Hi, I was staying in an accommodation near university, and it closed down.. my parents wouldn't let me live near the univresity, and I'm not that organized, so in my final year, they paid for a place away from university it was my grandfathers money


So, I didn't bother going there because I didn't want it, it was totally wasted. And I've got no degree now. My grandfather has left my mother a lot of money that's how she threw money at a flat I didn't want

If I had a degree I could get a reasonable job. They pulled the rug under my feet in my final year. Is there any way I can sue my mother?

I told them I'd tell him what they/she was doing, and they told me not to tell him because I wasn't meant to know he was paying. He liked to be like the righteous man paying when nobody knew it was him. They manipulated me really.


His memory was going in his old age, sometimes he got frustrated when I spke to him, he said I should have told him, then when I told him they told me not to, he was angry with them but never spoke to them about that. One time he came round and I asked my parents about it in front of him, and my mother completely admitted that she just got that flat I didn't need to get me out of the house not to get me the degree. My grandfather was silent.


He paid for me to go to secondary school too

But he gave money to my mother to pay for it.

The situation has caused me to become depressed, and even going for a job interview would be a nightmare because I have to relive it explaining them why I don't have a degree. And without a degree, salaries are so much less.

Grow up and get a life... its YOUR problem, not your mothers. Once you are 18 be thankfull for ANY help you do get. Its not required and she has to think about her old age.

If you have issues... take ownership of those issues... deal with those issues, get treatment for those issues, but don't try to blame others for those issues.

You want to go to college, get a loan... get a grant... get a job... thats your problem to pay for it. Not your mothers. You are an adult not a child.

I paid for my own college education because my parents couldn't. I never pitched a fit over it. As an adult you assume responsibility for your own life.

If you get help be thankful... if you don't... then don't blame others. Its only ONE stinking year... grow up and get a loan.

I paid for the entire thing. You can pay for one year.

Yes, you are a jerk and need to grow up, you mom did help you by getting you the flat, so it was not the one you wanted and you would have to commute, big deal, You are the one to blame,
You want to live close, get a job and pay for it,

Listen. If my parents couldn't afford it and said so then I'd either not have gone, or I'd have paid myself and tried to do it that way. But that wasn't the case. And if my parents could afford it but refused, and I'd have known in advance, then I'd have either not gone, or worked and gone. But this situation was one where they gave me the impression that I was covered, and then pulled the rug from my feet. I would have preferred to know in advance and then make a decision either not doing the degree, or trying to do it while working.

I am slightly autistic and not organized and it's not so easy to manage a job and a degree. The flat was very near home anyway so I didn't bother moving into it, I stayed at home and commuted from there. But it was harder for me when living far. I couldn't manage myself properly that far away. If I had known my parents would do that then I'd have either not done it, or worked prior to starting the degree.

Your parents AREN'T required to foot the bill for everything you want to do as an adult.

And they don't have to justify it. Besides... if you've never been on your own and was self supporting , then you really aren't in a position to judge what they can and can't afford.

Besides... taking ownership for your situation is part of being an adult... and it builds character, something you clearly need to do more of.

Big deal... you didn't know in advance... so go down to the bank... and take out a student loan to pay for the final year. Might take a few weeks at most.

And as an adult... again... you are respopnsible for everything. You aren't 12 anymore. Being mature means you think about these things. NOBODY is responsible for you now, but you.

Like I said before... You are an adult... as an adult YOU are responsible for your own life. Nobody can pull the rug out from under you as an adult... because its your responsibility in the first place. Not theirs. And any "HELP" you might get as an adult, will have conditions... and it can end at any moment. NOBODY is obligated to foot your bills as an adult. Be thankful for any help you get.

Sucks huh?. well, welcome to the real world, and being an adult. There are Billions of others in EXACTLY the same situation. Time to get away from the tit and take care of yourself. Starting with this.

So I guess you needed to talk to your parents, and most likely your attitude is part of the reason they will not help you any more.. Yes, if you don't finish school you have one person to blame, YOU, no one else.

I am not passing blame, just explaining the situation. My father refuses to discuss it, and paid 1 year of rent for a flat I didn't want. It was my grandfather's money not his so maybe it didn't mean much to him. I tried to speak to him constantly One time /i spoke to him and he had tears in his eyes and said he was worry about what happened.. and that he made a mistake, but it's like that discussion never happened.. now he just says he doesn't make mistakes, and he refuses to discuss it. He won't even take a question like why he did what he did, he says he can't answer it he doesn't remember now. Even at the time when I was desperate and asking him he'd always say he's watching the football or he's eating his dinner. But this is all irrelevant. And this thing you bring up about throwing blame around all on me for example, is childish, and irrelevant.

Are you KIDDING me?

YOU aren't organized, so it's your parents' fault you didn't finish your degree?

How about getting off your butt, going back, and finishing your degree NOW?

Seriously--grow up. My parents couldn't pay for college either. I am STILL paying off student loans almost 20 years later. Just because you didn't get to live where you wanted to doesn't give you the right to blame your parents.

It is YOUR fault you didn't finish college. If you tried to sue your parents for this, you'd be laughed out of court.

Time to grow up. Have you ever heard the term "never look a gift horse in the mouth?" Apparently not.

In REAL life we don't always get what we want, but have to be happy with what we have.

It's no wonder your parents won't front you any money. They tried to help you by paying for a flat for a year and you were such an ungrateful little brat you didn't stay there.

So you want to sue them for the bad choices YOU made in life? Really!

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I am not passing blame, just explaining the situation. My father refuses to discuss it, and paid 1 year of rent for a flat I didn't want. It was my grandfather's money not his so maybe it didn't mean much to him. I tried to speak to him constantly One time /i spoke to him and he had tears in his eyes and said he was worry about what happened.. and that he made a mistake, but it's like that discussion never happened.. now he just says he doesn't make mistakes, and he refuses to discuss it. He won't even take a question like why he did what he did, he says he can't answer it he doesn't remember now. even at the time when I was desperate and asking him he'd always say he's watching the football or he's eating his dinner. But this is all irrelevant. And this thing you bring up about throwing blame around all on me for example, is childish, and irrelevant.


Childish... have you actually read what YOU have wrote? You are whining and complaining because someone isn't paying for YOU to live where YOU want to live... or for all four years of school.

Big freaking deal... I spent 3 hours a day on a Greyhound bus round trip (hour and a half each direction) to go to college... You can hop a bus across town.

Too bad... you have a place to live... stop crying about it. Or pay for your own place. THere is no RIGHT to live next to party Central. You went to college to learn... not attend every party they have near campus.

YOU don't make demands of your parents... and its clear they are so fed up with your whining about what your entitled to they won't speak to you (I wouldn't either).

THEY didn't have to do anything once you turned 18. Be thankful they gave you what they have and stop whining about it not being enough.

You are an adult... if you want something then get a damn job and pay for it yourself like everyone else has to do.


Oh right... that means work. Like I said, welcome to the real world.

You have major adjustments to make, NOW. Ever hear the quote " You have champaign tastes but a beer budget"? Look it up. It so very much applies to you.

I really want a Porshe Cayman, but know what... nobodies going to give me one and I can't afford it on my salary, so I guess I have to do without one. What a novel concept. Earning what one gets.

I'm surprised they don't teach that in schools.

Listen, If you went to a doctor and got bad advice, but they did the best they could, then within reason, I think, you should accept it. And you t least share responsibility for taking the advice, you could have enquired elsewhere. And if it was bad advice you could have found it. Getting a second opinion, or researching about diseases. Though some things you can't do much about. One can learn to accept the drudgery of living in all manner of terrible situations, one way is to drop hope. But the fact is that quality of life suffers. This obviously bothers people that slip and have an accident, or take bad advice from a doctor, or get hit by a reckless driver when they cross the road. Also, I don't know why you think I should have moved into the flat , The flat was no help to me getting the degree, so why should I have stayed there? I was in the same boat staying at home and commuting, and I did.

What do you think the justice system is for ? People are wronged, and the justice system can sometimes allow for that wrong to be somewhat corrected. The person that is wronged describes it, you call it "whining" because you are childish. And this is not some small thing. People carelessly slip on a slippery floor and don't know how to fall properly and they hurt themselves and sue, I think they should've noticed the floor was slippery, but maybe some minds aren't capable of that. If it was me, I wouldn't sue in that situation because I'd put it down to me being careless. By your logic you could call anybody's case "whining". That's not how the justice system works, you should know that better than me.

You weren't wronged in any way, shape or form. You made decisions now you have to live with the consequences of your decisions.

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What do you think the justice system is for ? People are wronged, and the justice system can sometimes allow for that wrong to be somewhat corrected. The person that is wronged describes it, you call it "whining" because you are childish. And this is not some small thing. People carelessly slip on a slippery floor and don't know how to fall properly and they hurt themselves and sue, I think they should've noticed the floor was slippery, but maybe some minds aren't capable of that. If it was me, I wouldn't sue in that situation 'cos i'd put it down to me being careless. By your logic you could call anybody's case "whining". That's not how the justice system works, you should know that better than me.

What a pompus ***...

Grow up crybaby... I have an 8 year old Nephew that shows more maturity than you have in this thread. YOU are the only childish person posting in this thread.

YOU aren't entitled to a free ride in life, PERIOD, END OF STORY, EVER... get a damn job and grow up. YOU are an adult... You get a job and pay for what you want, or you do without.

You can't sue because someone didn't give you something you aren't entitled to in the first place. Where in the hell did you ever get the idea you could.

Are you really 14 and telling lies about the rest... because NO way could someone so clueless have made it through three years of college.

Someone NOT paying your rent in a place YOU demand, or paying for YOUR college has NOTHING to do with slipping on a floor.

God, grow up and stop whining... its no damn wonder your father and grandfather won't talk to you. And cut you off.

Christ... I suppose you are upset you have to do your own laundry too?


I'd be surprised if your parents don't end up disowning you, changing the locks, or moving and not telling you where.

You could say the same thing about somebody that crosses the road and gets hit by a car. They made the decision to cross the road, and they have to live with it.

I think you should sue, and come back and tell us all what happened.
Maybe your mother will countersue just to make it more interesting.
After all, you wasted her inheritance on both schools so far.
And why did you let your parents go looking for flats instead of finding one yourself?
'Disorganized' enough to not do any of this bur organized enough to pass some years of college?
'Slightly autistic' is an excuse for... what exactly?
If you have Aspergers, say so, and maybe apply for disability. You do sound out of touch with how life works.

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You could say the same thing about somebody that crosses the road and gets hit by a car. They made the decision to cross the road, and they have to live with it.

Are you on drugs? I have to ask because you make no sense whatsoever.

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if I had a degree I could get a reasonable job. ...

Not necessarily. I wish it were that simple.

I think this is really a Troll, because NOBODY is that stupid, that arrogant, and that clueless.

Yes I am disorganized enough not to do any of those things I find them very hard. But I was organized enough to get through the 2 years of college where I lived near there. Quite simple how that is so. I had to get to enough exams. I'm barely organized enough to manage a shower without a fiasco. I do have aspergers and I'm trying to get organized to deal with that and apply for disability, there is much to fill out, but I'm not asking about that, and that's entirely my fault that I haven't sorted it out yet.. there are organizations offering advice that are very good.

And why is everybody responding as a new answer instead of just in the comments section?

Yeah right.. You say it's my decision I have to live with the consequences. I say by that logic, a guy that crosses the road and gets hit by a car also made the decision to cross the road and has to live with the consequences. If you say that that reply doesn't make sense then I think you're lying.

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And why is everybody responding as a new answer instead of just in the comments section?

Because that's how you are supposed to answer. You aren't supposed to use the stupid comments feature for follow ups.

If somebody has just come out of university and somebody else with the same knowledge has, and one has a degree and one hasn't, then the one that has is likely to be given a higher salary.

Oh comments is a stupid feature? There is a logic to the design of this site. It's not designed like a traditional forum , and to use it like that as you are makes it messy.

You are a troll aren't you? I've been a member of this site for 6 years now. I think I know how it works.

You talk like a high school dropout.

Trying to sue because someone won't give you something you aren't entitled to in the first place... then try to equate it to slipping on a floor or getting hit crossing a street.

Both of which have NOTHING in common about what you have been whinning about.

And if you have a degree or not... you aren't going to get hired at all if you act and talk like you don't have a clue and are trying to blow smoke up someone's butt. Because... NEWSFLASH. People that do know their job can spot a bullsh*ter pretty quick. And that's why you usually speak with more than one person before they make an offer. Because these people all talk to each other when you aren't there. And pick fun at the blowhards.. the unqualified and the liars. Because I've been part of more than a couple hirings.

Tell you what... how about I sue you for not buying me a new car...


That is just as logical and makes as much sense as what this entire thread is about.

Listen, you don't know me, and you don't have enough information to go on to think that I'm a bullsh*er. If you do then bear in mind that you're in a situation where you can make any absurd judgement about my level relative to other candidates, and not be accountable for it because it's entirely a game you are playing in your mind, and not very well either. You don't know how I compare to other people on my degree to say I'm a bullsh*er. The fact that I completed 2 years of my degree is the best you have to go on. You know nothing. You don't know what the modules were. You don't know the specifics of what it took to pass each. You know nothing, so don't go saying I'm a bullsh*er.

If the OP is not a troll,

I now believe in reincarnation. You cannot get that selfish, spoiled, arrogant , and confused in a single lifetime.

The fact is most people on the degree don't know things relevant to the work place.. I knew more than most and people came to me for help with stuff a lot, because of my knowledge, but for the workplace, we are all rather clueless. You don't know how people felt about the degree. You don't know what kind of university it was, all you have are guesses. And bad ones.

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The fact is most people on the degree don't know things relevant to the work place.. I knew more than most and people came to me for help with stuff a lot, because of my knowledge, but for the workplace, we are all rather clueless. You don't know how people felt about the degree. You don't know what kind of university it was, all you have are guesses. and bad ones. Really... You have this special insight just how... Being I have a university Degree... I've been in the workforce for 30 years... and I've had a hand in hiring more than a few people. And none of the people I've given a thumbs up to have turned out to be bad choices.

Also...

I have a job... you don't,

I granduated college... you haven't.

I paid for my own college... you are whinning because you don't want to.


I will agree you and your friends are rather clueless... and that's not unusual, because none of you have been in that specific sector of the workforce. You don't have experience yet. As far as the none of you know the relivant work related stuff, that's also correct. College doesn't teach you the job... it gives you a foundation to build on when you do get a job so you are able to learn what you need specific to that job. And over several decades and several jobs that work specific knowledge will grow to something significant, and of value to employers.

I knew more than most and people came to me for help with stuff a lot, because of my knowledge, but for the workplace,we are all rather clueless.


Now that makes sense. One in a row. You're improving already!

Bet you're glad you came.

How do I have this special insight? It's not special insight. I was THERE on the degree talking to people and passed two years of it. You're a joker. A complete ignoramous. You think being on the degree we didn't know? Fool. Yes there are bull*shers, and people that con their way through, and if you knew about hiring and had any common sense, you'd know that you have to know the field to weed them out. And ask them questions on the subject, then you see straight away. This is common sense. I remember somebody joking with me because one guy that got the degree went to a job interview and couldn't do a simple thing that anybody withsuch a degree would be expected to know. Sure there are BShers, and they can be found out. But you don't find out without asking questions on the field. You may be good at your job or jobs of hiring people but I hope you didn't do it this way. You need to know your field to question the candidate or you're useless. Do you deny that?

What is your field?

Maybe you can impress us with some display of your knowledge, by answering a question or two.

Using Answer is how this site is arranged. The comment section is limited, and is meant for very short remarks from people other than the OP (original poster).

From the little I know about Aspergers, I do think I understand some of what you are going through, but I also understand how relatives might be reduced to tears over you. Although symptoms vary widely, being set in ways, limited in multiple task ability, and reclusive are some that are common. I don't think you are aware of how absurd your blame is. Learn more about the syndrome and work with a therapist on how to manage your life without blaming anyone. You might have problems with most jobs anyway, although I just saw a TV segment about a very rich hedge fund guy with Aspergers who works at home all alone. In other words, brains aren't the problem, social skills are. Many people with Aspergers do well with numbers.

I WORK in a college. In administration.

I hear from people like you ALL the time. Usually when they're failing out because they couldn't keep their act together.

If you have Asperger's, you are eligible for accommodations in the US. If you haven't reached out to your ADA Coordinator to get them, then that is YOUR fault.

Your parents have absolutely ZERO obligation to put you through school. NONE. Nada. Zilch.

With that obligation missing, you can sue all you want--but you're not going to win. No court is going to award you money for something that was not their obligation in the first place.

Your analogies suck, by the way. It is the obligation of the people mopping the floor to warn others that it might be slippery. It is the obligation of the driver to pay attention to pedestrians.

It is NOT the obligation of parents to pay for post-secondary schooling of their adult children.

At this point--I WANT you to sue though. I want you to be out THAT money, plus lose your family, and get a healthy dose of reality along with it.

You are making excuses for why YOU failed. Yes---YOU ARE THE ONE WHO FAILED. That falls on absolutely no one else. If you were struggling, there were people at the school you could have talked to for help. If you didn't do so, that is YOUR fault.

Get over it, get a crappy job, and then go back to school to finish your degree.

But puilling the rug from their feet AT SAME FINANCIAL COST is something else.. I know it seems the law doesn't go into such things. But it is a wrong for sure. And it's unfortunate that the law doesn't address it

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How do I have this special insight? It's not special insight. I was THERE on the degree talking to people and passed two years of it. You're a joker. A complete ignoramous. You think being on the degree we didn't know? Fool. Yes there are bull*shers, and people that con their way through, and if you knew about hiring and had any common sense, you'd know that you have to know the field to weed them out. And ask them questions on the subject, then you see straight away. This is common sense. I remember somebody joking with me 'cos one guy that got the degree went to a job interview and couldn't do a simple thing that anybody withsuch a degree would be expected to know. Sure there are BShers, and they can be found out. But you don't find out without asking questions on the field. You may be good at your job or jobs of hiring people but I hope you didn't do it this way. You need to know your field to question the candidate or you're useless. Do you deny that?



Oh... 2 years and talking with your friends you have it ALL figured out? Really...


Then why in the hell aren't you independently wealthy and retired at your young age yet?

Or maybe you don't know a fraction of what you THINK you know.

I own Property in Two Countries... I've worked successful carreers on two countries... I've learned to speak four languages... earned the right to live and work in Two countries... AS I wish... I have numerous vehicles resitered and at my disposal that I own in two countries. I have money stashed in Two countries...

But you haven't even been able to support yourself and pay your own bills yet in one and you know everything. And Hanent even been able to finish college.

THey have a word for people like you. Its Blowhard. THere are others... but they are too vulgar to type here.


You don't know jack squat until you have been in the workforce. And you don't have to have a PHD in a specific field to spot a big talker... there are VERY, VERY few who can pull that off. People can tell by HOW you use certain words... not that you even know what they mean. Anyone can learn a vocabulary list. It takes time to learn to use them in a way that experienced people would. When You don't... it betrays your lack of experience. Use them in the wrong context... it betrays your lack of experience, Use wrong words at the wrong time, even if technically they are correct.. it beltrays your lack of experience.

There is a saying... can you talk the talk, and walk the walk?

And you DO know people that think they can fool others... ever groups has at least one. Some are fairly good at it, others aren't.

Prospective employers don't expect you to know everything out of college... but they will single out the big talkers as well as the obviously unqualified long before the list of prospective people are initially interviewed... and to further restrict those who do interview to narrow down the possible candidates.

You might be able to impress your friends... but you DO put off people that really are experts in the field.

There is a difference between confidence... and arrogance. The former is good, the lattter is bad.

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But puilling the rug from their feet AT SAME FINANCIAL COST is something else.. I know it seems the law doesn't go into such things. But it is a wrong for sure. And it's unfortunate that the law doesn't address it



There is nothing wrong... because no such entitlement exists, or ever existed. In fact at 18, they could have simply told you to get a job and move out... you legally aren't entitled to live there for free once you are an adult. Be thankful you only have one year of education to pay for yourself... some of us have had to pay for ALL of our educations. And we don't blame our parents for it.

I am taking steps to improve the situation I'm in. It is not an excuse for failing, if it is the reason for failing. The reason why I failed, is what I described. Now, you can blame me for having the weakness that I Have with organization but that's stupid. I'm not to blame for that. I'm aware of my weakness. If I'd have known what they'd do then I wouldn't have relied on them.

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I am taking steps to improve the situation i'm in. It is not an excuse for failing, if it is the reason for failing. The reason why I failed, is what I described. Now, you can blame me for having the weakness that I Have with organization but that's stupid. I'm not to blame for that. I'm aware of my weakness. If i'd have known what they'd do then I wouldn't have relied on them.

The reason you failed is your own actions... NOTHING anyone else did or didn't do. Time to act like an adult and face the facts. YOU are the reason you succeed or if you fail in life... nobody else.

You're just dishonest. I didn't say that by talking to people in university I figured out evryhthing and can make a fortune. If you look at the context, you said you've hired people before and can see I'm a BSer by which you obviously mean that I don't know the subject of my degree. You said how on earth would I know that people on the degree weren't well prepared for the workplace, I said by doing 2 years of the degree and talking to people on it. I never claimed to know "ALL" you are silly and just not having an honest discussion. And memorizing a vocabulary list? What on earth has that got to do with anything. Have you done that? I haven't. Not being able to use words? Are you saying I can't use words? Is this the extent of your hiring skills? Testing peoples' vocabulary!! I said you should know their field and question that. You seem to be proving that you're useless at hiring people and just BSed yourself and got lucky.

I know more about my situation than you joypulv, and I was doing well on my degree. I got As in some modules people consider hard, I'm not an idiot like what you write suggests. You don't need to tell me that there are people with aspergers that can do stuff. Sure there are things people can do and things people can't do. I'm not somebody that is useless with everything and just has a skill in numbers. I know what I can and can't do better than you know what I can and can't do. Don't assume that I'm not working on improving my situation. It's not a quick process.

I am not a fool like what you write suggests, or if I am a fool, I am not such a fool as to treat you people as some kind of authority on what I do or do not know in my field. You think I should dance around trying to prove my knowledge to you? Who do you think you are? And what have I or you to gain from it? Maybe you'll gain self esteem. But I won't, I'm not a child.. You seem to be very patronizing and wrong in your assessment if you think I should prove myself to you. For what? Who are you, what is your expertise?

Sounds like you're just jealous and incapable of seeing from another position.

How do you know how easy it was for me to do the degree with or without living near uni?

Tell me what's the difference between a reason and an excuse?

It's an excuse if regardless of that I'd have failed the final year. What do you know to make that judgement?

I feel for you, to an extent. I used to have a friend like you (used to). She was extremely privileged her whole childhood and half of college. Her parents told her they would pay for her education and then her senior year, they (as you and she would put it) "pull the rug from under her". And boy, what a life-ending event that was for her. Truthfully, though I could hardly stand the childish, spoiled rants she would have about her "unfair" parents-I could kind of understand her point of view. She was raised in a world where everything was handed to her, never taught the value of a dollar, never taught a THING about responsibility. When her parents realized she was so spoiled and needed to grow up-they took everything away from her (they paid her rent and tuition and gas money and cell phone bills at 21 years old... sheesh). Well, no wonder people like you are so delusional. Yes, delusional. You were never shown responsibility and when the real world hits you in the face it's a big deal.

Well, guess what? It's reality. Now you need to take care of yourself. Sink or swim. So, what are you going to do about it?

You have no right to sue your parents. You may be mad at them and feel entitled to something but legally they owe you nothing. So, throw a tantrum like a petulant child or STAND UP, brush off your pants, and move on. You're an adult now so prove it to yourself and your family.

I understand you have a disability, so use the resources you have. People with disabilities have a lot of resources in education and you should take advantage of every single one.

Stop whining. It does nothing to resolve the situation you are in now and it certainly does nothing to gain anyone's respect-most of all your own. If you respected yourself and had half the faith in yourself that you try to exude, you wouldn't be having this conversation with us right now.

Carry on!

I have read this thread over and over, but yet am unable to understand the question.

How have your parents "pulled a rug from under your feet" and somehow impeded you in your efforts to complete your studies?

By paying for a flat you didn't use? So, if you didn't use it, presumably you lived somewhere. Were you incapable of studying where you were living? Do you imagine you could only have studied effectively somewhere else; a place which they refused to let you have? Again, I don't understand what you are trying to say.

And you say something about your grandfather attempting to help you financially. Again, what does this have to do with the price of potatoes in Peru?

What country do you reside in?

Cauin, your grandfather supplied money for you to go to secondary school and to have housing off-campus and out of your parents' home. The financial matters were arranged through your parents, notably, your mother.

Your previous housing closed and you needed new accommodations. Your parents found you an apartment that was not where you wanted it to be. So you didn't move out of their home.

You had to commute to school and due to your own inability to cope (slightly autistic isn't an excuse when you get into higher education and life) you failed your classes and didn't graduate. Now you blame your parents for you not getting a job because you have to explain why you didn't get a degree.

I highly doubt your inability to get a job has as much to do with your lack of degree as it does your lack of coping skills. In a job, you can't ask your employer to tell you in advance every move he/she is going to make. As someone who claims to have a disability, you have to work harder to cope. You have to work on ways to be more organized. You have to develop skills that it appears you are lacking.

Your housing and your educational expenses were supplied as per the agreement. You didn't do your part.

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You're just dishonest. I didn't say that by talking to people in university I figured out evryhthing and can make a fortune. If you look at the context, you said you've hired people before and can see i'm a BSer by which you obviously mean that I don't know the subject of my degree. You said how on earth would I know that people on the degree weren't well prepared for the workplace, I said by doing 2 years of the degree and talking to people on it. I never claimed to know "ALL" you are silly and just not having an honest discussion. And memorizing a vocabulary list? What on earth has that got to do with anything. Have you done that? I haven't. Not being able to use words? Are you saying I can't use words? Is this the extent of your hiring skills? Testing peoples' vocabulary!!! I said you should know their field and question that. You seem to be proving that you're useless at hiring people and just BSed yourself and got lucky.


Really... You are clued in to the fact that everyone is laughing AT you right now... not WITH you?

And it's clear what a success YOU have turned out to be... can't even finish college and talking about suing your own family because you are a loser.

And you have the balls to say that to me... who has already achieved far more than you have ever dreamed of. I've lived on the Italian Riviera for several years... where I could look out my window onto the beach and Mediteranian Sea. I could still be there if I wished right now. In fact, I will be there this summer. You will be exactly where?

I guess its true... when you aim for the bottom, you won't be disappointed when you get there.

You know... if someone like you... and there is a type... crossed my path at a job interview... you'd never make it past the first interview. Because I take great pleasure of weeding them out. And even if you was smooth enough to get through the interview... you wouldn't last long. Its really not hard to get rid of someone after they are hired... union representation or not. Even IF they can do the job. Stir up trouble and EVERYONE is aiming to take you down. And you will make mistakes, everyone does. Only what will get overlooked for others... won't be overlooked for you when they want a reason.

No... it is an EXCUSE.

The REASON you failed is because you did not do what you needed to do to pass.

Your PARENTS have nothing to do with that, unless they were holding you prisoner in their home.

I seriously hear from students like you EVERY SINGLE TERM. It's NEVER their own fault that they failed---they always blame it on someone or something else.

Guess what? It IS your fault. You have to take responsibility for that before you can grow up.

By your reasoning, the "reason" why you are not the super rich like Donald Trump is because you didn't do what you needed to do to do that, so you are to blame, it's your fault. The flaw in that reasoning of yours, is indeed, it's true, that if I had done certain things, it'd have worked out, and if you'd done certain things, you'd be the next donald trump. But you have to be aware of what you can and can't do, and take that into consideration. And I did.

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how do you know how easy it was for me to do the degree with or without living near uni?



If it was so easy for you... WHY didn't you finish it??

Here's my input...

In your original post you said, "and even going for a job interview would be a nightmare because I have to relive it explaining them why I don't have a degree"...

I can tell you one thing for sure, Cauin, I know that if you have 10 degrees and go into an interview explaining why you are unhappy with things and you blame your parents/family like you have here, YOU WILL NOT BE GETTING ANY JOB, OK?

I think everyone here has really tried to help you. Take notice of the information presented and spend some time reflecting on you as a person.

Good luck!

Mark

By your reasoning smoothie, the "reason" why you are not the super rich like Donald Trump is because you didn't do what you needed to do to do that, so you are to blame, it's your fault. The flaw in that reasoning of yours, is indeed, it's true, that if I had done certain things, it'd have worked out, and if you'd done certain things, you'd be the next donald trump. But you have to be aware of what you can and can't do, and take that into consideration. And I did.

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By your reasoning, the "reason" why you are not the super rich like Donald Trump is because you didn't do what you needed to do to do that, so you are to blame, it's your fault. The flaw in that reasoning of yours, is indeed, it's true, that if I had done certain things, it'd have worked out, and if you'd done certain things, you'd be the next donald trump. But you have to be aware of what you can and can't do, and take that into consideration. And I did.



Lame... lame... lame.


YOU are a major success exactly how... where, doing what exactly? Because until YOU have actually gotten your own place and supported yourself... you are in no position to be judging who is and isn't a success.


Its YOU that's been whinning about everything being your parents fault when its YOU that's screwed up everything that's been handed to you on a silver platter.

That's reality... its not reasoning. Life is reality based. You don't REASON with physics, you don't REASON with life... you deal with it on its terms. And you are NOT in any position to dictate those terms.

Bill Gates can to a degreee, Donals Trump can to a dergee, but they earned that right via their success. YOU however have earned none of that... you take what you are offered and you make what you can of it. Maybe you can create a Lemonaide Empire... or you can sit there crying about what the hell you are supposed to do with the lemons life offered you.

The summary of that story is YOU are responsible for your choices... make the worng ones you have nobody to blame but yourself.

Please tell me, cauin, how you know you are an Aspie. I haven't seen evidence of it in this thread.

You interpret things in odd ways. I'm not saying I'm a success and you're a failure.

Should I have scanned the diagnostic report for you? Why do you think I have to prove it to you? You obviously think I'm very stupid, but obviously not stupid enough to be doing that.

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should I have scanned the diagnostic report for you? Why do you think I have to prove it to you? You obviously think i'm very stupid, but obviously not stupid enough to be doing that.

Why the high dudgeon? I was merely asking how you know. Were you diagnosed, or did you decide somehow you are? Again, this thread doesn't read like you are.

by your reasoning smoothie, the "reason" why you are not the super rich like Donald Trump is because you didn't do what you needed to do to do that, so you are to blame, it's your fault. The flaw in that reasoning of yours, is indeed, it's true, that if I had done certain things, it'd have worked out, and if you'd done certain things, you'd be the next donald trump. But you have to be aware of what you can and can't do, and take that into consideration. And I did.

I could have entered politics... but I had no desire to... I could have done a lot of things I have chosen not to do. I'm happy with what I have, because I earned that right. And I've never entertained the thought of suing my parents for anything... for any reason, ever.

Could I have done something differently? Certainly... and that's true for everyone. But I made the choices and I live with them. Because I am the one that made them.

Like I said... stupid liberal arts classes in a college isn't going to help you "reason" with reality. Reality IS what it is. You don't reason with it, and in fact you CAN'T reason with it. You have to deal with it.

SO you made your choices (like everyone else)... and IF you really was dealing with it, then why are you talking about sueing your parents for something you had no right to expect in the first place. Only a loser would sue their parents. YOU got a lot more from your parents than a lot of people did... you should be thanking them instead of blaming them.

Some parents would have packed your bags and pushed you out the door on your 18th birthday, a few wouldn't have waited that long. You should count your blessings you have the parents you do.

You aren't in a position to negotiate anything... that is a right that earned after you have earned the right to be in a position of power. As it is you have nothing to negotiate with... you have to take what is offered you until you do. YOu can't negotiate effectively unless you have something of value to someone else to bargain with... right now you don't. You likely will sometime in the future however.

I suppose you think a 20 something fresh out of school is worth the pay of someone that's already been doing a job for 30+ years. Because its almost like they teach that concept in college for some reason.

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By your reasoning, the "reason" why you are not the super rich like Donald Trump is because you didn't do what you needed to do to do that, so you are to blame, it's your fault. The flaw in that reasoning of yours, is indeed, it's true, that if I had done certain things, it'd have worked out, and if you'd done certain things, you'd be the next donald trump. But you have to be aware of what you can and can't do, and take that into consideration. And I did.

You are ABSOLUTELY correct! Ding ding ding! I am not rich like Donald Trump because I didn't make the same sacrifices he did to get there. It's NOT that I'm not rich like Donald Trump because I'm not 6'2" and male.

You didn't pass because you didn't make the sacrifices you needed to do in order to do so. The reason you didn't pass is NOT because your living arrangements changed.

See the difference? In MY version---YOU are responsible for your OWN failures. NOT your parents.

I asked about your being an Aspie simply because I'm wondering if your parents wanted you to have your own apartment (rather than live with them) and begin to be independent from them.

And how much more uni is left for you? Could you finish, even through online classes or independent study? In this country, the U.S. there are a lot of helps for Aspies, from tutoring to coaching of all kinds. Have you checked into that sort of thing where you live?

Like I said.....stupid liberal arts classes in a college isn't going to help you "reason" with reality. Reality IS what it is. You don't reason with it, and in fact you CAN'T reason with it. You have to deal with it.

I feel that any education a person receives CAN help them immensely in many ways. I learned an extremely valuable interpersonal lesson in a Victorian Literature class that had nothing to do with the class.

The key is that a person has to WORK for what they learn. I don't mean merely paying the fees to go to the class, but actually squeeze that experience for all it is worth both in the books and the people with whom you are learning.

Some people just don't understand that getting what they envision requires sacrifice and *gasp* hard work!

I feel that any education a person receives CAN help them immensely in many ways. I learned an extremely valuable interpersonal lesson in a Victorian Literature class that had nothing to do with the class.

The key is that a person has to WORK for what they learn. I don't mean merely paying the fees to go to the class, but actually squeeze that experience for all it is worth both in the books and the people with whom you are learning.

Some people just don't understand that getting what they envision requires sacrifice and *gasp* hard work!

I agree an education is a good thing... but there ARE worthless waste of money classes... many of them in fact. Anyone that has seen a list of available courses at a University, particularly the bigger ones can pick a lengthy list. A class that discusses the hidden meaning behind Brittney Spears songs is one example.

And you can't get more out of it than you put into it. Its one thing to pass a course... and its another to walk out of it with a mastery in what it taught.

Wait just a minute, Smoothy.

It's getting off topic, so let's discuss it elsewhere after this, but MANY classes that seem worthless to you actually do have a purpose in a LIBERAL ARTS education.

The problem is that there's a huge difference between a liberal arts education (which teaches you how to think and reason) and a career education (with many specific majors like law, medicine, engineering, and business) that tell you WHAT to think. Liberal arts are more (ahem) liberal with their electives. Career majors are slowly ELIMINATING electives, and that's actually a huge problem in education.

But again---a discussion for a different board.

I agree an education is a good thing....but there ARE worthless waste of money classes.....many of them in fact. Anyone that has seen a list of availible courses at a University, particularly the bigger ones can pick a lengthy list. A class that discusses the hidden meaning behind Brittney Spears songs is one example.

And you can't get more out of it than you put into it. Its one thing to pass a course....and its another to walk out of it with a mastery in what it taught.

The first two years at a Liberal Arts college are completely worthless. NO amount of teaching me "how" to give a speech is going to stop me from wetting myself every time I have to give a presentation at work.

Sorry, Synnen, we posted at the same time. This is a different discussion for a different board and we should focus on the question on hand.

The first two years at a Liberal Arts college are completely worthless. NO amount of teaching me "how" to give a speech is going to stop me from wetting myself every time I have to give a presentation at work.Or getting up there and muttering like an idiot because you are scared and can't think straight.

Sorry, Synnen, we posted at the same time. This is a different discussion for a different board and we should focus on the question on hand.

Well the OP has in fact been all over the place themselves... beyond the scope of the original post.


And in 8 pages they still don't see the error of their original comments.

Well the OP has in fact been all over the place themselves....beyond the scope of the original post.


And in 8 pages they still don't see the error of their original comments. I'm thinking he was conditioned to live in a fantasy world with no responsibility and now it's his time to step up and learn how to live in reality or be lost forever. Personally, I'm rooting for him to learn from this experience.

My friend whom I was talking about earlier is pretty much a goner because she couldn't understand what personal accountability was. Sad.

I'm thinking he was conditioned to live in a fantasy world with no responsibility and now it's his time to step up and learn how to live in reality or be lost forever. Personally, I'm rooting for him to learn from this experience.

My friend whom I was talking about earlier is pretty much a goner because she couldn't understand what personal accountability was. Sad.

I think that's a fair assessment. I've known people that grew up too coddled, without learnig responsibility and duty... and grew into adulthood without understanding those concepts actually thinking they were owed these things.

Some parents DO in fact, do too much for their kids sometimes which denies them the chance to learn important life lessons. And unprepared to deal with life.

I think thats a fair assessment. I've known people that grew up too coddled, without learnig responsibility and duty....and grew into adulthood without understanding those concepts actually thinking they were owed these things.

Some parents DO in fact, do too much for their kids sometimes which denies them the chance to learn important life lessons. And unprepared to deal with life. Yup-as hard as it may be for parents-I think it's valuable to let your kids crash and burn and learn.

Suing the parents because they coddled too much? Oh dear.

... It's getting off topic, so let's discuss it elsewhere after this, but MANY classes that seem worthless to you actually do have a purpose in a LIBERAL ARTS education.
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Certainly. At least two purposes:

to keep the professor employed; and
to keep the students occupied while they are waiting for their degees.

Certainly. At least two purposes:

to keep the professor employed; and
to keep the students occupied while they are waiting for their degees.


You missed one...


▪ to line the pockets of the university and help pay for the multi-million dollar Salaries of the College presidents

I just came into this thread, and read all the pages. Whew, what a chore. My head hurts from banging it repeatedly on the desk.

Cauin, read all the posts made on this thread. Count how many people posted on your thread. Did one of those people tell you you're right? Did anyone say that you're entitled to sue? Did anyone tell you what you want to hear?

I'll save you some time. Not one person agrees that you have a case. Not one person thinks that it's your parents fault that you didn't graduate. Every person that posted has confirmed that it's your fault. I agree with them.

So, do you really think all the people that posted on this thread are just against you, out to get you? Or, could it be that they're telling you the truth?

I know it's not easy hearing what you don't want to hear, being told that you're in the wrong. The fact is, you are the one to blame in all of this.

Instead of concentrating on all the imagined wrongs done to you, concentrate on getting your degree. Concentrate on learning to cope with your disability, because at this point in time, even with a degree, your attitude and your obvious lack of maturity will prevent you from getting a job. If you don't change, a degree really won't help you.

Before you come back with a scathing post, telling me I'm wrong, whining about all the things your parents didn't do for you, take a minute to remember that they did more for you then they were required to. Take a moment to realize that no one reading your thread agrees with you. That should be a huge wake up call.

It's amusing to read people saying they could have been donald trump if they'd made the sacrifices.. yeah right. People have limitations. You can't just do anything because you have 2 arms and 2 legs and something on your neck like Donald Trump. You should get real.

"liberal arts".. no. I probably did a better degree , in a better institution, than most of you.. well, 2 years of one anyway. Welcome to the real world. People can be more academic than you, and fail. And guess what. If you think they're stupid and every guess is that they did some rubbish degree, they are a BSer , well, when you're wrong on everything maybe you should look in the mirror. You're just somebody with common sense , a basic ability to make something of yourself, but no depth of thought, no intellect.
Unfortunately, I lack common sense for basic tasks.. but I can reason, which is more than many here.. that jump to the most silly conclusions.

I am not posting insisting that I do have a case to sue(as somebody seemed to think! ), I wanted to know if I did, and it became clear after the first few posts that apparently I do not, nothing to do with ideals. I'm not going to insist on it if the law doesn't cover it, what's the point? So a small minded person thinks that's what this discussion is about all the pages. Other topics have been discussed.

The truth is that a lot of you are deeply jealous that I was fortunate enough that my parents paid for me to do 2 years of my degree. When your parents paid for none. So as far as you are concerned, I had it better. And the fact that I am saying I was wronged, makes you bitter and jealous. And scoff at how I failed with all that "help". If you could think more deeply, you'd see things more clearly.

If my parents had done nothing for me, and SAID SO. Then I would have worked first, then done the degree. It'd have taken more time but my life and CV wouldn't be in pieces. In my area people rely on their parents and yes it can mean you get their quicker, and if they hadn't pulled the rug I'd have had a shot at the final year and might've done it as I'd done the previous two. And then if they'd pull the rug then when I'm not relying on them, then fine.

Or if they'd pulled the rug BEFORE I got onto it. Like before the degree.

This is all beyond the minds of the bitter people here that just see somebody from a more privileged background than them. And if I can say I was wronged, then how much more so you. In your small-mindedness, you think that. As I said. If they'd pulled the rug before I got onto it, that'd be better than pulling it when I was on it. It's not about -comfort-..

I lived on about 10 bucks a week, eating very poor, because I was paying all the money they gave me into paying off a debt. They pretty much said once that money is no problem for them, and they could afford a lot, but asking them for money was a big problem for them, so I did live very poor. You probably ate better than I did if you were ever students. It really doesn't work how you think it does. A lot depends on the relationship and understanding that you have with your parents. And problems in that are down to the parents too. And to what extent varies.

It is possible to -try- to better oneself without saying "IT IS ALL MY FAULT" when it isn't. If you could see a bit deeper, you'd see that.

Well slight correction, 10 bucks a week on food/drink.. and a proper meal at a relative every Wednesday, but that's a minor thing

This thread's pretty awesome. I didn't know people like this existed in real life.

Get with it, buddy. You're putting the people on this forum down because... why? Your parents PAID for your life?

Life sucks, then you die. Learn it now.

-- med student in $280,000 in loans. Living off ramen and easy mac. Working during my summer and winter breaks to survive.

DEAL WITH IT.

News flash Cauin. I am a college graduate, and my parents did pay for my education, so no, it's not jealousy. Guess what, I finished my degree, and I got a job in my field, and I was very successful at that job. I only quit when I became pregnant, so that I could raise my kids. If I wanted to go back to the career tomorrow, all I'd have to do is make one simple phone call.

Don't assume to know anything about the people posting here. Yes, many of them had to pay for their own education. Not everyone is as lazy and ungrateful as you.

I was more then willing to pay for my own education, but I'm an only child, and my parents wanted me to be able to go to school, get a job, and start earning money, and not have to worry about student loans. I am very grateful to them for what they did for me. I am shocked that a child would think of suing their parents when they went out of their way to help them, something they didn't have to do, and in hindsight, I'm sure they wish they hadn't wasted their money.

My advice to you is counseling. Learn that no one owes you anything. You're not entitled to a great life because your parents have money. A post secondary education is a privilege, not a right. Your parents paying for that education is a gift, not a given.

I suggest that you grow up and realize that no one is going to hold your hand and pave the road for you. It's up to you to make the most of your life. You're an adult, so start acting like one and take responsibility for your own actions, or lack thereof.

We find it amusing someone can't grasp the concept they are responsible for their own choices and as an adult their own expenses... and that they actually have the arrogance to consider suing their own parents for not continuing to pay for their every passing fancy rather than get off their butt and get a job to pay for it themselves.


You have heard of the proverbial poster child for retroactive birth control... haven't you? Bet your dad smacked your mom for letting him sleep with her roughly 20-22 years ago, or the other way around.

I used to watch "My super sweet sixteen" on MTV... til this.

There is dense... but I think we just discovered the densest material in the known universe...

Makes diamonds seem like Gummibears... warm ones.

I dub it cauininium. Absolutely impenetrable by any know method or material.

It's amusing to read people saying they could have been donald trump if they'd made the sacrifices.. yeah right. People have limitations. You can't just do anything because you have 2 arms and 2 legs and something on your neck like Donald Trump. You should get real.

I have a brain, and ideas, and an IQ higher than that of Donald Trump. If being rich were what was important to me, I could have done so. Instead, I sacrficed being rich so that I could be happy.


"liberal arts".. no. I probably did a better degree , in a better institution, than most of you.. well, 2 years of one anyway. Welcome to the real world. People can be more academic than you, and fail. And guess what. If you think they're stupid and every guess is that they did some rubbish degree, they are a BSer , well, when you're wrong on everything maybe you should look in the mirror. You're just somebody with common sense , a basic ability to make something of yourself, but no depth of thought, no intellect.
Unfortunately, I lack common sense for basic tasks..but I can reason, which is more than many here.. that jump to the most silly conclusions.

Seriously--you have NO idea how much like the other "kids" at the college I work at sound like when they're whining and complaining that it's not their fault they couldn't do it. I was probably more academic than you in college, and I failed out an entire year of school. BUT--I blamed myself, not my parents. And I got off my butt and went back and got my degree.


I am not posting insisting that I do have a case to sue(as somebody seemed to think!!), I wanted to know if I did, and it became clear after the first few posts that apparently I do not, nothing to do with ideals. I'm not going to insist on it if the law doesn't cover it, what's the point? so a small minded person thinks that's what this discussion is about all the pages. Other topics have been discussed.

Yes, and this is a LEGAL board. If it gets too much further off topic, the thread will be closed.


The truth is that a lot of you are deeply jealous that I was fortunate enough that my parents paid for me to do 2 years of my degree. When your parents paid for none. So as far as you are concerned, I had it better. And the fact that I am saying I was wronged, makes you bitter and jealous. And scoff at how I failed with all that "help". If you could think more deeply, you'd see things more clearly.

Am I jealous? Maybe a little. Mostly I feel sorry for you, though. You obviously don't have a clue how much I learned from having to do things for myself, and how much more I value what I have because mommy and daddy didn't give it to me--I earned it myself. I don't feel bitter and jealous that you feel wronged. I feel like you're an idiot that can't see what you DO have because you're too busy crying about what you don't.


If my parents had done nothing for me, and SAID SO. Then I would have worked first, then done the degree. It'd have taken more time but my life and CV wouldn't be in pieces. In my area people rely on their parents and yes it can mean you get their quicker, and if they hadn't pulled the rug i'd have had a shot at the final year and might've done it as i'd done the previous two. And then if they'd pull the rug then when i'm not relying on them, then fine.

Or if they'd pulled the rug BEFORE I got onto it. Like before the degree.

So they pulled the rug on you. Get over it. LIFE has pulled the rug out from underneath me so many times it's not even funny. And it was never when I was getting a free ride when it happened, either. It was more like when everything ELSE had gone wrong, life pulled the rug out from under me. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN LIFE! Unexpected, unwelcome things happen to millions of people every single day. The ones that are successful--those are the ones that say "well, shucks. I guess I have to do this a different way". The ones that fail are the ones that say "WAAAAAAAH!!! That's not fair! You TOLD me you'd do it this other way and I don't like the new way and it's made it IMPOSSIBLE for me to continue and be successful! It's all YOUR fault!"

Do you see the difference between success and failure?


This is all beyond the minds of the bitter people here that just see somebody from a more privileged background than them. And if I can say I was wronged, then how much moreso you. In your small-mindedness, you think that. As I said. If they'd pulled the rug before I got onto it, that'd be better than pulling it when I was on it. It's not about -comfort-..

Seriously? You think I'm bitter because you had two years paid for? No--I'm not bitter about that at all. What I *AM* is angry. Angry at stupid little kids that feel like they are ENTITLED to everything their parents give them rather than being grateful for what you got. It's not about whether I got what you did---it's about the fact that you got something, and are whining and complaining that you didn't get more.


I lived on about 10 bucks a week, eating very poor, because I was paying all the money they gave me into paying off a debt. They pretty much said once that money is no problem for them, and they could afford a lot, but asking them for money was a big problem for them, so I did live very poor. You probably ate better than I did if you were ever students. It really doesn't work how you think it does. A lot depends on the relationship and understanding that you have with your parents. And problems in that are down to the parents too. And to what extent varies.

And I worked 60 hours a week at McDonald's, and that barely covered the bills. Most days, the only food I ate was my one free meal at work. Other days, I ate what other people who were sorry for me gave me. My parents couldn't AFFORD to give me anything. And when I went to ask for help from the university, the answer was that my parents made too much for me to get extra aid to have food. $10 a day is $70 a week. I was lucky if I had that left a MONTH. And you weren't even paying RENT! After rent, heat, and electricity, I was lucky if I had 10 CENTS left a day. YOU try to find food to eat on that amount. I lost 40 pounds that year from simply not eating. I don't feel one BIT sorry for you. Poor little rich kid, didn't get what they wanted from mommy and daddy.



It is possible to -try- to better oneself without saying "IT IS ALL MY FAULT" when it isn't. If you could see a bit deeper, you'd see that.

It IS all your fault. Or at least it is NOT your parents' fault. You can't grow up until you acknowledge that YOU, and ONLY you, are to blame for your failure in school. If you were a bit wiser, you would understand that.

"My advice to you is counseling. Learn that no one owes you anything. You're not entitled to a great life because your parents have money. A post secondary education is a privilege, not a right. Your parents paying for that education is a gift, not a given. "

I'm not saying I'm "entitled". I said, if they'd pulled the rug before I got on it, then that'd have been fine. So how is that saying I'm entitled?

It's a "gift" but if pulled suddenly and I can't make sudden plan changes at that point, then it's a "gift" I'd have been better off without.

"My advice to you is counseling. Learn that no one owes you anything. You're not entitled to a great life because your parents have money. A post secondary education is a privilege, not a right. Your parents paying for that education is a gift, not a given. "

I'm not saying i'm "entitled". I said, if they'd pulled the rug before I got on it, then that'd have been fine. So how is that saying i'm entitled?

It's a "gift" but if pulled suddenly and I can't make sudden plan changes at that point, then it's a "gift" i'd have been better off without.

Its pretty damn clear you are dense as a rock. You haven't actually understood anything anyone has said so far... oh you heard what you wanted to hear... but not what you was being told.

YOU are claiming they pulled a rug out from under you that you had not legal right to be standing on in the first place.

Get over it, and get over yourself. No wonder they cut you off... I would have sold my house and moved while you was away without leaving a forwarding address after just what has been said in this thread alone. And I know that's just a drop in the bucket.

Get over it... get over yourself. Stop whinning... it makes you look like more of a petulant little brat every time you do it. No wonder your father and grandfather won't talk to you.

Most families would have put you and your stuff out on the street if you acted like that in their house... and they would have been right doing it.

If you don't like it at home... MOVE out... support yourself, going to love that when the bills start coming in and YOU have to pay them. When you are living on someone else's dime and in someone else's house, and it IS someome else's house, your parents specifically (your name isn't on the deed)... shut up and stop complaining.

I'm not saying I'm "entitled". I said, if they'd pulled the rug before I got on it, then that'd have been fine. So how is that saying I'm entitled?

It's a "gift" but if pulled suddenly and I can't make sudden plan changes at that point, then it's a "gift" I'd have been better off without.

You still don't get it. You got two years of that "rug" under your feet, that's more then the majority of people get. Once the rug was pulled you had the option to get your arse in gear and finish your education. You didn't. Instead you chose to use this as an excuse to fail.

Yes they pulled it, and frankly I'm surprised they even offered to help to begin with. I can't imagine you showing any gratitude for what they did, especially in light of the fact that you want to sue them for paying for part of your education. :(

Do you really not understand what we're saying? Do you really not see why everyone thinks you're spoiled and ungrateful?

I have to agree with Sneezy, I didn't know people like you existed. You are one of a kind, but not in a good way. At least I hope you're one of a kind. :eek:

As the OP clearly has no intention of listening to anything that conflicts with their own blinkered view point, this thread is

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The worst part is that the OP is a fellow Brit, and I find this disgusting in the extreme.
Overly inflated sense of entitlement along with overdeveloped ego.