View Full Version : Coolidge effect , if Its true?
oopsmj
Mar 1, 2011, 01:36 AM
Coolidge effect, guys can't be satisfied with one woman, keep looking for sex pertner.
If its true, how long usually does it take for guys to get bored of their girl friends?
oopsmj
Mar 1, 2011, 03:38 AM
22?
450donn
Mar 1, 2011, 06:40 AM
Depends on your point of view. The secular world tells you that man was made to impregnate as many women as possible to keep their blood line going. God teaches one man one woman and you are married for life. Sex is reserved for the marriage bed only. So which school of thought do you subscribe to?
Synnen
Mar 1, 2011, 06:49 AM
Actually, the Bible says "be fruitful and multiply", and many of the patriarchs of the Bible had more than one wife, so you can't say that "God" says that it's "one man, one woman.". RELIGION, and in particular the Christian religion, says that, but I don't really thing GOD did, or Abraham and Jacob both would have been sent to hell as sinners.
Several religions' gods actually DO support multiple wives, as long as you can love them and care for them equally.
So--you're actually asking whether this poster is CHRISTIAN, not whether he subscribes to god over the secular world.
I personally don't think the Coolidge effect has any teeth, because plenty of men are satisfied with one woman. If you've got a guy that gets sick of girlfriends easily, then he's a user and a player, not a victim of the Coolidge effect.
CravenMorhead
Mar 1, 2011, 08:25 AM
Coolidge effect, guys can't be satisfied with one woman, keep looking for sex pertner.
If its true, how long usually does it take for guys to get bored of their girl friends?
I did a little reading on the Coolidge effect and I believe that it has very little effect in and upon Humans. Which it is true that men will try to procreate with many females they can abstain and be monogamous.
You have a simplifed and, I believe, incorrect understanding of the effect. It seems that the Coolidge Effect deals with the length of the refraction period of men after they orgasm. If they're with the same partner then it is longer then if a new mate came upon them. When a new mate comes along they are able to 'recharge' a little faster to copulate with this new female.
Where the problems lay is in our cognitive abilities. We can think and we have the moral fibre that is instilled in us by our parents/priests/flying spaghetti monster/ninja masters/et. al. that prevent us from copulating with every piece of *** that comes our way that we find attractive. Which isn't to say that people don't give in to those urges. There are a lot of people who do. They also break relationships, break hearts, and do other sort of nasty emotional things.
So this effect isn't so much of getting bored with your girlfriend. If you're getting bored of your girlfriend then you have something else going on. That is fine, people fall into and fall out of love. If you're falling out of attraction/love with your girlfriend then look at the reason why and don't try to blame in on some obscure medial reason.
So while it is plausible in humans, you've misapplied it to justify something that you may or may not want to do. This has very little to do with polyamory.
oopsmj
Mar 1, 2011, 09:58 AM
I like you saying
If you're falling out of attraction/love with your girlfriend then look at the reason why and don't try to blame in on some obscure medial reason.
jenniepepsi
Mar 1, 2011, 01:48 PM
I know MORE men perfectly happy with one woman, vs how many are NOT satiable with one partner. I think its just another excuse for men to use when they want to cheat.
smoothy
Mar 2, 2011, 06:16 AM
Keep in mind being happy with one woman doesn't mean they still wouldn't LIKE to be banging everything that looks good to them.
Then there are the ones that are so wrapped up in themselves they are going to get whatever they can getm whenever they can get it.
So there really is a big difference between those who would LIKE to bang a few dozen women... and those that would actually try to do it.
Its emotionally, physically, and financially draining for a guy to actually keep up with several women however.
Reality is rarely ever in sync with fantasy.
This is one time you really need to look into how "satisfied" is being defined and intended in this situation. Ones perspective can vary on what they consider satisfied when you ask multiple people.
But interpreted fairly broadly to mean "happy with the right woman" you will find far more people will agree they can be.
With the wrong person it can and will get repetitive and boring in only months... with the right person decades can pass without that happening.
There is however far more involved in a relationship than just sex... and the more people involved... the less of it you have. And that's true intimacy. You can't possibly have the same level of intimacy with say 5 women as you can have with just one.
From Wikipedia:
"... an old joke about Calvin Coolidge when he was President... The President and Mrs. Coolidge were being shown [separately] around an experimental government farm. When [Mrs. Coolidge] came to the chicken yard she noticed that a rooster was mating very frequently. She asked the attendant how often that happened and was told, “Dozens of times each day.” Mrs. Coolidge said, “Tell that to the President when he comes by.” Upon being told, President asked, “Same hen every time?” The reply was, “Oh, no, Mr. President, a different hen every time.” President: “Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge.”
Experiments on rats verified that a male rat would immediately begin mating with all of the female rats repeatedly until eventually exhausted. Although the females would continue nudging and licking him to continue, he would not respond. However, if a novel female were introduced to the box, he would become alert and find the ability to mate once again with the new female.
While the Coolidge effect is usually seen demonstrated by males—that is, males displaying renewed excitement with a novel female—Lester and Gorzalka developed a model to determine whether the Coolidge effect also occurs in females. Their experiment, which used hamsters instead of rats, found that it does occur in lesser degrees in females
I see this as just one of those biological throw backs that would originally have been important for survival of the race. Spread the genes far and wide to optimise the chances of successful matings. Since the poplulation of this planet is now far from sparse this is a somewhat redundant biological urge which doesn't really serve our race well any more.
We have lots of other similar, now partially redundant, biological urges such as the flight or fight response to stress which is now only useful in a few situations and can make us very uncomfortable and even ill in many situations where neither flight nor fight would in fact be helpful.
As humans living in a modern age we can 'tolerate' our partners looking since we instinctively understand this is an innate urge. However, any partner using the coolridge effect as an excuse to cheat would surely receive very short change on that one.
We can also use this to our advantage. Having a partner needing a longer refraction period can introduce a period of emotional intimacy, between bouts as it were, where a snuggle, an intimate chat etc can be part of the ritual to increase the bond between the partners. In addition to which many couples will find that introducing a new mood, a new style, can take the place of introducing a new partner in shortening the recovery time - more variety, more fun, all good...
I presume nobody has actually tried to replicate this experiment in human beings. My guess would be that with people a whole host of complicated thoughts and feelings, which presumably don't apply to animals, may well bring somewhat different results anyway.
As for getting bored with our partners, that's a whole different ball game.
martinizing2
Mar 3, 2011, 04:43 AM
Coolidge effect, guys can't be satisfied with one woman, keep looking for sex pertner.
If its true, how long usually does it take for guys to get bored of their girl friends?
For some , it never gets boring. They are entirely satisfied with the same woman .
I think all men will look at the menu , even though they are on a "diet".
I think it is a matter of self control, along with the attitude of" sex is with your partner. "
For others ,they are never satisfied.
Right after they have sex they will lose what little interest they had. Sex is the goal. When you score you move on.
Coolidge effect should be almost the same as , striking when angered and running when scared.
Controlled by reason and intellect.
That is what set us apart from all other animals on the planet isn't it?
jenniepepsi
Mar 3, 2011, 07:35 AM
QLP, what about the 'animal' type animals (humans are animals too :P ) that are loyal to one mate until death. Wolves for instance, if the females mate dies, she will remain alone for the rest of her days no longer to mate, AND will visit the place of his death (whether his bones are still there or not) and howl in mourning.
Many primates are mated for life, and will grieve the loss of a lover.
I don't think humans have the monopoly on monagomy.
I didn't know that about wolves etc Jennie. Thank you. I presume the experimenters didn't actually try out the coolridge effect on all animals. I did wonder if there were some animals that would differ.
jenniepepsi
Mar 3, 2011, 08:39 PM
That's a good question. There are many out there. Dolphins I think as well mate for life. And even the animals like lions, who have multiple partners in his pride, will still remain loyal to his main lioness and grieve her death. At least that's how I understand it
ZeusVapor
Dec 9, 2011, 05:05 PM
It takes roughly 3.5 to 4 years for males to lose interest according to Anthropologist Helen Fisher
martinizing2
Dec 9, 2011, 05:27 PM
It takes roughly 3.5 to 4 years for males to lose interest according to Anthropologist Helen Fisher
I've seen Helen Fisher , and I think that 20 minutes before any sex all the interest would be gone.