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nindzha
Jan 31, 2007, 12:29 PM
I have a question.
I think I have a "gift" to see people on the inside who they really are.
I can feel their intetntions, I can feel what they are thinking I can see their week ponits, feel what they feel. And this feelings are really deep. Like I was in their body, methaphoricly speaking. For example I can feel every time when a girl likes me but I can see this on guys too and not few. I can know why people are saying some tings or why they act as they do. I can feel when they are hideing some things.
Don't get me wrong I am not a mindreader, I can just feel.
At first I thought my mind is playing with me, that I am making this up in my mind, but through time I saw that it is true.
Now it bothers me, if I should bring this up with the people I interact, I mean should I tell them their faults and explain things to them, should I tell them that I know how they feel towards some things. This is very hard becaue I would in some way embares them,
How would you feel if someone would tell you some things that were meant only for you to know, that where your secrets?
How would you react?
PS As I read this through I know it sounds strange probably some won't understand, but please try to answer the last two questions.
If someone has the same experiences please let me know thank you.
Andrew
RubyPitbull
Jan 31, 2007, 01:01 PM
How would u feel if someone would tell u some things that were ment only for u to know, that where your secrets?
How would you react?
I have never experienced what you are experiencing so I cannot tell you I understand completely what you are going through.
I can tell you that I would probably not like people telling me stuff about myself especially personal stuff that would embarrass me. My reaction would be to pull away from that person because it would scare me to have them know my secrets.
Just my personal view.
You may want to also post this under the spirituality or psychic section. Maybe someone else can give you a bit more guidance to explain what it is you are going through.
phillysteakandcheese
Jan 31, 2007, 01:27 PM
You have a gift. You now also need an ethical code of behavior for yourself.
You may have perceptions about a person, but that doesn't mean you should walk up to them and start berating them about "thier faults". You're not supposed to try and "fix" every man, woman, child, and animal that crosses your path. You might come across particular individuals though that you do need to stop and strike up a conversation with, and plant a suggestion about how they might be able to help themselves.
When you do meet and talk to someone, you probably want to be open and tell them you have paranormal perception and can "feel" things about people. Some people will have their interest peeked and ask you more, and really get into it with you, and it will develop your relationship skills. Others will give you a funny look and then decide they have to get away from you... And when that happens, you'll probably already know why they are trying to hide.
How you decide to handle this "information" is up to you. Developing a personal code of ethics will help you decide when you "need" to reach out to someone, and when you need to "lay back" and be an observer.
shygrneyzs
Jan 31, 2007, 05:01 PM
I have a gift too, my intuition tells me right off if the person is honest or not, can be trusted or not, is verifiable or full of baloney. There have been times I have ignored my intuition and tried to give the person the benefit of the doubt and have deeply regretted it. I also can see one's soul in their eyes and there are many times I wish I did not. As to their thoughts, I do not know it all the time, some people are better at masking than others. But I NEVER ever would consider coming up to someone and pointing out their faults and shortcomings. Not unless I want a punch in the face or called names and have someone storm off. It is like Philly said - you have a code of ethics to live by - we all do as human beings in all our relationships with others. How would you like it if someone came up to you and started in on your faults? Not nice.
nindzha
Feb 1, 2007, 06:45 AM
I can see this is realtive to the pearson, if soemone would come to me and told me what I am doing "wrong" directly, but in a nice way, I would be very glad and I am not jokeing.
In fact I very much wish to meet a sicnere pearson, who is capabel of "reading" people.
Why? Because I seek perfection.
And it is very difficult to judge yourself because you are not objective.
NeedKarma
Feb 1, 2007, 07:00 AM
There is no 'perfection' in people simply because everyone's perception of perfection is different. What you want to do reminds me of religious types who think I'm on the wrong path (because it's not the same as their path) and try to change me.
nindzha
Feb 1, 2007, 07:07 AM
A very very smart answer!
But tell me what do you seek in your life?
valinors_sorrow
Feb 1, 2007, 07:10 AM
What you are is called highly intuitive or empathic in my circles. I am also. I have learned over the years many things about it from trying different approaches. It can be both a gift and a burden. I think I know where most of this ability comes from and I am comfortable with that. I have learned I cannot prevent another's pain by warning them. I cannot prevent poor outcomes by telling what I know. I now realise my "knowing" is only half the equation -- that even more important is the "receptor"... the person who needs to be actually interested in this information.
It took me a long time to surround myself with people who are truthful to themselves and feel safe with my ability to "see" as far as I do. Some still like to call me psychic when I reveal the full effect of it - a term I disagree with. If I showed how this is to others too openly, I would scare people and I know that. I use my gift only when asked but those who do ask benefit greatly. I tend to gain a reputation wherever I go that you don't ask Val anything unless you want an deeply honest answer and that helps to edit out those who are not ready. But I built that reputation carefully, knowing people are more fragile than they like to appear. I mostly use it to benefit myself, my husband and our close friends who are very comfortable with it.
Having researched this for a long time. I have come to the conclusion that most people could be a lot more like this and choose in subtle, subconscious ways not to be. Its saddens me because we all would be better off with more awareness like this -- just look at my name to see some of that sadness. We live (atleast in the US) in a culture that has supported people being "asleep" and to our collective ruin too. But as the wise old saying suggested, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear-- that was, by the way, instructions as much for the teacher as it is for the student. Learn to use your gift to discern who is ready and be very very conservative in your offering to them. It still takes me some effort to keep my mouth shut in some circumstances, if that helps you any. LOL
PS - I disagree with your statement about lacking onbjectivity concerning yourself. That's called maturity and many non-empathic people have it too.
NeedKarma
Feb 1, 2007, 07:19 AM
A very very smart answer!
But tell me what do you seek in your life?Easy answer for me: I seek to be a good person to others, a good husband and a good father. I also seek new experiences to make life interesting, whether it's meeting new people, travelling to new places, etc. Life is as complicated as we make it.
I have met a lot of people in my lifetime so far and I can read people as well. I do not profess to want to change anyone but rather I make it a point to stay away (or aware) of the people with bad intentions. So I guess I use my skills for personal use.
nindzha
Feb 1, 2007, 08:39 AM
For starters let me say I am only 19 years old and so I am not experienced as you probably are.
If I understand you all correctly what you are saying is:
Mind your own buissnes?
But unfourtently I am a kind of pearson that can't sleep on that.
Why shouldn't I help if I have the resources to do that, deep inside is sense why but can you please explain in words.
Thank you
shygrneyzs
Feb 1, 2007, 01:09 PM
I answered your question in my post - here was your question:
Now it bothers me, if I should bring this up with the people I interact, I mean should I tell them their faults and explain things to them, should I tell them that I know how they feel towards some things. This is very hard becaue I would in some way embares them,
How would you feel if someone would tell you some things that were meant only for you to know, that where your secrets?
How would you react?
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I merely told you how someone might feel if you approached them just because you felt the need to point out their faults. And why I do not do that to people. For being so intuitive, you appear to lack some tact. I am telling you to develop some sense of propriety with your "gift". Your own statements about wanting to go and point things out to people are your own liability, not mine.
nindzha
Feb 1, 2007, 02:04 PM
I don't understand you at all.
Or you don't understand me.
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"I merely told you how someone might feel if you approached them just because you felt the need to point out their faults."
-I would never aproach with this things to someone who, I met the first time.
I was thinking about friends and people who I am closer to.
And not a stranger on the bus. :)
I would never aproach a friend with the reason to point finger at him and judge him like I am the god.
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"Your own statements about wanting to go and point things out to people are your own liability, not mine"
-Who is referring to you?
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"I am telling you to develop some sense of propriety with your "gift".
-I agree.
valinors_sorrow
Feb 1, 2007, 02:20 PM
For starters let me say i am only 19 years old and so i am not experianced as u probably are.
If i understand u all correctly what u are saying is:
Mind your own buissnes?
But unfourtently i am a kind of pearson that can't sleep on that.
Why souldnt i help if i have the resources to do that, deep inside is sence why but can u please explain in words.
Thank you
You can learn how to "sleep on that". Most young people need to learn some variation of this too -- appropriate boundaries come with maturity. Concerning the kind of help you are describing--- help that is not asked for is not help. You can actually do damage to someone with the best of intentions. Its really as simple as that. Perhaps you should pursue a degree in psychology?
RubyPitbull
Feb 1, 2007, 02:57 PM
V Sorrows wrote: Perhaps you should pursue a degree in psychology?
--That is an excellent idea that is worth your consideration! Nindza, considering the gift that you have, that would be a great idea. People would specifically be going to you for help so you wouldn't be telling someone something they don't want to hear or scare them (as it would me unless I asked for your help).
nindzha
Feb 1, 2007, 03:47 PM
You can actually do damage to someone with the best of intentions. Its really as simple as that.
I have heard this saying before. It is the answer I have expected.
But I don't understand it, can you eloborate.
Psyhology is something that I wish to study, but here in Europe you need a LOT of "points" to go and study psychology. Its equal to studieing medicine.
And I think I can't qualifiy. :(
The system got me.
I can see this is realtive to the pearson, if soemone would come to me and told me what i am doing "wrong" directly, but in a nice way, i would be very glad and i am not jokeing.
In fact i very much wish to meet a sicnere pearson, who is capabel of "reading" people.
Why? Because i seek perfection.
And it is very difficult to judge yourself because u are not objective.
That may be good for you. You may be able to take that kind of constructive criticism, but most people cannot. Many people would look at you as though you are crazy or even punch you in the nose. It is always best to keep your thoughts to yourself, unless you are in a position to discuss it. Such as a psychologist as Val suggested.
You say you seek perfection. Well, that is something that no one ever finds. In psychology is called Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. The first need is the basics, air, food and water. The final Need is perfection/self actualization. Many psychologists/psychiatrists have studied it over the years and have come to a current conclusion that TRUE perfection/self-actualization is unattainable. We will ALWAYS find at least one fault with ourselves.
So, until and unless you understand that perfection can not be 100% attained, you run the risk of hurting yourself mentally and/or emotionally.
I know I will probably get a disagree for that, but we just studied this in college class, Psych 211, last week.
IzzyWizzy
Feb 1, 2007, 04:31 PM
Hmm.. interesting dilemma. Well personally, I think you would make a great psychologist, but that's besides the point.
Well honestly, I would probably feel a little uncomfortable, but as long as you keep their secrets, and a good attitude about it all then I don't think people would feel thaat weird.. they would get used to it. After all, a gift as you seem to possess should not be wasted. =]
RubyPitbull
Feb 2, 2007, 02:37 PM
RubyPitbull wrote: You may want to also post this under the spirituality or psychic section. Maybe someone else can give you a bit more guidance to explain what it is you are going through.
I posted the above in my first response to Nindzha. Thank you Zorba. I was hoping someone would stop by this posting and give him something a bit more guidance than we could offer.
valinors_sorrow
Feb 2, 2007, 02:39 PM
When I read this thread over from the top, I hear Nindzha doing what is sometimes called "Yeah but" where you agree with the answers given but then argue against then by pointing out how what was suggested won't work. Doing that will make the conversation come to a dead end since you not only debating with those who are trying to help you but you are frustrating the person talking to you in the process.
If you are as empathic as you say you are, you would be in tune with all of that-- but apparently you are not. I suggest you focus on further deveoping your "gift" more since at this point you are your own worst enemy repeatedly saying things like yeah... but...
nindzha
Feb 2, 2007, 04:26 PM
Val I must 100% agree with you, truly.
I know.
As I was writing what I wrote I KNEW that someone will bring this up (I think we are very much alike.)
BUT I have so many questions in my mind!
Thank you all for takeing your time and energy in helping me with this issue.
I think that the sentence from Val "help that is not asked for is not help."
Is the most "close answer" for my question.
What I ll try to do, is not to look people any more, and only live my life.
And if somebody comes to me and asks for my opinion, I ll give him one.
That's it, and I ll try to stop worreing about how people live their lives.
Again thank you all for particepating in this thread.
PS: I have some more questions about things in life. The topic is spirituality and people.
If anyone is willing to answer any of this questions please let me know.
Regards
Andrej
ritac
Feb 4, 2007, 05:44 PM
I know what you mean. I also can FEEL people. I can tell when someone is about to go through something or if they are I can feel their pain. Right now at my job there is a lot of tension between management and some employees. There are also marital problems and of course money problems and I can feel all of their pains.
This is really draining me physically . I do not know how to separate myself from them emotionally.
As far as letting people "know about themselves". I would not go there with a ten foot pole unless I had total trust in that person and if I felt they really wanted to know.
JoeCanada76
Feb 4, 2007, 06:43 PM
I can read people, I can feel peoples emotions around me. I can sense things of people. It is draining physically and spiritually. There are certain people who are energy drainers. They feed off other people and make you vulnerable. Make you more susceptible to illness and disease because your energy is always being drained. They can be called energy vampires. The people who are most susceptible are people who are sensitive. People who can feel others emotions. We all effect each other in one way or another. We need to be able to learn how to shut it off and ignore other peoples energies especially the ones that are draining to you. We need to recharge because it takes a toll on your whole mind, body and soul. I keep myself private, keep myself quite and that is probably why I am able to see and feel exactly what other people feel or think.
So now, you say you have a gift. So I ask you from what I write and say. What do you pick up from me? What do you feel? What do you think? Please let me know. Post it on the board.
Thank you!
Joe
nindzha
Feb 6, 2007, 01:56 PM
First of all let me say I am shocked.
I am shocked because, you have written something, what was not really the topic.
What you had written I had on the back of my head all the time. It was like you answered the question that I was going to ask.
At starters when I had signed up on this forum, I had three main questions.
First was about general feelings towards people. - what I have posted
Second was this as you have answered me.
The third is something that I am not sure of asking.
I can feel this "vampires" and have also dreamed as such, vampires, like in a horror movie.
Tell me what made you wrote this, if it wasn't really the main topic?
For what I can tell about you is that you fellt me.
JoeCanada76
Feb 6, 2007, 03:49 PM
The reason why I wrote what I did is because I write what I feel and that is what I felt. Whenever I write anything, I do it with what I feel and see and I then put that on paper or write it here on the forum.
nindzha
Feb 7, 2007, 03:54 AM
Joe!
When you asked me about what do I feel towards you, let me tell that for me is harder to read a man, if I don't see him. Try posting your picture.
poppa0777
Apr 27, 2007, 11:05 AM
I have a question.
I think i have a "gift" to see people on the inside who they really are.
I can feel their intetntions, i can feel what they are thinking i can see their week ponits, feel what they feel. And this feelings are really deep. Like i was in their body, methaphoricly speaking. For example i can feel everytime when a girl likes me but i can see this on guys too and not few. I can know why people are saying some tings or why they act as they do. I can feel when they are hideing some things.
Dont get me wrong i am not a mindreader, i can just feel.
At first i thought my mind is playing with me, that i am makeing this up in my mind, but through time i saw that it is true.
Now it bothers me, if i should bring this up with the people i interact, i mean should i tell them their faults and explain things to them, should i tell them that i know how they feel towards some things. This is very hard becaue i would in some way embares them,
How would u feel if someone would tell u some things that were ment only for u to know, that where your secrets?
How would you react?
PS As i read this through i know it sounds strange probably some wont understand, but please try to answer the last two questions.
If someone has the same experiences please let me know thank you.
Andrew
You should mind your own business. Do not assert yourself in other people's lives, habits, problems, etc.
The reson I say this is because every human being is carrying around their own "excess baggage", meaning that our own individual faults and shortcomings are usually so many, that if we focus our efforts on improving self, we will have far less time and energy to be critical of others.
I hope this helps.
ritac
Apr 27, 2007, 11:35 AM
I would say... Say nothing to them about their faults after all everyone has them. But use it to your benefit as this will let you know how close you can get to someone.Or how far you can trust them. Just be careful because sometimes you can FEEL whatever they are dealing with and it can literally make you sick. For instance the other day a coworker who sits next to me got so mad at someone in the office and her blood pressure went up but it was me who went home sick.
This can happen when you care about the person . This is also a good them to have so you can SEE where they are coming from.
albear
Apr 27, 2007, 12:04 PM
I have a question.
I think i have a "gift" to see people on the inside who they really are.
I can feel their intetntions, i can feel what they are thinking i can see their week ponits, feel what they feel. And this feelings are really deep. Like i was in their body, methaphoricly speaking. For example i can feel everytime when a girl likes me but i can see this on guys too and not few. I can know why people are saying some tings or why they act as they do. I can feel when they are hideing some things.
Dont get me wrong i am not a mindreader, i can just feel.
At first i thought my mind is playing with me, that i am makeing this up in my mind, but through time i saw that it is true.
Now it bothers me, if i should bring this up with the people i interact, i mean should i tell them their faults and explain things to them, should i tell them that i know how they feel towards some things. This is very hard becaue i would in some way embares them,
How would u feel if someone would tell u some things that were ment only for u to know, that where your secrets?
How would you react?
PS As i read this through i know it sounds strange probably some wont understand, but please try to answer the last two questions.
If someone has the same experiences please let me know thank you.
Andrew
Yea I know what you mean; but don't tell people their faults its what makes them unique, I know you feel that you should but it is best not to, yes it would embarrass them but it could also bring on hostility towards you especially if they think that your inside their head. Its best to keep these feelings locked away, must be an andrew thing.
( does it happen when the person is speaking or writing or does it have to be a physically see them- read their body language type thing)
iscorpio
Apr 27, 2007, 02:30 PM
For starters let me say i am only 19 years old and so i am not experianced as u probably are.
If i understand u all correctly what u are saying is:
Mind your own buissnes?
But unfourtently i am a kind of pearson that can't sleep on that.
Why souldnt i help if i have the resources to do that, deep inside is sence why but can u please explain in words.
Thank you
I too have this gift, it is not a case of minding your own business, it is a case of respect, you have been given a gift and it will be for a reason and as you grow older you will realise why, cherish your gift and use it wisely, you could ruin someone's life by saying the wrong thing. I would never say anything unless asked, I always put myself in the others place and think, how would I like it? Well like others say, if you can not have your own thoughts within your mind that leaves you with nothing, everyone is entitled to privacy and that place is normally your inner self, it is not nice to steal someone's thoughts. Many times people say I wonder this and I wonder that and many times I have this knowing feeling, but unless asked then my feelings stay within me, is like if a psychic knows that something bad will happen to you or they foresee a death, there is a code of conduct and they just do not say, something's are best left unsaid. Take care love and peace anne x
poppa0777
Apr 28, 2007, 03:48 AM
Good insight. I like the part about not revealing unless ask. That is minding your own business!
nindzha
Apr 28, 2007, 06:53 AM
It has been a few months now since we were having this debate. Looks like someone dug it up.
What I have learned on this topic during this period, is that this is not a gift but merely some sorth of intelligence, higher plain. Everyone can develop it, looks like I had some predespositions. It is a mix of all the things you have mentioned albear and more.
It comes probably from knowing yourself, selfobservation and than of course the observation of others. With psychology and a little bit understanding of the universe you can read almost everbody. What I think is that all of the information that you want or need is in you. We just need to know how to read it. The same is with fortunetelling, the cards are only there to help to put the words out. You don't really need the cards.
About telling the person of what you know and going out on the open. Waste of time and energy. The true glory is in "reparing" yourself and not others.
albear
Apr 28, 2007, 09:01 AM
So is it a spoken/writen word or a physical appearance thing with you
gypsy456
Apr 29, 2007, 03:56 PM
I have a question.
I think i have a "gift" to see people on the inside who they really are.
I can feel their intetntions, i can feel what they are thinking i can see their week ponits, feel what they feel. And this feelings are really deep. Like i was in their body, methaphoricly speaking. For example i can feel everytime when a girl likes me but i can see this on guys too and not few. I can know why people are saying some tings or why they act as they do. I can feel when they are hideing some things.
Dont get me wrong i am not a mindreader, i can just feel.
At first i thought my mind is playing with me, that i am makeing this up in my mind, but through time i saw that it is true.
Now it bothers me, if i should bring this up with the people i interact, i mean should i tell them their faults and explain things to them, should i tell them that i know how they feel towards some things. This is very hard becaue i would in some way embares them,
How would u feel if someone would tell u some things that were ment only for u to know, that where your secrets?
How would you react?
PS As i read this through i know it sounds strange probably some wont understand, but please try to answer the last two questions.
If someone has the same experiences please let me know thank you.
Andrew
With this gift comes responsibility...
The responsibility to "filter" what and how you tell people...
Be careful.
The gift is a talent and should be used wisely...
Sometimes one has to sleep on it...
stephmichael1
Oct 4, 2007, 11:13 AM
Hi,
When I read your post, it was like reading my life story. I feel most of the things you describe, and also have felt that people are "temporary". That is the best I can describe it. Four of these people died. Scary,huh? Anyway, I'd love to talk to you. My email is
[email protected].
Steph
N0help4u
Oct 4, 2007, 02:53 PM
I am basically the same and no don't tell people unless you can tell they will take it to heart and gain something beneficial from it or it will further benefit your relationship with them or they need an understanding person to pour their heart out to. Often people will think you are trying to be controlling and/or ignorant and will not appreciate you. Or if they are a con artist or manipulative type they will be more cautious how they act around you so that they have a better chance to try and get over on you or so you do not warn others.
Like Gypsy says you have to 'filter', just like you wouldn't walk up to a lady in the grocery store and tell her that her hair looks like a mop just because you are 'honest' (and I have known people like that) you have to use the same wisdom of when and how to tell what situations are right.
cerisa
Oct 13, 2007, 09:02 AM
Has your gift been helpful in other ways? Have you been able to sense a really dangerous person and warn others ? Just wondering, there are wolves in sheeps clothing in this world.
pisceskerri
Oct 20, 2007, 06:16 PM
I have a question.
I think i have a "gift" to see people on the inside who they really are.
I can feel their intetntions, i can feel what they are thinking i can see their week ponits, feel what they feel. And this feelings are really deep. Like i was in their body, methaphoricly speaking. For example i can feel everytime when a girl likes me but i can see this on guys too and not few. I can know why people are saying some tings or why they act as they do. I can feel when they are hideing some things.
Dont get me wrong i am not a mindreader, i can just feel.
At first i thought my mind is playing with me, that i am makeing this up in my mind, but through time i saw that it is true.
Now it bothers me, if i should bring this up with the people i interact, i mean should i tell them their faults and explain things to them, should i tell them that i know how they feel towards some things. This is very hard becaue i would in some way embares them,
How would u feel if someone would tell u some things that were ment only for u to know, that where your secrets?
How would you react?
PS As i read this through i know it sounds strange probably some wont understand, but please try to answer the last two questions.
If someone has the same experiences please let me know thank you.
Andrew
I think that you may b a bit physcic or something do you only feel thing when talking to peaople or can you tell me what kind of person I am just by reading my reply? :)
nindzha
Oct 20, 2007, 09:47 PM
Sure I can,
You are a person who is very kind, and outfront, you have had a wonderlful life till now, but u seek something that is new. The new outfronts and new prespecitieves that will arise in you soon enoguh will be extraodrdinary.
UnAnaray
Dec 19, 2007, 04:05 PM
First of all I would like to tell you that I understand what your going through to a point... because I often can sense what people feel around me as well. I believe that there is no black and white answer to your question, It is your choice. If you think that the person might be in danger then I would confront them in a sensitive manor about what they are feeling. Or you could ask them a very open ended question that could lead them into talking about what they are feeling. Just remember that everyone is different and that you need to be sensitive to their differences as you try to help. It is gift that takes practice and a lot of care to be able to correctly use.
in a state
Jan 6, 2008, 05:06 PM
This is something
READ ME
What I have to share is... one day 6 years ago I was sitting on a park bench and this old man I've never met comes up to me and starts telling me things about myself that actually were true!he read right through me,my thoughts and my fears.I still remember this after all this time.it was shocking.
It didn't bother me,I was actually fascinated,but still,scared.you wouldn't want to do this with people you don't know or just met.share your gift with people who know you well.
But now read me :)