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angel302
Oct 12, 2011, 01:10 AM
I have been having what my grandnmother on my dad side called tokens of death since I was a child. Also when I was around 11 years old I learned my mothers side of the family had tokens of death. All I know is when someone to me or even just lives nearby I have them.Now days I have them before someone gets hurt or sick as well 'BUT MOSTLY DEATH FOLLOWS'
What makes this happen,and or causes this? Does this run in your family? Will it get stronger or fade away? Now 2 weeks ago I had a dream of my dead grandparents which ouned the house which I am living in,and after my dream my hearing has got stronger. The day I had the dream my hearing was real strong! Does this have anything too do with me having these tokens of death as my grandmother called them... just like to know more about this,and what's going on with me.. please help
JudyKayTee
Oct 12, 2011, 08:10 AM
What are tokens of death?
angel302
Oct 12, 2011, 08:10 PM
Well, signs,warnings of something bad soon to happen, kind of like <premissions> of death not sure how to spell it " But something like that Anyway something bad most of the time death is the outcome.
hauntinghelper
Oct 13, 2011, 06:59 PM
This is a spirit that causes these sensations... and very likely what causes the deaths and sicknesses. If we could just see beyond the veil... we'd be amazed at how much in our world is really spirit driven. Yes, this type of thing does run in families... especially among the women of the family. But again it is simply an entity that is doing this... the same entity that appears to have been in your family for awhile. I might suggest it's strength may depend on how much attention you give it. If this is something you begin to actually seek out and develop I have no doubt it will become very strong.
angel302
Oct 14, 2011, 01:12 AM
Hey hauntinghelp, thanks for reply. Just wanted to mention that I understand what you are saying "But don't really get it "Because like when my great grandmother passed she was sick then in the hospital at age 96 years
And while in hospital under going surgery which was very unlikely she would make it My mother her sons dauther and her sons wife
Were looking out the window which was next to her home because they lived next door,and they both saw a nurse dressed in white with case in her hand walking to my grandfarthers garage which was my dying grandmothers son
Anyway then she disappeared 10 minutes after that they got a call she had past away.
Also my other grandermother was old sick in hospital,and 15 minutes before they got a call that she had died They saw large white wings in the window then felt the covers being pulled up arounf thir neck as if to keep them warm. Before they got the call she had past. If I hear an owl hoot I'm my yard someone dies. Only had that happen wice,and if I hear the owl in my yard its someone very close to me. 2 other times near my home,and 2 doors dowm his wife died but also had been sick long time... then in between my home and ally and my cat died,and I think the owl killed her as she never went out but did that morning around 5 because we heard this owl very loud,and strange out,and she ran off looking for the sound,and next day someone smelled something up under the motor in car,and she never came home.I have many many things that I do not understand. Do u still feel this is a spirit causing these feelings etc? I mean a lot of these people were already sick and some very old.I have very strong senses,and have since I was little.
hauntinghelper
Oct 15, 2011, 07:25 AM
Yes, I am very sure it is a spirit that is causing these sensations in you and even the sicknesses of others. That is how deceptive they are. They do not know the future... the are just really good at making it look like they do. For example... I knew a guy who had a demonic experience several years ago. It came to him in a dream and was telling him how powerful he was. He said that we knew the future and could tell him what his best friend would wear to school tomorrow. Sure enough, the friend wore some new clothes the next day that this man had never even seen before that matched exactly what was told to him by this spirit. People don't really realize that this same spirit can have influence over the man's friend to the point of showing him what to wear. It's not an issue of them having knowledge of what is to come... it is an issue of them having influence in different people's lives. Does that make sense.
You mentioned that this seems to run in your family. Is there also a history of involvement in the occult... for example witchcraft, divination, alternative religions, séances... that type of thing?
angel302
Oct 18, 2011, 01:55 AM
Hauntinghelper, No never heard about that kind of stuff in our family. I was raised to beleave there is a god in which I do beleave. Just to mention I had been wanting to write a book on paranormal awhile back and started
Taking pictures with many orbs so to speak,and recording some evps which I got the ideal because of the past with tokens of death,and because of having dreams of people who have past on like the one I had about 3 to 4 weeks ago I had one with some young guy whom I never saw before in my living room telling me he had just died,and I told him this is my grandmothers home but she had passed on,and he said he speaks with her and she always asks about me,and I told him to tell her I love her,and he said he would,and then he disappeared,and I walked into my kichen,and turned around to see my grandfarther walking into my kichen,and he was transparent somewhat,and looked really sad,and then my grandmother walked in,and put her arm around him,and said something to me but I can't remember what she said. Anyway they to vanished,and then I went looking for them,and walked down to my corner,and saw someone having like a celabration of life,and saw my grandparents there thinking why were they there "because they don't even know them and as I started to walk in the yard there they all vasished. Anyway right after that any sound was much louder then before ,and that lasted 2 days. I don't know things just getting really crazy. Also 2 weeks ago me and boyfriend was sitting in living room,and all of the sudden blasted out NEY OH! My boyfriend said what was that I heard that before,and I said yes you did that is the song on the movie bettlejuice,and he said yeah that was it So I went into the room thinking it was my son which was away,and that he was playing around and came in his bedroom window,and turned TV oncause bettlejuice was playing that week on TV. Anyway I went in there to see no one,and went back told boyfriend strange no one is here,and then sat down,and noticed a shadow moving in my hallway,and I could feel it,and then my dog jumped up starring at the hallway with tail wagging,and head moving side to side then I saw the shadow move toward bedroom,and I felt it leave,and my dog laid back down. Again thinking my son came back,and was kidding around so I went in room to check again,and no one was here but me and bill so I sat down and phone rang and it was my son.. it was just to creepy. Just feels like something's going on with me,here that I just can't explain. Sorry long story just you seem to know a little about this kind of stuff,and I am very open mined so to speak.love to hear about what you think. Also not been sleeping to good lately.
hauntinghelper
Oct 18, 2011, 04:00 PM
Yes, I still believe this is a spiritual manifestation through you. At the very least it could be trying to get you to "develop" these things... a path that usually leads straight into the occult practices. You see, you're all ready wanting to write a book on the paranormal, a subject you still do not know much about. It is wanting you to delve more deeply into spiritual matters that typically should not be messed with. Do you see the deceit behind all this now? It is very slight but over time you'll look back and think "How on earth did I get this far into this stuff?" This is why even when a "gift" or something spiritual seems harmless... I try to look at the big picture and it doesn't take long to see the deception behind it. These are not "gifts" as one would think in a good sense... and they are certainly not of God. What is the religious background of yourself and your family... beyond the "we believe in God". Did you actively attend a church or anything like that?
angel302
Oct 18, 2011, 11:35 PM
Yes I use 2 attend church sometimes twice a week. My mother whom I haven't seen in years is christain,and lives by the holly book,and her brother from seaford Delaware id Rev.roland tice which also has a son who is rev as well. I always heard there were parts in the bible that mention gifts. This in a way of its own is a gift that I know and have seen to be true that when a person loses something say a limb or ability to ear in one ear that he or she will have something stronger like a friends son had no canal in her ear,and yet she could hear a train miles away just in her one ear,and another person lost limb but other side of them became much stronger etc... I know this isn't a gift of the ability of knowing forehand but to me it is still a gift of sort. But I agree that something could have got into my home being I have been opening my doors. I am not even sure if your love ones can visit you maybe it is just the devil so to speak making you think that it is someone other. Matybe the kind acts is for the devil to pull everyone by making them beleave that day can see,talk,etc... to the people they love and miss because they want that so badly. I am very open mined I research. Just saying maybe the devil is all any of it really is. I got evp one other time that I didn't care for much,and I Said hello my name is Debbie,and asked if there was anythink I could do for u,and when I played it back I heard a deep mans voice say Debbie! Help me open the door,and that was over a year ago as I stopped for awhile was busy to many things on my mine to be able to sit and write a book.
hauntinghelper
Oct 21, 2011, 02:40 PM
Yes, the bible does speak of gifts. But they are not generic and they definitely have there place. Many people, in fact MOST people confuse the Gifts of the Holy Spirit with the Ministries of the Holy Spirit and other offices in the church body. Some people will say they have the gift of kindness, of the gift of generosity... while these are great characteristics to have... what they are saying is very unbiblical. There are 9 Gifts the Holy Spirit gives to men as He wills. Some have one, some can have more than one function in their lives. The Gifts are given ONLY to born again Christians and are as follows: The Gift of the Word of Knowledge, Word of Wisodom, Faith, the GiftS of Healing, the Working of Miracles, Prophecy, Discernment of Spirits, Speaking in tongues and lastly the Gift of Interpretation of Tongues. Now some of these Gifts are meant simply to edify the Church body and others are for signs to unbelievers... however ALL point directly to the glory of God and Jesus Christ through whom they are given. Now do not be fooled and you touched briefly on this in your response... the devil can counterfeit these gifts. The devil is a master of deceit and lies and his only goal is to drag you to Hell WITH him. That's right, he doesn't rule Hell... he himself is GOING there. Like you said yourself, you have opened some doors... and it is going to take some effort on your part to close them. You say you used to go to church twice a week? What happened that you have fallen away and resorted to spiritism?