CavaCava
Nov 13, 2011, 06:53 PM
I've been seeing a guy for a year and a half and we are very much in love, we got engaged recently and I moved in about three months ago. We get on very well and are very happy but there is a fly in the ointment - his ex wife.
They divorced six years ago - he left her for someone else, the relationship didn't last but they have been good friends since then. They have a son together and have stayed friends since the split, which is good and I see that as positive. My boyfriend told her about me about 8 months ago and since then it has been like a war of attrition. He did warn me it would be dreadful and he was dreading telling her. She hasn't disappointed - she has been dreadful, constantly complaining that he has no time for her any more and he has become a bad friend, she uses emotional blackmail against him and guilt trips, nasty texts and phone calls when she knows we are together and she actively competes with me for his time and attention. She insists that they do social activities regularly, just the two of them, or she gets very nasty with him. In the last eight months he has been on two or three overnight social trips with her (staying in the same hotel room) and accompanied her as her "plus one" to weddings, christenings and family parties.
He has had evenings out for meals and drinks and been to a few parties with her too. She texts him constantly and they talk on the phone every day at least once, often more so. Obviously since I have moved in I have raised my concerns over what I see as an inappropriately involved relationship, and he has reacted by trying to gently stop the majority of these activities and be more firm with her over her constant texting and demanding (and sometimes rather nasty) behavior.
She has not reacted to this well, she has involved their son in the manipulation to try and get him to spend time with her and this culminated in a recent very big argument where he very firmly told her that he was not going to play these games any more. Since then she has been super nice to him at all times and to me. My own hunch was that she is trying a new tactic to get to spend time with him. Sure enough after a week of sweet behavior she has invited him to take her to a concert (not including me), going away again overnight and he has said yes, as "she has been so good - he doesn't want to rock the boat".
I swallowed that and thought OK fair enough, but tonight she has invited him out for lunch next week (not including me) to discuss Christmas arrangements with their son, this is already arranged so I see no need for it, and I am a little hurt to have been excluded from her invitation again, but again he has said yes, he says because she is toeing the line these days and he doesn't want the nastiness to start again. I feel that my hunch is right and she is doing a charm offensive to get to spend time with him, just the two of them - my b/f says give her a break she's trying.
He is worried about his son being dragged into her behavior and having seen this at first hand I do understand. However, I just feel very uneasy about him spending time alone with her at social events like that. I don't feel threatened by her sexually at all so its not that, and I do think its positive to stay friends - but what are the acceptable boundaries in these cases? Am I justified in feeling that this insistence on doing social things just the two of them is weird?(it's all initiated by her to be fair to him). It makes me feel very jealous and uncomfortable. I don't have a problem at all with them being friends and having a good relationship for the sake of the son, but I don't think its appropriate to do these social things together with me excluded. Am I right or wrong?
They divorced six years ago - he left her for someone else, the relationship didn't last but they have been good friends since then. They have a son together and have stayed friends since the split, which is good and I see that as positive. My boyfriend told her about me about 8 months ago and since then it has been like a war of attrition. He did warn me it would be dreadful and he was dreading telling her. She hasn't disappointed - she has been dreadful, constantly complaining that he has no time for her any more and he has become a bad friend, she uses emotional blackmail against him and guilt trips, nasty texts and phone calls when she knows we are together and she actively competes with me for his time and attention. She insists that they do social activities regularly, just the two of them, or she gets very nasty with him. In the last eight months he has been on two or three overnight social trips with her (staying in the same hotel room) and accompanied her as her "plus one" to weddings, christenings and family parties.
He has had evenings out for meals and drinks and been to a few parties with her too. She texts him constantly and they talk on the phone every day at least once, often more so. Obviously since I have moved in I have raised my concerns over what I see as an inappropriately involved relationship, and he has reacted by trying to gently stop the majority of these activities and be more firm with her over her constant texting and demanding (and sometimes rather nasty) behavior.
She has not reacted to this well, she has involved their son in the manipulation to try and get him to spend time with her and this culminated in a recent very big argument where he very firmly told her that he was not going to play these games any more. Since then she has been super nice to him at all times and to me. My own hunch was that she is trying a new tactic to get to spend time with him. Sure enough after a week of sweet behavior she has invited him to take her to a concert (not including me), going away again overnight and he has said yes, as "she has been so good - he doesn't want to rock the boat".
I swallowed that and thought OK fair enough, but tonight she has invited him out for lunch next week (not including me) to discuss Christmas arrangements with their son, this is already arranged so I see no need for it, and I am a little hurt to have been excluded from her invitation again, but again he has said yes, he says because she is toeing the line these days and he doesn't want the nastiness to start again. I feel that my hunch is right and she is doing a charm offensive to get to spend time with him, just the two of them - my b/f says give her a break she's trying.
He is worried about his son being dragged into her behavior and having seen this at first hand I do understand. However, I just feel very uneasy about him spending time alone with her at social events like that. I don't feel threatened by her sexually at all so its not that, and I do think its positive to stay friends - but what are the acceptable boundaries in these cases? Am I justified in feeling that this insistence on doing social things just the two of them is weird?(it's all initiated by her to be fair to him). It makes me feel very jealous and uncomfortable. I don't have a problem at all with them being friends and having a good relationship for the sake of the son, but I don't think its appropriate to do these social things together with me excluded. Am I right or wrong?