I would like to ask, how can I make my faith in God strong again? I still believe, and have faith, but I have a disorder that serves as an ailment to most of the things in my life. I suffer of paranoid schizophrenia. It makes it very hard to separate reality from fantasy, and makes many different hallucinations present. These two together have damaged my grasp on reality. I pray before I sleep, and attend church once a week on Sundays. But I cannot register my faith in my mind, along with most everything else. What I see in a movie may as well be reality (if you get what I'm saying). What can I do to make my faith strong, like it was when I was a child, again?
Thanks,
~Preston

Are you being treated for your medical condition.

I am. But only within the last month was I officially diagnosed, I'm not sure if the process is slow or not.

I am. But only within the last month was I officially diagnosed, I'm not sure if the process is slow or not.

One thing you can do is make your prayer life a constant thing. Once before you sleep isn't going to be enough to help you hang on. Make it like a conversation; talk to God in your mind about most everything. It doesn't require any special language or format; just talk to him. That's what I do; sometimes when I'm in a particularly big tailspin it might even include a few "off-color" terms. God doesn't care. A wise man once told me: God can answer a quick little telegram a lot faster than he can answer some of those long, drawn-out epistles.

When you're not sure what's real and what isn't, talk to the One Thing that you know is real. Hold on to that above all else.

This isn't a complete solution to your problem, but it can be a start.

Hope this helps,

Thank you for this great response. I will start praying more.

I am. But only within the last month was I officially diagnosed, I'm not sure if the process is slow or not.
Depending on which meds you are taking, it could take six weeks or more for it/them to kick in and help you feel better. And the first prescription might not work well, so that you will have to try another -- and even another! -- until you find the best one for you.

A good friend is paranoid schizophrenic. She does exactly what dwashbur suggests you do -- she has a continuous, running conversation with God. Don't worry about formal prayer with "Dear God" and "In Jesus' name. Amen" and getting down on your knees or folding your hands. Just whisper to God or think your thoughts His way. Talk to Him like you would to a friend -- complain about your doctor, moan about what you had for breakfast, high-five God for the beautiful day, be excited over a good grade and make sure He hears your excitement.

I wish you well. Be sure to stay in touch with us.

The lord knows what you are going through he knows where your heart is just keep doing what you doing prying and going to church he will make it easier on you

Another thing just as important as prayer is knowing what scripture says about you. Anyone can pray... but it takes it to another height when you know how to pray according to God's will. It helps to know what God says about you in His revealed Word. Prayer and the bible are a must for EVERY person. You almost can't separate the two.

when you know how to pray according to God's will.
And that is how?

How do you know what God's will for our lives is? By reading the bible. It is the revealed will of God toward humanity. That's how we know what God says about us. It is possible to pray wrong. The bible says that some prayers aren't answered because they are not inline with what His will is. We can pray all we want, but if it is contrary to or against what He wants to accomplish through us... we may as well not say anything at all. This aside... my point to the OP was that a more effective prayer life starts with knowing what God's word says.

How do you know what God's will for our lives is?
God's will for me is different from what it is for you?

Does a prayer have to follow a certain format?

Yes and no. Things like salvation or healing or deliverance... these can be applied to all of mankind. But he doesn't call everybody to be a pastor... or a missionary. This is where His will can differ from person to person. Why would a prayer have to follow a certain format?

I do have to say something about your comment above however. While we don't have to actually say "In Jesus' name...", it should be understood that by the name of Jesus is only way we have access to God the Father. That is why people pray in that manner. There is no prayer of salvation without Jesus Christ. There is no deliverance without Jesus Christ. There is no access to God apart from Jesus Christ. THAT is why it is important to pray in Jesus' name.

John 14:13-15 (New International Version)
13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

John 16:23-24
23 In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 24 Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.

James 4:3 (New International Version)
3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.

Although sincere, it is possible to pray wrong. I am in no way saying that Preston556 doesn't know how to pray. I just making the point that God's Word and prayer go hand in hand.

Why would a prayer have to follow a certain format?
I was wondering if you objected to the continual conversation with God vs. the formal kneeling, hands folded, head bowed, eyes closed format of prayer.

How do you pray wrong? I know you explained that a bit, but please elaborate.

Well, I like to follow what the Bible has laid out for us as an example the best.

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 (New King James Version)
16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

God can hear someone just as well whether they are on their knees or standing up, whether their eyes are open or closed.

I don't know... the best thing that pops up into my head for an example could be this.
Say someone wants to win the lottery and promises God to give a large amout to church, world hunger, etc. While seems great to us as humanity... God knows best... maybe He knows that the sudden large amount of money would destroy us... God knows we have example after example of this with people that do win tons of money. Something we can't foresee but He can. He knows we're better off without winning that money. Maybe God would know that we would start to relay on that money more than the person would rely on Him.
This is just an example off the top of my head... but I hope it sheds more light on the situation. Even Jesus prayed "not my will but yours be done..." If we are praying outside of what God wants to be done... it will not happen by His hand. That's why it is important to know God's will.

That's why it is important to know God's will.
But we can never fully and specifically know God's will for us. What if I buy that lottery ticket after praying hard for a winning one and then actually win? Did God allow me to win? If I don't win, did God make me lose?

I was part of a women's Wednesday morning Bible class, and we took turns watching all our pre-school kids. One day when it was my turn, a mother came in with her toddler and dug around inside her purse, looking for a little box of raisins she had packed for a snack for her child. The mother searched and searched, but couldn't find the raisins. Her comment (which she truly believed) was, "The box isn't here. God must not have wanted me to bring raisins and caused me to forget to put them into my purse."

Haha, well, I don't doubt that story to be true one bit. There are always going to be people that read waaaay to far into things and blame everything on God. There is still such a thing as dumb luck. Yes, if I play the lottery, I do have a chance, however small it is, to win it. Just because something does happen does not mean God always has His hands in it... like the raisin box lady. There is a difference between God allowing something to happen and God making something to happen. Most of what happens is God allowing something. Can we ever know the full will of God? Probably not... as we will always need to have trust and faith in His decisions. However, the Bible does reveal enough for to have a functional and close relationship with Him.

I believe the OP asked about how to strengthen his faith in the face of a very nasty disorder. That's why I suggested conversational prayer. I'm not sure how it happened, but somehow we got from that to raisins and lotteries!

Color me confused...

Indeed. Topics do manage to get off base every now and again. I hope the OP was able to follow our little conversation back there.

I believe the OP asked about how to strengthen his faith in the face of a very nasty disorder. That's why I suggested conversational prayer. I'm not sure how it happened, but somehow we got from that to raisins and lotteries!

Color me confused..........
Keep up, dwashbur! We went from how formal prayer has to be to throwing in God's will for us and how that affects how we pray. It all makes sense.

I didn't think we got too far off the path...

Keep up, dwashbur! We went from how formal prayer has to be to throwing in God's will for us and how that affects how we pray. It all makes sense.

Who? Wha? Huh? Where was I? Who was I? Keep up? What were were talking about? :confused::confused:

Who? Wha? Huh? Where was I? Who was I? Keep up? What were were talking about? :confused::confused:
Communication. It all comes down to communication. (Clear your PM cache, dwashbur.)

Sit back and relax... it will all be OK...

Hello Preston,
Allow me to relate an experience of someone related to me. This is a true account. Some years ago a Christian met this person who had been in a mental institution. He suffered for ten years from paranoid schizophrenia and his doctors told him that there was no hope of a cure for him. He was very unclean and unkempt in his personal appearance and was living outside the institution only because he was willing to take the required medication, which consisted of thirty-three pills each day.
This person was hard to deal with, yet the Christian minister saw he was sincere about learning about God and so he would sit and read the Bible with him. A Bible study of the scriptures was started where he learned about God's requirements and the wonderful hope of the blessings that will take place under Jesus Christ' rule. He soon learned that there would be no more sickness, no more suffering from paranoid Schizophrenia! Gradually this patient took an interest in his personal appearance. Then he quit smoking, and after eight months he was so improved in his condition that he was able to get along without any drugs. At the end of a year he was taken off the doctor's list, discharged as cured. He is still paranoiac Schizophrenic, but by means of his learning what blessings are in store for those who not only read the Bible but practice what they learn from the Bible. Gain a love of God's laws and even though it will not cure your sickness it teachs you how to cope with it.

I also know from my own experience that study of Bible and applying what it teaches has helped me in my sicknesses also. I have Spastic Cerebral Palsy, where my body shakes constantly. I have trouble eating and drinking because food and drink fall out of my hands because of the continuous muscle spasms. I also suffer from transverse myelitis, which put me in a wheel chair for seven years. I am no longer in the wheel chair but of course I still have Cerebral Palsy and this year I tore my meniscus which cartlige that separates the knee bones and is very painful.

I am telling you this because I want you to know I am very happy even though I suffer from health issues also. I used to hate God because I thought “If God loves me so much, why must I suffer from such sicknesses?” Then I learned that God didn't cause my sickness but the fact that we are all imperfect we will get sick. Then I learned the basic reason why men get sick and die is revealed in a remarkable promise God made to the ancient Israelites: “No resident will say: 'I am sick.' The people that are dwelling in the land will be those pardoned for their error.” (Isa. 33:24) It is here that sickness is connected with “error,” or sin. And freedom from sickness is related to the forgiveness of sin. That original sin Adam had caused by his disobedience to God made us lose our relationship with God. By Jesus death and by our obedience to God's laws brings us back into a personal relationship with God. Without faith in Jesus and love and obedience to God's law, we can not maintain any relationship with Gods.
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It is well known that certain diseases can be inherited, like paranoid Schizophrenia.
Similarly, sin, imperfection and death are inherited. “Through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.” (Rom. 5:12) The heritage Adam gave his children was an imperfect life with vulnerability to sickness and death. That is the basic reason why disease exists today.

Our obedience to God's requirements and our faith In Jesus and his sacrifice is what will help us to become free from sickness and death forever. My suggestion to you is:

Pray --- “Persevere in prayer.”—ROMANS 12:12.
Work in harmony with your prayer.
Read and study the Bible--(John 17:3) 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.

Apply what you learn----(James 1:23-25) 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word, and not a doer, this one is like a man looking at his natural face in a mirror. 24 For he looks at himself, and off he goes and immediately forgets what sort of man he is. 25 But he who peers into the perfect law that belongs to freedom and who persists in [it], this [man], because he has become, not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, will be happy in his doing [it].

Share something positive each day as you learn:
(Hebrews 13:16) 16 Moreover, do not forget the doing of good and the sharing of things with others, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.


Most of all pray for God's Hoy Spirit especially when your sickness gets the best of you. God gives strength beyond what is normal. (2 Corinthians 4:7) 7 However, we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the power beyond what is normal may be God's and not that out of ourselves.

(Philippians 4:13) 13 For all things I have the strength by virtue of him who imparts power to me.

I hope this is of encouragement to you and also helpful. Hang in there and tell God you desire to be closer to him. He knows what is in your heart but like any good parent, it is nice to hear what a child really wants being expressed. Remember, doctors can help but God is all powerful and he created us and knows just what you need.

Peace,

Hope12

Sit back and relax...it will all be OK...

Buuuuuuuurp! Okay, much better. HH, I agree that reading the Bible is an essential part of being a Christian and deepening one's faith, but, especially in the OP's case, it needs a plan. Just diving in somewhere like Jonah or Leviticus will do more harm that good because it'd be impossibly boring. I would recommend starting with continuous prayer, just talking with God about anything and everything. I've been doing a lot of that the last couple of days myself for reasons I won't go into, and believe me, it helps!

Oh I agree. I didn't really think I came off that way... implying that anywhere in the bible is just fine to dive into. It seemed the OP does have a Christian foundation, so I made the assumption that might be common sense to him. My original purpose with the prayer/bible comment was because he wanted to strengthen his faith. Since prayer was being talked about, I just thought I would mention prayer WITH God's promises. I never recommend to anyone just randomly opening the bible, pointing their finger and start reading. Sorry if my comments were confusing.

Oh I agree. I didn't really think I came off that way...implying that anywhere in the bible is just fine to dive into. It seemed the OP does have a Christian foundation, so I made the assumption that might be common sense to him. My original purpose with the prayer/bible comment was because he wanted to strengthen his faith. Since prayer was being talked about, I just thought I would mention prayer WITH God's promises. I never recommend to anyone just randomly opening the bible, pointing their finger and start reading. Sorry if my comments were confusing.

May have been my fault. It's possible I read your comments through my own assumptions about the OP. Sounds like we agreed and didn't know it. I can think of worse scenarios!