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samga
Aug 3, 2011, 12:57 PM
Is it legal to fire union employee twelve years over one accident? I have never been late
No prior accidents. Never been written up.Just fired same day as accident with no verbal or written warning.
JudyKayTee
Aug 3, 2011, 01:17 PM
What does the Union contract say? All contracts are not alike.
excon
Aug 3, 2011, 01:22 PM
Is it legal to fire union employee twelve years over one accident?Hello s:

I'd say NO. If they can, you have a VERY WEAK union.

excon
JudyKayTee
Aug 3, 2011, 01:32 PM
Hello s:

I'd say NO. If they can, you have a VERY WEAK union.

excon


I'd like to know more about the accident. There's a difference between being a truck driver, on company time, in an accident while intoxicated and dropping a tray of cookies.
excon
Aug 3, 2011, 01:40 PM
I'd like to know more about the accident. Hello again, Judy:

Me too. But, even if he were 100% at fault, and disobeyed a bunch of rules and policy, he STILL should be afforded due process. Having NEVER been written up before MAY be a clincher...

I know when I managed union employees, I HAD to have written warnings in the file before I could fire anybody no matter WHAT they did. Ok, I guess if they murdered a customer, I could have let 'em go.. But, I was never that lucky.

excon
Fr_Chuck
Aug 3, 2011, 02:14 PM
It is of course "legal" they can not be arrested for doing so,

It may well be against the union contract, that is why you have a shop steward who you need to have with you at any meeting, they can file a protest with the company on your behalf

If you came in drunk and had a wreck, killed someone, yes I would assume you would be fired. If you tripped and broke a 100 tool, most likely not
AK lawyer
Aug 3, 2011, 02:43 PM
it is of course "legal" they can not be arrested for doing so, ...

"Legal" and "not criminal" are entirely two different concepts. It is "illegal" to violate a contract, including a union contract.


... If you came in drunk and had a wreck, killed someone, yes I would assume you would be fired. ...

Or, to use excon's example, if you murdered a customer. :D
ScottGem
Aug 3, 2011, 04:31 PM
The question is not whether it is legal or not, but whether it violates the union contract or not. So what did your shop steward or union rep say when you went to him/her?