View Full Version : Am I being scammed for marriage in Ghana?
gil123
Nov 14, 2011, 11:01 AM
How can I tell if I am not being scam for marriage. So far I seen her on Video cam several times, Spoke to her on Cell phone dozen of times,sent many photos of her that match her on video cam, She want me to go Ghana to meet her family. She did ask for little money but not much. She want to get married to me and want to come to US to start a family. She say there agent there can do the paper work and she say is easier to do it there than in USA. I did research some info here in USA and does take some time to paper work and money. Is she real or just playing with my heart.
NeedKarma
Nov 14, 2011, 11:07 AM
99% of these are scams. BTW why would you want to marry someone you've never met in real life?
gil123
Nov 14, 2011, 11:21 AM
No.. that's why I want to go there to Ghana to see her and she is happy about it... Is this real... If is real I want to go for it but if not I will not go for it and just call occaioally.
NeedKarma
Nov 14, 2011, 11:34 AM
I doubt it's real, sorry. For you to go to Ghana would not involve sending any money to her would it? Tell her that (that you want to visit but not send any money beforehand) and let us know what happens.
gil123
Nov 14, 2011, 11:45 AM
Under normal circumstances it would not but in ghana I know times are hard for eveyone so a little money not going to hurt me much as is for food for her... and she really wants me to come down and see her to establish that she is not a fake and she really sincere about she not a fake... what so you think
odinn7
Nov 14, 2011, 12:32 PM
I think, and I know, that a lot of times scammers will get you to go to them and take your money that way. It's not uncommon for the scammers to get nasty and rob you if they think they can get it out of you that way.
Is she for real? I don't know for sure but I would say chances are that she is not. Would I go there to find out? No way.
NeedKarma
Nov 14, 2011, 12:35 PM
It's unfortunate that the one girl you meet online is from the #1 scamming country for this type of thing: https://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=ghana+marriage+scam&btnG=Google+Search&safe=active#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=active&source=hp&q=ghana+dating+scam&pbx=1&oq=ghana+dating+scam&aq=f&aqi=g3g-m1&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=0l0l2l320l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=3a6326f9fd37185b&biw=1680&bih=897
gil123
Nov 14, 2011, 01:39 PM
Are they any real marriage from online chat in Ghana... and what's there story would like to hear about it before I do anything else. Sometimes I feel she is a fake and sometime I feel she is not is 50/50. But how do I know she is not a fake... I see the percentage is against her but when I talk to her and sounds like a young women and don't believe she is a fake based on her tone and the way she speaks to me about us. What do I do about this.
gil123
Nov 14, 2011, 01:46 PM
If she wasn't real then why she want me to come down to make sure she is a real person and have real intentions with me if she a fake. At first she did not want me to mention her to my friends and family but now she wants the world to know about us and also she calls me here in the USA at times just to talk to me... Help me out here
Fr_Chuck
Nov 14, 2011, 06:02 PM
Most real marriage are those arranged by people from Ghana here in the US who arrange marriage for family members.
Not that I approve.
But next there are lots of charity work in Ghana, The Church of Christ has a lot of operatoins there. As do most other larger churches.
In your case, the person you are talking to, is the one you are chatting with.
Of course the passport and visa ( visa has to come from the US government though the embassy or though US immigration) but both cost about 300 US dollars, so there is not much cost involved.
It is an interesting nation, and a great place to do a visit, so if you have the money to do so, I would go and see.
Remember the person you are talking to, has the money for internet, video and more.
gil123
Nov 14, 2011, 08:21 PM
Thanks for your response and does sound promising... but when she went on video cam was using her friends and now has to go to café to go online, she say is about 1 US dollar for 1 hour use and did use her friends phone camera to take a video of herself. I spoke with today on phone and does not sound like a fake based in her highs and lows in her voice and the way she has respect for me. If a fake a person can tell right away if she is lying but does not seem that way. I believe I have a traditional ghana women but is mix race and a christian women... what is your opinion?
odinn7
Nov 14, 2011, 08:41 PM
Seriously... how many times can you keep asking us the same question but worded differently?
Honestly, I hope she is real... I really do. From what I know and what I have learned, she is most likely not real.
How did the 2 of you start contacting each other? Was it an email from her out of nowhere? This is often a tip off that you are being scammed.
gil123
Nov 14, 2011, 08:50 PM
She not out of nowhere was through a dating website called Filipinocupid.com where we first made contact on there chat and went from there. And think you should not be so negative because there are still good people out there.
odinn7
Nov 14, 2011, 09:19 PM
I'm not necessarily being negative here... you keep asking for opinions and we gave them to you... but you keep asking for more. So to me, if you keep asking, you have doubts still. It actually sounds to me like you are trying to convince yourself that she is OK. Like you want all of us to tell you that 'sure, she's for real, go for it.'
I do have to wonder how you 'met' a woman from Ghana on a Filipino dating site... but anyway...
Unfortunately, I have trouble believing she is real. I hope I'm wrong because I think you are going to go through with this. I do hope she is real for your sake.
Do us all a favor please... if you do go and meet her, please come back here and tell us how it all went.
Take care.
Fr_Chuck
Nov 14, 2011, 09:50 PM
I have 100's of Ghana friends locally, and it is not uncommon for them to be Christian, so what church locally does she go to,
Humm but how often was she on web cam ? Now she can't be ? There is so much iffy on this, I would say as long as you don't send money but what I am concerned about, she will get you hooked, convinced and then all of a sudden the money will come up. A little at first, food, rent.
30 dollars, 100 dollars. Then all of a sudden, someone is hurt, sick, she does not call for a few days and that friend emails that she has been in a accident and so on.
gil123
Nov 14, 2011, 11:09 PM
Odinn7... you are right on the most part but her mother is Filipino and father is Ghana. I did ask for your opinion and I thanks you and anyone else for giving it. I have her address and her uncles, I have her phone number, email, sister name, she has send a letter to my house, I have her DOB. If I ever send money again she would have to come up with an ID. I know some things are still Iffy about certain issues but going to see how she react to it.
Fr_chuck.. has been awhile since she been on cam but she say will go on soon again. She say was in a accident but did not send any money said need it for medicine but could not tell me for what and know she not a doctor either. So I said to myself let see now and did not contact her for a week. And now sent no money and she still want to continue with me.
Fr_Chuck
Nov 15, 2011, 06:20 AM
As long as you don't send any money you are OK, It is so hard to tell good from scam, The scam people will keep up the emails for months even a year or so, as long as they think they will get you attached.
What worries me is that the cam stopped, this is why, They use and pay a pretty girl to do the video cams, get you hooked, then grandma or grandpa or a room full of people who do the scams, take over the emails.
Look over the emails, look for changes in grammar, spelling and the such.
gil123
Nov 15, 2011, 10:51 AM
Chuck... We don't usually email but when she does I see no changes in spelling and grammar. I think the only way to be 100% sure is to go down to Ghana for a visit and I am due a short vacation anyway.One things that put questions marks in my head was when she was in an accident her mother chat with me. The chat grammar started with lots of misspelling but as she went on it started to get better and better as we chatted. Her mother is about 65 and I find it hard for a women to chat on a phone to chat with average speed... She got out and I told her better to talk over phone than do a chat and she was fine with it. I still see good in her even she may a scammer but hope she not... she just went online to chat let me see... Thanks to all for info but haven't decided anything with her yet but I hope I decide soon
NeedKarma
Nov 15, 2011, 11:38 AM
I still see good in her even she may a scammer ...
If she is a scammer then she feels absolutely nothing for you but views you as just anoher mark. She (they) are likely juggling several people like you.
Here's our canadian traveller advisory about that area: Ghana Travel Advice and Advisories | Government of Canada (http://www.voyage.gc.ca/countries_pays/report_rapport-eng.asp?id=101000)
odinn7
Nov 15, 2011, 03:44 PM
The scam people will keep up the emails for months even a year or so, as long as they think they will get you attached.
That's the truth. I have strung plenty of them along for well over 6 months in their hopes that they would get a big pay off. I had one go for nearly a year until I got tired of it. Dating scammers, lotto scammers, found money scammers... they're all the same... Greedy. They'll hang on as long as they think they can get a pay off.
Fr_Chuck
Nov 15, 2011, 10:35 PM
I had one, I was having fun with ( OK fun getting all of those letters,) for months, they were kidnapped at the end of it, and needed money to save them.
But the scam varies, in some they are already in the US, but just another state, and just need plane money or even bus fare. ( I guess if you get enough people to send 200 dollars it still is a lot of money.
But heck I would love to go to Ghana again, there are lots of wonderful people, and some of the hardest working people I know. Ate at a dinner ran by a Ghana couple today for lunch.
And people of course do have accidents, I have a serious one about 2 week ago.
But also, yes old people do text and message fairly fast at times. While I have a slight spelling problem, I can in general out type many people 1/2 my age.
gil123
Nov 17, 2011, 11:47 AM
I think at this point I will talk to her over the phone only this way I know who I am speaking with. I will
Not chat with her online to cut down if there is someone else chatting with me unless it is necessary.I will
Chat with her if she start going on video cam again. She seem to be a really nice person, and I know you
Think she sweeting me up but this way I talk to her on phone to weed out the any deception to find any truth
Or any other.
gil123
Dec 1, 2011, 02:53 PM
Here the situation now... not talking to this women much anymore!! She did ask for money for food but I held it off so she kept calling about it then after that she never call back or email about what going on with me. I am very suspicious about her action and I think she is a fake... about 3 weeks ago she sent me a video of her and in the background was sounded like someone speaking either Russian or Ukrainian... I ask her about she say they speaking Mexican and I know for a fact that was not Mexican because I live AROUND A LOT OF them and can tell is not Mexican. I caught her in a straight up lie and maybe she is Russian. I will ask one of my Russian friend to make sure or not... but for sure is not of Spanish language
odinn7
Dec 1, 2011, 03:32 PM
Sorry that this is all seeming to be a scam... it's a hard thing to find out that someone you cared about and who you thought cared about you is only trying to rip you off. The good thing is that you were able to realize this before it cost you too much money.
gil123
Dec 16, 2011, 11:55 AM
All of you on the most part right about this women that I was seeking. I found out she was on scam alert on the Ghana immigration website surprised to my eyes their she was and had a fake passport also. I not sure if that was whom I been talking with or chatting with... maybe the video cam she was on in the beginning probably a recording of her like you said who hire pretty girl to do this. I am just upset about what I have seem.
Wondergirl
Dec 16, 2011, 11:59 AM
Like odinn said, we're glad you figured this out sooner than later. That's what I like about this site -- people care about each other and do their best to help each other.
Fr_Chuck
Dec 16, 2011, 12:10 PM
Many times they sell or use fake ID and photos from dozens of scammers. Also often the person you are email or chatting with may be a 60 year old grandma just paid to talk to people.
Online often men even play the roles of the girls.
They keep a history of all the chats so they know what was talked about before. And they have written scripts to follow.
gil123
Dec 16, 2011, 12:47 PM
I have this other Ghana women I am chatting with... Did see her on cam but going to make sure its not s recording or what... We seem to like each other and she not ask no money. She said she a teacher and can provide for herself but did want to come to usa to be with me. She has expired passport and will pay expenses to get here though she ask for some help for total expense to come here. So far she has not ask for food money, no accident money, no I have malaria money yet but as I go along I will see.
mralabanza2012
Jan 2, 2012, 09:13 AM
I too have meet a woman online from Ghana. She has told me that she needs $280.00 dollars to come to San francisco to come here to marry me. Its for a visa and passport. I have never meet this person in my life and she keeps telling me on how are life will be when we get married and that she loves me. I KNOW THIS IS A SCAM BUT
HOW CAN I GET THIS PERSON TO COME TO THE SAN FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA WITHOUT Using MY OWN MONEY. I will not send her the $280.00 and once she gets it she gone! Never to be seen again. I REALLY WANT TO CATCH THIS PERSON AND PUT HER BEHIND BARS. I Don't KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE SHE HAS SCAMMED IN HER LIFETIME BUT I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW THESE SCAMMERS THAT THEY CAN BE CAUGHT AND BE PUT IN JAIL. So if you have any ideas on how to catch this scammer from ghana please email me some tips on how to catch her and put her behind bars. Please email me at >Removed< with your tips and answers.
Thank you
Fr_Chuck
Jan 2, 2012, 09:38 AM
You are not going to catch them, this is one of Ghana's largest business, they have large offices with rows of people on computer, on phone and on video every day doing this 1000's of times.
They are script writers.
Just like this poor guy who will not accept it is a fraud, now has another girl, of course he does, the same office with the first girl, dropped her when she was found fake, so now all of a sudden there is another girl, who does not need as much money, but they will get a little.
These groups control the local government, and are beyond any law enforcement. If you went there to catch them, you would just be dead in a alley way, killed by the bad guys, if they did not merely hire the police to kill you for them.
gil123
Jan 2, 2012, 05:34 PM
mralabanza2012... if you go to the ghanaimmigration.org website you can see the actual cost for passports/visa and last time I check was 70.00 for express service but not sure if 280.00 included the fee for the agent who they say is processing all the docs.. Go to the webpage and check the scam alert page maybe she is there the 1st women I was chatting with is on it, the blond hair women if you check the site out. Let me know may be the same women you chatting with... Have you ever seen her on cam yet... if you seen her in beginning that would be it you will never again see her on cam again... they will have excuse not to... but perhaps this may be real or have her share the cost... let me know what happens
gil123
Jan 2, 2012, 09:29 PM
This second women emailed me her expired passport to me but found out is fake... I compared it to the fake and real passport formats on the ghanaimmigration.org website and found is same format as some of the fakes ones than the real ones. So what the F.. k these people think we are!! Born yesterday even I did give a little cash to the first women... This women already know I am going to check that website so how stupid is she... I talk to this women earlier today but does not talk or soumd like the chat or email like with the person I am talking with over the phone... I going to play her game for minute and see how she reacts... This women sent me a few pics of her to me to my house... if she was real sure would be a good thing but I guess now is not... and she again refuse to go on cam.. This person suppose to be a teacher but but has few words to say always Uhhhmmmmm and seems has hard time getting the words out but when on chat has easier time with the words so tells me is someone else... I just hope the best for them and hope they stop all this scams
NeedKarma
Jan 3, 2012, 06:08 AM
Why are you stuill online chatting with women from Ghana? What's the point?
Fr_Chuck
Jan 3, 2012, 08:11 AM
They keep trying because you keep talking, somewhere you want to believe, so they will try again, perhaps this time with a real passport, ( they do that do, by steal or borrow but buy or using someone with a real passport. So they will just improve. Since you sent money once and will keep talking with them, they think they have a chance. ( which they do, since you keep going back to them)
mralabanza2012
Jan 3, 2012, 08:46 AM
I found out that she was a scam. She goes by the name of qteye martey. I WAS LOOKING ON YOU TUBE UNDER SCAMS IN GHANA. AnD I FOUND HER PICTURE ON THIS VIEDO.Now she is still saying that this is the work of this guy that brought her to the u.s.a a while back. This so call guy larry that she said put her picture on this video and now I believe that she is a scam artist. She place her ad on flirtomatic.com which is a free web site to chat with people.HERE IS THE INFORMATION THAT SHE GAVE ME TO SEND THE MONEY THAT I WAS GOING TO SEND HER: Name is teye martey country ghana zip code 00233 address is laplza 1st road.Now when I found out this I was thankfull that I did the research on her.when she sends me these letters they seem that they are scripted that someone is doing all the writeing on these love letters to me.IM GOING TO TRY TO CATCH HER ON REPORT HER TO THE PROPER PEOPLE SO NO ONE ELSE WILL GET SCAMMED.aNY IDEAS ON HOW I CAH PUT THIS PERSON AWAY FOR A LONG TIME FOR SCAMMING.I still have here email address its at
[email protected] hit here up and you will see what kind of b.s letters that she sends. I don't believe her anymore SHE IS A SCAM ARTIST JUST LOOKING FOR A QUICK BUCK.sHE ADMITTED THAT IT WAS HER PICTURE ON THIS VIDEO.Thats the answer I wanted to hear.
Fr_Chuck
Jan 3, 2012, 09:36 AM
You move on with your life, and have no more contact with her.
There is nothing legal you can do, this type of activity is allowed in their nation, in fact most of it is ran and operated by large crime groups who may even control parts of the police and local governments.
mralabanza2012
Jan 3, 2012, 01:21 PM
I AM CUTTING ALL TIES WITH THIS PERSON. Thank you for your input and information. Really thank you without your input and information I would have made a huge mistake on sending her that money.once again thank you. You have just saved me 280.oo
Fr_Chuck
Jan 3, 2012, 02:44 PM
We all lose money on some things, I have lost more than that on a bad "real life" date before. Many guys lose that much on a night at the strip club, and so on.
We live and learn, when matters of the heart are involved we often don't make smart choices
gil123
Jan 3, 2012, 05:01 PM
I know most of these women in Ghana are scammers be better find one locally or some personal referral to a women abroad and not talking just ghana. In the beginning they all show themselves on cam then after that is impossible to get them on cam. The first women say her computer broke or the café does not allow cam to I have to pay my internet connection at my home. THe second one say her computer broke also and she has to get a new one to I have to go to my friends house to use computer but still can not go on cam and always refuse to go on. For this simple task they can not show themselves and THeY MAKE IT A VERY BIG ISSUE.I going to play there game just to play there game. I tried to call the first one to see if she going to pick up the phone she never did so I got a skype account and my phone number is different and she pick it up but I did not say anything... so I assume she still scamming... but all looking for some money down the road whether it be 30.00 to 200.00 it adds up especially if they have many victims... when I sent money it usually sent through Western union with a password to to receive it but better to have ID and another way of identification...
gil123
Jan 3, 2012, 06:17 PM
Does anyone know about the K1 fiancée visa requirement for a women to come to you to usa... I check the usembassy website but seem there is a conflict with one of the members requirements... I am not talking about just Ghana... My friend did this awhile back ago to get her finacee from the Philippines... would like to know some members input
odinn7
Jan 3, 2012, 07:42 PM
would like to know some members input
Honestly? You're playing with fire.
It seems we helped to convince you the first time around and now you keep dipping your hands into this in one way or another. You should just give it up entirely and try meeting someone locally.
wetstone
Jul 8, 2012, 06:24 AM
99% of these are scams. BTW why would you want to marry someone you've never met in real life?
Hey expert prove that it's a scam an have you been to ghana an have you facts an judge all in ghana you don't know so put your money were your mouth an sir I'm married to a ghanian woman an she says your full of crap thanks
wetstone
Jul 8, 2012, 06:32 AM
I think, and I know, that a lot of times scammers will get you to go to them and take your money that way. It's not uncommon for the scammers to get nasty and rob you if they think they can get it out of you that way.
Is she for real? I don't know for sure but I would say chances are that she is not. Would I go there to find out? No way.
Another expert that has no facts or knowledge of ghana an it people just assuming I have lived there so be careful with assuming
NeedKarma
Jul 8, 2012, 08:51 AM
hey expert prove that its a scam an have u been to ghana an have u facts an judge all in ghana u dont know so put your money were your mouth an sir im married to a ghanian woman an she says ur full of crap thanks
Ok. Post your marriage certificate here.
Curlyben
Jul 8, 2012, 09:32 AM
99% of these are scams. BTW why would you want to marry someone you've never met in real life?
Hey expert prove that it's a scam an have you been to ghana an have you facts an judge all in ghana you don't know so put your money were your mouth an sir I'm married to a ghanian woman an she says your full of crap thanks
Seriously this is one of the most highly documented internet scams, along with the Advanced Fee Frauds, or 419 Scams..
If you have been using the internet for even a few months you will soon run across this type of activity.
In the years I have been online I would be married several dozen times as well as being a multi-trillianaire all thanks to relatives I didn't know I had..
Fr_Chuck
Jul 8, 2012, 09:50 AM
Even the Ghana government posts it on their web site. There are great people in Ghana, I have visited local people here in Atlanta at churches, the man who works on my cars is from Ghana ( I think he is here illegally but that is another story)
And if you know someone there and they arrange a meeting , yes long distance marriage do work. But out of 10,000 ads for marriage only 2 or 3 will be real from Ghana or even many other places. Same as men on dating sites about 1/4 it is estimated are married or living with someone and just looking for sex.
It is easy to tell when it is a scam, if they ask for more than 300 to400 dollars for a visa and passport, If they tell you they have to have money in the bank to get out of the country.
And yes I have traveled there and got to see a couple of the "boiler" rooms where all of this dating fraud happens, they are actually very proud of their businesses. And also love to let you meet the 60 year old grandma with no teeth that is texting she is a 18 year old college student. Or the 50 year old man with a high pitched voice who is a 30 year old women on the telephone.
They do of course employ some really pretty girls to do the video cams, but that is why normally ( and a real sign) it is not their cam, so they can only do the cam every now and then, not every day.
Also you watch in the emails for writing changes, since their employees take shifts and different people will answer you on different days.
Why would you say they would show me this, first they have police paid off, so they are not going to be arrested, local people love them since it creates a lot of jobs. Many of the people view Americans and people from Europe as all being rich and taking some of their money is sort of justified .
Also since it is such a famous scam, been on TV, the nations warn about it on their own visa web sites. You would think no one would fall for it, But we get people here all the time, we prove to them it is a fake and they still will not believe.
ScottGem
Jul 8, 2012, 11:14 AM
hey expert prove that its a scam an have u been to ghana an have u facts an judge all in ghana u dont know so put your money were your mouth an sir im married to a ghanian woman an she says ur full of crap thanks
We cannot prove the OP's particular situation is a scam. But the fact is, as noted, this is a well known and well documented scam. We have had many more people report here that they were scammed than ones reporting they lived happily ever after.
So is anyone is "full of crap" it is your wife. Again, she may be an exception but the reality it that it is the other responders who have the facts. All you have is one personal experience.