needachelp
Jun 26, 2011, 11:18 AM
Old GE motor (1/4 hp, 830 RPM, 208-230v) had 3 wires and was hooked to a 3 prong dual run capacitor (55/5 MFD, 370 VAC).
New Dayton motor (1/4 hp, 825 RPM, 208-230v) from Grainger has 4 wires and recommends a 2 prong single capacitor but since our unit was set up for the dual capacitor, we thought it would be okay to use a dual capacitor with same specs as the old one.
Motor calls for 2 prong 5 MFD/370 VAC run capacitor but we bought a 3 prong dual 55/5 MFD, 370 VAC run capacitor. The new motor has an extra wire (brown and white) and also has 2 sets of black and white wires that run to each other to select CW or CCW rotation. The diagram on the motor has a 3 wire option but it is for a 2 prong capacitor so we connected the wires the same way they were connected to the old capacitor and insulated the brown and white wire as suggested on the diagram. Since the black and white direction wires were not shown on the 3 wire optional diagram, we also disconnected and insulated them.
The compressor comes on fine and sometimes the fan motor comes on fine, spinning in the correct direction but other times the fan motor doesn't kick in at all until we spin it, and then other times the fan motors kicks in but spins in the wrong direction.? Any ideas?? We tried connecting the black and white wires in the way the diagram suggested for the direction we need but it still does the same thing. We paid $79 for an AC tech to come out and look at it. He checked and said the capacitor was the right size for the motor, the capacitor was good, the contactor was good, and everything was getting the volts it should so he couldn't find any reason the motor shouldn't be working right. His solution was that the new motor must be bad and he could order a new motor and install it for us for $616. We can't afford that and we already bought a new motor and would rather exchange the one we have if it is bad. The guy didn't seem too sure of his diagnosis anyway. He even said that the motor bearings may be tight and after a day or so of running it, it may start coming on by itself all of the time. It did start coming on 75% of the time without spinning it but sometimes it spins in the right direction and sometimes the wrong direction. Sometimes, it barely moves from one direction to the other for about 30 seconds (like it is stalled) and then it chooses a direction. Does this sound like a whacked motor or could it have to do with the capacitor? Can we not use a dual capacitor? I'm not sure where we'll put 2 capacitors if we have to have separate ones for the fan and compressor? Please help.
New Dayton motor (1/4 hp, 825 RPM, 208-230v) from Grainger has 4 wires and recommends a 2 prong single capacitor but since our unit was set up for the dual capacitor, we thought it would be okay to use a dual capacitor with same specs as the old one.
Motor calls for 2 prong 5 MFD/370 VAC run capacitor but we bought a 3 prong dual 55/5 MFD, 370 VAC run capacitor. The new motor has an extra wire (brown and white) and also has 2 sets of black and white wires that run to each other to select CW or CCW rotation. The diagram on the motor has a 3 wire option but it is for a 2 prong capacitor so we connected the wires the same way they were connected to the old capacitor and insulated the brown and white wire as suggested on the diagram. Since the black and white direction wires were not shown on the 3 wire optional diagram, we also disconnected and insulated them.
The compressor comes on fine and sometimes the fan motor comes on fine, spinning in the correct direction but other times the fan motor doesn't kick in at all until we spin it, and then other times the fan motors kicks in but spins in the wrong direction.? Any ideas?? We tried connecting the black and white wires in the way the diagram suggested for the direction we need but it still does the same thing. We paid $79 for an AC tech to come out and look at it. He checked and said the capacitor was the right size for the motor, the capacitor was good, the contactor was good, and everything was getting the volts it should so he couldn't find any reason the motor shouldn't be working right. His solution was that the new motor must be bad and he could order a new motor and install it for us for $616. We can't afford that and we already bought a new motor and would rather exchange the one we have if it is bad. The guy didn't seem too sure of his diagnosis anyway. He even said that the motor bearings may be tight and after a day or so of running it, it may start coming on by itself all of the time. It did start coming on 75% of the time without spinning it but sometimes it spins in the right direction and sometimes the wrong direction. Sometimes, it barely moves from one direction to the other for about 30 seconds (like it is stalled) and then it chooses a direction. Does this sound like a whacked motor or could it have to do with the capacitor? Can we not use a dual capacitor? I'm not sure where we'll put 2 capacitors if we have to have separate ones for the fan and compressor? Please help.