I want to know how many different types of christianity there are, and what they do. If you are reading this and you are a christian, what is the name of your group? And how do you know you are the right group? Do your prayers get answered and if so, how?
I am a christian, but I feel discouraged by the fact that there are so many different groups and they all believe themselves to be right. I'm not sure whether we just believe what we were brought up to believe or if we actually believe it ourselves. I'm wondering if I only believe because this is all I know, or if this is actually the right way.
Another question I would like to ask is, how did you come across your group, were you brought up in it or did you find it some other way?

Christian is somebody that believes that Jesus Christ is lord. Anybody who believe in Jesus Christ is a Christian.

Now there are different denominations that belong to the same belief held by the bible. For example, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Protestant just to mention a few.

If you mean what denomination I was brought up in and what church I go to when I do go, would be the Roman Catholic Church.

It does not matter whether I am in the right group or not. I have my personal belief in God. I have my own thoughts and feelings about God. I feel more comfortable in a Catholic church because I was brought up in one but I also used to go to a baptist church as well. Each of us have our own personal relationships with God and I personally feel that every one has its positives and negatives. We have to find the one that closely matches our feelings and thoughts and like minded individuals that make up a certain church. My prayers are answered all the time. Not once did I never have a prayer that was not answered. We need to always remember when we pray to God that we put all our trust in him and know that we will be taken care of. That he knows what is best for us and for him to always do things at his will. I prayed for a job, a wife, a child. To have a family to have health. You know what, I have all those things and without God none of those things would have been possible. My parents were not strict with me about religion, but I have always had a strong belief and I always read the bible even at the age of 10 on my own. Prayed daily on my own. This was always in me, and it was not because of what I was told to believe or brought up to believe it was something that was always in me. Why does there have to be an absolute right way or wrong way?

Joe

Who decides what is the "right group" in this? Everyone has their pesonal beliefs as reflected by the Church they attend. But we all have the belief in Jesus and His teachings.
So there is only one type of Christianity - I do not know of three or four or more. But there are a plethora of churches and there are many versions of the Holy Bible. Yes there are some churches who say they are the only one who is right and true. I tend to disbelieve that part of theology but do believe we are all Universal in believing Jesus is Lord.

Hey, I am a non-denominational Christian. Simply said, stays generally teaching the trinity and the gospels and the rest of the Bible. Lots of modern singing, too. Anybody who teaches the trinity and the gospels and believes the Bible is on the right track in my book.

I know I am on the right track because of a miracle I once had. I was in a very bad marriage. My husband abused me mentally and physically, on a daily basis. I was considering leaving, but I was young and scared. I was also the first in the family to talk about divorce.

I went to see a pastor to counsel about this situation. When I entered the room, a thought came to me. It was, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you", which I remembered as a Bible verse, but only dismissed it as a thought.

Well, I was in such a state at that time in my life, that my mother was in constant prayer for me. She called when I got home that day and told me God sent a word for her whilst in prayer for me. It was the same verse at the very same time I received it.

It took nine years for that promise made to me that day, by God, to be fulfilled. I am now living a blessed life. I had been living in sin prior to the bad marriage, and it did end in divorce. God restored me and gave me a husband that all women dream of. I followed his instruction in the verse, and He fulfilled His promise.

Everyone has blessings and miracles to help them see that they are on the right track. If you are a Christian, then reflect upon these things and it will all be illuminated. Blessings to you and yours.

I was raised by atheist parents, but never bought into it as a kid. After a lot of reading and well church hopping, I joined the Catholic Church in my late thirties and then dropped out later mostly for the very reason you mention here. I have found a means to enlarge my spirituality without necessarily being a part of any group. Had I felt a need for a group, I might have sought out the Unitarians next. I claim to be spiritual without being of any denomination. I hope that offers an interesting perspective.

I think that there are many people who worship in various ways in types of services that makes them happier than others, but I think we are all one body ( even if some parts of that body don't like the other parts)

We all believe in Christ as the Son of God and believe in him for our savation. The actual method of worship while perhaps important to us as men with our own selfish desires, it is just the love of Christ that is the one founding belief among all Christians

So while some may be baptist, methodist, lutheran and others,

And you know I bet God is a non denomination also, ( and he was a Jew)

For myself, I am part of a independent Catholic Order.

Thank you for all your answers, it is very interesting and puts things in a different perspective. Some are only brought up to see things the way their parents saw them, so I'm glad for some other views.. although most of you seem to say "serve the way you think is right and the way that feels most comfortable for you" I am not quite sure I agree with that, but I cannot doubt that miracles do happen. Why and how are two big questions

thankyou for all your answers, it is very interesting and puts things in a different perspective. Some are only brought up to see things the way their parents saw them, so i'm glad for some other views..although most of you seem to say "serve the way you think is right and the way that feels most comfortable for you" i am not quite sure i agree with that, but i cannot doubt that miracles do happen. Why and how are two big questions
To add part two to what I posted: you asked about praying and I don't pray anymore. I gave that up along the way as it was unavoidably hitting me like me attemtping to tell God what to do no matter what form I put it in. Instead I believe (and now live) so that I am instead listening, always listening and learning how God wants me to be. As for miracles, while I have seen some extremely surprising things in my time, nothing I have seen would fit the term miracle but I trust in some vague way that they do happen. Often though what I do see is what one person calls a miracle, I call someone who is waking up like I did. Some of those are pretty sudden and I can see how it feels miraculous to them.

Hi Val, it is so nice to see you again. Please for a moment, consider that you know me and what I posted earlier on this subject is absolute truth, which it is, but you cannot know that. But if for a moment you put yourself in the place of believeing me, how then can that experience be anything but a miracle? Also, it happened in a biblical way. With not just prophecy, but confirmation which is absolutely necessary else ANYONE could have told me about the scriptures. Since I was the person that was given it, it leaves no doubts for me. I cannot NOT believe after that.

My sister, who is not a Christian, says I am the most changed person she has ever met. She is always marvelling at my lack of nievetee and at my logic when it comes to situations, and my ability to always have all situations turn out better for me. This is true even when I have to fight for something... which is rare thankfully. The thing is, I know I have been extremely blessed. I know my thinking is a product of that blessing. To look at the beginning of my life and my lack of self confidence, you would never dream I am the same person. I had few friends, and now people gravitate toward me... and the love in my life is overwhelming.

The fact is, people do not recognize blessings and miracles on a regular basis. I really think, if they did, the blessings wouild flow in abundance and people, in general, would complain a lot less and work with what they have so much more. By the way, this is not directed at you... I am absolutely generalizing.

Anyway, I know you say you trust in a vague way that miracles happen. I just want to say, from a person who has expereinced them... they do happen.

Have a wonderful day as you are a very sweet person, from your posts. (smile)

Thank you Sexybeasty, that was very interesting, I believe you are telling your truth too and I appreciate your take on me as well.

As you heard, I don't claim miracles don't exist. I have given this topic much thought. People could probably say the transformation in me is a miracle but here is how I know it: 10% my doing, 50% others helping and 90% God's doing and yes LOL I know that math doesn't add up. What I have learned is profound but its not a miracle, its just "how the world works" because of how the creator created it.

My 10% was critical, I learned without that NOTHING (and I do mean nothing) would have taken place. So I am in the mix.

The 50% of others is important and I needed to learn how to avail myself of that bigtime. It was not easy at first but it became easier and easier. On some level I had to trust God (90%) let the help help or it wasn't going to help. 10 + 50 = only 60.

And the 90% is God's because when I sought his help, he sent me the 50%ers. But he isn't about to cram it down my throat -- free will and all -- so its not 100%. Notice that it takes my 10 + his 90 = 100 here, okay? Now before you say that leaves out the 50%, I would remind you that part of my 10 and part of God's 90 is to trust the 50 he sent. And more significantly this kind of help is available ALL the time to EVERYONE. So is that a miracle or just an incredibly amazingly unbelievably marvelous way in which the world is made?

My world in some ways is either all miracles or none, as Einstein eluded to. Just because I tend to see it as not a miracle doesn't mean it's a bad thing, it means I believe its possible for EVERYONE when the right mix of percentages and attitudes and actions come together. In regard to these kinds of "miraces" there just isn't anything supernatural about it to me. Or in other words, many people are only 10% away from what may look like a miracle to them. I post here often in the hope that I may get some of them to see that. Maybe that explains it a little better?

Thanks Val, and by the way, I respect your opinion.

By the way, I followed those sites at the end. The first was a looooonnnnngggg post, so I just gave up. The second one, though was a good one. Thanks again.

I want to know how many different types of christianity there are, and what they do. If you are reading this and you are a christian, what is the name of your group? And how do you know you are the right group? Do your prayers get answered and if so, how?
I am a christian, but i feel discouraged by the fact that there are so many different groups and they all believe themselves to be right. I'm not sure whether we just believe what we were brought up to believe or if we actually believe it ourselves. I'm wondering if I only believe because this is all i know, or if this is actually the right way.
Another question i would like to ask is, how did you come across your group, were you brought up in it or did you find it some other way?
There are many different types of Christians in this world. I'm a Baptist Christian. In my church we are very casual and easy-going. We don't have to wear our best clothes or anything like that and have really interesting services. We even get fun days when we go bowling or have pizza lunches right after the service! We also have activities for every age.

I am Baptist. I was raised in the church. I am raising my daughter in the Baptist church as well.
I think we all believe that there is only one true saviour, Jesus Christ, and that He died on the cross for our sins.
Sometimes I think we get caught up in the small differences of religion. For discussion sake, Take Catholics and Baptist
Catholics christen their babies - Baptist Baptize those who have accepted Jesus into their hearts.
Catholics don't have a problem with drinking or smoking or even gambling
Baptist have a problem with all of that.
Catholic priest never marry
Baptist preachers often have a wife and kids.

I remember the first time I met my husbands uncle (who was a lutheran minister) - we were at a birthday party for his wife and when I walked into the house he had a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other. His entire congregation was there. I was a little shocked - because you would never see a baptist preacher like that.

**Disclaimer: Like I said, I am baptist - If I have misrepresented anything about the Catholic church - I apologize! Please don't bite my head off :) **

I want to know how many different types of christianity there are, and what they do. If you are reading this and you are a christian, what is the name of your group? And how do you know you are the right group? Do your prayers get answered and if so, how?
I am a christian, but i feel discouraged by the fact that there are so many different groups and they all believe themselves to be right. I'm not sure whether we just believe what we were brought up to believe or if we actually believe it ourselves. I'm wondering if I only believe because this is all i know, or if this is actually the right way.
Another question i would like to ask is, how did you come across your group, were you brought up in it or did you find it some other way?
There are a lot of people out there that call themselves Christians but don't believe in the whole bible but like the parts that make them feel good with the life they are living like God is Loving and forgiving so they think they are doing OK.

I have been a christian for just 10 years although at first you wouldn't know it, I still sinned and saw no evidence that I was "born again"

I attended a penticostal church for no reason that the guy that witnessed to me went to one.

I saw people falling out in the spirit and talking in togues I thought to myself "what a way to attract attention to yourself"

I don't even know why I went to church.

One day the wife came in after church one Sunday mornin to the store we owned and said you have to go tonight. I wondered what the hell has she been smokin? (She went to morning service I went to evening so one of us could run the store)

I said yea I always go.. my only chance to get out of the store lol.

Well any way there was this evagelist from south africa there as guest speaker he starts into his sermon and after only about 10 minutes ha stopped and said "the holy spirit is here and wants to take over,..and Im not about to get in its way so if you want to get closer to the Lord come forward and we will pray".

So I said to myself "ok i will call your bluff this should be good."

He started praying in togues and standing in front of people holding there hands, and they were dropping like flies.

I looked down the line and said to myself wait till he gets to me cause there is no way that anything this joker can do that will make me fall down... I mean you at least have to believe in this stuff for it to have any effect... right?

Well he gets to me and touches my hands and Im praying... well speaking to the Lord anyway I was praying "well here I am ..do me show me what you got" I know what sounds silly but that was my prayer.

And didn't my legs get wobbly and Im thinking I hear one of the ushers behind me saying "hes going" and I thought no friggin way I have been standing here for a friggin hour its nothing that this joker is doing.. so I leaned forward and locked my knees back to fight it... then I hit the floor and I could not move I tried my hardest to get back up right away.. I mean I don't know why I fell but I couldn't move a muscle I could move my eyes but that's about all,

That's when I knew I was a Born again spirit filled Christian.

I know speak in togues sometimes the Holyspirit takes me for a ride when I do most of the time no. I lay hands on people... thats another story hehe

And the Lord speaks to me when he wants me to do something.

So in answer to your questions how many different types a lot

What is the right one? The one that teaches Jesus as Lord and teaches the whole bible not just some of it.

Prayers get answered ? Yes they do I can say the Lord has always taken care of me.

As for how did I find my group well that's another story I don't go the pentecostal church right now I go to another that the Lord led me too. Ask the lord to open doors to lead you to the church he wants you to go to and close the doors to the others.

Here is a prayer that I pray when I want the Lords help

Jesus I except you as Lord over my life you are my saviour I am saved by grace because of what you did for me on the cross. I ask you Lord to guide me in my life open doors you want me to go through and close those that you don't. And Lord make easy for me to discern the way as you know Im a little dense in that area. I thank tou Lord for all you are doing and will be doing in my life ty Lord In Jesus name Amen

I hope that helps with your walk with the Lord If you want to talk I am here for you ;-)

Simply put... A Christian is one who believes firstly, in God the Father and Creator. That He came to earth in the flesh. God came to Mary a virgin in a vision/dream and instructed her to call this child who would be the Messiah, Jesus. He came to earth, born in a barn and lie in a manger. His purpose- to pay and die for our sins with His own life. If you believe in God's Holy and precious Word, believe in the Birth, Death, Resurrection and Ascention of Jesus to Heaven, who sits at the right hand of God, you are a Christian. Being a Christian is believing in the Jesus Christ our Savior and following the Word of God and the Gospel of Jesus He provided to His diciples to spread around the World. We as true believers of Christ are also diciples and to be ministers of the Holy Word. We should not be ashamed of but boldly speak the gospel "so that no one will perish." Those precious and life-giving Words are in the Holy Bible. There are no divisions among true Christians, different groups, religions, sects, etc. God calls us to fellowship at a Church (definition of Church is "body of believers.") We are to support each other through times of joy and grief and suffering. We are warned not to pervert the Holy word by twisting it, changing it to adapt to how we believe or desire to live our lives. We are warned not to deviate from the Word, but rather when we don't understand it to pray and ask for God to open our minds and hearts to understand His Wisdom. In other words, to "gain His knowledge". We are warned not to take away from or add to His Word, but write His word across our hearts. Prayer is essential to a Christian's life in order to remain in touch/connected with our Father... whether sitting in your car at a light or saying grace before taking a morsel in your mouth. Give thanks for everything, Heaven and a crown awaits those who abide and obey. The only way to the Heavenly Father is through His Son, Jesus Christ.

May God bless those who are in search of truth and righteousness and apply the Word and Laws of the Holy Father to their lives. "Seek and she shall find; knock and the door shall be opened". Reach out to Him.

We are all born into a sinful world and are created with a sinful nature. I have to agree with a posting I reviewed on this site- I've known God from a very young age. Getting to know God is a journey. If I may share one word of importance- it would be to parents who are raising children... believe, give your life, accept the life by living it... actions speak louder than words and your children while they might stray, will have the ingredients and the knowledge where to go when they have deviated from the truth. Parents are instructed to impart and teach His wisdom to our children and "when they grow old, they shall not depart from it." Many believe that Baptism by Immersion is not necessary. While it does not prevent you from entering Heaven or a requirement to enter, (you will be judged for not following through). Jesus was Baptized in the River Jordan by John The Baptist. We are called to obey this command and upon our acceptance, we choose to live a life that honors, magnifies and glorifies our Heavenly Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. Christianity is not complicated- it is not full of icons, idols but simply His Word and learning the Word will teach the true desires of His heart and what He desires for our lives. YOU CAN HAVE A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD- no intermediators are necessary. YOU CAN HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD simply by studying and applying His Word.

May God's garden be filled daily with a precious new blossom! May the Lord use me as an instrument of peace and to share the Good news! Thank you God for the opportunity to serve you, in Jesus name I pray.

I want to know how many different types of christianity there are, and what they do. If you are reading this and you are a christian, what is the name of your group? And how do you know you are the right group? Do your prayers get answered and if so, how?
I am a christian, but i feel discouraged by the fact that there are so many different groups and they all believe themselves to be right. I'm not sure whether we just believe what we were brought up to believe or if we actually believe it ourselves. I'm wondering if I only believe because this is all i know, or if this is actually the right way.
Another question i would like to ask is, how did you come across your group, were you brought up in it or did you find it some other way?

I just want to answer your questions to the best of my ability. This is a task that I take seriously and one that I hope to fulfil responsibly.

I am currently a member of the Missouri Synod Lutheran denomination. I have been employed in all aspects of church music for over 36 years. These have involved the following denomination (as well as some that may have slipped from my mind right now), Presbyterian Church U.S.A, United Presbyterian Church, Catholic Church, Unitarian Church, Various Baptist denomination, United Methodist Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Church of Christ, Scientist, United Church of Christ, Disciples of Christ and the Episcopal Church.

For me, out of all these denominations with which I have been involved, I found that the beliefs of the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church spoke to my heart the most truthfully. So, I decided to join that denomination. I know that I am in the right group there because it is the one that mostly fits the choices in my beliefs that I have come to believe and what I perceive in my walk with Christ to be the truth.

I grew up in the Disciple of Christ denomination and am still also a member of the church where I grew up. But, that is for personal and family reasons.

The correct way to be a Christian is spelled out in the Holy Bible. For me, I have read and heard many things, and even though I have been tempted to be swayed many different ways, I have always come back to the basic Bible teachings and beliefs.

Also, my prayers always get answered. I live by faith and do not believe there is such a thing as luck. After all, if you have faith and believe that God is guiding your ways, how could there be such a thing as luck?

I just wanted to post again because if you are seeking some answers as to Christianity, you might want to consider becoming involved in one of the many Christian forums that are available on the Web. On the site we are on right now, you are going to get a cross section of basically the beliefs of the world. Not necessarily Christian at all. Being in a Christian community means sharing with others that have the same beliefs that you do. We all need support. You might like to take a look at the following links below.

Christian Forum :: Index (http://www.forums.churchwebstop.com/)

Christian Forums - The Online Christian Chat Forum & Message Board (http://www.christianforums.com/)

http://www.christianforumsite.com/

Christian Forum :: Christian Bible Study :: Christian Blogs :: Christian Discussion - Christianity Board Christian Forum (http://www.christianityboard.com/)

Christian Bulletin Boards - Christian Forums - Worthy Boards (http://www.worthyboards.com/)

Crosswalk Forums (http://forums.crosswalk.com/)

I just want to answer your questions to the best of my ability. This is a task that I take seriously and one that I hope to fulfil responsibly.

I am currently a member of the Missouri Synod Lutheran denomination. I have been employed in all aspects of church music for over 36 years. These have involved the following denomination (as well as some that may have slipped from my mind right now), Presbyterian Church U.S.A, United Presbyterian Church, Catholic Church, Unitarian Church, Various Baptist denomination, United Methodist Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Church of Christ, Scientist, United Church of Christ, Disciples of Christ and the Episcopal Church.

For me, out of all these denominations with which I have been involved, I found that the beliefs of the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church spoke to my heart the most truthfully. So, I decided to join that denomination. I know that I am in the right group there because it is the one that mostly fits the choices in my beliefs that I have come to believe and what I perceive in my walk with Christ to be the truth.

I grew up in the Disciple of Christ denomination and am still also a member of the church where I grew up. But, that is for personal and family reasons.

The correct way to be a Christian is spelled out in the Holy Bible. For me, I have read and heard many things, and even though I have been tempted to be swayed many different ways, I have always come back to the basic Bible teachings and beliefs.

Also, my prayers always get answered. I live by faith and do not believe there is such a thing as luck. Afterall, if you have faith and believe that God is guiding your ways, how could there be such a thing as luck?

I think picking a church that teaches the uncompromised word of God is best. Im just a baby Christian and if I picked a church that I wanted I probably wouldn't be at one.
But knowing after I was "born again" that I should start going to church I didn't know where to go. A good friend told me pick one that teaches the "whole" bible not just the good parts and feel good parts so not to offend but the whole thing.

I was raised a Baptist, but I just prefer to be called a Christ Follower. Whatever you are in your heart is what you are, you can just be a Believer if you want, no religion is better or worse or more right or wrong, in my opinion. But we need all of the different denominations, because God made us all different.

I was raised a Baptist, but I just prefer to be called a Christ Follower. Whatever you are in your heart is what you are, you can just be a Believer if you want, no religion is better or worse or more right or wrong, in my opinion. But we need all of the different denominations, because God made us all different.

Just wondering about "But we need all of the different denominations," part. Some denominations don't believe Jesus was born a virgin birth some don't think he rose again and some think you receive salvation by works,speaking in tongues,healing etc.

John 8:31 says Jesus therefore was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;

32 and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

To Duke of Url- Thank you for the response. I did not say I agree with all of the denominations but I was referring to denominations who believed in Christ as the post was about different types of Christianity. I do not prefer to call myself Baptist, Catholic, Mormon or whatever. I have studied each, and I find value in each one. I consider many different denominations or religions (Wrong Turns).. some of then profess to be a believer in Christ and others do not. Even the ones who say that they believe in Christ, I think that some get caught up in the laws and the rules and get off the main point of Jesus Christ.. But sometime we have to take a wrong turn in order to hit a brick wall... The value I find in this is exactly that.. a religion that eventually does not get you anywhere close to God... And when you get that far off you will be left to rely solely not on your religion, but on Jesus Christ.

To Duke of Url- Thank you for the response. I did not say I agree with all of the denominations but I was refering to denominations who believed in Christ as the post was about different types of Christianity. I do not prefer to call myself Baptist, Catholic, Mormon or whatever. I have studied each, and I find value in each one. I consider many different denominations or religions (Wrong Turns).. some of then profess to be a believer in Christ and others do not. Even the ones who say that they believe in Christ, I think that some get caught up in the laws and the rules and get off of the main point of Jesus Christ.. But sometime we have to take a wrong turn in order to hit a brick wall.... The value I find in this is exactly that.. a religion that eventually does not get you anywhere close to God... And when you get that far off you will be left to rely soley not on your religion, but on Jesus Christ.

Ok was going to give you a thumbs up but it won't let me at the moment ;-) God Bless

I want to know how many different types of christianity there are, and what they do. If you are reading this and you are a christian, what is the name of your group? And how do you know you are the right group? Do your prayers get answered and if so, how?
I am a christian, but i feel discouraged by the fact that there are so many different groups and they all believe themselves to be right. I'm not sure whether we just believe what we were brought up to believe or if we actually believe it ourselves. I'm wondering if I only believe because this is all i know, or if this is actually the right way.
Another question i would like to ask is, how did you come across your group, were you brought up in it or did you find it some other way?
List the types of christianity

I belong to an independent community church. I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and I serve his Kingdom with joy and gladness. Not just because he is my Lord and Saviour, but because he is my Personal Friend.

As far as I am concerned anyone who is on Christ's side is in the right group. Prayer for me is simply communicating with God, and having God communicate back. And yes he does communicate back? How? Anyone which way He wants to.

No I don't believe everything my church says is right. For that matter I don't believe everything I say is right. I often misinterpret God's Word.

Yes, I am a second generation believer, and I have had the same doubts as you, Leila07 . I even went through a time when I gave up on Christianity, but I came back. Why? Because I had a personal encounter with a living God.
It sounds like you could you use a fresh encounter with Jesus.

I believe you are going to get one.

"Ask and you will Receive"
"Seek and you Will Find"
"Knock and The Door will be Open Unto You"
Matthew 7:8/Luke 11:10

list the types of christianityA great site:
http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10300.html (http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10002.html)

Romans 3: 21-26
John 3: 16-20
John 14: 6-7
Ephesians 2: 8-10
Galatians 3

I am a sinner, it is on the love of Jesus Christ, his sacrificial death and resurrection, that I trust in for my redemption and salvation.
This life is short and it is for His praise, honor and glory.


Grace and peace

I want to know how many different types of christianity there are, and what they do. If you are reading this and you are a christian, what is the name of your group? And how do you know you are the right group? Do your prayers get answered and if so, how?
I am a christian, but i feel discouraged by the fact that there are so many different groups and they all believe themselves to be right. I'm not sure whether we just believe what we were brought up to believe or if we actually believe it ourselves. I'm wondering if I only believe because this is all i know, or if this is actually the right way.
Another question i would like to ask is, how did you come across your group, were you brought up in it or did you find it some other way?
There is only one "type" of Christian. You either are, or are not. Read John Chapter 3 and Romans Chapter 10.
A person becomes a Christian when they believe in their heart and confess with their mouth that Jesus Christ came into the world to die on the cross for the sins of the world.
As to your observation of different types...you are probably referring to denominations; or organized denominational groups.
It is not necessary to join a Church to be saved. Going to Church cannot make you a Christian any more than going to a garage make you a car!!
I hope this helps

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The "right" group is Jesus Christ and His Apostles. Read about them and their travels and experiences and you will be with the right group. I am purely non-denominational in the very real sense. I even attended a non-denominational church for awhile until I realized that the word "non-denominational" had become a denomination. Read the whole Bible from the very beginning in Genesis to the very end at the last page of Revelation. It will take you some time but it is very fulfilling. I've only met a couple of Christians in my life who have actually read the entire Bible. Most modern Christians are content to just believe whatever their favorite pastor tells them (even if it is incorrect). So, instead of looking for the group that's right, read what's right (the Bible) and find a group that agrees with it completely. Avoid groups that believe that the Bible is insufficient; who have added traditions or additional books to the "necessary for salvation" roster. Those types of groups will lead you astray and they follow a false Christ. The moral Law of God; coupled with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and His grace upon us; coupled with God's revealed Word as found in the Holy Bible... accept these and live by them and you cannot go wrong.

God is not interested in what domination you are in but rather what kind of life you are living. The bible is a mirror for us and we should see ourselves in it. The only way you know when someone is a christian is when he is a living bible . You can visit the following site it may help you .www.williambranham.com

Marily,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law and that we should follow the bible in its entirety.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

NK, I know what you are trying to say and do and before I even decided on answering yr question I first thought what God would say or do in a situation like this and all that I could came up was if you were standing next to me asking me those things, if yr a women I would hug you and said ' God bless you' if yr a man I would take your hand bless you ;)

So I guess you'll recommend a book as a guide but ignore the parts you don't like.

I really like you, you seemed to bring the best out of me :) maybe this will help : Avoiding a fight is a mark of honor , only fools insist in quarreling -author: JESUS

What you consider 'fighting' others call it 'backing up your statements'. What you are doing is picking and choosing:



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They pick and choose from the Bible. They ignore a lot of it.

They pick the few parts that teach forgiveness, love, justice, care for others, and that show God to be “a loving God”, like a heavenly father. And they base all their belief on those.

And they ignore the rest. Which makes up most of the Bible. They ignore most of the supposed “divinely inspired, word of God”.

They ignore the many parts that call for fanaticism, rigidness, killing of unbelievers, punishments that affect not only the supposed sinner, but his family, including several generations of descendants. They skip the parts that say than people should be put to death for homosexuality (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020:13;&version=9;), or for disobeying their parents (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2021:18-21;&version=9;), or for doing this, or that - even for gathering wood on the Sabbath (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2015:32-36;&version=9;). They move over the parts that don't (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2017:11-12;&version=9;) make (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2033:23;&version=9;) any (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2023:1;&version=9;) sense (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2015:19-30;&version=9;) (4 links). They believe in an all-powerful God, so they ignore passages like this (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges%201:19;&version=9;).

So, basically, the only way to be a [I]non-fanatic Christian is to ignore, say, 90% of the Bible.

While I applaud such people for rejecting the obviously “bad” parts of their “holy” book, I have to say that it doesn't really make a lot of sense… that is, if you pick and choose from the Bible, following only the parts you like (about, say, 10%), then aren't you, in a way, creating your own religion? Aren't you saying that 90% of the Bible is worthless for you, yet the remaining 10% is worth following, believing in, basing your faith on? Aren't you, in effect, saying that 90% of the supposed “word of God” is… crap?

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You should not believe everything you read on websites, something's are written to discourage people. I don't know if you are a christian or not but so far you have just wrote negative things to me. Forgetting that if you are interested I could give you my email address so that we could get to know each other.

Uh-oh, I wasn't aware that that site may have stuff that isn't correct. What part is not true?

I certainly do not want to jump in the middle of this - but I do have a question.
NK, you bring up some points in that long post about interperting the old testament.
Does the New Testament clarify these types of things? I know in the old, men had lots of wives, in the new they didn't.

Oh, and NK, you can't own a Canadian slave because you are Canadian. It clearly states that you can only have one from another nation. :)

You falsely accused me of picking and choosing, and I forgive you for that. Im not here to have a debate with anyone, but if you have a change of mind or attitude I am more than willing to explain to you who I am and for what I stand for.

Okay, Marily... I, as a Christian, sincerely have a question. I admit that I am not as educated on the Bible as I would like. Sometimes I get confused. NeedKarma did bring up a question for me. A lot of the things that were brought up in the old testament confuse me. How things were handled, etc.
Did Jesus, in the New testament explain things. Like, having more than one wife in the old and only having one in the new. (that is what readily comes to my mind)

That is something that has always confused me.

Need karma:

Read action jackson's suggestion

Read and study the bible in its entirety.

When you bring up the Law in the OT [ i.e. levicticus] and the read of the harshness, gore, and punishment in the such books as in Joshua or Judges, this stands in stark contrast to what Jesus did for us in the Gospels. Matt 5:17

Also read St Paul's Epistles regarding freedom. For example Galatians 3, 1 John: 4


Grace and Peace

But if ones reads the Bible in its entirety it does not stop the fact that those laws and nasty bits are still there. Yet people recommend that the Bibke in its entirety be used as a life guide. Do they really just mean the NT?

I have always thought of it this way - The old testament is before the coming of Christ - the new testament is during and after Christ.
Like I have said, I am not as educated on the Bible as I would like. I would love for someone to explain the stark contrast of the old and new testaments.

I know that when I have asked - they tell me not to start reading the Bible from the beginning (Gen.) but start with John. That it would make more sense to me.

I have always thought of it this way - The old testament is before the coming of Christ - the new testament is during and after Christ.
Like I have said, I am not as educated on the Bible as I would like. I would love for someone to explain the stark contrast of the old and new testaments.

I know that when I have asked - they tell me not to start reading the Bible from the beginning (Gen.) but start with John. That it would make more sense to me.

I understand what you are saying but wouldn't that be like telling someone to start a crime thriller from the bit where they catch the murderer because it makes more sense?

Maybe a bad analogy but I really don't see anyone answering NK's quite legitimate questions! Surely one can't pick what bits are to be taken literally and which bits aren't to?

I have always thought of it this way - The old testament is before the coming of Christ - the new testament is during and after Christ.
Like I have said, I am not as educated on the Bible as I would like. I would love for someone to explain the stark contrast of the old and new testaments. I know that when I have asked - they tell me not to start reading the Bible from the beginning (Gen.) but start with John. That it would make more sense to me.

We've all read a good book. I used to like to read books by Mark Twain. You know, Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. There was a beginning a middle and an end to the book. There were calm moments, scary moments, exciting moments, romantic moments, etc. There were parts of the book that affected us deeply and parts that were a bit dull. No matter what we thought of the overall book, it was what it was. The book, in its entirety came from the heart and mind of the author.

The Bible is a story. It's His Story or history (that's what history means, His Story). It has a beginning "In the beginning, God"; it generally goes in chronological order; it has a middle; then there are parts of the story that we don't know about somewhere between the Old and New Testament; then comes the New Testament. If we really think about it, we should call it the Old Testament and the Older Testament since what we call "New" is more than 2000 years old. I prefer to call it the Whole Testament because it is the Word of God from start to finish. It comes from the heart and mind of God.

Yes, the Old Testament had blood and gore, but wasn't Christ's death on the cross a bit bloody and gory, albeit, glorious? From the moment Cain slew Abel in the very first book in the Bible, Genesis, to the bloody wars spoken of throughout the "Old" Testament to John the Baptist's beheading to Christ's crucifixion to the blood and mayhem that occurs in the book of Revelation (things that haven't even happened yet), the Bible has had its moments of tears and pain. But if you research the Old Testament, there were times when God was very kind and loving and giving to His people. Read the Psalms of King David.

To start reading the Bible from Matthew or John would be like reading a Stephen King novel from chapter 12.

Okay. Fair enough. Like I have said (and will continue to in a thread like this one) I am not as well versed in the Bible like I would like to be. The person who actually told me to start at John was my Pastor. What you are saying makes sense to me.

okay, Marily... I, as a Christian, sincerely have a question. I admit that I am not as educated on the Bible as I would like. Sometimes I get confused. NeedKarma did bring up a question for me. Alot of the things that were brought up in the old testament confuse me. How things were handled, etc.
Did Jesus, in the New testament explain things. Like, having more than one wife in the old and only having one in the new. (that is what readily comes to my mind)
That is something that has always confused me.

I'm not going to say that I agree with polygamy but there really isn't much said in the New Testament banning the practice. I don't believe that Christ banned it and it's not mentioned in the 10 Commandments. I'm certainly happy with one wife. It does say that a bishop or leader in the Church should have one wife. I believe that it was permissible in the Old Testament because it was necessary to be fruitful and to multiply and to subdue the earth. Also, Christ was and is our Example. He will be the Groom and His people will be the bride (in a spiritual sense); one bride and one groom. On the other hand, if a bomb exploded and wiped out the majority of human beings on the planet, then I see no reason for people not to do what is necessary to replenish the earth with more people. An interesting topic in and of itself.

In the 10 commandments, doesn't it say "thou shalt not commit adultery" ? Wouldn't that cover it? Or by having more than one "wife" it isn't adultery because it is a wife? If you had a wife and then just a girlfriend - would that be considered adultery in the Bible?

Sorry. I do believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and that He is the one true saviour. But, sometimes, things like this confuse me.

I see that you have a lot of questions about the bible, I can tell you what I think but since the bible is of no personal interpretation allow me to give you the web address of the prophet for the Laodicea age. You might find something helpful. I may not have revelation upon the entire bible but I know the author real well. www.williambranham.com

Marily,
That man may have issues: he sees a ring shaped cloud and professes it to be a revelation of seven angels to him (link (http://www.williambranham.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=79&Itemid=85)). Elsewhere he suffers from verbal diarrea (just look at the length of this page (http://www.williambranham.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=46&Itemid=128)!).

Action,
That is one book I would never allow my children to read. I'd rather they learn morality from their parents than read about killings, sacrificing, polygamy, incest, etc.

I am glad that you have visited the site, and I appreciate your comment.

Okay. Fair enough. Like I have said (and will continue to in a thread like this one) I am not as well versed in the Bible like I would like to be. The person who actually told me to start at John was my Pastor. What you are saying makes sense to me.

Your pastor isn't a bad person for telling you to do that. The books of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, etc. can have some very dry and dull sections (you will find out that even those dry sections have great meaning). Some people might get bored and give up reading the Bible altogether. Your pastor wants you to be excited about reading the Bible so his intentions are good. However, if you really want to have a deep, deep understanding of what is going on in the New Testament, you will short-change yourself if you don't read the Old Testament. It would be like building a beautiful house on sand. There would be no foundation.

In the 10 commandments, doesn't it say "thou shalt not commit adultery" ? Wouldn't that cover it? or by having more than one "wife" it isn't adultery because it is a wife? If you had a wife and then just a girlfriend - would that be considered adultery in the Bible? Sorry. I do believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and that He is the one true saviour. But, sometimes, things like this confuse me.

In the book of Romans chapter 13, we're told to be subject to the civil authority. Fortunately for us, our civil laws (assuming you're in the U.S.) ban bigamy and polygamy.

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Action,
That is one book I would never allow my children to read. I'd rather they learn morality from their parents than read about killings, sacrificing, polygamy, incest, etc.[/QUOTE]

So allowing your children to learn some truth but not all truth will be your approach to childrearing? Okay, fair enough. You will probably have to take out your black marker and cross out the sections of the New Testament where John the Baptist lost his head; cross out Christ's crucifixion; cross out the stoning of the Apostle Stephen; cross out anything and everything that might present itself as violent or bloody. You will also have to shield their eyes from what they see as you drive down the road to the local grocery store as well.

When you endeavor to pick what truth your children will learn, you run the risk of distorting their overall perspective. How can you teach them that something is wrong if they don't know that wrong exists?

But if ones reads the Bible in its entirety it does not stop the fact that those laws and nasty bits are still there. Yet people recommend that the Bibke in its entirety be used as a life guide. Do they really just mean the NT?

Are you saying that the following laws are "nasty bits?":

Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not kill (murder)
Thou shalt honor thy father and thy mother
Thou shalt not put other gods before Me (God)
Thou shalt not covet

Interesting.

Read the Whole Testament.

Why did you completely skip over the post I made earlier (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/christianity/what-type-christian-you-59865-3.html#post443640) and only mention the 10% good bits in the OT?

As for those things you mentioned, I don't need a book to tell me to honour my parents, not steal and not sleep with my neighbour's wife, I was raised with those morals from the get go.

How can you teach them that something is wrong if they don't know that wrong exists?Are you saying that the only solution to learning about wrong is to read the bible?

BTW we do teach our children to tell the truth, like any good parent. I'm not sure what 'truth' you speak of.

Are you discussing morals (moral relativism) here or Christianity? Christianity is about faith. Faith in the Old Testament & faith in the New Testament. My denomination is Christ. It's pretty simple. I don't let" denominations" keep me from visiting their Church. There's a couple of denominations that I won't look into because I don't agree with books added to the Bible.
BTW-
Much of the wrath (especially in the Old T) could have been prevented if the people kept commandments #1 & #2.
Love the Lord , your God with all your soul.
Thou shall not have any strange gods before Me.

Why did you completely skip over the post I made earlier (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/christianity/what-type-christian-you-59865-3.html#post443640) and only mention the 10% good bits in the OT? As for those things you mentioned, I don't need a book to tell me to honour my parents, not steal and not sleep with my neighbour's wife, I was raised with those morals from the get go.

Those morals orignated in the Old Testament.

So we know that if something is only 10% good (how you reach that particular number, I don't know) that it is not good enough to teach your children. Please indicate when something IS good enough to teach your children:
A) When it's 20% good?
B) When it's 30% good?
C) When it's 40% good?
D) When it's 50% good?
E) When it's 51% good?
F) When it's 100% good?

1)Would you let your children watch a nature show where a lion eats a gazelle? Too much death and blood?
2)Would you allow your children to see two people in bed, French kissing on television? Premarital sex or adultery or prostitution?
3)Will you allow your children to learn about evolution in public school? Opposite of God's Creation?
4)Will they be allowed to put a condom on a banana in sex ed? Practice for future activities?
5)Will your children be allowed to watch the evening news with bombs exploding in Iraq or the World Trade Center towers crumbling to the ground? Bloody truth.
6)Does the books of Psalms and Proverbs fall into the "good" part of the Old Testament?
7)How about the story of God's creative power as found in Genesis? Does that fall into the "bad" section?

Out of curiosity, what books would you allow your children to read?

Are you saying that the only solution to learning about wrong is to read the bible?
BTW we do teach our children to tell the truth, like any good parent. I'm not sure what 'truth' you speak of.

Reading the Bible is certainly a good start to learning right from wrong. If you don't allow your children to read the Bible because there are disturbing truths found there then what book will they read from? From what I have gleaned from your recent statements you must believe that there are books that are better than the Bible from which you shall teach your children. I'm glad that your kids tell some truth (except for Bible truth because they aren't allowed to read it). Quite a unique approach to life. Question: Do you wear rose colored sun glasses? No need to answer.

Marily,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law and that we should follow the bible in its entirety.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.


Hey need karma,
Your ignorance, immaturity, and obvious lack of the fear of God is so plain for all to see. Since you seem to be so intent on "bending" the Scripture with you childish actions,I will caution you about this by sharing a scripture with you... Galatians 6:7,8.. Be not deceived, God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption: but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. I fear for you when you don't have the sense to fear for yourself. You need to repent and beg the forgiveness of a merciful God.

1)Would you let your children watch a nature show where a lion eats a gazelle? After a certain age, say 8 or 9.
2)Would you allow your children to see two people in bed, French kissing on television? Premarital sex or adultery or prostitution? No.
3)Will you allow your children to learn about evolution in public school? Opposite of God's Creation? Big yes on evolution. Public school has nothing to do with christianity teaching.
4)Will they be allowed to put a condom on a banana in sex ed? Practice for future activities? Parents will teach about sex ed. What do you do at your house? How is this relevant to the bible?
5)Will your children be allowed to watch the evening news with bombs exploding in Iraq or the World Trade Center towers crumbling to the ground? Bloody truth. No, not until they get older to understand certain things.
6)Does the books of Psalms and Proverbs fall into the "good" part of the Old Testament? Tough call, Psalms is somewhat benign, I forget about Proverbs.
7)How about the story of God's creative power as found in Genesis? Does that fall into the "bad" section? Yes.

Out of curiosity, what books would you allow your children to read? Age appropriate books.

I hope that answers your questions. :)

Hey need karma,
Your ignorance, immaturity, and obvious lack of the fear of God is so plain for all to see. Since you seem to be so intent on "bending" the Scripture with your childish actions,I will caution you about this by sharing a scripture with you...Galatians 6:7,8..Be not deceived, God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption: but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. I fear for you when you don't have the sense to fear for yourself. You need to repent and beg the forgiveness of a merciful God.

Hello poppa0777. Nice to meet you. The very name "NeedKarma" kind of says it all. Karma is a philosophy taught in the eastern religions (hinduism or buddhism? ) so it comes as no surprise that NK is opposed to all that is Godly and Christian. He/she has a great deal of animosity towards Holy Scriptures. He/she will pick what questions he/she will answer but avoid the tough ones. He/she argues for the sake of arguing. We will always come across NKs in our life... people who don't care about truth or falsehood but always fall victim to their own self deceit. On the other hand, there are others who are an oasis of common sense. Again, nice to meet you.

Hey need karma,
Your ignorance, immaturity, and obvious lack of the fear of God is so plain for all to see. Since you seem to be so intent on "bending" the Scripture with you childish actions,I will caution you about this by sharing a scripture with you...Galatians 6:7,8..Be not deceived, God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption: but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. I fear for you when you don't have the sense to fear for yourself. You need to repent and beg the forgiveness of a merciful God.


For the record I meant to disagree with this post! Unnecessary in my view.

NK has not showed ignorance nor immaturity. He has asked questions, which obviously have struck a chord with you and brought on this attack.

I have not seen you address his questions at all. Why not?

I agree with the post by poppa. NK's post( to marily) was sarcastic & disrespectful of Chrisianity & the Bible.
For the record... Skell :p

Why the hatred? All I did was post quotes from the bible. The same thing that most of you do in every other post. What part of that has angered you? It's all from the same book that you offer as an excellent life guide.

He/she will pick and choose what questions he/she will answer but avoid the tough ones. Did you not see where I answered every single one of your questions? Yet no one has answered the questions I originally posted.

Did you not see where I answered every single one of your questions? Yet no one has answered the questions I originally posted.

Well I must admit, you answered MOST of the questions but I'm still interested to know where you draw the line between 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, 51%, or 100%. You know what I'm talking about... you can revisit the post if you don't remember.

The Bible is more than just a "life guide." You may hear some people repeating that mantra but I'm not one of them. Yes, it contains God's plan for how we should live our lives but it's more than that. It's a history of man's origin; his migrations; his interactions with God and man. Even the portions of the Bible where men do evil things are a benefit to the reader because it shows the consequences of doing evil vs. doing things righteously. The Bible transcends time because it speaks of things to come. The Bible should be a comfort to the reader but also a warning. More than anything, the Bible reveals God's undying love for His creation. Not only did He love mankind enough to create him in the first place, but He loved us enough to send His Son, Jesus Christ, to die for our sins. I haven't yet heard you make the claim that you are without sin so I assume that you recognize the fact that you aren't without sin. If Christ's painful suffering and death was not a sufficient sacrifice for your sins, then who will be? Buddha?

I have not read every post you have ever written so I'm not completely familiar with your entire philosophy. I know that you reject God and His Word. That being the case, what's your blueprint for life? Remember, if you're wrong, your example and teaching will lead your children down the very same path you're heading.

Well I must admit, you answered MOST of the questions but I'm still interested to know where you draw the line between 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, 51%, or 100%. You know what I'm talking about...you can revisit the post if you don't remember.Well it helps to at least read the posts in the thread that you are posting in. The 10% number stems from this post (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/christianity/what-type-christian-you-59865-4.html#post443748) in this very thread.


That being the case, what's your blueprint for life? Remember, if you're wrong, your example and teaching will lead your children down the very same path you're heading.Well I'm heading down a great path thank you very much. I have a good life with a great wife and kids. I make good decisions. We laugh and explore the world and make friends with all types of people. What's your path like?

If you met my kids you'd be impressed by their zest for life, intelligence, empathy and politeness. All this taught to them by their parents. All without the benefit of interpreting vague parables from the bible. How can this be?? I'm actually making my own decisions and selecting my own morals!

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Well I'm heading down a great path thank you very much. I have a good life with a great wife and kids. I make good decisions. We laugh and explore the world and make friends with all types of people. What's your path like?
If you met my kids you'd be impressed by their zest for life, intelligence, empathy and politeness. All this taught to them by their parents. All without the benefit of interpreting vague parables from the bible. How can this be???? I'm actually making my own decisions and selecting my own morals!

Okay, so if a book has 20% good bits of truth and 80% bad bits of truth, it's acceptable. That's all I asked and I thank you for your answer. You have now answered all of my questions... thank you.

In one sense, we're on the very same path i.e. life on this planet. We'll both face similar adversity; we will both laugh and both cry; we will meet really cool people and some really evil individuals; we both care about our families and provide for them the best we can. But if you're not on the path that was paved with the suffering, pain, and death of Jesus Christ, it's not really a "great" path. "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:13,14

The only real difference between your path and mine is the difference between our faith or lack of faith in Jesus Christ. Christ opened that door or "gate" for us. It's our choice whether we go in or not.

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Marily (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/../members/marily.html) disagrees: A life without God is not much of a life.

What are you talking about? Millions upon millions of people are having a great life being other than what you are. The arrogance of your statement is frightening. :(

Straight is the gate and narrow is the way, those who find it are few.

None are so blind as those who will not see.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.




That is the only "witty" thing I could think of... :)

But it works well.. for both sides. :)

Hello poppa0777. Nice to meet you. The very name "NeedKarma" kinda says it all. Karma is a philosophy taught in the eastern religions (hinduism or buddhism??) so it comes as no surprise that NK is opposed to all that is Godly and Christian. He/she has a great deal of animosity towards Holy Scriptures. He/she will pick and choose what questions he/she will answer but avoid the tough ones. He/she argues for the sake of arguing. We will always come across NKs in our life...people who don't care about truth or falsehood but always fall victim to their own self deceit. On the other hand, there are others who are an oasis of common sense. Again, nice to meet you.
Hi Skell... Would you please be more specific on the "tough issues"? I would like to answer them to the best of my ability.I suspect that our main line of division will be that I believe the Word of God (The Holy Bible) is the absolute,final, complete, and authoritative Work of the Holy Ghost, and must be viewed that way. The problem usually comes in when an unbeliever attempts to discern the Scriptures. Scripture can only be understood and correctly discerned by a Child of the most High God. No one has all of the answers, as the Scripture is spiritually discerned, and answers come to us in God's timing. For me, this takes a lot of prayer and diligence in the Word of God. I have been a serious student of the Scriptures for 32 years, and have far more questions than answers. I write this in the spirit of trying to do and say the right thing:o .

Scripture can only be understood and correctly discerned by a Child of the most High God. So it is not understood by the regular man, woman, or child?

Needkarma,
Yes, I believe that's true-about actually understanding the Bible. Before I was saved, I read a little here & there, but I couldn't make much sense of it then.

2:10 God has revealed these to us by the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 2:11 For who among men knows the things of a man except the man’s spirit within him? So too, no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 2:12 Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things that are freely given to us by God. 2:13 And we speak about these things, not with words taught us by human wisdom, but with those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people. 8 2:14 The unbeliever 9 does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 2:15 The one who is spiritual discerns 10 all things, yet he himself is understood 11 by no one. 2:16 For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to advise him? 12 But we have the mind of Christ. (1Corinthians 2:10-16)

That's why you keep mentioning the Old Testament Laws. Jesus came to fulfill the law. The Law ends with Jesus. We (Christians) are now under grace, not the law. Only very religious Jews keep all those laws. But that's another story that will be worked out for them in God's time.
So, I hope you understand a little now about those laws.:)

So it is not understood by the regular man, woman, or child?

NeedKarma,
That is exactly what the Bible says, and what I believe. The below words in (brackets and bold )are mine for clarity

(1Co 2:10) But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11) For what man knoweth the things of a man, save (except) the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth (understandeth)no man, but the Spirit of God.
(1Co 2:12) Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
(1Co 2:13) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
(1Co 2:14) But the natural man (non-Christians)receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know (understand)them, because they are spiritually discerned.
(1Co 2:15) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
(1Co 2:16) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we (Christians)have the mind of Christ.
I hope this helps.

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Thanks for the thumbs up. I can move on now.

Needkarma:

I am far from a Bible scholar, and can't answer all your questions, and the seeming contradictions, but here is my take on it.

The Old Testament was about all the rules and regulations to be 'right' with God.
Frankly, its depressing and hard. A lot of the Old Testament is Jewish History and not necessarily doctrinal.

The New Testament and the Gospels [the good news] is about hope and love. That God would send His Son to die for our sins. The Ten Commandments point out our sins and a need for redemption and salvation. In Matthew 5 lust is adultery, in 1 John Hate is murder.
No one can be'good' enough. Romans 3. But it is joyful to know that faith is all you need -
Ephesians 2

It is like having a strict father. Bs in school are not good enough, it has to be an A. A single is not good enough, it has to be a homerun etc.. For that you get a paddling.
Awhile later you are taken hostage, and they demand a ransom from your father or they will torture and kill you. You think your father, the one who was strict, you were never good enough for, would leave you to your fate. But instead he sacrifices himself - takes the torture and death - for your life. Its then you realize how much he loves you, and how much you want to please him. There is no fear because you know he loves you.


Grace and Peace

All too common a question these days, I'm afraid. I'm not sure my answer will satisfy you, but I'll put it down anyway.

I was raised in the Methodist church, and until I was an adult, I never knew anything different. Once an adult, I sort of left the church (and Christianity in general), because I just didn't see how all the stuff that got preached to me (most of the sermons sounded more like seminary lectures) really MATTERED out there in the world where the rubber meets the road. Sure, I still believed in God and all that, but wasn't sure if He was what had been represented to me all those years. So I fooled around with other stuff like Buddhism, New Age junk, even looked into Islam and Mormonism a little.

However, various events in my life transpired in such a way as to get my full and undivided attention, and to make a VERY long story short, I ended up back in my hometown after many years, sitting in the same pew of the same church I grew up in. I began taking graduate level courses to reinforce and bolster my knowledge of the faith, and that's where I started running into trouble.

I'm not going to slam any denomination, but I decided for reasons of my own that this particular denomination did not "mesh" with what I had learned thus far, and so began seeking. I found myself in a non-denominational church whose members included folks that had come from Methodist, Baptist, Church of Christ, Catholic, Lutheran, and just about any other denomination you care to name. All of us, down to a person, believe that the name on the door of the church is completely and totally irrelevant, and actually seems to be doing more to DIVIDE God's people than unite them.

So there you have it---I am a non-denominational, Bible-believing, semi-educated Christian who believes that--as Christians of all denominations--we have far more in common than different, and is actively working for unity among ALL who call themselves by Christ's name.

Clear as mud now, ain't it?

DK

[QUOTE=kindj]All too common a question these days, I'm afraid. I'm not sure my answer will satisfy you, but I'll put it down anyway.

I was raised in the Methodist church, and until I was an adult, I never knew anything different. Once an adult, I sort of left the church (and Christianity in general), because I just didn't see how all the stuff that got preached to me (most of the sermons sounded more like seminary lectures) really MATTERED out there in the world where the rubber meets the road. Sure, I still believed in God and all that, but wasn't sure if He was what had been represented to me all those years. So I fooled around with other stuff like Buddhism, New Age junk, even looked into Islam and Mormonism a little.

However, various events in my life transpired in such a way as to get my full and undivided attention, and to make a VERY long story short, I ended up back in my hometown after many years, sitting in the same pew of the same church I grew up in. I began taking graduate level courses to reinforce and bolster my knowledge of the faith, and that's where I started running into trouble.

I'm not going to slam any denomination, but I decided for reasons of my own that this particular denomination did not "mesh" with what I had learned thus far, and so began seeking. I found myself in a non-denominational church whose members included folks that had come from Methodist, Baptist, Church of Christ, Catholic, Lutheran, and just about any other denomination you care to name. All of us, down to a person, believe that the name on the door of the church is completely and totally irrelevant, and actually seems to be doing more to DIVIDE God's people than unite them.

So there you have it---I am a non-denominational, Bible-believing, semi-educated Christian who believes that--as Christians of all denominations--we have far more in common than different, and is actively working for unity among ALL who call themselves by Christ's name.

Clear as mud now, ain't it?
Kindj,
Don't leave out the most important part of all of this... that we Must be born again!
(Joh 3:1) There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

(Joh 3:2) The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

(Joh 3:3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

(Joh 3:4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

(Joh 3:5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

(Joh 3:6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

(Joh 3:7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

(Joh 3:8) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

(Joh 3:9) Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

(Joh 3:10) Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

(Joh 3:11) Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

(Joh 3:12) If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

(Joh 3:13) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

(Joh 3:14) And as Moses lifted the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

(Joh 3:15) That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

(Joh 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

(Joh 3:17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Joh 3:18) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

However, various events in my life transpired in such a way as to get my full and undivided attention, and to make a VERY long story short, I ended up back in my hometown after many years, sitting in the same pew of the same church I grew up in. I began taking graduate level courses to reinforce and bolster my knowledge of the faith, and that's where I started running into trouble.

DK

I think that the key to this post is "various events in my life transpired in such a way as to get my full and undivided attention..." I truly think that those kinds of events seem necessary for some reason to get most Christians' attention. I had come to the end of my rope as a very heavy drug user and alcoholic. It took nearly 10 years of broken relationships, vehicle accidents, overdoses, jail time, lost money and heavy debt, etc. to finally reach a point where I had to make a decision. When I was in the early stages of cirrhosis of the liver (at age 24) I knew I had to turn to a power greater than myself and that power was Jesus Christ. I'm now 47 and much healthier than I was in my 20s. I give all credit, praise, and glory to Jesus Christ for giving me the strength and the tools to recover from that nightmare. Other people come to Christ through living other experiences. I like to hear the stories.

Poppa said: "Don't leave out the most important part of all of this....that we Must be born again!"

I tried to rate your post but was told I "had to spread my ratings around before I could rate you again"??

Anyway, you're absolutely correct. That's what's so difficult about discussing Chrsitianity with non-believers. We're really in two different places or plains which makes it virtually impossible to connect. On the other hand, how will non-believers ever hear the gospel if they don't hear it preached?

Poppa said: "Don't leave out the most important part of all of this....that we Must be born again!"

I tried to rate your post but was told I "had to spread my ratings around before I could rate you again"?????????

Anyway, you're absolutely correct. That's what's so difficult about discussing Chrsitianity with non-believers. We're really in two different places or plains which makes it virtually impossible to connect. On the other hand, how will non-believers ever hear the gospel if they don't hear it preached?
AMEN! It is the TRUTH that sets us free!!!
(Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

(Rom 10:10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

(Rom 10:11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Hey need karma,
Your ignorance, immaturity, and obvious lack of the fear of God is so plain for all to see. Since you seem to be so intent on "bending" the Scripture with you childish actions,I will caution you about this by sharing a scripture with you...Galatians 6:7,8..Be not deceived, God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption: but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. I fear for you when you don't have the sense to fear for yourself. You need to repent and beg the forgiveness of a merciful God.
NeedKarma,
This was in no way meant to be a "personal attack". The answer was strong because I believe the Bible teaches very strongly that each of us will stand before a just God and give an account for everything we've done or sais. I am sorry if I offended you.

(2Co 5:10) For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

(2Co 5:11) Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

None are so blind as those who will not see.

Correct, now apply that very important truth and you'll be on the right path.

I am a Christian because I believe and follow Jesus the Christ's teachings. I go to simply a Christian - Christian Church we believe only in the bible and all of it's teaching. I feel this is right because the bible is the only thing God wrote that is given to us. We all have our own faith and everyone is on the same level. I promise this is truly the right path to go, but I'm sure any of the different Christian forms are just a benifitting:)

For me, it's not a difficult question to address. Saying we are 'christians' and going to church is not what makes anyone a christian. That would be like saying that standing in a garage makes you a car!
Since the term 'christian' was coined by the apostle Paul in the book of Acts, as 'someone belonging to Christ', we have to understand that religious ritual or joining a church, or shaking the preacher's hand cannot make us a christian. True profession means possession!
If I were to profess to be an air pilot, and you got in a plane with me, we would all be killed! Why? Because I didn't possess what I professed.
Since the term 'Christian' was first used in the Bible to denote 'someone belonging to Christ', that's what it takes to become a christian. Here is what the Bible says about this... Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Since the term 'christian' was coined by the apostle Paul in the book of Acts, as 'someone belonging to Christ',

Sir Nitpick sez:

Wrong. It was coined by nonbelievers in Antioch shortly after a church was established there. It seems to have started as a derogatory term but the believers adopted it and wore it proudly. Paul had nothing to do with its origin.