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worthbeads
Feb 6, 2007, 09:18 PM
Just a deep thinking question. Does Zero exist? Why or why not?

maebarr
Feb 6, 2007, 09:37 PM
Just a deep thinking question. Does Zero exist? Why or why not?
Live for the moment. If you are there physically, and not mentally, or vice versa, then the person or persons you are with are not enjoying the full benefit of who you are, and you also are not enjoying who you are and what you have to offer. So I ask you, What is the point. Just go home. And be alone, then you can just enjoy yourself, and no one will miss you, because you weren't there to start with. Confused yet? LOL

worthbeads
Feb 7, 2007, 04:10 PM
... What the hell are you talking about?!

Allheart
Feb 7, 2007, 04:11 PM
I feel like such a 0... I don't get it.:confused:

worthbeads
Feb 7, 2007, 04:12 PM
Oh, I get it. maebarr, you are looking at my signature. Ignore it. It's just something fun that appears whenever I type. It's not part of the question.

Allheart
Feb 7, 2007, 04:13 PM
Oooooooooooooooh I get it now. Thanks

Curlyben
Feb 7, 2007, 04:24 PM
Zero is the absence of number like dark is the absence of light.

Either that or you'll find it between I and P ;)

worthbeads
Feb 7, 2007, 06:05 PM
So does it exists or not?

J_9
Feb 7, 2007, 06:07 PM
Yes, it exists, it is the number between a positive and a negative! :D

DID I WIN? OH PLEASE DID I WIN?

What did I win?:confused:

valinors_sorrow
Feb 7, 2007, 06:43 PM
Carefully touch the tip of your index finger to the tip of your thumb. Ignoring all the other fingers, that is a zero and it exists quite well at the end of each of our arms too! Without it, cavemen (and cavewomen) would have turned out to be gas in some other unimaginable creature's car by now.

Think about THAT if you want some deep thinking! :eek: LOL

worthbeads
Feb 7, 2007, 07:09 PM
Yeah, but zero is nothing, so it doesn't exist.

valinors_sorrow
Feb 7, 2007, 08:03 PM
Yeah, but zero is nothing, so it doesn't exist.
That's right in there with if infinity isn't real, then when it ends what's on the other side?

These are more like mobias strips of thinking. Let's swim to the really deep end and wonder how many zeros are printed (on anything) in the entire world -- that's got to be a whole lot of nothing, eh?? :D

worthbeads
Feb 7, 2007, 09:07 PM
Here's something that will make you think. 1/infinity (one over infinity or one divided by infinity) equals 0! Strange, isn't it?

valinors_sorrow
Feb 8, 2007, 06:31 AM
Here's something that will make you think. 1/infinity (one over infinity or one divided by infinity) equals 0! Strange, isn't it?
LOL Yes indeedy, some parts of math simply defy logic, I think! :eek:

Curlyben
Feb 8, 2007, 06:36 AM
Here's something that will make you think. 1/infinity (one over infinity or one divided by infinity) equals 0! Strange, isn't it?

This isn't exactly true.
The number is so small that it is impossible to comprehend.
As Infinity is the largest possible number so 1/infinity is the smallest possible.

JoeCanada76
Feb 8, 2007, 06:40 AM
It is like there is no beginning and no end. It has always been. 0 represents everything that is, was and will be. It is always continuous.

valinors_sorrow
Feb 8, 2007, 06:41 AM
This isn't exactly true.
The number is so small that it is impossible to comprehend.
As Infinity is the largest possible number so 1/infinity is the smallest possible.
OMG this is making my head hurt LOL (okay, maybe it's the dang cold I caught)
But not only is it a zero but now it's the littlest zero too??
:confused: no no nooooooooooooooooo! (runs screaming from the room)

JoeCanada76
Feb 8, 2007, 06:42 AM
Worthbeads, It does exist.

worthbeads
Feb 10, 2007, 12:29 PM
Well, I'll have to agree, but only on paper. In theory there is 0, but maybe not in the real world.

Now here's a real teaser. What about negative numbers? Can you have -3 apples?

Curlyben
Feb 10, 2007, 12:46 PM
Negative numbers are Definitely for imaginary situations.
It is impossible to have less than nothing of a physical thing, and before you start this also applies to more than 100% of a real thing.

J_9
Feb 10, 2007, 12:51 PM
Can you have -3 apples?

No, but the tree you picked them from can!!

valinors_sorrow
Feb 10, 2007, 01:09 PM
... and before you start this also applies to more than 100% of a real thing.
Wait a minute

@#$%#@%#@&

Wait just a gull derned minute now... how can you have "more than 100% of some real thing???"

(faints)

Curlyben
Feb 10, 2007, 01:17 PM
Val, read the whole post in context ;)

valinors_sorrow
Feb 10, 2007, 01:20 PM
Oh LOL

Doh (speed reading coupled with mind lag)

Its impossible too... :rolleyes:

And I confess my maths/english interface doesn't work well either!

worthbeads
Feb 10, 2007, 01:25 PM
No, but the tree you picked them from can!!!

No, the least amount of apples it can have is zero.:D

valinors_sorrow
Feb 10, 2007, 01:40 PM
I just have a thing about numbers that makes a part of my brain scramble and then reach out, rearranging my eyeballs. On the bad days, I have to repeat the phone number over and over (to myself, yesssss LOL) as I cross the room least, with one tiny interruption, I forget it. And I'm talking about my own home number here folks. :eek: LOL I think of it as numbers dyslexic or something along those lines?

JoeCanada76
Feb 10, 2007, 05:07 PM
No such thing a minus...

worthbeads
Feb 11, 2007, 03:13 PM
What about 4-3=1 (four minus three equals one)? :D

JoeCanada76
Feb 11, 2007, 03:18 PM
You got me there! That is a different scenario then mentioned before.

Joe

valinors_sorrow
Feb 11, 2007, 03:28 PM
No such thing a minus.............
I don't know Joe... seems like it exists right here on my keyboard, right next to the plus and equal -!

See, I can make lots of them - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - and yes it's the twin of hyphen, I believe?

ordinaryguy
Feb 11, 2007, 03:30 PM
These are concepts that the Greek mathematicians thought about and settled a few thousand years ago, so don't congratulate yourselves too much for your deep original thinking.

worthbeads
Feb 11, 2007, 03:45 PM
First of all, I never said I was the original person to think of these questions.

Second, grow a sense of humor.

JoeCanada76
Feb 11, 2007, 04:33 PM
Sense of humour is good to have. It makes for a happier healthier self. Lol

excon
Feb 12, 2007, 08:43 AM
Hello worth:

Zero exists. I know because I'm getting zero.

excon

valinors_sorrow
Feb 12, 2007, 08:58 AM
Hello worth:

Zero exists. I know because I'm getting zero.

excon
Better to be getting zero than to be getting minus! :D