I'm having this internal conflict about choosing a "side." I'm Bisexual and want to be gay, but I'm afraid of going down that road because of that common statement made by hateful straights saying that all homosexuals are damned to Hell. I mean I understand how that can be so based on the Bible, but are we really damned for being us, and doing what we do? (Which is honestly no different from the lives of a common straight, other than difference in sex.) I know there are maybe pastors on here in Christianity, and I need to here an answer from one of them myself. Is it true that for being gay, I will be damned to Hell? Or not.

The most important thing you have to do in your life is be yourself, Needing. Gay or straight we are all god's children. Do what you feel in your heart is the right thing to do.

Tick

Though I'm confused because will God punish you for doing what you believed was right?

God says he will punish any sexual sin. The belief of my Church is that any sex outside of marriage is a sin. And that marriage is between a man and a women.

So all of those who are having sex outside of marriage, including affairs no matter straight or gay sex.

We also teach forgiveness but as Christ said, when he forgave to go and sin no more.

The step to forgivness is accepting the fact that a action is a sin, asking to be forgiven, and trying hard not to commit that sin again.

Many people believe that all sorts of things are "right". The bible is full of stories that tells us how men went after the desires of the heart, be it sex, power, money or more.

The bible is a rule book, a guideline for us to follow, we all fall short but the idea is to try.

My grandfather is a priest.
He has gay priests in his church and does not discriminate.

He told me that God made us all perfect, black white, gay, bi- God made us- Just the way we are, Why would he punish his children for being exactly how he made them?

There has always been homo sexuality in the world, but in the past people have been scared to show it, the world is now a much more acccepting place, Im sure there are tonnes of people out there who know what you are going through.
I'm sure there must be some support groups for you out there and some gay friendly churches to.
Stay strong - and be yourself no matter how hard things get, there is always help out there for you and I wish you thebest of luck finding yourself.

No matter what people say, being gay is NOT a choice. It's just how your born. . Stay strong <3

Here's the thing... what this really boils down to... the OP wants to know what the bible teaches about it. Now to sit here and cater to what Needing WANTS to hear is really pussyfooting around the issue. Fr_Chuck said exactly what the bible says about it. Needin', this has nothing to do with those "evil straights" out there... this is what God gave to us in His revealed will for humanity. Yes, there are very very mean people out there, i.e. Westboro Baptist, that act in the exact opposite of love... but it doesn't change God's view of homosexuality, and as Fr_Chuck stated any other sexual sin. Sex is not wrong like we are drilled to believe... it is a planned and beautiful thing given to us by our creator... when it's done according to how He planned it. To answer your question, sexual relations outside of God's plan for it, IS sin. And to address Ashleythegoth, I don't care what denomination your grandfather belongs to... if he claims to stand for the bible, I suggest he reread it a couple times because he is obviously missing A LOT from it. Needing, if you want to serve yourself... go ahead and be gay. But if there is any part of you that DOES want to serve God... not Christians mind you, but God... then I suggest you not give in to it. Just because you are TEMPTED to be homosexual does not mean you are and I for one will always have hope for those that wish to change from that life style choice.

Wonderfully put and to the point.

Needing, also keep in mind there is a difference between doing what you think(or want) is right and doing what really is right. Just because something is in our heart to do, does not mean it is OK.

Needin, also keep in mind there is a difference between doing what you think(or want) is right and doing what really is right. Just because something is in our heart to do, does not mean it is OK.

While I agree that homosexual behavior is a sin, the truth is that it's no worse than any other sin. God will indeed punish all sin, but he will also forgive any sin. To the OP, no, you're not damned for being bisexual. The only sin that damns anyone is unbelief. Period.

Homosexuality is not a choice; it is hormonal imbalance (to much progesterone, not enough totesterone that happens in the womb, plain and simple) and not a comfortable one at that. It doesn't have much to do with faith, or god. If a man is driven to be one sex or the other there are good medical reasons and fighting it will only lead to unhappiness and sometimes suicide. So, which side do you want to sit on?

I think its wonderful when a person is strong enough to truly believe what he wants to be and can strive to be it.

Tick

IMO

While I agree that homosexual behavior is a sin, the truth is that it's no worse than any other sin. God will indeed punish all sin, but he will also forgive any sin. To the OP, no, you're not damned for being bisexual. The only sin that damns anyone is unbelief. Period.

That was exactly what I was going to say. The ONLY thing God can't forgive is unbelief... period. That is IT>

And I would also like to add that all of the human race is in the same boat when we are born. In God's eyes we are all equal. I don't care if being gay is something that is learned or something a person is born with. We are ALL born under the curse and sinners. The Lord jesus took that curse for us. What we decide to do and believe about the Lord Jesus Christ is what makes the difference. The blood of Jesus Christ, God's son cleanses us from all sin. ALL sin... there is NOTHING he can't or won't forgive. THAT is what make Christianity different than religion. You don't have to work for the forgiveness you just have to BELIEVE it. The only way anyone is damned is if they reject Christ and die in their sins. That's it.

That's fine Tickle... and it's one of those things that most people have their view on and will rarely change it. However the OP seemed to want the Christian view of this lifestyle... and by Christian I assume the OP meant biblical view, let's face it some "Christians" really have no idea what it is about. Dwashbur, in the end you're correct... sin is sin and it will all be punished, However I believe there is a difference between a moment of sin and a lifestyle of sin. I get angry sometimes, and in that moment I have said some pretty angry things... which can be hateful, hurtful and everything else... and as soon as it is out of my mouth I know it is a mistake. That is still sin and I address it to God as such. Homosexuality and every other sexually immoral sin kind of stands out because you are living that sin everyday. It's not just in the moment of intercourse... it's the daily mentality of it.

I'm not God and none of us are... and I'm very glad for it... I believe He is a patient, loving and forgiving God and I'm not going to be the one to draw a specific line between salvation and damnation. I believe it comes down to a matter of the heart and some things will have to be left with God. All we can go by, as humanity, is what His revealed will is for humanity. When He says very specifically that homosexuality is an abomination before Him... I have to believe this is something He feels very intensely and uniquely about. Yes some Christians get out of control in judging the sinner as opposed to the sin, but let's remember He is a Holy God above all... even above His acceptance of someone. I hate getting caught in the middle of the "who's going to hell" debate, because it's not one we're really supposed to answer... Jesus Christ will someday be that judge and I pray and hope that He has more mercy than any of us could ever give. But if we're talking about what the bible teaches us... there are few ways around this issue.

I believe there is a difference between a moment of sin and a lifestyle of sin.
Do you believe someone is damned for being born homosexual?

When He says very specifically that homosexuality is an abomination before Him... I have to believe this is something He feels very intensely and uniquely about.
It's a little more complicated than that.

I do not believe anyone is born homosexual. The chemical levels are like everything else... theory. I do not believe it is more complicated than that. The bible is not complicated nor is His will for us. It gets complicated when we start to try and make it teach things it doesn't really teach. It gets complicated when we have to try and find ways around things to fit our lifestyles. THAT is when the bible can get confusing.

Hauntinghelper,

I'm so confident in the gospel of Grace , the blood of Jesus and the love of our Lord. When a believer really gets Romans 8... lives begin to change.

I too do not believe Christians should stay in a sin cycle. I also believe if they are taught the TRUTH... they won't. Some of us are really slow learners... but the Lord is longsuffering and he teaches us at our own pace.

I know you were talking to Dave, but I just wanted to state that I don't think God winks at sin and the gospel of grace doesn't either. It is just a process.

I do not believe anyone is born homosexual.
I'll remember to tell my homosexual friends and relatives that, that they weren't born that way.

(No, they do not choose to feel the way they do. How old were you when you chose to be straight?)

If being born a certain way is a "defense to Gods will" then a person who is born with no control to be a child molester must then be forgiven because he was born that way.

A person who is born with other chemical imbalance who goes on to be a mass killer, has to be forgiven since he was born that way?

But I am interested, you say it is a chemical imbalance, thus it is basically a "birth defect" ? If it is considered a imbalance why is there not study for treatment, testing of child and so on. If this was any other birth defect we would have a fund raiser for research

a person who is born with no control to be a child molester... was born that way... A person who is... a mass killer... was born that way
No, they aren't born that way. They became that way because of environmental influences.

If they honestly and sincerely repent, God will forgive them.

why is there not study for treatment
There are studies being done to determine possible causes -- biological as well as environmental.

Hauntinghelper,

you are entitled to believe that people are NOT born homosexual. :)

WG,

We are all born sinners according to the Bible. We all have a flesh nature that loves sin... does it matter what kind? It isn't about what we were born with... we are all in the same boat. We can't fix our sin nature. God did it for us... it is called being BORN AGAIN through the blood of Jesus Christ.

you are entitled to believe that people are NOT born homosexual.
Being entitled to believe that has nothing to do with the truth of it. Also, there's a difference between BEING a homosexual and LIVING as one.

WG,

We are all born sinners according to the Bible.
I never said we weren't. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

If being born a certain way is a "defense to Gods will" then a person who is born with no control to be a child molester must then be forgiven because he was born that way.

A person who is born with other chemcial imbalance who goes on to be a mass killer, has to be forgiven since he was born that way ??

but I am interested, you say it is a chemical imbalance, thus it is basicly a "birth defect" ? if it is considered a imbalance why is there not study for treatment, testing of child and so on. If this was any other birth defect we would have a fund raiser for research

It is about justifying sin. I can't help certain things because I was born like that. Hey! I will be the first to say, I was born with a sin nature that likes pretty much everything... (no! Not pretty much) but EVERYTHING that God hates. So? It is what I do about it. I can explore it, I can indulge, I can go with it but I can't fix it! I need to be born again... just like Nicodemous back in the gospel of John. That is the only remedy to any of it... just my thoughts

He is correct, it is more complicated. Personally, I don't believe that someone is "born" homosexual, but his or her life shapes him into what he or she becomes. I believe that everything happens for a reason. I do not believe in fate, but I do believe in His Will and what he has planned for every one of us. Maybe he does have something specific planned for me, and whether I go down one path or the other, I suppose I'm going to find out. So thank you all for the advice. :)

Being entitled to believe that has nothing to do with the truth of it.

The truth of what? What is it you are arguing? What IS the truth.

The truth of what? what is it you are arguing? what IS the truth.
You were the one arguing:

Originally Posted by classyT:
you are entitled to believe that people are NOT born homosexual.

I'm not sure what "entitled to believe" means.

We could perhaps further discuss some of this on a new thread in discussion or relationship,

The issue here is that it was posted in Christianity and most of all Christian faiths have declared homosexual relationships to be outside of Gods will.

There are a few socially progressive groups that have accepted it, and even call it a blessing from God. But then man has often written his own beleifs and religion to justify doing their own will. Or in churches to my belief get all of that homosexual dollar, in donations, so they sell out their teachings and beliefs for large donations. If you want, you can find almost any personal belief accepted in some churches.

But as for as this question, not only most Christian Churches do not accept it.

Go right ahead... you can give them my phone number as well.

He is correct, it is more complicated. Personally, I don't believe that someone is "born" homosexual, but his or her life shapes him into what he or she becomes. I believe that everything happens for a reason. I do not believe in fate, but I do believe in His Will and what he has planned for each and every one of us. Maybe he does have something specific planned for me, and whether I go down one path or the other, I suppose I'm going to find out. So thank you all for the advice. :)

I honestly don't know if people are born with one orientation or another. I think the evidence is pretty equivocal at this point. I do know that all of the gay and bi people I know seem to have some sort of "trigger" in their past, usually something parental, that has left a gap or need in the person and causes them to gravitate toward a certain gender. I've also seen testimony from people who claim not to have any such childhood triggers, so I don't know. But in the end, it really doesn't matter.

I was born with Attention Deficit Disorder. I have one of the most severe cases anybody has ever seen. The experts say nobody has all 20 of the criteria for determining it; they've never met me, because I do. The fact that I was born with it does not constitute license for me to be a chronic space case who never finishes anything, blurts out the first thing that comes to mind no matter who it hurts, and all the rest that goes with being an adult with ADD. I seek treatment. In my case, it's medication that gives me control of my scrambled brain. Enough research has been done on ADD that we have some clue about different ways to deal with it.

With the whole gay thing, nobody is exploring treatment because in current society, sex is the Great Sacred Cow and anything goes. Nothing is considered deviant or "abnormal" because western society worships sex. That's pretty much what it comes down to. But as my ADD suggests, being born a certain way doesn't mean that God is going to approve of acting on it. In fact, Romans 1 strongly suggests that same-sex attraction is part of the Fall. But I'm not about to go to the stake for that idea.

Jeremiah 29:11-12
11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. 12 Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you.

Yes, Needin', He does have a plan for you... and as described in the Bible it is a wonderful and perfect plan. But it is also a plan that has a catch to it. It's not a "live anyway you want to with a fairytale ending" plan. As you you admitted it is up to you whether you search out that plan or you do whatever you want. The way we find out what that plan is is by living by what we DO know. He doesn't have the same thing planned for everyone, but we all have the same foundation. Once that is established He will order your steps to where He wants you and needs you. I never once said this was an easy step or an easy choice and I'm sure this is a very tough thing to deal with... I'm not doubting that at all. Regardless of your path, don't think God stops loving you or gives up hope in you, but He is not going to FORCE His will in your life.

I'm having this internal conflict about choosing a "side." Hello N:

If it were me, I'd NEVER be part of an organization that damned me to hell. I don't know why YOU would either... If you're looking for this group to tell you that you're really OK, and you're NOT going to hell, you might as well learn how to fly.

However, that doesn't mean you have to do without. There ARE Christian congregations where you WILL be accepted for who you are. I'd find one.

excon

Hello N:

If it were me, I'd NEVER be part of an organization that damned me to hell. I don't know why YOU would either... If you're looking for this group to tell you that you're really OK, and you're NOT going to hell, you might as well learn how to fly.

However, that doesn't mean you have to do without. There ARE Christian congregations where you WILL be accepted for who you are. I'd find one.

excon

Ugh... who damned the OP to hell? Who is the "THIS" group you are referring to. Don't mess with me Exy... I'm a woman on the edge. The only Christianity I know is in the bible and it is the one I follow. It is all about grace, love and forgiveness. It has nothing to do with being damned and rejected. It isn't even about being good and following the rules.

I've already been accused of having inappropriate avatars this week... I'm NOT going to be lumped into an organization of disapproving, judgmental people just because I am a Christian. Being judged goes both ways... good thing I like you so good. You could have gotten a real lashing from me. ;)

Needing,
Don't let anybody tell you that you're damned. If you're really a Christian, then you are. We don't earn God's grace, we accept it. He offers freely and we receive when we trust him to save us. It's not about what you do, it's about Who you know. I suspect that the people who treat homosexuality as if it were so much worse than any other sin, are hiding something. God loves you just as much as he loves anybody else, and you're very important to him. Hang on to that and tell those people to go crawl back under their rock.

Dwash - let me say that I agree with your line of thought on the central issues raised in this thread.

As I see it, we are born sinners: we are selfish, vengeful, defensive, and want to win an argument just to be right which is pride. Anyone who is even partially alive to the trouble we cause as human beings in this world knows full well all that we are capable of committing... some of us are just a little more civilized in our ability to restrain our sinful tendencies but not doing wrong doesn't negate the evil desire present in our hearts.

I don't believe man will be condemned to hell because of sexual orientation but because of his refusal to bow his knee to his creator. When we say the only unforgivable sin is unbelief, it takes some additional unpacking to get at the heart of what that means. Basically, unbelief is a refusal to accept God... it is a refusal to see life from his perspective... it is a denial of his judgment of us to be sinners deserving of destruction... it is a refusal to adopt God's moral vision for life and choosing to rebel against God... it is a refusal to accept the outstretched hand of mercy that he extends to mankind.

Like dwash said, maybe some people are born with a proclivity towards homosexuality. But it really doesn't matter. The admonition we all have before us as human beings is to deny the flesh... to persevere in doing good. And that requires saying no to our fleshly appetites even though the urge is so strong and at times we succumb to those appetites. All of us have stories of sins that we are weak to fight against... those of you reading this who really knows himself/herself, you know your struggles. Homosexuality is just as real a struggle for people as anything else.

If we attempt to rationalize away our responsibility towards pursuing God's moral vision of what is right and fitting by saying that we are born a certain way, that is tantamount to excusing ourselves from pursuing goodness. The question we have to answer is, regardless of whether we feel we are born a certain way with respect to homosexuality, is it God's desire for someone to persist in it? I was born selfish... I struggle to be a giving person in my own life so that does that give me reason to persist in my selfishness?

People stop short of the real issue by saying that people are born a certain way, sexually... sometimes what they are really saying is that man has freedom to live his life however he wants to and that if there even is a God, who is he to tell us how we should live?

But that's me.

regardless of whether we feel we are born a certain way with respect to homosexuality, is it God's desire for someone to persist in it?
Being born homosexual means that is who he is, just like being born heterosexual means that is who he is. Neither term says anything about action, but simply speaks to identity. "Being born" a certain way trumps "choosing" a certain way. Sexual acting out in one of those two ways is a whole 'nother ballgame.

Or are you in the pray-away-the-gay crowd?

Being born homosexual means that is who he is, just like being born heterosexual means that is who he is. Neither term says anything about action, but simply speaks to identity. "Being born" a certain way trumps "choosing" a certain way. Sexual acting out in one of those two ways is a whole 'nother ballgame.

Or are you in the pray-away-the-gay crowd?

Ok, I see your point or at least how you put this together. No, I'm certainly not in the pray-away-the-gay crowd... I have friends who are gay and I don't feel the need to pray them away. I do not think of it as normal sexuality in the sense that you do but I can still see the person as something worth loving and respecting because that is expected by God, I believe.

I suppose it is a matter of fundamentals, here, WG. Your starting point is that being gay is not in violation of any human biology so naturally, you wouldn't think that God has any problem with it either? Out of curiosity, do you think the bible prohibits sexuality or is teaching us to embrace it?

I'm not being smart, I'm just trying to better understand your position. Plus, I respect you and wouldn't be trying to pick a fight with you so don't feel threatened by my question... I'm genuinely interested in knowing where you stand on this issue.

Needin,
Don't let anybody tell you that you're damned. If you're really a Christian, then you are. We don't earn God's grace, we accept it. He offers freely and we receive when we trust him to save us. It's not about what you do, it's about Who you know. I suspect that the people who treat homosexuality as if it were so much worse than any other sin, are hiding something. God loves you just as much as he loves anybody else, and you're very important to him. Hang on to that and tell those people to go crawl back under their rock.

So you agree then it is a sin, just that it should not be treated differently than other sins ?

So you agree then it is a sin, just that it should not be treated differently than other sins ?

That depends on what you mean by "it." Orientation? No. Behavior? Yes. And yes, I do not believe "it" should be treated differently than other sins.

I suppose it is a matter of fundamentals, here, WG. Your starting point is that being gay is not in violation of any human biology so naturally, you wouldn't think that God has any problem with it either? Out of curiosity, do you think the bible prohibits sexuality or is teaching us to embrace it?
You're still missing my point.

Being gay, however the person got that way -- from something that happened before he was born or because of something that happened during his very early childhood -- has nothing to do with acting out sexually, but has everything to do with his identity, who he is.

Say he is homosexual, but lives a life of chastity. Would God have a problem with that?

You're still missing my point.

Being gay, however the person got that way -- from something that happened before he was born or because of something that happened during his very early childhood -- has nothing to do with acting out sexually, but has everything to do with his identity, who he is.

Say he is homosexual, but lives a life of chastity. Would God have a problem with that?

That's more or less what I was saying. I make a distinction between orientation, regardless of how it came about, and behavior. However, I'm going to shift into Sir Nitpick persona for just a moment.

Sexuality is not identity. It is not "who he is." It's only a part, and a fairly small part at that. I have a real problem with people who define themselves and their identity by who they're attracted to. A person is SO much more than that. It's an aspect of identity, yes, but only one aspect. There are dozens, perhaps hundreds, more, and a lot of them are much more important than sexuality. Priests and nuns who choose a life of celibacy are not denying who they are. They are choosing to set aside one small aspect of their identity in favor of other aspects that they consider more important. I really respect them for that.

Okay, it's me again. I agree with Nitpick.

That's more or less what I was saying. I make a distinction between orientation, regardless of how it came about, and behavior.
If yer tawkin' ta me, dwashbur, I was responding to Jakester, not you. I should have addressed him at the beginning of my post. You and I were posting pretty much the same thing at the same time, thus we didn't see each other's post.

Sexuality is not identity.
I realize that, but was simply trying to make a distinction between "choosing to be" and "being." That seemed to be the stumbling block in this thread. He may also be a "people-person," a book lover, good with numbers, a fantastic cook, and afraid of dogs.

WG - I actually see it the way dwash sees it where a person's sexuality is not his identity and would make a distinction too regarding orientation and behavior. I don't think I could add anything to what he said regarding that so I'll just let his statement act as my answer to you.

Good day to you, miss ;)

WG - I actually see it the way dwash sees it where a person's sexuality is not his [total] identity and would make a distinction too regarding orientation and behavior.
Then all three of us are on the same page.

If yer tawkin' ta me, dwashbur, I was responding to Jakester, not you. I should have addressed him at the beginning of my post.

I knew that. I was just backin' you up :D

One can be an exceptional person and homosexual at the same time; I refuse to use the terminology 'gay' because it limits who they are in the eyes of others from how I see them as accomplished artists, friends, athletes and very caring loving individuals.

If my son came to me tomorrow and said he was homosexual, I would love him just as much as ever. I have often told him if he gets married and has children, I will move to Mexico so I won't have to babysit, so there you go, that would solve one of my problems ! But at the same time, I don't really know if his father is that open minded because he is dyed in the wool scottish catholic.

Tick

One can be an exceptional person and homosexual at the same time; I refuse to use the terminology 'gay' because it limits who they are in the eyes of others from how I see them as accomplished artists, friends, athletes and very caring loving individuals.

If my son came to me tomorrow and said he was homosexual, I would love him just as much as ever. I have often told him if he gets married and has children, I will move to Mexico so I wont have to babysit, so there you go, that would solve one of my problems ! But at the same time, I dont really know if his father is that open minded because he is dyed in the wool scottish catholic.

tick

My oldest daughter has already told me she's bisexual. I've let her know that nothing will ever change my love for her, and that she's my child regardless. But I've also told her that what she DOES is the important thing, so she'd better choose the straight lifestyle because I want some grandchildren! :D

I don't really know. This is something I struggle with. Some christians say yes and some say no. some people of both sides use Biblical quotes for their points. But if I ever get any physical side, that I will go to hell for my feelings than I'll pray for change and I pray to God to help me make the right decisions. It's hard though. Pray and if you receive any signs, pray.

Well, (a) If you're bisexual you can't choose to be gay, you're still going to be attracted to the same sex some of the time. So if you're not attracted to the same sex at all (well, 90% of the time), you're outright gay. And (2) if God is alive and present in the world, why are you asking these people? Ask Him. Don't ask a book (don't put any idols before God, that includes written ones.) Ask God, pray, and be open to answers you get.

I feel fairly confident that the answer will be no, you're not going to be condemned to hell for being what He made you. That is the answer given to me for years and years, it just took me a while to hear it over the noise coming from the church. There is love for you in the world God created , even if not here, not in these peoples closed hearts and minds.

But in the end, don't take my word for it. Ask God.

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, not in these peoples closed hearts and minds.

But in the end, don't take my word for it. Ask God.

No don't think we have closed hearts and minds, lamia, or you would not think so if you had read ALL of our responses.

Do you think these are all mindless answers?

I would like to truly hear your answer.

Tick

I've read all of the responses to Needing. Thank you, those of you who are encouraging and not judgmental of homosexuals and bisexuals, you are really living out God's love in my eyes. I struggle with sexual immorality everyday, all of us who aren't mainstream heterosexuals but love Jesus have and/or will struggle with this. Bisexuals have their choice of either gender but it's not so simple as, "what kind of body do i want to touch?" Bisexuals, from my perspective, are more attracted to the person inside the body, not just the exterior parts. Homosexuals are more limited in their options in the same way as heterosexuals, they are sexual with only one gender. I believe that whether we are born this way really doesn't matter, it is how we are now. It's hard, it's confusing. Some people condemn us and we condemn ourselves as well. I don't know much about the Bible, what I've read truly is a double edged sword where my sexuality is concerned. The Bible is pretty clear about sexual immorality, and something inside of me has always told me "No, don't look at girls like that". I tried to listen and I did until high school but I gave in physically and I still have impure thoughts often. I wonder if I'll make it to Heaven too. We'll all answer for what we've personally done. I hated myself for so long, for being this way. I didn't pray, cry, go to church or believe in God for several years. Why would God make me this way? Did he? Is he even real? I wouldn't accept God, and maybe somewhere deep down I hated Him. Let me tell you, God is so good he never stopped watching over me, while I pushed Him away as hard as I could. I didn't understand that he is there for everyone through all the rebelling, hurting, hating and ugliness. It's hard to know that you're not like everybody else, and I want to be. It would be so nice to wake up tomorrow heterosexual. It's not going to happen. Maybe my sexuality needs healing, I don't know if that's really what we need or if we need to live a life of chastity to please God rather than ourselves. Just don't pull away from God, I still do sometimes and it does not help anything. God loves you! Give yourself time to really understand you and your life and why things are the way they are. We all break God's laws, and He loves us anyway. I hope you find the answers that you are looking for. God Bless You

Needin, also keep in mind there is a difference between doing what you think(or want) is right and doing what really is right. Just because something is in our heart to do, does not mean it is OK.

Exactly. People are fooled into believing that just because it feels good or is in your heart makes it okay. This the power of Satan, the master of all lies!! He lies to us, tempts us ruthlessly and we believe it. It isn't just with sexuality, it is with any sinful behavior. We are born sinful, gay or straight, we are all sinners conceived in original sin. The love of God our Father giving his only son Jesus to die for us cleanses us from that sin.

These are difficult questions and you need to put them in the perspective of sin and grace. A persons sexual orientation is one thing and what God looks upon as righteous behaviour is another. The important factor is having a relationship with Jesus Christ and looking to him for leadership and salvation. There is no distinction between homosexual sin and hetrosexual sin, unrighteous relationships are all in the one category. All are capable of being forgiven with genuine repentance

The world has decided that certain things are permissible, that is not the Biblical view, if you believe the Bible is God's word you need to comply