
OK... iseemed to have asked the wrong people. Is it not possible to love a girl in ghana? Is it then not possible for a girl from ghana to fall in love with me? If she comes to canada, can she change her visa to stay? Can I go to ghana? These are easy questions from experts, yet all I hear is opinion, not facts.

tickle
Jan 7, 2012, 01:16 PM
we both want the same thing in life. we both have similar interests in sports, life, attitude and so much more...i look forward to talking to her everyday and she is the same. i have told her all my faults and she to me. she has been offended when i discuss money in respect to her...as if to let me know that money is not important...i have talked to her only a month but may decide to travel in 2 months...i am not feeling rushed and she does not want to rush...i hear alot of negatives from you so-called eexperts...any positives at all?

I am with excon, I am happy for you if it works out (is that enough of a positive for you). Most people don't like what they hear. We don't know you from a hole in the ground and all responses are perfectly honest. Do you not want honesty, or perhaps some sugar coating?

I do take exception to your 'so called expert' comment. We all give our own time voluntarily to this site and some of us have been here for years and earned a modicum of respect from others for what we are putting into it.

If you want information on her ability to stay here, how she can get here and if she can stay, phone the Cdn department of immigration if you want absolutely rock hard no holds barred info.

As for you travelling there with a criminal record, forget it.


ok... iseemed to have asked the wrong people. is it not possible to love a girl in ghana? is it then not possible for a girl from ghana to fall in love with me? if she comes to canada, can she change her visa to stay? can i go to ghana? these are easy questions from experts, yet all i hear is opinion, not facts.

Take the chip off your shoulder and just read what we are telling you.



All of the reddies were a given. I knew that was coming.

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 01:24 PM
These are differing answers from experts... I asked simple questions and got opinion. I came here to find answers and have gotten some but others are not helpful and full of suspicion. I have had other contacts that were clearly fraudulent... I am not a nube and I have not been asked for money, nor have I sent any. Why can't I go there? I thought only us is so strict? I know that question is not on visa form... would I just get stopped at the airport... I have never been out of canada

Fr_Chuck
Jan 7, 2012, 01:32 PM
99.99 of the dating of women in Ghana are scams, they use fake photos, hire young girls to do a few web cams. Use stolen or bought passports and so on.

There are rooms full of men, women and grandmas who sit at computers and type all day to 1000's of web sites to find someone. They start by asking for nothing, but soon all of a sudden after they have you hooked ask for a couple hundred, then something else happens.

If this girl had the money to come to the US, she would just be here now, there are 1000;s of people from Ghana within a few miles of me. Some good, some bad and so on. I had lunch with some today.

I have never heard of one online where it was a real girl that ever showed up, but I can show you 1000's of posts for scams.

Just Google ghana dating scam. Often you may find the name or photo of the girl you are talking to listed, but often after someone is listed they change names and photos.

But travel to Ghana, yes, I travel there from time to time, a great place to vacation. I love it there and the people.

Travel from there, yes very easy,their passport and visa are very cheap and they have wonderful air service in and out of nation.

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
I have no chip. I get impatient when I get an answer to a question I did not ask. What is "reddies"? Q1: why can't I go to Ghana with a criminal record as only the USA is so strict with entry? Q2: Can she stay if she comes here and I marry her here? Q3: If I marry her there, if I can go there, how long until I bring her here? Q4: is there any other options like alternate country, me immigrating to there? I am not blind, I have heard your responses... hear my questions... not what you think I want to hear.

I have explored the ghana dating scam... spent several hours looking to discredit this girl... I cant... yet

tickle
Jan 7, 2012, 01:42 PM
these are differing answers from experts...i asked simple questions and got opinion. i came here to find answers and have gotten some but others are not helpful and full of suspicion. I have had other contacts that were clearly fraudulent...i am not a nube and i have not been asked for money, nor have i sent any. why can't i go there? i thought only us is so strict? i know that question is not on visa form...would i just get stopped at the airport...i have never been out of canada

We are only suspicious because we don't want to jeopardize the poster.

Yes, (I am a Canadian too) US is strict when you are travelling their air space, and what are you missing here, and I have said three times that you have a criminal record, you need a VALID PASPORT do you have one?

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 01:44 PM
I have talked to pardons canada... they indicated I can get my passport

Fr_Chuck
Jan 7, 2012, 01:47 PM
You should be able to travel to Ghana, you will need a visa for Ghana to enter and a Passport, you will fly international flight from Canada, so you will not have to pass though US immigration issues.

She can come to Canada, often a student visa is easiest and she goes to school and then later can ask for a change to a resident visa.

Even with a tourist she can ask for it to be changed after she is here for a while

tickle
Jan 7, 2012, 01:52 PM
I have talked to pardons canada...they indicated i can get my passport

Then why did I go through all of that when you already knew ? Get a passport app online, answer all and send the fee and go from there and whatever Pardons say to do.

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 02:03 PM
OK... I have rechecked for the passport... I was not 100% sure... govt has been wrong before... like always. It seems that I can get a passport... tickle... no insult intended... just not sure. Student visa good idea, never thought of that... thats why I came to this website, to get further info and I do thank you for that. I have done a lot of homework and will not go blind... never been to africa, good vacation anyway. I will visit this website often to get further advice and am sorry for "chip"... you all mean well. Thank you for your answers

tickle
Jan 7, 2012, 02:07 PM
Good luck and keep us posted please. All you can do right now is work on that passport.

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 02:17 PM
I am sorry "tickle" I was rude... a few vodka in my system didn't help... my apologies

I talked to one a couple months ago... felt I was in love... she phoned me and sounded like an old newfie woman... FRAUD

Sariss
Jan 7, 2012, 02:30 PM
if she comes here and i marry her here, can she stay?...i see above it only takes a change to the visa, i also hear she must return to ghana to apply for visa? which one is it....a or b

ASSUMING this is not a scam as discussed earlier - technically maybe.
You would have to apply to sponsor her for permanent residence, and in doing so you have to prove to immigration that the relationship is genuine. And with countries with high rates of marital fraud to get into Canada (such as Ghana) you need to have a LOT of evidence, and be together for quite a while before getting married and applying.



Also she would need a Temporary Resident Visa to stay with you in Canada, which I believe you can renew (I am not 100% sure as my husband is from a visa-exempt country.. ). Information is here: Visiting Canada: Temporary Resident Visas – How to apply (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/apply-how.asp)

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 02:55 PM
Thank you Sariss... that is very helpful... can I just marry her there? What is the procedure for that? Can she come back with me or stay there to apply for visas? Is the marriage valid in canada? How can I prove it is genuine... her family... my ex.. how do I prove I love and will sponsor or support her? I have lots of questions

tickle
Jan 7, 2012, 03:00 PM
i talked to one a couple months ago...felt i was in love...she phoned me and sounded like an old newfie woman...FRAUD

You are from the maritimes then, fish? I hope you stay on and talk more and educate others. Your input, as hard as it was to do, and accept your apology, is appreciated. I recognized really, where you were coming from. God bless

Wondergirl
Jan 7, 2012, 03:14 PM
Please realize that we see countless Ghana fraud questions on this site, so the minute a new one shows up on the screen, our spidey senses go on alert. We really want to keep people from being scammed and end up losing not only money but their pride.

We would all be delighted if this is legit and works out well for you. It isn't a happy ending we ever see. Please keep us informed of how it's going.

Sariss
Jan 7, 2012, 03:16 PM
thankyou Sariss...that is very helpful...can i just marry her there? what is the procedure for that? can she come back with me or stay there to apply for visas? is the marriage valid in canada? How can i prove it is genuine...her family...my ex..how do i prove i love and will sponsor or support her? I have lots of questions

I know nothing about immigration to Ghana - I only know about immigration into Canada as I am in the process of sponsoring my American Spouse.

She would have to apply for her visa in Ghana, and present it when she lands in Canada.
Proving a relationship is genuine would include things such as phone bills, chat logs, records of visits, pictures of you two together, pictures from the wedding ceremony, proof of things such as joint bank accounts and other affairs that have been combined, letters from family and friends who can explain how they feel you two are genuinely in love, etc etc.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 7, 2012, 03:57 PM
Yes, you will need to show a history together for a marriage visa. As for as the marriage there, you get married with a marriage license, you can have a pastor do the wedding and you have a marriage license, A marriage in one nation is valid in another nation as long as it is not illegal in your nation. Like multiple wives or same sex in some places. Validty of a valid wedding is not an issue.

odinn7
Jan 7, 2012, 04:05 PM
I don't really know why I'm doing this... I am just inviting an opportunity to get a negative for my answer I suppose... others have already stated this and the OP claims he is aware but any time I see something like this, I feel I need to input to maybe help someone keep from being scammed.

I have an extensive background in dealing with online scammers. The fact that "she" hasn't asked for money from you yet in one month does not mean she is real. You have stated that she knows you are not about giving her money and she is OK with that. I've seen it. She will wait a while longer until you start proclaiming your love for her. Once she feels that you really are hooked, then it will turn. She may desperately want to come see you but at the time will suddenly have a problem where she will need money for the passport, visa, and maybe the plane ticket. Or it will come when her mother needs an operation. Or maybe something will happen to her that she needs an operation. I once dealt with one who was writing to me from her deathbed in the hospital after a near fatal car accident. Then I dealt with her "doctor" who told me how bad off she was and how $400 would save her life. Anyway, she is not asking for money yet because you are not hooked... it will come.

I hope I'm wrong and that yours is the one that really works out... yet I've seen too much of this and I hate just sitting by while someone gets scammed.

Good luck and please, as Wondergirl asked, keep us informed.

oscarfish44
Jan 7, 2012, 04:53 PM
Wow... I am really impressed with the responses. It gave me new insight and new awareness. I will keep you informed... I have learned so much in 12 hours... my appreciation to all... except excon.. haha. I am always suspicious... that is why I came to this site... thankyou again to all for the help

no... when it comes to newfie girls... what an absolute turn-off. Not only is newfie such a turn-off an old one is even worse. Alberta born and raised

Sariss
Jan 7, 2012, 05:04 PM
Oscar, if you are indeed interested in having her come to Canada to live with you I highly recommend you join this site and post: it is pretty much THE best site for immigration I have found, the people there are SO knowledgeable and helpful.
Family Class Sponsorship (http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/family-class-sponsorship-b5.0/)

Wondergirl
Jan 7, 2012, 05:42 PM
my appreciation to all...except excon..haha.
I've known excon for nearly ten years. If I ever want someone to watch my back or tell me the honest truth, I'd ask him.

Jake2008
Jan 9, 2012, 03:48 AM
You want to marry a woman you met online, that you've never met, and have been talking to her online for a month. And you say, "she wants to meet through video call and telephone", so you've not even seen her, or talked to her on the phone.

I don't think anybody needs to be an expert to know this sounds a littl suspicious.

Why it is suspicious, is that there have been many before you that have come to AMHD, with the same problem, only in different variations, but essentially the same scam. She knows you will have difficulty getting to her, and it will very likely end up you will send her money to come to Canada, and she'll never board a plane. You'll never hear from her again, and she'll have moved on to the next sucker.

While she has you on the hook, there are likely others, all doing the same thing. Following leads that others have found for them, who also get a percentage of the money. That is the way scams work. It is all about the money.

You may want to check out Immigration Canada for requirements on extended visas, etc. and also search for new legislation that involves situations just like yours, that involve immigration under false pretense. People are deported all the time for false applications- if they get here at all. Which I don't think your 'girlfriend' intends anyway.

She doesn't want to marry you, she wants your money. Do your homework. Do some research. Don't get suckered.

oscarfish44
Jan 9, 2012, 04:39 AM
I told her of my worries... This is her response coppied.. "Mark i my self told u alot people are scammer online not only ghana all over the world,when u told me u are talking to someone from Ghana i my self warn u about scam and u told me there person is real and i told u they are all not real b cos of what happen to me online,u have to forget about this website thing, they are people like us how can every girl in is a scammer it does make sence to be honest,there are alot of scammer in everywhere but the are few good once out there waiting for mr right,tradtional marriage do i ever mention something like this to u Mark,i am a Good christan i dont believe in that thing,it is a local marriage,baby i promise i will prove to u i am real,i will go and collect my friend cam for u to see me is that okay with u"... should I worry??

tickle
Jan 9, 2012, 04:48 AM
Hi again oscarfish. We are only doubting because this has come up here so many times before. Some have actually come back and thanked us for the cautions.

I know what you think, but, but please be cautious and don't maker any rash decisions.

Any news on your passport problem ?

excon
Jan 9, 2012, 07:01 AM
i am a Good christan.....should I worry???Hello again, o:

Nahhhh... I didn't know she was a GOOD CHRISTIAN...

excon

Jake2008
Jan 9, 2012, 10:33 AM
I am really sorry this is happening to you. Ghana in particular, or any other place around the world, but particularly Ghana, is known for scams. She is likely paid by the percentage, of calls she gets hits on. She is selling something- and that is love. If she has to 'borrow' a webcam, that is suspicious in itself, because what computer in the last several years doesn't have a webcam. If she is borrowing one from someone, why doesn't she just buy one herself if she is so interested in you. She did say money wasn't an 'issue', right?

Most likely the person you will see on the cam, is not her.

Try phoning her first. Ask her simply for her phone number. You will at least hear her voice before she hooks up the webcam. Ask her the name of the company she works for, and verify such a company exists- by Google, by phone, by Google maps even. Ask her for her home address, and her history- who her parents are, what they do, etc. If you are considering asking her to marry you, these are things you should already know.

Just for a moment, pretend that she is trying to sell you something. List the facts as you know them, and as you have said them in your first post. You would be very foolish to fall for anything without asking a LOT of questions.

Try making up a story. Tell her that you were let go from your job because the company closed down. You are behind in the rent, or with mortgage payments, and you may have to go and live with your mother until you get back on your feet. See how supportive she is then. Block all objections and excuses with more questions.

Please face this, and save yourself a lot of grief, should she turn out to be like so many others that do exactly what she is doing.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 9, 2012, 10:39 AM
This is common. She will use her friends cam once, that will be a very pretty girl paid to do video cams. After that there will be a reason she can not use the web cam again.

And of course she will tell you that she will not need something, at least for a couple months then all of a sudden there will be an emergency, and it is only going to be a little money.

odinn7
Jan 9, 2012, 03:54 PM
.....should I worry???

I wouldn't worry at all... I would simply just not be sending her any money (or moneys as they usually call it)... I know it's hard to hear but we're not just telling you this to ruin your life. We are telling you this to try and save you from being ripped off.

One point... any scammer I have ever dealt with always made sure at some point to tell me what a great christian they are. I think they believe that if they tell you that, it will make you believe them more easily. I told one that I worshipped the Great Haplopelma ( a spider) and suddenly, so did they. They converted from being a great christian to following the religion of the Great Haplopelma, claiming that they were only testing me to see if I "was true". I guess some do believe but they will tell you or do anything that they think will get you to give up your money.

talaniman
Jan 9, 2012, 06:05 PM
Wonder if you are the only one she talks to on line? You may never know, but for sure I wouldn't invest anything into this iffy situation.

Look guy I would think it simply crazy to meet someone in person, and give them your heart in just a month. Online?? That's even crazier since you know absolutely nothing except what she tells you, and who really knows? Come on, you have no clue what you are even getting into, and you can't be serious about traveling to a strange place for a strange person, on a promise?

NO WAY!!

oscarfish44
Jan 11, 2012, 06:46 AM
I read a lot of the response and I do really thank you for the input. A few days ago, I sent an email detailing my interests, my hopes and my life in general. In her response, she stated none of these. She sent me a couple of paragraphs that seemed to be taken out of a poetry book. How she thanked god that I had appeared in her life, how I was destined to spend life with her in bliss and for eternity. There was no reference to my letter at all. A day prior, she was able to "borrow" a web-cam and she did not look like the pictures I had of her... I explained this in the letter as well and she did not mention it. Like I said, straight out of a poetry book. I ended it tactfully. I thank all who helped. Is the Philippines any better? Had a few strippers, but some very nice young ladies.

NeedKarma
Jan 11, 2012, 06:50 AM
If you continue with long distance onlne relationships you're going to get burned much more often than you'll find happiness. Go local.

Jake2008
Jan 11, 2012, 07:19 AM
Kudo's to all who turned your head around- one for us!

I'm very happy that you axed this woman, and cut out before you lost your shirt- as many have.

I agree with Karma- let this be a lesson to you. Find a local girl.

Good luck to you.

Sariss
Jan 12, 2012, 08:19 PM
Find a local girl - I agree. Or if you're going to go foreign, do it in a place that is less full of scammers. My husband came from the USA, but I guess that isn't too foreign...

samnimley
Nov 8, 2012, 10:55 PM
What is your crime?