Hello:

In the REAL world, Christians are in charge.. In FOX News world, there's a war on Christmas and Christians are an endangered species.

Which world do you reside in?

excon

Can you tell me which report by O'Reilley is in error ? I'd have to look it up because generally my television gets tuned to other non-news programing after Colbert .

can you tell me which report by O'Reilley is in error ? I'd have to look it up because generally my television gets tuned to other non-news programing after Colbert .Hello again, tom:

Not particularly... But, it's something he trots out every year at this time. Do you want me to find one or more of his idiotic rants?? That shouldn't pose a problem.

But, it's not just him... It's ALL the political people over there. ALL OF 'EM.

excon

You know very well that the last group it's PC OK to mock are Christians... especially Catholic nuns.
You know very well there is a concerted effort to remove references to the religious aspects of the holiday season. I don't know how wide spread it is... however ,I see nothing wrong with there being public awareness of such attempts.

I haven't heard him start his war on the war of Christmas thing this year, but if there is one (and there is) our side is apparently getting some victories (http://www.charismanews.com/culture/32406-walgreens-reverses-decision-to-nix-christmas-gifts).

Hello:

In the REAL world, Christians are in charge.. In FOX News world, there's a war on Christmas and Christians are an endangered species.

Which world do you reside in?

excon

At what point did you discover Christians are in charge? From my point of view it is a very different people who like to remain well hidden. Christians are an endangered species on many parts of the planet and real Christians represent a very small percentage of the general population.

We are blessed indeed not to be subjected to Fox News but I'm sure we see the results in other forms. I'm surprised your media is at all interested in Christian matters. Where I come from the Christian interest is completely ignored

Christians are an endangered species on many parts of the planet and real Christians represent a very small percentage of the general population.


There is actually a revival of Christianity in many 3rd world nations... unfortunately... the US is now at best a missionary nation.

There is actually a revival of Christianity in many 3rd world nations ....unfortunately .... the US is now at best a missionary nation.

Yes Tom that's where materialism gets you, belief in nothing but the great god, SELF.

We would be happy to send you some missionaries if we could find some

School prayer was outlawed decades ago, so why are Muslims allowed to pray in the cafeteria in Toronto public schools, any other group would no be allowed to do it so why should Muslims keep getting their way all the time? Western countries need to stop coddling them and letting them get away with everything. In Oslo, Norway, local women are afraid to go out in public because of an epidemic of rape by Muslim men who think that they can rape any woman who isn't wearing a headscarf. The wimpy media can't even say that Muslims are responsible, instead referring to them as "non-Western" immigrants, which is false and an insult to the many law-abiding non-immigrants.

School prayer was outlawed decades ago, so why are Muslims allowed to pray in the cafeteria in Toronto public schools, Hello earl:

I don't know about Canadian law, but it wouldn't be permitted in the US. At least ORGANIZED prayer wouldn't be. A few people gathered together to quietly pray on school grounds WOULD be perfectly OK.

excon

O'Reilly is an idiot on most subjects. This is no different.

If he's an idiot, then why did so many stores return to acknowledging Christmas after he started his counter-offensive?

If he's an idiot, then why did so many stores return to acknowledging Christmas after he started his counter-offensive?Hello again, Steve:

Oh, he's an idiot, all right. But, he's a POWERFUL idiot. All he'd have to do is mention that Kohls, for example, is saying happy holidays, and NOT what he'd like them to say, and their Christmas season will bust.

excon

And if the majority did not share his view ,then Kohl's wouldn't have to worry about it.

Power to the people! Or is that only for a handful of spoiled occupiers mad because they can't find work with their degree in Sanskrit?

Boycotts work. The left employs them effectively .

Boycotts work. The left employs them effectively .Hello again:

Couple things here.

Steve reported that some stores have RETURNED to saying Merry Christmas after apparently being intimidated by O'Reilly. I didn't question whether it was so or not, I only suggested that if it was, WHY it was.

In fact, I don't know of any stores that are doing that AS A RESULT of an attack by O'Reilly.

excon

OK, so O'Reilly had a lot of help from the American Family Association and the Catholic League, but he had the audience to get the message out and the people responded. Is this a great country or what?

P.S. How's that donut tasting this week?

If he's an idiot, then why did so many stores return to acknowledging Christmas after he started his counter-offensive?

Show me a store that did that and I will show you an idiot running that store. You are giving this idiot credit for something he doesn't deserve doing.

Bill took a hot topic, made it his own, and no retailer in America listens to Bill when it comes to making customers come through the door.

A capitalist with no customers is OUT of business. People with no money makes lousy customers. No such thing as LEFT money, and RIGHT money. ITS ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY can you bring me?!

No such thing as LEFT money, and RIGHT money. ITS ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY can you bring me?!!!!

Exactly. People that spend money threatened not to spend money and Christmas is once again Christmas, not happy whatever.

Walgreens for one made a recent ,very public mea culpa about the error of it's ways .
Retailers are calling it ?Christmas? again | Believe It or Not | a Chron.com blog (http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2011/11/retailers-are-calling-it-%E2%80%98christmas%E2%80%99-again/)

tis the season to be jolly !!!

But because that idiot Bill yammered about it, that's what they did? I don't think so. The right has been hollering about PC groups infringing on their rights for years. Doesn't matter how any one else's rights have been infringed.

Like I said ,boycotts are a legit form of protest. Just ask the Occupy crowd .
https://www.facebook.com/boycottblackfridaythisyear

T'is the season to be silly. Perhaps we could persude OWS to hold a sit-in in a public fountain so they could get a bath, by the way it seems they have faded away here as the latest not global warming weather change has given us the coldest December day in 44 years not an occupy supporter in sight

But because that idiot Bill yammered about it, that's what they did? I don't think so. The right has been hollering about PC groups infringing on their rights for years.

I acknowledged groups like AFA and the Catholic League were behind the boycotts, but O'Reilly has a huge audience and people responded and in turn, retailers got the message.


Doesn't matter how any one else's rights have been infringed.

LOL, I can't wait to hear how people's rights were infringed upon by stores selling Christmas merchandise.

I acknowledged groups like AFA and the Catholic League were behind the boycotts, but O'Reilly has a huge audience and people responded and in turn, retailers got the message.Hello again, Steve:

Please show me where the stores HAD a policy of NOT acknowledging Christmas, and CHANGED it in response to the boycott.

excon

PS> My doughnut got spoilt.. Left it out in the sun. Ate it. Got sick...

T'is the season to be silly. perhaps we could persude OWS to hold a sit-in in a public fountain so they could get a bath, by the way it seems they have faded away here as the latest not global warming weather change has given us the coldest December day in 44 years not an occupy supporter in sight

They have gone into Valley Forge like hybernation . Make no mistake ;this exercise in the fall was a prelude for their spring and summer offensive. The summer Dem and Republic conventions should be interesting . Will the Daley's of Charlotte, North Carolina and Tampa, Florida 'preserve disorder' ?

["The police are not here to create disorder. They are here to preserve disorder." ]Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley during the 1968 Democratic National Convention

Hello again, Steve:

Please show me where the stores HAD a policy of NOT acknowledging Christmas, and CHANGED it in response to the boycott.

excon

PS> My doughnut got spoilt.. Left it out in the sun. Ate it. Got sick...

Walgreens responds to flood of calls (http://www.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147514100)

This whole thing is a hysterically funny power ploy. Yeah, I'm right sure that were Christ walking the earth today he'd be all up in arms about what we call the season. HE doesn't care what the hell we call it, experts say he wasn't born during the season at all anyway.

I would guess that all Christ himself would want out of the season is that we remember to be kind to one another, accepting and helpful to the poor and needy. Anybody wondering where the poor and needy are, take a good look 'round.

I'm not so much into Christianity since Christians got all weird and proprietary about 'what Christ wants'. All he wanted was for us to be decent human beings and I don't recall slavish salivating at his feet to be amusing to him in anything I've read.

Hello E:

Facts, of course, are no deterrent to the fake outrage machine at FOX, because FOX isn't really interested in preventing religious bigotry. In a majority-Christian nation whose politics and culture are steeped in Christianity, these FOX zealots are interested in pretending their fellow Christians are somehow oppressed, contradictory facts be damned.

In propagating such an illusion, they're not earnestly embodying their religion's missionary spirit. Instead, they're manufacturing victimhood, all to gin up sympathy and create a rationale to continue ramrodding their theology down everyone else's throats.

That some feel this need to push their faith with such craven tactics speaks volumes about the nature of FOX News. Sure, our tumultuous world of bombast and chaos leads us to assume that the loudest are the most devout. But in practice, those who are truly comfortable in their faith are often the most humble about their orthodoxies because they have nothing to prove. By contrast, those who are the most insecure in their beliefs can sometimes be the most in-your-face about their dogma.

excon

I can assure you it is not the devout that make a mockery of the season.It was not in your face Christians in a near riot over Air Jordans today. If anything it's the secular distortions that cause the excesses of the season.

Walgreens responds to flood of calls (http://www.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=2147514100)

LOL! Naughty or Nice Christmas List 2011 (http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147486887) Are they really serious? What a waste of time and effort.

excon,

I'm too old to be naïve, but I do not and never will understand what the function of all the outrage and victim-hood can be. All I can see is either a perverted glee in controlling people and watching the puppets perform, or the ubiquitous power plays and money moves. My best guess is both.

I got an email that said simply:

"Stop worrying about what the season is called and go out and help someone who is suffering."

Love, Christ

I always think of Mother Theresa and her quiet service that was sometimes punctuated with a bit of spice telling people to get up and do something other than - er - moan.

Eilish

Hello again,

This year has been particularly illustrative, as the fake FOX outrage machine got underway.

In just the last few weeks, the Heritage Foundation billed an Agriculture Department initiative to raise revenue for tree farmers as a "Christmas Tree Tax"; FOX News said that standard federal safety warnings were proof that the government wants to "tell you how to decorate your Christmas tree"; and they criticized Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee, an Independent, for daring to consecrate a "holiday tree" — rather than a "Christmas Tree" — at the Statehouse.

I don't know. To some the loudest and most bombastic are seen as the most devout. But to ME, and I'm NOT a Christian, those who are truly comfortable in their faith are often the most humble.

excon

Why should us tax payers pay a promotional fee to promote a product like a real Christmas tree because it is losing market share to fake trees ? If that is the best the Dept Ag. Can do then there is another Dept that should not exist.

I don't mind if the Christmas tree industry sets up it's own marketing gimic like "got milk "?. But why should the taxpayer subsidize it .
To put this issue into a category called "war on Christmas " is also quite a stretch . If Fox is doing so then they are engaging in a distortion. Conservative should not support the initiative for the reasons I gave . It has nothing to do with the religious celebration .

The issue with the former RINO now "Independent " Chafee is his attempt to scrub the name of the holiday in a semantics ploy . It is deliberately disrepectful to the traditions of the many who celebrate Christmas by decorating a tree.
There would be similar deserved outrage over him putting up a Menorah and calling it a Holiday Candelabra and it would make as much sense to change it to those words .

Many others celebrate the season both with, and without trees, so when government says happy holiday, might that mean everyone? This is a nondenominational nation.

Not too many people celebrating Saturnalia these days .

What do you mean Tom? Your whole nation is celebrating it

Those 60's free love guys are to old to celebrate.

LOL! Naughty or Nice Christmas List 2011 (http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147486887) Are they really serious? What a waste of time and effort.

Really? Between 60 and 75 percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. That's a pretty big customer base to piss off as Walgreens discovered.

Many others celebrate the season both with, and without trees, so when government says happy holiday, might that mean everyone?? This is a nondenominational nation.

Christmas is Christmas, a federally recognized holiday. It can be nothing else but Christmas. They don't say "happy holidays" at the Ramadan festivities at the White House, call it what it is.

Christmas is Christmas, a federally recognized holiday. It can be nothing else but Christmas. They don't say "happy holidays" at the Ramadan festivities at the White House, call it what it is.Sure they do. Anyway Christmas is about Santa Claus and gift giving and bring with family.

Sure they do.

No they don't, they celebrate Ramadan.


Continuing a tradition at the White House, last night President Obama hosted his third Iftar dinner to celebrate Ramadan. The Iftar is the meal that breaks the day of fasting, when Muslim families and communities eat together after sunset. The President was joined in the State Dining Room by two Muslim American members of Congress, Keith Ellison and Andre Carson, members of the diplomatic corps, and Muslim American families and service members. During his remarks the President wished a blessed Ramadan to Muslim Americans and Muslims around the world:


To the millions of Muslim Americans across the United States and more -- the more than one billion Muslims around the world, Ramadan is a time of reflection and a time of devotion. It’s an occasion to join with family and friends in celebration of a faith known for its diversity and a commitment to justice and the dignity of all human beings. So to you and your families, Ramadan Kareem.



I didn't see any mention of "holidays" in his remarks (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/08/10/remarks-president-during-iftar-dinner), happy or otherwise.


Anyway Christmas is about Santa Claus and gift giving and bring with family.

Christmas has been and always will be first about the birth of Jesus.

I could've sworn the President called it the Holiday Candelabra when he lit all the candles on the Menorah at once during the White House Hanukkah celebration(2 weeks early ) .
Obama violates protocol by lighting candles on the menorah before Hanukkah - NYPOST.com (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/bam_blows_candles_XpnqlitFiIsEqLVNREEYtM)

LOL, what a boob. Takes care to have a nice Ramadan bash and remains clueless about Hanukkah.

Sure they do. Anyway Christmas is about Santa Claus and gift giving and bring with family.

If I didn't know you were joking I would say you are niaive. Christmas has become what materialism made it, the invention of commercialism. There is only one thing that Christmas is about, God's gift to the world. It isn't about anythingelse

Christmas has been and always will be first about the birth of Jesus.For the religious types, other than that in the US it's all about the sales in the stores.

Krama for the commercial types is is always about sales but for some of us it is about something different. There is always an excuse to make a buck

Praclete, in the US it's always about making a buck.

For the religious types, other than that in the US it's all about the sales in the stores.

NK, I get it but it doesn't matter whether anyone actually celebrates Christmas (literally "Christ mass") for the intended purpose, it is still the commemoration of Christ's birth. Period.

it is still the commemoration of Christ's birth. Period.Nope, no longer, you guys lost that battle, consumerism won it.

Nope, no longer, you guys lost that battle, consumerism won it.

Whatever.