Hello:

Representative Peter King, Republican of NY has decided to investigate Muslim hate groups. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, there's over a thousand hate groups in this country, and not a Muslim group among them.

Why doesn't Congressman King investigate these groups (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map)?

excon

Trying to protect the Muslims from what... the fact they have been and ARE being recruited by terrorists? Its been proven. Nope not all muslims are terrorists... but most terrorists ARE muslim.

That's like Arguing the police are wrongly targeting street gangs for illegal activities. Because We all know THe Crips, THe Bloods and MS13 are really a misunderstood bunch of nice guys that never do anything wrong.



PS... I would REALLY like to see them investigate the NAACP and the Black Caucus as well as the DNC.

Don't you think it a bit strange that not a single Muslim group is listed ? What ? You don't think there are jihadist groups here recruiting American Muslims to wage jihad from within ?

One of the first witnesses to the committee will be Dr Zuhdi Jasser ,son of Syrian immigrants and American hero obtaining the rank of Lieutenant Commander in the United States Navy.
He will testify about the growing jihadistan threat here while at the same time pay tribute to the many loyal Muslim Americans .
Clearly this is a witch hunt.
Edit...
By the way ;you are wrong about there not being a Muslim group in their listing . They did manage to include the obvious one... Nation of Islam.Keep tuned in to the King hearings . It will open your eyes to the extent that jihadistan has already infiltrated .

What I found strange was there also was not a single gang listed in any areas yet they are one of the most active (known for killing on the streets) of today's modern threats to big cities.


http://ctgia.org/usamap.html

Excellent point...

Perhaps the King hearings will explore the nexus of MS-13 smuggling jihadists into the country.
Also Ex is correct in that the Ayran groups that are listed should get some investigation time also. They have a common enemy with jihadists in their hatred of Jews. If the link can be established it should be pursued .
What Congressman King contends is that there has not been enough of an effort to expose possible internal jihadistan activity .
Congress can waste their time hauling in baseball players to investigate steroid use. I think this is time better spent.

Hello again:

In THIS country, there's something ABHORRENT about investigating a religion. I have a feeling you'd think so too, if it were YOUR religion being investigated.

excon

But this isn't investigation of a religion . It is investigation of jihadists... political actors who have a political philosophy . In that they are no different than the organizations you said in the OP should be scrutinized .
The fact that they disguise their political creed in religious rhetoric should not give them special immunity . I would expect the same scrutiny given to any terrorist group attempting to use Christianity as a cover .

Don't you think it a bit strange that not a single Muslim group is listed ? What ? You don't think there are jihadist groups here recruiting American Muslims to wage jihad from within ? Hello again, tom:

Nope - not strange at all... If a CHRISTIAN group decided to make a web site and gather on the weekends to wear fatigues and shoot their guns in the woods, they'd be considered, by Peter King and you, to be God fearing American patriots... If MUSLIMS did that, they'd find themselves in Gitmo. So no, I don't find it strange that there are NO Muslim groups on that list.

That doesn't mean I believe there's no recruiting going on. I'd have NO problem with an investigation into home grown terrorism. But, Peter King said, “The threat is coming from the Muslim community... Why should I investigate other communities?”

I've said on many occasions, that the things we do, ostensibly to COUNTER terrorism, do exactly the opposite. They CREATE more terrorists... The narrative in the Muslim world is that the US is at war with Islam. What Peter King said above is proof of that.

excon

King is correct. Or perhaps you think the guy who shot up Fort Hood and tried to bomb Time Square is a skin head.

King is correct. Or perhaps you think the guy who shot up Fort Hood and tried to bomb Time Square is a skin head.Hello again, tom:

If you looked at terrorism with blinders on, you'd only see the Fort Hood guy, and you'd say what you said...

But, if you took the blinders OFF, you'd see that Jerrod Loftner wasn't a Muslim. You'd see that the guy who flew his plane into the IRS building wasn't a Muslim.. You'd see that the Muir Office building in Oklahoma City wasn't blown up by a Muslim.

If you don't want to look there, and you only want to look at Muslims, it LOOKS to the world, like you're at war with Muslims.

excon

What is the common ideology of the 3 incidents you mention?. none.

Stack’s claimed a personal persectution against him by the IRS. McVay was pissed off about the Branch Davidian raid by the Clintoons. Loftner... I still can't figure out his beef with his incoherent rants.

I can point to many other attacks in the US that all tie in neatly to domestic and external jihadist attacks on the US . Therefore the threat is real and it is incumbent for the Homeland Security Dept to investigate the linkage.

What is the common ideology of the 3 incidents you mention? ...none.... Therefore the threat is real and it is incumbent for the Homeland Security Dept to investigate the linkage.Hello again, tom:

Couple things.

The three attackers were white, American, and Christian... Looks like an investigation just WAITING to be launched there... Not enough links for you, huh?

I wholeheartedly agree with you, and I don't deny the threat. Homeland Security Dept needs to investigate the linkage...

Uhhhh, that's NOT the same as holding a public hearing.

excon

Peter King as Chair of the Committee has a responsibility to makes sure that Homeland Security is doing the proper job.

As I already stated ;the public will get to hear all sides of this issue during the hearings . Besides Dr Zuhdi Jasser ,others to testify will be
Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim to be elected to Congress ;and
Los Angeles Sheriff Lee Baca, who has supported the Council on American Islamic Relations and other Muslim groups.
Rep. Peter King's U.S. Muslim Radicalization hearing: Witness list here - Lynn Sweet (http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2011/03/rep_peter_kings_us_muslim_radi.html)

It will be a balanced hearing and will demonstrate both government transparency ,and the checks and balances that our Constitutional system mandates.

Hello again, tom:

Nope - not strange at all... If a CHRISTIAN group decided to make a web site and gather on the weekends to wear fatigues and shoot their guns in the woods, they'd be considered, by Peter King and you, to be God fearing American patriots... If MUSLIMS did that, they'd find themselves in Gitmo. So no, I don't find it strange that there are NO Muslim groups on that list.

That doesn't mean I believe there's no recruiting going on. I'd have NO problem with an investigation into home grown terrorism. But, Peter King said, “The threat is coming from the Muslim community..... Why should I investigate other communities?”

I've said on many occasions, that the things we do, ostensibly to COUNTER terrorism, do exactly the opposite. They CREATE more terrorists... The narrative in the Muslim world is that the US is at war with Islam. What Peter King said above is proof of that.

excon

Im not so sure about the analogy that's being said here. Direct from the site you posted.

Christian Identity | Southern Poverty Law Center (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/christian-identity)

Hello again, dad:

I don't understand your point.

But, let me ask you this. What if a Muslim testifies that he's NOT going to discuss his religious or political views. Is he to be arrested? Are political views on trial? Is he not allowed to practice his religion WITHOUT government interference? What if a Muslim testifies that he IS a radical, and he BELIEVES in jihad. Do we arrest him for what he believes?

excon

Hello again, dad:

I don't understand your point.

But, lemme ask you this. What if a Muslim testifies that he's NOT going to discuss his religious or political views. Is he to be arrested? Are political views on trial? Is he not allowed to practice his religion WITHOUT government interference?? What if a Muslim testifies that he IS a radical, and he BELIEVES in jihad. Do we arrest him for what he believes?

excon

You can't arrest someone for their beliefs. Only for their actions. This isn't Tom Cruize in Minority Report and there is no thought police. But if someone claims aliance to something that can cause great harm then I believe they should be watched. Its along the same lines as restraining orders. The thought being that there is a line to be crossed that is invisible. The only time the action can be taken is when it is crossed and not before. We can only tolerate so much premtiveness before we start crossing constitutional lines. Lets face it we are all monitored at some point for something. Not that we are doing something illegal but based on the fact that we may be at some point. Red light cams, Video cams everywhere and the list goes on.

Once a danger is recognized then it must be aknowlaged no matter the source. From there it's a matter of monitoring it and managing it by the flow of information. Free speech and all the free rights we like to think are free come at a cost and many of our service men and woman have paid the unltimate price. Its up to us as a society to safeguard things in their absence.

Ex .For the record . You said that a similar group would be a group Peter King and I would say are God fearing American patriots.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Based on their web site I condemn them in the strongest possible terms ;and would expect all God fearing ,patriotic ,Christian Americans to do the same... just as I have done with the Phelps cult .

I don't see any environmental groups listed, which as I recall have been responsible for most domestic terrorism for quite some time. Why aren't they listed?

I don't see any environmental groups listed, which as I recall have been responsible for most domestic terrorism for quite some time. Why aren't they listed?Hello Steve:

Yeah, where's Green Peace? They're full of Muslims aren't they?

excon

What about NPR ? Clearly they are a hate group .

What about NPR ? Clearly they are a hate group .

Yes... and here is the video proof that it goes all the way to the top there.

NPR executive calls Tea Party supporters 'racist' - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2012 Election - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/03/tea-party-secret-video-npr-funding-/1)

Particularly since they are required to be neutral as part of the conditions of receiving federal money all these years.

Its not been a secret of their left wing bias even though the left has denied it over and over... finally its on video and it can't be denied any longer.

I thought his anti-Jewish speech during the interview would clearly get NPR listed along side all the other 'right-wing 'extemist groups in the SPLC cite .

I thought his anti-Jewish speech during the interview would clearly get NPR listed along side all the other 'right-wing 'extemist groups in the SPLC cite .

Just proves that place isn't interested in being fair... or being honest. Just like every other left leaning outfit I know of.

Incidentally... LIke ACORN... that one video isn't all there is. There is more than that which will be coming out in the days ahead.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/okeefe-npr-videos-muslim/2011/03/08/id/388789?s=al&promo_code=BD36-1


Personally I can't wait to see these pompous blowhards finally take a fall after sucking on the public tit all these years.

Hello Steve:

Yeah, where's Green Peace? They're full of Muslims aren't they?

Greenpeace terrorizes the Japanese.

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Hello again,

I agree with all of you that all these groups need investigating, including NPR.

NONE of that, however, changes the absolute WRONGHEADEDNESS of Peter Kings committee. Besides, didn't Peter King support the terrorist group, IRA?? He DID, didn't he? How would he know what a terrorist is? He LOVES terrorists. Couldn't you find a better person to do this?? This is suicidal, wingers... But, go for it.

excon

It's a funny thing. An Investors Business Daily editorial yesterday complained that King wasn't going hard enough ,complaining about the list of people testifying .

Rep. King: Don't Pull Any Punches - Investors.com (http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=565369&p=1)

As far as Pete King's defense of the IRA... I disagree with him . But that is completely irrelevant to this discussion. The IRA's terrorist past is for a nationalist movement that has never been a threat to the U.S. To my knowledge they never exported their terrorist activities to target anyone other than the Brits.

Jihadist are international and attack many peoples in many countries ,and have often attacked American here and abroad.

Nothing wrong with investigating Muslims groups when Muslim groups are responsible for most terrorist threats against the USA.

Would it make more since to investigate UNICEF instead? You look where the problem exists. Not where it doesn't.

If you want to bust Crack Dealers... looking in crack houses is a good place to start... not Day care centers.

A catholic jihadist investigating muslim jihadist?! Only in America.

There are no crack dealers in crack houses. Just crack users.

So... the new lefty term for drug dealer is Drug user? Then what do they call drug users now Phamacists? You don't have crack houses where there aren't any crack dealers. THey aren't going to take there bus or cab to get to the crack house.

Naw the crack dealer is down the street at the corner, they stay out of crack houses because that's the first place the cops go.

Now the high class dope dealers are in the burbs, they don't have to visit dope houses either. Why, because when snorters get together they call it a house party. Music, booze, and loose women. Remember sex, drugs, and rock and roll?? Cops never bust them.

Sorry I was off topic, this is about violent nuts ain't it? Like the guy that shot those people in Arizona, after buy an Uzi or something from Walmart?? Oh sorry wrong religion!
Well how about the real dope dealer shooting up the cops and their rival dope dealers, oh wait wrong religion again, geeez I guess all that matters is who you are scared of and why.

Naw the crack dealer is down the street at the corner, they stay out of crack houses because thats the first place the cops go.

Now the high class dope dealers are in the burbs, they don't have to visit dope houses either. Why, because when snorters get together they call it a house party. Music, booze, and loose women. Remember sex, drugs, and rock and roll??? Cops never bust them.

Cops been to more than a few parties I was at I'm my youth... but they didn't bust anyone. Though we did have to explain to the officeres why one loud drunk guy was handcuffed to the railing in front of the house one time at 2am.

THey weren't too keen on the idea until we explained that it was to keep him from driving away until he sobered up because he was REALLY insistant he was driving home when he could barely stand up. The police calmed down after we explained that. THey even forgot I dodged their question WHERE I got the handcuffs from in the first place to lock the drunk up (yeah they WERE real police issue)

Its okay to do dope, and drink in the burbs, but its illegal in the cities. Its always been like that even though most of the dope is in the burbs. Thought you knew that?

Anyway for a terrorist to be heading an investigation against other terrorist, and not himself, is absurd. For him to draw distinctions is even more ridicules.

Really... any proof he is a terrorist... I know Democrats think anyone to the right of trotsky is a terrorist. But there is ZERO indications HE is a terrorist.

And Muslims when THEY are the greatest source of terrorists in the world today... SHOULD be investigated.

Perhaps people of Italian Descent should be given a free pass on MAFIA investigations as well.

Or the KKK and White Supremacist groups should be given a free pass anythime someone claims a hate crime against a minority.

NOT investigating Muslims in relation to Terrorism cases is not any different than doing any of the previous mentioned examples.

Still waiting for the example of an attack on the US by the IRA .

Hello tom:

You're right. In a twisted right wing sort of way it's logical. They didn't attack us, so they can't BE terrorists.. Besides, they're white and Catholic, just like Peter King is, so that PROVES it.

I'm sure the victims at the Burmingham pub bombing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_pub_bombings) will be pleased to learn this wonderful news.

excon

King is in charge of the Homeland Security Committee... that means it is proper to hold committee meetings assessing the threat of terrorist of attack on America . The IRA poses no such threat.

All this stuff about the IRA is deflection from the issue.

You want to know the 'right wing' response? President Bush took care of that when he refused to invite Gerry Adams to the White House. He told him he was no longer welcome .

Did he as leader of the IRA visit the White House ? Yes ,when President Clintoon invited him. He did that over the Brit's protest and after Adams Visa had been denied for 20 years. Then in 1994 the terrorist leader of the IRA visited the White House under the beloved President of the people who are giving criticism to King.

Oh yeah.. Gerry Adams the terrorist leader also attended Obama's inauguration.

Sen D*ck Turban is going to hold counter-hearings aimed to prove that Muslims are an oppressed minority in the US . (Scheduled for March 29)State Politics and Political News | The State Column (http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/sen-****-durbin-pushes-for-muslim-civil-rights-hearing/)

In 2009, the latest FBi statistics available, anti-Islamic hate crimes accounted for 9.3 percent of the 1,376 religiously motivated hate crimes recorded. The most oppressed religious minority in the US?. The Jews (70.1 percent of hate crimes reported ).Looking forward to the American hearings addressing this pogrom.

I think D1ck Durban needs to be checked for diminished mental facilities due to advanced age.

The mans brain isn't firing on all cylinders.